htownfan32
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Too bad he wasn't the guy. His cult was so convinced otherwise.
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Case Keenum - Fan Pulse Check [UPDATE] Rams claim Case on waivers
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houstonspartan
All Pro
It's time to put the "hometown guy" narrative to rest. People in this city - and this state - are obsessed with local boys doing well on local teams. Kubiak. Wade. Vince Young. Keenum.
Sure, when it happens, it's a great story. But it doesn't always work out that way.
Drew Brees and Andy Dalton are just two QB's from Texas that have left home and have appeared to have decent careers. Not to mention the hundreds of other NFL players from Texas that are having good careers in other states.
Case Keenum will probably end up as a back-up on a team somewhere, and could possibly have a very decent career and live a happy life - outside of Texas. He'll be fine.
Just saying.
yes.
The end?
time to call in the coroner.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Self control may not be easy, but...
I thought he looked pretty good. Got the team in & out of the huddle efficiently, got them lined up right, ball snapped on time. Didn't make any stupid mistakes with the ball, didn't let his frustration get the better of him. Things weren't going his way & he didn't lose it.
I'd have liked to see him in that hopeless situation a bit more. But whatever.
It's still the preseason guys. What we're seeing isn't real? We should temper their effects on our opinions. If you didn't know any better, Shilo Keogh should be starting on half the teams in the league.
I'd have liked to see him in that hopeless situation a bit more. But whatever.
It's still the preseason guys. What we're seeing isn't real? We should temper their effects on our opinions. If you didn't know any better, Shilo Keogh should be starting on half the teams in the league.
Didn't make any mistakes? Like throwing in tight double coverage? Or missing wide open receivers? He made several mistakes (like last week) - and most importantly he couldn't move the ball at all. He wasn't on the same page with the receiver on his INT - but if the receiver had the choice of two routes here, he definetly made the right read and Keenum the wrong one.
Keenum had a couple of good plays in there - and his protection wasn't very good. But he hasn't show BoB anything to get that #2 spot. His only good news could be, that Savage didn't either (outside of that one drive). If he gets cut, he should look at noone but himself to blame.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
I doubt Keenum gets cut. Who are they going to replace him with? Another low graded QB that has never even seen the playbook? At this time of the football season, if you haven't got your QB for the year, you ain't getting one. And we ain't got one. From what I've seen, none of the three QBs are doing that great.
I want Keenum to succeed, I really do, but right now all our QBs suck.
I want Keenum to succeed, I really do, but right now all our QBs suck.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Right now OB is looking more like a QB knacker than whisperer.
speedfreek
All Pro
Keenum looked bad last night because the QB and WR's didn't seem
to be on the same page (that receiver wasn't even looking for the ball
on that INT)
Also, that line stunk. God help us when the regular season starts
and the defenses we are facing actually run stunts and blitzes and
try to confuse fitz.
It could get ugly really quickly.
I would not be surprised if all 3 QB's play sometime this season because
of injuries at the QB position
to be on the same page (that receiver wasn't even looking for the ball
on that INT)
Also, that line stunk. God help us when the regular season starts
and the defenses we are facing actually run stunts and blitzes and
try to confuse fitz.
It could get ugly really quickly.
I would not be surprised if all 3 QB's play sometime this season because
of injuries at the QB position
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eriadoc
Texan-American
Because he's bad. That's why he looked bad. Elegant in its simplicity.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
pretty much....he still has that deer in the headlights look that he had at times last year..He's holding the ball too long all the while staring down his WR's. What i've been seeing in the preseason with him this year is him throwing against his body & migrating in the pocket too. Guys with big arms can get away with that...guys with noodle arms....
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humblegeo
Guest
Starts at some time during the season due to Pickpatrick's inadequacy. We better have a darn good defense.
yep, pretty much my gut feeling since they signed Fitz and named him starter.
We have three backup QBs on the roster, and two of them are not even adequate backups (but I'll give Savage a pass since he's a rookie).
I think the team strategy this season is simple: build a great defense, have a consistent running game, special teams needs to come through on every punt and FG, and coach the QB position not to make mistakes.
That is the only way this team achieves .500, IMO. It certainly will not be wins from shootouts by any of the QBs on the roster.
I don't know what OB told him so I don't know what OB thinks of him right now. I wouldn't be surprised if OB saw exactly what he wanted & decides to start Keenum week 1. I also wouldn't be surprised if he cuts Keenum this morning.
Then again he's been saying Fitzpatrick is his starter & I'll truly be shocked if that is the case.
There's been nothing this preseason to separate any of these guys as the starter, one way or the other he's going to have to find a way to win regardless.
I don't think Fitzpatrick is better than Keenum.
I don't think Keenum is better than Fitzpatrick
I don't think either gives us a better chance to win than the other.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Just a point, but according to OBs presser, that interception Case threw sounds like a mistake by the receiver running the wrong route.
eriadoc
Texan-American
Keenum's not as bad as the shrill anti-Keenum camp. And any assertion that he has a noodle arm kills any credibility you might have had on the topic. He doesn't have a cannon, but he's not Chad Pennington out there (or Schaub these days).
I don't think Keenum's good. He's done nothing to take the bull by the horns at all. I've said all along I want him to win the job. I never wanted him to be given the job. I wanted a competition. Well, despite the fact that no one has really competed against him, he lost. So that's on him.
The saddest part of all this is I don't believe Fitzpatrick is better than Keenum, which is awful. And Savage is not as good as either of them, though he might have some upside to develop. It's going to be a long season.
I don't think Keenum's good. He's done nothing to take the bull by the horns at all. I've said all along I want him to win the job. I never wanted him to be given the job. I wanted a competition. Well, despite the fact that no one has really competed against him, he lost. So that's on him.
The saddest part of all this is I don't believe Fitzpatrick is better than Keenum, which is awful. And Savage is not as good as either of them, though he might have some upside to develop. It's going to be a long season.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Keenum's arm isn't noticeably stronger than any of the 2 guys you named...Sure, the ball looks prettier coming out of Keenum's hand than the other 2, but it ain't coming much if any more harder than Schaub or Pennington's. All of them are all along the "average" line.
I don't think either gives us a better chance to win than the other
I have said the same thing. I think Fitz has LOOKED a little better simply because he has played with the starters. It seemed to me that on a few passes Case made the receiver was totally lost or didn't even think to look for the ball. I don't think all that is on Case. The media seems to think there is a great difference between Grandpa Football and Case. I don't believe that to be the case. But it really doesn't make much difference because both are not good. I do think Case may throw a little better long ball which could open up the field a little bit.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Schaub and Pennington aren't in the same ballpark with each other, at least pre-injury to Schaub.
drs23
Veteran
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Most of us in the "Keenum Cult" are not blind to his inadequacies, I certainly am not. And I most certainly haven't given up hope that he'll somehow "get it", and become Da Guy. Do not mistake hope for blind fandom.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Vinnie
with an I E
I've never considered myself a part of any "cult", just a fan. I don't see him staying on the squad at this point, although PS is possible (I believe) with the new rules.
I can't see how anyone can chose Fitzpatrick over Case. & I don't consider myself a Case fan. I argued with those who failed to see his limitations last season.
I wanted the Texans to bring someone in for Case to compete with, someone he could beat... I thought Fitzpatrick was setting the bar too low.
But OB never hinted at a competition, or that Keenum was threatening Fitzpatrick or even improving in the slightest. Instead he is barely ahead of the rookie who has very little playing time over the last three years.
Vinnie
with an I E
The deck was stacked against Keenum when a QB was drafted in the 4th round. Case had to show he was significantly better than that guy, and he hasn't. Is he better? Probably. Is he significantly better? No. He will be cut because of it. It may not be fair, but this is the NFL. There is no such thing as fair in the NFL, whether that be officiating, drug policy, ticket prices, ticket policy, women's hand bags, etc. etc.
Vinnie
with an I E
Oh, and beer is now $8 for a 16oz can at Reliant err NRG.
Not sure if this has been posted anywhere here since I just logged on and is trying to play catch up.
Texans will keep the same 3 QBs.
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexan...n-texans-53-man-roster/#26285103=0&26296101=0
Texans will keep the same 3 QBs.
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexan...n-texans-53-man-roster/#26285103=0&26296101=0
Vinnie
with an I E
I stand corrected.
TPN, do you have a link?
I can't seem to find one.
I wasn't sure whether Case or Posey made the wrong read.
It's almost impossible to tell though, because none of us know exactly how OB wants his QB and receiver to adjust the pattern according to the defense.
HCs and/or OCs can be different in their approach within their own system.
I do not think OB's system is a copy cat of Belichik's.
At the NFL level, I think that most of them would want to put their own stamp on "tthe system" as the NFL evolves.
Like Alex Gibbs once said, every year, he and his coaching staff converge to see what they can tweak "in hope" of getting the upper hand.
This has nothing to do with Savage. I said I don't see how anyone can choose Fitzpatrick over anyone. As much as you hate Case, that's how much I hate Fitzpatrick & that sucker's been in the league for 9 years.
Not a big deal.
We are fans, and each of us have his own passion.
We see things differently all the time.
Personally, I like it.
It's a good thing to see different points of view.
It forces me to dig deeper and try to go back to see what I missed.
It's a continuous learning process that makes the game intrigued as it is.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Looking back, I might have read more into the presser than was there.
OB said this (and some other things):
Then Devier said this:
I thought I had seen something else that pointed to Case making the right decision but I don't see it now. So I could have just been reading something in when it wasn't there.
amazing80
Hall of Fame
Based on that ^ there is no indication as to who messed up
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Didn't I say that?
Vinnie
with an I E
wut? How do I hate Case? I love Case! I was just saying they're rolling with a vet and a draft choice come hell or high water and Case is the odd man out, and apparently, I was wrong.
Because he knows things change.
stingray
Hall of Fame
Case Keenum will be on the 53 man roster. For the Texans to go with just Fitz and Savage as their QB would not be very smart. My wife who is Colombian, has a saying. "Entre todos no se hace ni un sancocho", translates to, "you can include all of them and you won't even get a soup out of them." It doesn't translate 100%, but it basically says that you can add all three in the ingredients, but you won't even get a good soup out of them. Thats basically the Texans qb situation.
amazing80
Hall of Fame
Had to pay for the new sign...
beerlover
Hall of Fame
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
read it & weep or can I get you something from the bar
Nice.
