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Anyone else starting to feel optimistic?
- Thread starter keyser
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The sky was falling then. I'm not going to fault people for calling it as they see it, especially when they are proven correct in their assessment in the end.
I'm optimistic about the team this year for various reasons. However, I can also understand the view of those reining in their expectations. I just don't think the dashing of expectations is as inevitable this season as in years past.
houstonspartan
All Pro
One thing I like: I no longer get nervous when we are in the Red Zone. Kubiak's Red Zone offense and playcalling was atrocious, and I used to always wait for the field goal unit to come out.
This year, so far, I feel that O'Brien has the attitude that he's going to do anything necessary to get the ball in.
This year, so far, I feel that O'Brien has the attitude that he's going to do anything necessary to get the ball in.
BullNation4Life
All Pro
until they get that 3rd win and put last year behind them, I am waiting...
NYTexansFan
Waterboy
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
This. Hopefully that happens this Sunday.
...a 76 yard TD strike to DeAndre Hopkins?
That was one play in two games where the safety bit hard (on a really good fake to give due credit) and blew his coverage assignment...
...you're putting your money on that happening repeatedly?
Really?
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
How about that li'l backshoulder TD against the Raiders?
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Actually I'm becoming more pessimistic the more I watch our 1st two games. Primarily the Raiders game. Our defense hasn't really been all that good. I mentioned it in another thread, but NT appears to be the weakest point at the moment with the LB corps being the 2nd. I didn't count, but it seemed every play we were gashed by McFadden it was up the middle when Jamison was at the nose. He's playing out of position and getting crushed.
It's also aggravating watching Watt get doubled and chipped and no one else taking advantage of it. Same as last season
Cushing was much better but has a ways to go before he's back. The rest of the LBs....pffft!
It's also aggravating watching Watt get doubled and chipped and no one else taking advantage of it. Same as last season
Cushing was much better but has a ways to go before he's back. The rest of the LBs....pffft!
Okay that's two. And there's the J.J.Watt TE fill-in scoring play (that O.D. used to make a living doing - that's why I wasn't impressed).
Funny out of the 4 scenarios I laid out you only addressed that one.
What happens if by hook or crook we're down 17 - zip or 21 - 3 in the 2nd half.
What have you seen that says we can come back and win. I'm not saying we won't/can't; I just haven't seen us do it yet.
And to be clear, I don't care how it gets done. If we pull off a scoop & score or a pick six or another rabbit out of FitzMagic's hat or some combination of them all. As long as they show the gumption to not quit and keep battling and try and come back.
Didja see Oakland on Sunday? After we got up three scores, some of them looked like they quit. I want to see us do the opposite; bear down and try and come back.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Let's put a fine point on it. Ravens v. Texans. Do you see this team scoring on 5 consecutive drives with two being 99 yd and 95 yd back to back TDs...and let's throw in a 2 pt. conversion?
I don't. As much as folks like to slight what we were, we have to get back there and we ain't there yet.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Actually, not that funny at all because I was responding to your response and not to your original post at all.
I don't disagree with any of that. And that's why I never responded to your original post.
So far, we've faced two teams. On offense, we've basically followed a very simple formula of run, run, run with an occasional pass. We don't know, yet, if we can really open up the offense and attack a team vertically (which is why I've been hoping Mallett will overtake Fitzy.)
On defense, though, we've followed two pretty different game plans tailored to the teams we were facing. We've given up a ton of yards but been stingy as hell with the points. We've forced a lot of turnovers and ST TDs. I'm not sure how we'll be able to continue to do that.
That's why I cautiously optimistic.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
I can't hold it against the offense that they haven't been put in a must score situation and haven't done it. I think the pessimism is probably right that Fitzpatrick is more than likely not leading any huge scoring days for us, but if we arent in those situations how can you hold it against them. Those throws that got them into the end one still happened. Whether it was Nuk or Watt or Fitz making things happen they still happened and the 6 points still went onto the scoreboard. If O'Brien can keep us out of no win situations like that I think its more of a testament to his coaching than it is Fitz being good bad or whatever. I do agree that our running defense looks mediocre at best, especially up the middle, but these things are going to change as the season plays out, for better or worse.
It's really a nice breath of fresh air watching players who look like they give a ****, unlike last year.
It's really a nice breath of fresh air watching players who look like they give a ****, unlike last year.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
I agree we had one of the best offenses in the league for a while, to bad we couldn't take advantage of it and win a SB.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
As much of a hand Kubiak had in putting together really good offenses, he had just as much of a hand in picking 2 DC's who couldn't coach their way put of a wet paper bag. Wasted opportunities.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
if only wade had been here a few seasons earlier.
my bad. I should have made it clear that I wasn't directing that particular comment at you. More toward folks that answered the prior post of mine.
A thousand apologies.
Understood. I'm still hopefully pessimistic.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Winning games cures all. Im cautious not to get too high, so the fall from grace wont be so demoralizing ... if it occurs.
Soft schedule + weak opponents + reinvigorated defense = positive output.
I want to see this team handle some adversity before becoming overly optimistic so soon.
I still welcome the change in culture .. I'm pleasantly surprised by BOB after doubting him most of the time leading up to the season.
Soft schedule + weak opponents + reinvigorated defense = positive output.
I want to see this team handle some adversity before becoming overly optimistic so soon.
I still welcome the change in culture .. I'm pleasantly surprised by BOB after doubting him most of the time leading up to the season.
I was wondering when his name would pop back up.
We scored on five of five possessions in the second half of our last game. Or defense only allowed two of nine third down opportunities. That says comeback, no matter who you're playing.
And right now, we're not playing as well as we will be in three weeks, or eight weeks, or twelve.
Nope the Texans have to be much better than they were under Kubiak.
They're getting there but I'm sure BOB would agree, they have a LONG way to go.
You want optimism here goes. The Texans beat NYG this weekend to go 3-0. Then beat the Bills at home to go 4-0. They sweep the Tacks/Jags that gets them 8 wins. Looking at the rest of the schedule I can see 2 more wins. that gets them to 10 wins which wins the AFC South.
I want to see the Texans keep winning. If they win ugly, great. If they win on lucky break, great. If they win on turnovers like the first 2 games, great.
The Texans in the past have fought hard in too many games just to see them get the big L at the final score. Happened WAY too many times in years like 2009, 2010 and last year, they play very well, but then find a way before the final score to lose. At this point, I want to see the Texans triumph over their opponents in every game!
End the game with the W, whatever it takes!
The Texans in the past have fought hard in too many games just to see them get the big L at the final score. Happened WAY too many times in years like 2009, 2010 and last year, they play very well, but then find a way before the final score to lose. At this point, I want to see the Texans triumph over their opponents in every game!
End the game with the W, whatever it takes!
This is where I want the team to consistently be. You know, kinda like the Patriots.
Wade would've been great to have pre lis-franc Schaub injury and Lil' Shanny was here. Those were some good offensive teams. Wade is always good for a couple of seasons, then OC's figure out how he's using his players. He seems really good at being inventive at first, but fails to continue that. He just keeps going to the same old well time after time, well after it's dried up. His defense was just as much a part of '13's problems as the offense.
The Texans need to get back to where they were in Kubiak's greatest games, then learn to be consistently at that level.
So the Texans are going to sweep 2 teams that swept them last season? I wouldn't bet the farm. How many wins did you count up last season? I had quite a few checked off. I learned my lesson. My mantra this year is go 1-0 every week. Week 2 is in the past, week 4 isn't even on my radar.
Andre Johnson seems to be feeling optimistic....
Someone else learned how to keep the
lit!!! It would be awesome!!! We'll find out in a few weeks if we need to mark it down. Lucas Oil Stadium is like the Texans' very own Death Valley and Black Hole combined with 10cc of JJ for the home team added for good measure.
It's blackenedI don't know what that smell is, but I like what you're cooking.
. It a popular dish in the New Orleans area. Houston seems to have taken to it recently. 
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
No particular merit to it but I bet we beat Indy at their home. We never beat them period until Kubiak. I think OB will get a similar moment. Sweep would be great.
DX-TEX
#TomSavageDontCare
Sending you your offical koolaid members club jacket DX, should be there in 2-4 weeks
Im bathing in that stuff.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
Glad you also like my Texans koolaid bubble bath, it's tear free !
I'm cautiously optimistic ..... But I think they have played about as well as possible offensively with Fitzpatrick under center & the teams they have played haven't been very good
Looking at the schedule , they could win ~10 games as they play a bunch of weak teams but to do that they have to continue to protect the football and pound the ball on the ground as well as the defense playing as good or better than it has thus far.
I don't expect them to do much against the better (offensively explosive) teams on the schedule mainly because I don't think Fitzpatrick can keep pace. The Bungles , Dolts & Iggles are the teams I look at and think are significantly better offensively (on the schedule).
Looking at the schedule , they could win ~10 games as they play a bunch of weak teams but to do that they have to continue to protect the football and pound the ball on the ground as well as the defense playing as good or better than it has thus far.
I don't expect them to do much against the better (offensively explosive) teams on the schedule mainly because I don't think Fitzpatrick can keep pace. The Bungles , Dolts & Iggles are the teams I look at and think are significantly better offensively (on the schedule).
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Y'all that want to prima donna or otherwise complain about Arian, wanna cut him, better strap down tight and pray for his health. As he goes the Texans go this season.
Wasn't he listed on the injury report with a hamstring? I'm thinking OB is trying to lull NYGIANTS into a false sense of hope.... only to yank the ball out at the last minute.
Vinnie
with an I E
I'm afraid you're right, Cak. It would be nice to see Grimes or Blue giving him a break (productively) soon. Is Brown still on the squad?
I'll call AF a prima donna, while being a prima donna myself, and not bat an eyelash. Being a prima donna doesn't mean you're bad at your job.
Vinnie
with an I E
To qualify my last statement, I don't name call or otherwise wish ill on Arian, I actually enjoy his antics. I want him healthy for sure, and Grimes and/or Blue need to start making some hay very soon if we're going to have a healthy Arian later this season.
P.S. and dare I say post season
P.S. and dare I say post season
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
They need confidence and attitude to win those games. Let's see if they can gain that this season; the schedule helps in that regard. If they play good enough to win, then they need to win. No more heart breakers. No more if only...
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I don't know if I've ever seen a team as thoroughly dominated as the Buccs have been tonight.
This is insane.
I thought with the new championship format it didn't pay to schedule Division 2 teams any more.
Wait - that's not a college score?
I've already called that in another thread and that was before Mathis hurt himself or Jones went out. The Colts weren't that good to begin with and Andrew's Luck has played out.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Great minds yada...
TD
Super Bowl Mascot
You must not of watched the Oilers.
***still want to to knock that smirk off Sam Wyche's face***
Dread-Head
Hall of Fame
"I wants revenge!"
:James Brown The Big Payback
I want everyone's @$$ kicked this season. The Texans need to embed their feet in some people's butts to attain some R-E-S-P-E-C-T. In fact vugg respect. I want to see them win a title to shut EVERYONE the vugg up.
:James Brown The Big Payback
I want everyone's @$$ kicked this season. The Texans need to embed their feet in some people's butts to attain some R-E-S-P-E-C-T. In fact vugg respect. I want to see them win a title to shut EVERYONE the vugg up.
December 14 at Indy is our Super Bowl!!
yeah, no doubt. I do not hear the sanctimonious ramblings about Arian these days from the self-righteous. Seems like the pragmatic football fan side of folks has realized his importance to the team this season.
H
humblegeo
Guest
I can't get too optimistic yet, knowing that we only passed for 139 yards last game. How the heck did we manage to score 30+ points with only 139 passing yards?? That's got to be a NFL record! So far so good though and really enjoying the wins. Let's go get another one and improve on our passing game during the course of the season.