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Who's your quarterback - 2015 v2.0

Right now, we don't know what we have in Mallet or Savage. Or they any good or not? We have barely seen them so we don't really know what they are capable of.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I like all of them more than what we currently have as sad as it may seem.
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If you mean Case and Thadd, I would mostly lump them together. Hoyer and RGIII would be the cream of that crop, such as it is.

Mallett and Savage have impressed me and I see them as the future of the Texans. :breakdance:
 
gwallaia said:
Right now, we don't know what we have in Mallet or Savage. Or they any good or not? We have barely seen them so we don't really know what they are capable of.
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We don't want to wait too long to find out. Hopefully one or both are healthy going into 2015 and one emerges. If there is some immediate help in free agency or a trade opportunity that makes sense this off-season we should explore all options. Even in the 2015 draft. If there is a quarterback worth taking in the first or second round we shouldn't hesitate.
 
gwallaia said:
Right now, we don't know what we have in Mallet or Savage. Or they any good or not? We have barely seen them so we don't really know what they are capable of.
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No other teams have either, though. That should make Mallett much cheaper and Savage is under contract.

It should be very doable to sign Mallett to a reasonable, short term contract. I was very much against bringing him in, but after what he cost and what he showed, I'm a believer now.
 
Mallet, we'll probably draft a guy in the first 3 rounds too. Might as well keep drafting them until you find that guy.

But Mallet should be the #1 guy starting the year.
 
fiasco west said:
Mallet, we'll probably draft a guy in the first 3 rounds too. Might as well keep drafting them until you find that guy.

But Mallet should be the #1 guy starting the year.
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If it was me (IF), i would go w/ Mallet as starter, draft a Big Fast WR in the first, go LB then TE, safety, etc..
 
fiasco west said:
Mallet, we'll probably draft a guy in the first 3 rounds too. Might as well keep drafting them until you find that guy.

But Mallet should be the #1 guy starting the year.
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What does the round have to do with anything? Y'all throw that crap around like the draft position determines something. Teams draft players according to where they have them ranked in terms of talent and need at different positions. Drafts are the ultimate gamble.
 
DocBar said:
What does the round have to do with anything? Y'all throw that crap around like the draft position determines something. Teams draft players according to where they have them ranked in terms of talent and need at different positions. Drafts are the ultimate gamble.
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And a player has a better chance at being good than if he were drafted in the 1st than the 7th.

All I said is that I'm sure we'll target a QB in early rounds, we'd be dumb not to. Teams also draft players depending on what other teams need too and who they think other teams will draft.
 
gwallaia said:
Right now, we don't know what we have in Mallet or Savage. Or they any good or not? We have barely seen them so we don't really know what they are capable of.
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Agreed. Rick Smith needs to get off his ass & get us Tom Brady next year & Russell Wilson to back him up.
 
Too bad we won't get a chance to evaluate either Mallett or Savage adequately before draft time. Mallett is more likely to be the franchise QB but we can't count on it. We must draft a QB in the 1st round, and as high up as we can get by reasonable trading.
 
I'll say this: Bill O'Brien can not go into his third year here not knowing who the long-term QB is.

The QB issue has GOT to be solved next year.
 
Seegara said:
Too bad we won't get a chance to evaluate either Mallett or Savage adequately before draft time. Mallett is more likely to be the franchise QB but we can't count on it. We must draft a QB in the 1st round, and as high up as we can get by reasonable trading.
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Don't think it's gonna happen unless OB is no longer here or Mallett refuses to sign
 
Jay Cutler anybody? If we're going to mention the likes of RGIII then he may as well generate some mention if nothing else. His contract is too big but there could always be a lot of restructuring before hand. Assuming he's traded. I wonder if the Bears would simply cut him? Then he'd be easier to sign.
 
I think if Keenum wins these next two in A good fashion I would say he will deff be on the roster next year

it might go like dis going into TC

Mallet...to be the penciled in starter

Keenum
Savage

Rookie Draft QB


or they might just go the F/A vet qb but IDK who will be on the market next year
 
I want Mallett to be the Week 1 starter for 2015. If he doesn't show that he can be the franchise quarterback, (or Savage for that matter) I want the Texans to draft Connor Cook or Christian Hackenberg in 2016.
 
Mari-OWNED! said:
I want Mallett to be the Week 1 starter for 2015. If he doesn't show that he can be the franchise quarterback, (or Savage for that matter) I want the Texans to draft Connor Cook or Christian Hackenberg in 2016.
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Mallett won't be ready to get the reps in training camp so I think we at least begin with Keenum or Savage at the helm. There is no reason to push Mallett back into contact work before he is FULLY recovered and that could easily be half way through next season with even a minor setback during rehab.
 
Marshall said:
Mallett won't be ready to get the reps in training camp so I think we at least begin with Keenum or Savage at the helm. There is no reason to push Mallett back into contact work before he is FULLY recovered and that could easily be half way through next season with even a minor setback during rehab.
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If Mallett can't play, then roll with Savage for 2015 and Fishsticks can back him up and play the mentor role.
 
Mari-OWNED! said:
If Mallett can't play, then roll with Savage for 2015 and Fishsticks can back him up and play the mentor role.
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I could easily see a situation where Mallett becomes our IR player with recall rights after week 8 while rolling with Fitz, (Keenum or Lewis) and Savage.

But I'm afraid he will rush the rehab on the advice of his agent to maximize his value in free agency and end up harming his career.
 
fiasco west said:
And a player has a better chance at being good than if he were drafted in the 1st than the 7th.

All I said is that I'm sure we'll target a QB in early rounds, we'd be dumb not to. Teams also draft players depending on what other teams need too and who they think other teams will draft.
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Unless Rick Smith drafts him in 3rd, 4th, or 5th then there is a good chance the player is going to suck.
 
Marshall said:
I could easily see a situation where Mallett becomes our IR player with recall rights after week 8 while rolling with Fitz, (Keenum or Lewis) and Savage.

But I'm afraid he will rush the rehab on the advice of his agent to maximize his value in free agency and end up harming his career.
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So the Texans QB progression (and I use the term lightly):

Lisfranc Schaub, Keenum, Yates --> Fitz, Mallett, Savage --> Torn Pec Mallett, Fitz, Savage, (maybe Keenum or Lewis)

In this scenario, there is a lot riding on the promise Mallett showed in one game of action.

At least the Texans know what a hamster feels like when it is running in a wheel.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Jay Cutler anybody? If we're going to mention the likes of RGIII then he may as well generate some mention if nothing else. His contract is too big but there could always be a lot of restructuring before hand. Assuming he's traded. I wonder if the Bears would simply cut him? Then he'd be easier to sign.
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Would love to see more comment on this possibility. Cutler just got benched for Jimmy Clausen.

His attitude sucks when he's on a bad team, but if we can pick him up for either a mid-late round pick or as a free agent I think he can be an upgrade on what we've got. We can offer him a quality Oline, quality running game, and, assuming AJ actually works this offseason, and the TE position gets sorted too, possibly the best receiving corps he's seen.

Dead money comes off the books this offseason and there are some cuttable high earners giving the Texans wiggle room to get a deal done.

It frees up the top of the draft to focus on other positions of need and we can continue to draft mid round QBs until we find the rough diamond to become the franchise QB for the long term.

Yet, for all of these points, I have to ask, is Cutler the QB I think he is? Has he really fallen back into the lack of so-so starters or is he still capable of being a difference maker? I'm fairly confident the likes of JJ and AJ wouldn't allow him to let his attitude get in the way for the Texans but where is his talent level at right now?
 
welsh texan said:
Yet, for all of these points, I have to ask, is Cutler the QB I think he is? Has he really fallen back into the lack of so-so starters or is he still capable of being a difference maker? I'm fairly confident the likes of JJ and AJ wouldn't allow him to let his attitude get in the way for the Texans but where is his talent level at right now?
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I don't know how Cutler's skill set would translate to the Texans. He has always seemed a very streaky quarterback to me. I don't watch every NFL game every season though, so my basis for that opinion is limited.

Cutler has been in the league long enough, been rated high enough, and has an ego big enough that I doubt JJ and AJ would affect his attitude much. He is what he is.
 
Marcus said:
You don't have to be up that early in the draft to take a decent QB. And even if we did, I wouldn't touch Jamies Winston or Marcus Mariota with ten foot poles.

I think it will be a head to head comp between Mallet and Savage.
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Eh, I'm with you on Winston, not so much on Mariota.

MistaRed said:
I don't think you move up for a QB unless it's Mariota.
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Yep.

TheDrifter said:
And I don't think we'll have nearly enough firepower to move up that far.
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Agreed. Even if Rick Smith had the picks to do it, not sure he could.

IlliniJen said:
I'm right here too unless he proves to be cost prohibitive.
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Porky said:
Right now, that is what I would favor as well. Let's Fitzy go and let's go with the young guns. This is assuming you can resign Mallett at a reasonable rate.
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Just don't see a super-high market for Mallett as of now.

Rotoworld puts it best.
Mallett's reward for playing hurt in Sunday's loss was 60 minutes of bad film heading into the open market.

Heading into his age-27 season as a statue-esque pocket passer with only 79 career throws, Mallett is going to be a strange case in free agency.
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1. FA QB
2. Fitz
3. Savage

Brian Hoyer may be more likely than Mallet at this point, due to Mallet's 9-12 months of recovery time.
 
Marshall said:
I could easily see a situation where Mallett becomes our IR player with recall rights after week 8 while rolling with Fitz, (Keenum or Lewis) and Savage.

But I'm afraid he will rush the rehab on the advice of his agent to maximize his value in free agency and end up harming his career.
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Where are you getting this time period from?

From a pundit:

And while Mallett is in the final year of his contract, his future could still be with the Texans. NFL Network reported the Texans have told Mallett they want him back in 2015. ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Mallett wants to be back and should be healthy by April.
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Link

To a doc:

Advanced Strengthening Phase (12-16+ weeks)

The final phase of the post-operative program following pectoralis tendon repair is the Return to Activity Phase and occurs after 12-16+ weeks. The goals for this period include full AROM/PROM of the shoulder and a gradual return of full strength for resumption of all prior activities of vocation or daily living.
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Link
 
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Wolf6151 said:
Dear God, please let Connor Cook declare eligibility for the 2015 draft.
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I thought I read/heard somewhere he's already said he's going back to school. He's not listed on WalterFootball's mock draft and I didn't see him listed with the other QB's on NFLDRAFTSCOUT.com. It's too bad because I thought he'd be an ideal type for BO'B to develop. But, this will give them time next season to see if Mallett or Savage are "the guy." The only problem with that is, you waste another season if neither is "the guy."
 
welsh texan said:
Would love to see more comment on this possibility. Cutler just got benched for Jimmy Clausen.

His attitude sucks when he's on a bad team, but if we can pick him up for either a mid-late round pick or as a free agent I think he can be an upgrade on what we've got. We can offer him a quality Oline, quality running game, and, assuming AJ actually works this offseason, and the TE position gets sorted too, possibly the best receiving corps he's seen.

Dead money comes off the books this offseason and there are some cuttable high earners giving the Texans wiggle room to get a deal done.

It frees up the top of the draft to focus on other positions of need and we can continue to draft mid round QBs until we find the rough diamond to become the franchise QB for the long term.

Yet, for all of these points, I have to ask, is Cutler the QB I think he is? Has he really fallen back into the lack of so-so starters or is he still capable of being a difference maker? I'm fairly confident the likes of JJ and AJ wouldn't allow him to let his attitude get in the way for the Texans but where is his talent level at right now?
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The problem is, Cutler is on a good team right now! He has a good RB (Forte), good WR (Brandon Marshall & Alshon Jeffery), and a good TE (Martellus Bennett). The problem is Cutler! I think he's poison to a team. Don't know if it's his attitude or arrogance or what, but it just seems like he's a poison to team chemistry. JMO!
 
Schaub should be cheap. :kitten:

I think Fitz and Mallett battle for the starting job in TC with Savage and Keenum/Lewis battling for third (depending on how the last two games go). Problem is, can either Fitz or Mallett return to pre injury form? Sad that there is a 75% that we go into 2015 with more damaged goods at QB.
 
We need to reverse this injury trend. Instead of getting QBs that appear healthy, we go recruit some that are in major surgery for something.
 
amazing80 said:
He must be getting confused with Clowneys return...
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I'm assuming he tries to rush his rehab to get the big contract and that sets him back to a mid season return. I suppose I've become a medical skeptic when it comes to the Texans.
 
A hint from the Boss.........
Dale Robertson @sportywineguy · 17h 17 hours ago

BOB: Says @Ryan_mallett_15 being around is a big help because he knows this offense better than anyone, Fitzy included.
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