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All Encompassing Andre Johnson Thread (Just got some disturbing news about A Johnson)

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2012Champs said:
You said the companies got bailed out and turned around and gave their board members big bonuses yet you post 07 exec comp(not board members) figures and the bailout was in 08. Not to mention bonuses are paid early in the year for the year prior.

The 5 billion in bonuses weren't for the board or executive and at the time Citigroup had in excess of 300k employees. I was one of them and many employees had a significant portion of their total comp comprised of bonus. Mine at the time was 50% of total comp and it's much lower now as a percentage while my overall comp is much higher(this is actually worse for the company btw)

Also of the 70k in layoffs do you know what the cost of their severance package was? You don't have a clue how many of those folks were paid a great deal of them far in excess of 70k each paid in a lump sum which made them eligible to draw unemployment immediately.

I know very well what happened a citi through those times because I was there and like I said your ignorance continues because you don't understand.


Let me be clear on something, I'm not saying exec comp in excess is justified(that's a debate for a different time) what I am saying is that it is not keeping you from your comfortable living wage. Just because you work hard doesn't mean you should have a comfortable living for you and your family. Your comfort level for instance might have been higher if you didn't have 3 kids, that's your choice though not your employer.
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My point was it is amazing how much money these people were given and then had to be bailed out the next year, also do you work in every single industry known to man ?

Here's another one for you, i suppose you worked here as your 3rd job as well

Bank of America only earned a total of 2.56 Billion Dollars in 2008 and paid out 3.3 Billion in bonuses to 172 of it's top employees. They were also given billions in 2008 as part of the bailout. All the while laying off 7,500 employees. How much was your bonus ?
 
EllisUnit said:
My point was it is amazing how much money these people were given and then had to be bailed out the next year, also do you work in every single industry known to man ?
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That wasn't what you had said originally so if you are changing your point, yes I agree it's amazing how much the execs were paid prior to the bailouts. Outside of working at a car wash for a few years this is the only industry I've worked in


EllisUnit said:
Here's another one for you, i suppose you worked here as your 3rd job as well

Bank of America only earned a total of 2.56 Billion Dollars in 2008 and paid out 3.3 Billion in bonuses to 172 of it's top employees. They were also given billions in 2008 as part of the bailout. All the while laying off 7,500 employees. How much was your bonus ?
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I've never worked for bac or Merrill so ther would be no reason for them to pay me anything. I'm not sure if 08 is when they closed the Merrill deal but if they didn't pay bonuses to many of those employees they would have left and taken clients/revenue with them to a competing firm who would have given them bonuses to leave bac/Merrill.
 
2012Champs said:
That wasn't what you had said originally so if you are changing your point, yes I agree it's amazing how much the execs were paid prior to the bailouts. Outside of working at a car wash for a few years this is the only industry I've worked in





I've never worked for bac or Merrill so ther would be no reason for them to pay me anything. I'm not sure if 08 is when they closed the Merrill deal but if they didn't pay bonuses to many of those employees they would have left and taken clients/revenue with them to a competing firm who would have given them bonuses to leave bac/Merrill.
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It was towards the end of 08. But you get my point with what i'm trying to say. Ok enough derailing the AJ thread.
 
EllisUnit said:
My point was it is amazing how much money these people were given and then had to be bailed out the next year
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and if you're the very best at what you do you can name your price
(see Peyton Manning)
 
Thorn said:
Do you normally use between 6 to 12 sheets on the first pass to wipe your ass after taking a $hit?

These threads are SO informative.
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While I agree with your assessment regarding this thread..

Your analogy or example is lacking..

I don't care about how many trees I kill during that time or a normal use of at least 6 sheets during initial wipe (and that's not a whole lot) as long as my finger doesn't poke through then I'm happy. :)

we're not proof reading Ann Frank's diary here.. Feel free to at least grab 6 sheets.
 
Carr Bombed said:
While I agree with your assessment regarding this thread..

Your analogy or example is lacking..

I don't care about how many trees I kill during that time or a normal use of at least 6 sheets during initial wipe (and that's not a whole lot) as long as my finger doesn't poke through then I'm happy. :)

we're not proof reading Ann Frank's diary here.. Feel free to at least grab 6 sheets.
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steelbtexan said:
It's time for all 12 sheeters to speak up.
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I think executives get three ply toilet paper while the workers get one ply . The workers get glorified sandpaper and then get in trouble for walking slow .:Tumblewee
 
EllisUnit said:
Difference is Manning will not ask tax payers to bail him out so he don't have to file bankruptcy next season.
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Who would be worse off if those companies weren't bailed out, the execs who probably have "golden parachutes" of some form or another or the regular folks who are making 40-80K/year doing admin/middle mgmt/grunt type work??

And haven't the financial institutions paid back all the bailout loans with interest? And don't "We the People" own sellable stock in the auto companies? We (taxpayers) may end up coming out ahead...

Edit: And I apologize to the group for contributing to the leakage (hemmorage?) of a NSZ topic into the football-only part of the forum.
 
ObsiWan said:
Who would be worse off if those companies weren't bailed out, the execs who probably have "golden parachutes" of some form or another or the regular folks who are making 40-80K/year doing admin/middle mgmt/grunt type work??

And haven't the financial institutions paid back all the bailout loans with interest? And don't "We the People" own sellable stock in the auto companies? We (taxpayers) may end up coming out ahead...

Edit: And I apologize to the group for contributing to the leakage (hemmorage?) of a NSZ topic into the football-only part of the forum.
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i agree the companies should of been bailed out because it saved 100 of thousands of jobs, on the other hand some regulations should have been imposed because of the money the govt gave them that would not allow billions in bonuses.
 
WOW this got moved to the no spin zone LMAO, actually took longer than i thought.

Maybe the whole board should have to post in NSZ since threads rarely stay on topic :kitten:
 
EllisUnit said:
WOW this got moved to the no spin zone LMAO, actually took longer than i thought.

Maybe the whole board should have to post in NSZ since threads rarely stay on topic :kitten:
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Think maybe you and 2012Champs had something to do with that? Atleast the thread can't be viewed by guests in the NSZ, because it is embarrassing.
 
TexansSeminole said:
Think maybe you and 2012Champs had something to do with that? Atleast the thread can't be viewed by guests in the NSZ, because it is embarrassing.
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Andre Johnson our Franchise player holding out is embarrassing, a 2-14 season is also, but not the little discussion me and champ had.

I only posted that because that went on for 3 days, then we finally agreed to stop talking about and THEN it gets moved.
 
2012Champs said:
Why on earth would it be embarrassing to you or anyone else?
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Because we have subsections for these topics yet can't keep our Texans news related threads from devolving into an "I know more about the recession than you do" debate. We are given some freedom on this board and perhaps that's not such a good thing. People come here for their primary Texans news source. You can't even check a thread about Andre Johnson's participation without having to sift through BS, long running, dick measuring contests on completely unrelated topics. I think it's embarrassing and a shame. The best player in our franchise's history may be moved and I didn't check this thread for about two weeks. I was itching for some additional information, even a rumor. I spent 20 minutes sifting through y'all's drivel.
 
TexansSeminole said:
Because we have subsections for these topics yet can't keep our Texans news related threads from devolving into an "I know more about the recession than you do" debate. We are given some freedom on this board and perhaps that's not such a good thing. People come here for their primary Texans news source. You can't even check a thread about Andre Johnson's participation without having to sift through BS, long running, dick measuring contests on completely unrelated topics. I think it's embarrassing and a shame. The best player in our franchise's history may be moved and I didn't check this thread for about two weeks. I was itching for some additional information, even a rumor. I spent 20 minutes sifting through y'all's drivel.
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Next time let me save you the headache and if you have that bad of an itch for news go to BSPN, or google Andre Johnson. Very simple we got off topic we are very sorry for starting WWIII, for the kids starving in Africa and Global warming ! My apologies....
 
TexansSeminole said:
Because we have subsections for these topics yet can't keep our Texans news related threads from devolving into an "I know more about the recession than you do" debate. We are given some freedom on this board and perhaps that's not such a good thing. People come here for their primary Texans news source. You can't even check a thread about Andre Johnson's participation without having to sift through BS, long running, dick measuring contests on completely unrelated topics. I think it's embarrassing and a shame. The best player in our franchise's history may be moved and I didn't check this thread for about two weeks. I was itching for some additional information, even a rumor. I spent 20 minutes sifting through y'all's drivel.
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I still don't get why you'd find it embarrassing. Is it a reflection of your behavior or character? Are you often embarrassed by the actions of total strangers? Whatever works for you
 
Thorn said:
Disturbing thread is disturbing.
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It is more than disturbing or embarrassing. A football thread that gets politically hijacked, and the "solution", instead of locking it down or deleting it, instead gets moved to the NSZ??

What a precedent setting move. Kudos! :rolleyes:
 
Marcus said:
It is more than disturbing or embarrassing. A football thread that gets politically hijacked, and the "solution", instead of locking it down or deleting it, instead gets moved to the NSZ??

What a precedent setting move. Kudos! :rolleyes:
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Yeah, lame move by the mod(s). 79 pages of football discussion and 2 pages of idiocy results in a move? Oh well, it's their sandbox.
 
Knife-wielding bum threatens to ‘kill Michael Strahan’

Andre Johnson, 25, pulled the knife and made threatening remarks about Strahan, the New York Giants football legend and part-time co-host of “Good Morning America,” during an argument with a security guard near the show’s sidewalk-side set at around 8 a.m., according to the sources.

A police officer working security for the network quickly intervened and knocked the blade from Johnson’s hand.

Johnson was instantly detained by police and authorities recovered a serrated knife at the scene, a source said.

When the maniac was questioned, he said, “I was there to kill Michael Strahan,” according to police sources.

Full article
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I figure this can become the All Encompassing Andre Johnson thread. :thisbig:
 
Well there's a new one - couch mods.

The thread will get moved back so the football portion is not lost and can continue now that the point has been made.
 
infantrycak said:
Well there's a new one - couch mods.

The thread will get moved back so the football portion is not lost and can continue now that the point has been made.
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I was just about to start a New & Improved Andre Johnson Holdout Thread. :nolisten:

But I'm cool with it being wherever. Holdouts by star players tend to bring out a lot of different perspectives and issues, and I think that's where this thread went off topic.
 
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