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2014 NFL Draft chatter/rumors/news

Gil Brandt ‏@Gil_Brandt
Thought Gilbert was underrated before today, but he could go as high as 3rd round now. Should have been combine invite.

#SMU QB Garrett Gilbert had unbelievable pro day. Completed 88 of 89 passes (if he had NFL WR would have been 89). 6-4, 223, 4.83 40
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idznK3qF9Oc

Gosselin: Why the NFL should've invited SMU's Garrett Gilbert, North Texas' Brelan Chancellor to combine

June Jones @CoachJuneJones
I have worked out 100's of NFL QB's in my day, Garrett Gilbert's workout today was the 2nd best one I have ever seen!! Next to Jeff George.
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And yet again, here is the issue with putting workouts ahead of game tape.

Yea, Gilbert looks fantastic in shorts and throwing routes against no defense. Then stick a pass rush in the guys face and force him to make quick decisions against zone defense and he wilts.
 
Also, just for reference...

Garrett Gilbert in 2 years under June Jones
59.7% completion, 36 TD's with 22 INT's, and 14 rushing TD's.
- ?

Colt Brennan in 2 years under June Jones
71.6% completion, 96 TD's with 29 INT's, and 13 rushing TD's.
- 6th round pick, never played in regular season game

Timmy Chang in 2 years under June Jones
59.1% completion, 67 TD's with 33 INT's, and 3 rushing TD's.
- Undrafted, never played in regular season game
 
WolverineFan said:
Also, just for reference...

Garrett Gilbert in 2 years under June Jones
59.7% completion, 36 TD's with 22 INT's, and 14 rushing TD's.
- ?

Colt Brennan in 2 years under June Jones
71.6% completion, 96 TD's with 29 INT's, and 13 rushing TD's.
- 6th round pick, never played in regular season game

Timmy Chang in 2 years under June Jones
59.1% completion, 67 TD's with 33 INT's, and 3 rushing TD's.
- Undrafted, never played in regular season game
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I thought Colt Brennan was a steal. I expected him to do something. SOMETHING.
 
WolverineFan said:
Also, just for reference...

Garrett Gilbert in 2 years under June Jones
59.7% completion, 36 TD's with 22 INT's, and 14 rushing TD's.
- ?

Colt Brennan in 2 years under June Jones
71.6% completion, 96 TD's with 29 INT's, and 13 rushing TD's.
- 6th round pick, never played in regular season game

Timmy Chang in 2 years under June Jones
59.1% completion, 67 TD's with 33 INT's, and 3 rushing TD's.
- Undrafted, never played in regular season game
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Gilbert has more physical talent than those other two combined.

With that said, your post above is absolutely correct. This guy is the poster child for why you don't overrate the importance of workouts.
 
bah007 said:
Gilbert has more physical talent than those other two combined.

With that said, your post above is absolutely correct. This guy is the poster child for why you don't overrate the importance of workouts.
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Gil Bryant says this is another one of "his" guys, but he's beginning to lose credibility with me when his relationships with these guys are revealed. Same when it was revealed Kiper was regularly speaking with/consulting Jimmy Clausen.
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...knows-theres-no-rg3-deal-to-be-had-this-year/

Two years ago, when St. Louis owned the second overall pick in the draft, it was able to convince Washington to give up that year’s No. 6 overall pick, that year’s No. 39 overall pick, and Washington’s 2013 and 2014 first-round picks. That 2014 first-round pick turned out to give the Rams the No. 2 overall pick again this year, and St. Louis would love to get another package of picks in another trade.
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But it’s not going to happen. Rams coach Jeff Fisher acknowledged that if the Rams do trade down, no team is going to give up anything close to what the Rams got in that 2014 trade because there’s no prospect as alluring as Robert Griffin III.
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Overall it's becoming more and more clear that if the Texans stay in the #1 spot the selection will be a defensive player. It's looking increasingly unlikely that a QB will go with the #1 pick. -- Adam Schefter on ESPN
 
Playoffs said:
Overall it's becoming more and more clear that if the Texans stay in the #1 spot the selection will be a defensive player. It's looking increasingly unlikely that a QB will go with the #1 pick. -- Adam Schefter on ESPN
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Hope its Mack if they pull the trigger on a defensive player.
 
( tweets read bottom(oldest)-to-top)

Chris Trapasso ‏@ChrisTrapasso
Though he's under 6'4", he has very long arms. Tough to slot him in NFL. IMO, he can play LT or RT but stud OG potential. Think Jahri Evans.

Thomas' pass pro wasn't outstanding. He waits for rushers to get into his body & can whiff though he wins a decent amount of edge battles.

He's a knee bender who wins with leverage/pure strength at POA & is spatially aware & athletic enough to typically hit 2nd-level targets.

This might already be out there, but Clemson's Brandon Thomas is a downright mauler vs. the run. Technically sound too.
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That'd work. MT @NFLDraftTracker: I'd slot him as ILB hammer in a 3-4. Not 250+ type but he plays w/ that kind of power, can drop into zones

I think Zumwalt's more of a pure MLB in the NFL than a WLB. He tracks crossers, gets good depth in coverage and can run with *some* TEs.

He can be slow to read/react & he plays upright. Plus he's always looking for the huge hit, but there's a lot of Kiko Alonso to his game.

...Jordan Zumwalt is a bully at 6'4" and around 235. Sheds well. Dropped in coverage often. Downhill wrecking ball with good range.

Couple notes on a few prospects from my film-watching session today...
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Seantrel Henderson allegedly quit his Pro Day today halfway through the workout. No explanation as of why just yet.

Still though, this guy has been an absolute headcase since high school and is unlikely to do anything at the next level. People will still love him for his measureables though and he's still sure to get drafted.
 
Anyone who states they know where the texans are leaning is lying. Even scheffter whom is really accurate don't have a clue. All u have to do is remember the 06 draft.
 
WolverineFan said:
Seantrel Henderson allegedly quit his Pro Day today halfway through the workout. No explanation as of why just yet.

Still though, this guy has been an absolute headcase since high school and is unlikely to do anything at the next level. People will still love him for his measureables though and he's still sure to get drafted.
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Yikes. I wonder if God told him that he didn't need to finish the workout like that guy at the combine.
 
WolverineFan said:
Still though, this guy has been an absolute headcase since high school and is unlikely to do anything at the next level. People will still love him for his measureables though and he's still sure to get drafted.
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We could draft Clowney, McCullers, Henderson, Archer as the all-measurables draft.

Any other outliers we need to include?
 
kiwitexansfan said:
We could draft Clowney, McCullers, Henderson, Archer as the all-measurables draft.

Any other outliers we need to include?
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There's nothing wrong with measureables when guys produce. Clowney and Archer produced in college. It's when guys don't produce when you need to check yourself.
 
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/sports/the-5-most-interesting-rumors-circling-the-nfl-draft.html/

“If we decide to draft this guy, we’re not just going to play him at one position,” head coach Bill O’Brien told fans and suite holders. “We may start him off at one position but use him in a lot of different ways. He’s a unique talent but again, that’s if we draft him.” This ‘if’ seems to be a matter of internal debate, as word out of Houston seems to suggest that they’re trying to trade down.
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Source: Clemson offensive lineman Brandon Thomas tore his ACL during a private workout last week with the New Orleans Saints

Clemson offensive lineman Brandon Thomas tore his anterior cruciate ligament during a private workout last week with the New Orleans Saints, according to a league source.

Thomas will undergo surgery soon to repair the damage following a serious knee injury a month out from the NFL draft.

Thomas excelled during the Senior Bowl, drawing praise from NFL scouts at his technique and aggressiveness as he finished off blocks and displayed a nasty streak.

Thomas was drawing second-round and third-round grades from draft analysts prior to the injury and was regarded as a rising draft prospect.

Thomas is still expected to do well in the draft, but obviously the timing of the injury will affect his draft stock.
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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com...tml?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Did I finally beat Playoffs?!
 
NCTexan said:
Source: Clemson offensive lineman Brandon Thomas tore his ACL during a private workout last week with the New Orleans Saints



http://www.nationalfootballpost.com...tml?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Did I finally beat Playoffs?!
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not sure, saw it posted yesterday somewhere :um:

terrible break for the young man. quick question, do these prospects already have agents in place with insurance packages or are teams on the hook when invited to facilities for workout?

I would certainly look at him for Texans with one of those 6th rd. selections. I hope he doesn't fall this far, but if he did certainly wouldn't be Mr. Irrelevant?
 
beerlover said:
not sure, saw it posted yesterday somewhere :um:

terrible break for the young man. quick question, do these prospects already have agents in place with insurance packages or are teams on the hook when invited to facilities for workout?
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According to this article about 75% are insured.

I would certainly look at him for Texans with one of those 6th rd. selections. I hope he doesn't fall this far, but if he did certainly wouldn't be Mr. Irrelevant?
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As a 6th or 7th round pick I think he'll be a steal, assuming he recovers alright. Put him on IR for the first year and I'd be super pleased.
 
NCTexan said:
Did I finally beat Playoffs?!
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Almost: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2323475#post2323475

:fingergun:
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NCTexan said:
According to this article about 75% are insured.



As a 6th or 7th round pick I think he'll be a steal, assuming he recovers alright. Put him on IR for the first year and I'd be super pleased.
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Seems like half our picks last year were on IR. You say we should draft a guy just to IR him?
 
DX-TEX said:
Seems like half our picks last year were on IR. You say we should draft a guy just to IR him?
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In the 6th or 7th round? With this guy I think we should. He was easily a 2nd or 3rd rounder before this and if he's there in one of our later 6th round picks I'd be willing to do it for a mauler like him. But I probably wouldn't take him 6-1, and definitely not earlier.

I understand why that might not be a popular thought though.

Playoffs said:
Almost: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2323475#post2323475

:fingergun:
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While I appreciate being let down easy, 20 hours isn't really almost.

:kitten:
 
Seems like the Jaguars are making an attempt to bring in the entire 2014 draft class in for visits.
 
LSU Pro Day today, one of the biggest single school days...

Dan Kadar ‏@MockingTheDraft
You can watch LSU's pro day online at noon: http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=209457995#.U0VWmVvzSUA.twitter …
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http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=205112574&DB_OEM_ID=5200
Code: 
Barrow, Lamin	OLB	6'1"	237
Beckham, Odell	WR	5'11"	198
Blue, Alfred	RB	6'2"	223
Copeland, J.C.	FB	5'11"	271
Ferguson, Ego	DT	6'3"	315
Hill, Jeremy	RB	6'1"	233
Johnson,Anthony	DT	6'2"	308
Landry, Jarvis	WR	5'11"	205
Loston, Craig	SS	5'11"	217
Mettenberger,Zach QB	6'5"	224
Turner, Trai	OG	6'3"	310
 
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kiwitexansfan said:
We could draft Clowney, McCullers, Henderson, Archer as the all-measurables draft.

Any other outliers we need to include?
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McCullers/Clowney shouldn't be included in the Henderson group. McCullers is a 352 lbs man who played too many snaps last yr. It's impossible for a man that big to keep up his stamina for a full game. He needed a break but the Vols had very little depth in the DL.

Personally I thought McCullers and Clowney made impacts on the game. I see McCullers as a 5 tech in RAC's defense.

I will be doing a mock soon that will reflect this. You should check it out and give me your thoughts.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Seems like the Jaguars are making an attempt to bring in the entire 2014 draft class in for visits.
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Seems like they are leaving no stone unturned.

Maybe the Texans org could learn a thing or two.

They do seem to be bringing in more guys than the past regime.
 
steelbtexan said:
Seems like they are leaving no stone unturned.

Maybe the Texans org could learn a thing or two.

They do seem to be bringing in more guys than the past regime.
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I think they finally made a good coaching change. Gus Bradley has an aura around him so suspect ownership has given him not just the keys to the car but house money to turn things around.
 
NCTexan said:
According to this article about 75% are insured.



As a 6th or 7th round pick I think he'll be a steal, assuming he recovers alright. Put him on IR for the first year and I'd be super pleased.
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Insured yes, if not drafted.

But not insured for the difference between being a 2nd rd pick before injury and a 6th rd pick after injury.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Seems like the Jaguars are making an attempt to bring in the entire 2014 draft class in for visits.
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30 maximum visits per team. I like the idea of having all the QBs there at the same time and jacking with them a bit. One per room, go room-to-room, back and forth, test their retention, amp up their anxiety. Take them all out to dinner together and stir the pot, see how they all act/react.
 
beerlover said:
I think they finally made a good coaching change. Gus Bradley has an aura around him so suspect ownership has given him not just the keys to the car but house money to turn things around.
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I really love the O'Brien hire here, but I have to admit that I'm scared of Bradley.
 
steelbtexan said:
McCullers/Clowney shouldn't be included in the Henderson group. McCullers is a 352 lbs man who played too many snaps last yr. It's impossible for a man that big to keep up his stamina for a full game. He needed a break but the Vols had very little depth in the DL.

Personally I thought McCullers and Clowney made impacts on the game. I see McCullers as a 5 tech in RAC's defense.

I will be doing a mock soon that will reflect this. You should check it out and give me your thoughts.
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Never considered McCullers as a 5tech.

Who do you have as potential NTs?
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Never considered McCullers as a 5tech.

Who do you have as potential NTs?
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Rd.1 Nix
Rd.3 DaQuan Jones
3-4. Justin Ellis who I also believe has the feet to play the 5 tech.
Rd.5 Beau Allen/Carrethers/Caraun Reid
Rd.6 Deandre Coleman, who could also play the 5 tech/Zack Kerr/Khyri Thorton
Rd.7 Mike Pennel/Robert Thomas/Bruce Gaston
 
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