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2014 Texans Talk Mock Draft SELECTION

2 ( 142 ) Washington Redskins ( kiwitexansfan ) ON THE CLOCK: 1:00pm - 5:00pm
3 ( 143 ) Tampa Bay Buccaneers ( TexansSeminole )
4 ( 144 ) Jacksonville Jaguars ( The Pencil Neck ) PM'ed
5 ( 145 ) Cleveland Browns ( Dutchrudder )
6 ( 146 ) Seattle Seahawks ( Bah007 )
7 ( 147 ) Atlanta Falcons ( JCTexan )
 
The Washington Piscataway with the 2nd pick of round 5 select....

A man unafraid to wear pink

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Terrence Mitchell - Cornerback - Oregon - PAC12

We've already taken two great cover guys and we are adding a third with Mitchell.

He has great instincts and has the big hairy ones required to take a chance to make a play.

I could see him making some spectacular plays and some real f-ups but he has the confidence to shake it off.


DC so far: Joyner - S, Turner - OT, Smith - LB, Mitchell - CB
 
Minus pick #2 this draft went exactly the way I had planned it and I know yall might hate it, but relax, cause I love it and could care less.

I'm just trying to crack jokes FYI, if you don't like anything or have reasons why you might do something different I'm all ears. My immediate reaction is to always become defensive, but I like being educated and learning more than I already know (or think I do) and always appreciate it later (unless you're dumb).
 
TexansFTW said:
My intention pre-draft was to get Van Noy in the 2nd to force Brooks Reed to move inside. He got drafted a little bit earlier than I would have liked and I had to throw that strategy out the window. Regardless, I still want Brooks Reed to be my guy playing inside w/ Cush.
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What do you like about Reed as a ILB?

He was a DE in college and know he's going to be a ILB?
 
Tampa Bay selects Dontae Johnson - FS - North Carolina State - ACC

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6-2 200 lbs with a 31.5" arm length. He ran a 4.45 at the combine and posted a 38.5" vertical. He was also the best of the cornerbacks in the 60 yard shuttle with an 11.06 time.

He played some nickel, some outside corner and some safety in college. Versatile player that could end up as either a corner or safety. He's a hard worker and reports are that his technique has already started improving since the end of the season. Upside potential too good to pass on him here.

Purifoy and Johnson were two guys that were difficult to pass on.

TB so far 1. Mosley, 2. Cooks, 3. Purifoy, 5. Johnson
 
kiwitexansfan said:
The Washington Piscataway with the 2nd pick of round 5 select....

A man unafraid to wear pink

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Terrence Mitchell - Cornerback - Oregon - PAC12

We've already taken two great cover guys and we are adding a third with Mitchell.

He has great instincts and has the big hairy ones required to take a chance to make a play.

I could see him making some spectacular plays and some real f-ups but he has the confidence to shake it off.


DC so far: Joyner - S, Turner - OT, Smith - LB, Mitchell - CB
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Damn you. He was going to be the Vikings developmental corner behind the new signings.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
What do you like about Reed as a ILB?

He was a DE in college and know he's going to be a ILB?
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He's been training as an ILB hard the past 2 seasons in camp and it might have just been coach speak, but I feel like I remember Wade saying he would start at ILB if it wasn't for the more pressing need to have him outside.

I don't think he is good enough to be an OLB in the NFL so far. He's a failed 2nd round pick IMO, but before I throw away a 2nd round pick I generally want to give them one final shot.

That's all me going off memory, but here is a quick Google search:

I noted nearly one year ago this week (ironically, also in the wake of another season-ending injury for Brian Cushing) that Brooks Reed has a knack for playing inside linebacker, and even Texans linebacker coach Reggie Herring has referred to Reed as the second-best inside linebacker on the team in the past.
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http://www.battleredblog.com/2013/10/24/5022814/writing-on-the-wall-for-brooks-reed-position-change
 
5 ( 145 ) Cleveland Browns ( Dutchrudder ) ON THE CLOCK: 1:20pm - 5:20pm
6 ( 146 ) Seattle Seahawks ( Bah007 )
7 ( 147 ) Atlanta Falcons ( JCTexan )
8 ( 148 ) Minnesota Vikings ( NCTexan )
9 ( 149 ) Buffalo Bills ( Blake )
10 ( 150 ) Jacksonville Jaguars ( The Pencil Neck )
11 ( 151 ) Tennessee Titans ( The Pencil Neck )
 
TexansFTW said:
He's been training as an ILB hard the past 2 seasons in camp and it might have just been coach speak, but I feel like I remember Wade saying he would start at ILB if it wasn't for the more pressing need to have him outside.

I don't think he is good enough to be an OLB in the NFL so far. He's a failed 2nd round pick IMO, but before I throw away a 2nd round pick I generally want to give them one final shot.

That's all me going off memory, but here is a quick Google search:



http://www.battleredblog.com/2013/10/24/5022814/writing-on-the-wall-for-brooks-reed-position-change
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Thanks for that
 
htownfan32 said:
How much more does Steve Smith have left to give? Not saying Mike Davis is good enough to supplant him, but Davis adds a returning factor to the team (other than Jacoby) and can ease his way into the starting lineup as Smith gets older.

(Was thinking towards the future, also kind of forgot about Smith :kitten: )
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Not saying Davis was a bad pick.

I like the Reid/Johnson/Zumwalt picks.

If the draft falls this way I hope Rick drafts Reid and trades back up to the front of the 5th rd for Zumwalt. These are 2 guys that put football 1st.
 
TexansSeminole said:
What are people's thoughts on Dontae Johnson? I haven't heard his name come up around here at all.
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Big fan of his. Love that pick. He was one of the top players left on my board.

I think he's very underrated. Great athlete. Hybrid player who can play nickel, FS, or SS depending on situation.
 
bah007 said:
Big fan of his. Love that pick. He was one of the top players left on my board.

I think he's very underrated. Great athlete. Hybrid player who can play nickel, FS, or SS depending on situation.
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I'd never heard of him but from what you guys are saying I think I would love the guy too.
 
TexansSeminole said:
What are people's thoughts on Dontae Johnson? I haven't heard his name come up around here at all.
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I thought about taking him with my last 49ers pick, but went with Millard at the last minute.

I really like him as a prospect. Tall and fluid athlete that can play CB or FS. Doesn't get the same hype as other tall CB's like McGill or Jean-Baptiste because he's not as long. His arm length is average so despite being 6-2, he doesn't fully fit that mold of long press CB that seems to be the craze right now.
 
TexansFTW said:
If you are referring to the Texans, then good sir, you will get nothing.

There’s nothing wrong with double dipping that flavorless cheap, especially if you aren’t 100% positive that first dip was enough to get that correct taste going. With that said the Houston Texans select:

Caraun Reid - DT - Princeton - Ivy League

Word on the street is that we are going to be running a hybrid 3-4/4-3. If any of that is true we need more than 3/4 capable DLinemen, which is why I think that our Boy Caraun here is versatile and can fit well in both sets as both depth and a starter.

I also believe that since we just brought in one Ivy Leaguer that we needed to bring in a 2nd so the that Ryan wouldn’t get lonely talking about differential equations and advanced probabilities by himself. Now he has someone that he can bounce ideas off of.
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You surprised me there. I was expecting Zumwalt.

But once I thought about it, I agree. Good pick.
 
TexansFTW said:
Minus pick #2 this draft went exactly the way I had planned it and I know yall might hate it, but relax, cause I love it and could care less.

I'm just trying to crack jokes FYI, if you don't like anything or have reasons why you might do something different I'm all ears. My immediate reaction is to always become defensive, but I like being educated and learning more than I already know (or think I do) and always appreciate it later (unless you're dumb).
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TEXANS DRAFT:
1 (#1) QB - Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville
2 (#33) DE/OLB - Kony Ealy, Missouri
3 (#65) DE/DT - Kelcy Quarles, South Carolina
4 (#101) NT - Daniel McCullers, Tennessee
4 (#135) OT/OG - Michael Schofield, Michigan
5 (#141) DT - Caraun Reid, Princeton

- The Bridgewater pick was expected. In a mock where there is no trading I fully expected a QB here. Bridgewater is my favorite, but I could live with Bortles as well.

- Wasn't a fan of the Ealy pick because he's not big or strong enough to play DE and I questioned his ability to stand up at OLB. That said, I understand the logic here and it's great value.

- Loved the Quarles pick. Exactly the kind of player we need at DE.

- Already spoke on the McCullers pick. Not a personal fan of his although I understand the logic of taking him.

- Not as high on Schofield as some, but I've also followed him for 5 years already. I think he's an NFL talent, but not a starting one. I see him as a swing tackle with the versatility to play OG. Not a bad pick at all though.

- Love Reid and he was an absolute steal here. I question him as a 3-4 DE because that's not utilizing his skill set, but if we do play a ton of hybrid then I really like the pick because he's a disruptor as a 4-3 DT.

I like the draft so far. Really like how focused it is on the front seven because that is a huge problem are for us right now.
 
I think Schofield could be an average starting LG, a below average starting LT, or a solid depth swing tackle.
 
The Cleveland Browns select

Adrian Hubbard - OLB - Alabama - SEC

Big tall dude at 6'6 257 pounds. Paul Kruger is vastly overpaid, so I expect him to be leaving the team in the near future. Hubbard will be behind Jabaal Sheard and Kruger for a couple of years, so he will have some time to develop and bulk up. His lack of muscle was a knock on him going into the draft, but if he can get in the weight room and work on his strength he could develop into a solid OLB in the future. This is somewhat of a project pick, but in the 5-7 rounds, that's the time to take a chance, not at #10 overall... :)
 
WolverineFan said:
I'm not a Texas fan, but I have plenty of friends who are so I usually watch 3-4 games a year. I don't get Mike Davis.

When I say that, I don't mean that I don't get why people like him as a prospect. I understand that. What I mean is, I don't understand him as a player. The guy will get behind a DB by 10 yards on a deep ball and make a great sideline catch and then on the next play he'll drop a 5 yard hitch. It's baffling. He's very inconsistent and only seems to excel downfield.
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Davis will be a much better Pro. You have to take into consideration the horrendous QB play he was matched with throughout most of his career at Texas.
 
Proxy pick for bah007 via PM.

The Seattle Seahawks select...

DeAndre Coleman - DE/DT - California - Pac 12


*bah007 left no explanation for his pick but it screams Red Bryant replacement at DE. Great fit and value here. The strong get stronger.
 
TexansFTW said:
Minus pick #2 this draft went exactly the way I had planned it and I know yall might hate it, but relax, cause I love it and could care less.

I'm just trying to crack jokes FYI, if you don't like anything or have reasons why you might do something different I'm all ears. My immediate reaction is to always become defensive, but I like being educated and learning more than I already know (or think I do) and always appreciate it later (unless you're dumb).
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If that's the case then I would have probably gone with another OT than Schofield. Preferably a LT in college who is familiar with playing LT in the event if needed could play LT in Duane Brown's absence. As of right now the Texans do not have a LT backup, much less an adequate LT backup.
 
7 ( 147 ) Atlanta Falcons ( JCTexan ) ON THE CLOCK: 2:15pm - 6:15pm
8 ( 148 ) Minnesota Vikings ( NCTexan )
9 ( 149 ) Buffalo Bills ( Blake )
10 ( 150 ) Jacksonville Jaguars ( The Pencil Neck ) PM'ed
11 ( 151 ) Tennessee Titans ( The Pencil Neck ) PM'ed
12 ( 152 ) New York Giants ( mussop )
13 ( 153 ) St. Louis Rams ( RT22 )
 
Texian said:
If that's the case then I would have probably gone with another OT than Schofield. Preferably a LT in college who is familiar with playing LT in the event if needed could play LT in Duane Brown's absence. As of right now the Texans do not have a LT backup, much less an adequate LT backup.
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What about Q Berry? I thought that was supposed to be one of his functions.
 
With the 147th pick the Atlanta Falcons select..

Ryan Carrethers - NT - Arkansas State - Belt

Carrethers boasts a big body that looks a lot like a lane-clogging 330 lbs. Yet the one thing that really jumps out about Carrethers is his stat sheet: how does a 330 lbs guy record over 90 tackles in one season? The answer can be found by looking at his tape against Louisiana-Lafayette, where he recorded 16 tackles in one game alone: Carrethers is a two-gapping machine. He is a brilliant read-react defender, holding up the OL and flowing to the ball (between the tackles). Carrethers would be great as a nose tackle in any two-gapping system.
 
8 ( 148 ) Minnesota Vikings ( NCTexan ) ON THE CLOCK: 2:45pm - 6:45pm
9 ( 149 ) Buffalo Bills ( Blake )
10 ( 150 ) Jacksonville Jaguars ( The Pencil Neck ) PM'ed
11 ( 151 ) Tennessee Titans ( The Pencil Neck ) PM'ed
12 ( 152 ) New York Giants ( mussop )
13 ( 153 ) St. Louis Rams ( RT22 )
 
JCTexan said:
With the 147th pick the Atlanta Falcons select..

Ryan Carrethers - NT - Arkansas State - Belt

Carrethers boasts a big body that looks a lot like a lane-clogging 330 lbs. Yet the one thing that really jumps out about Carrethers is his stat sheet: how does a 330 lbs guy record over 90 tackles in one season? The answer can be found by looking at his tape against Louisiana-Lafayette, where he recorded 16 tackles in one game alone: Carrethers is a two-gapping machine. He is a brilliant read-react defender, holding up the OL and flowing to the ball (between the tackles). Carrethers would be great as a nose tackle in any two-gapping system.
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Fantastic Pick.

Like him for the Texans.
 
Vikings select Caleb Lavey, ILB, Oklahoma State.

I think this kid has the potential to develop into a good ILB, especially in defending the pass. This is probably a little early for him, but the Vikings really need LB help, and he will prove being worth this selection in my mind if a team gives him the chance.

Vikings draft so far:
OLB - Anthony Barr
DE - Dee Ford
QB - Zach Mettenberger
SS - Craig Loston
WR - Robert Herron
ILB - Caleb Lavey
 
Blake and the Buffalo Bills Select:

Colt Lyerla - TE - Oregon

Might be high due to character concerns, but he is a talented TE and can really help the Bills if he has his head on straight.

Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M
Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida State
Cyril Richardson - OG - Baylor
Will Clarke - DE - West Virginia
Colt Lyerla - TE - Oregon
 
Blake said:
Blake and the Buffalo Bills Select:

Colt Lyerla - TE - Oregon

Might be high due to character concerns, but he is a talented TE and can really help the Bills if he has his head on straight.

Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M
Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida State
Cyril Richardson - OG - Baylor
Will Clarke - DE - West Virginia
Colt Lyerla - TE - Oregon
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Ah. I was looking at him later in this round.
 
The Jacksonville Jaguars select:

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Ego Ferguson - DT - LSU - SEC

He's a big guy with some concerns but there you go. I think this is late enough to warrant the risk on him.
 
With the 151st pick, the Titans select:

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Michael Sam - DE/OLB - Missouri - SEC

The Titans need more pass-rush. They're moving to a 3-4 and they're going to be looking for Sam to be able to stand up and just go after the passer.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
The Jacksonville Jaguars select:

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Ego Ferguson - DT - LSU - SEC

He's a big guy with some concerns but there you go. I think this is late enough to warrant the risk on him.
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Can someone explain to me why this guy has a 2-3 round rating from a bunch of places? Am I missing some big game of his against top competition?

I'm not knocking the pick here, because I think the 5th or later is where he belongs, but I honestly never saw him do much on tape. Anthony Johnson looked much more appealing to me, but even he seemed like a 4th rounder.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Can someone explain to me why this guy has a 2-3 round rating from a bunch of places? Am I missing some big game of his against top competition?

I'm not knocking the pick here, because I think the 5th or later is where he belongs, but I honestly never saw him do much on tape. Anthony Johnson looked much more appealing to me, but even he seemed like a 4th rounder.
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He's more of a potential guy, which is why I don't mind him going at this point and why I don't mind him going to a defensive minded coach.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
He's more of a potential guy, which is why I don't mind him going at this point and why I don't mind him going to a defensive minded coach.
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Tools are there for sure. Development could turn him into a solid starter. Not a college tape standout but with coaching he should be much more visible during the game.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
With the 151st pick, the Titans select:

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Michael Sam - DE/OLB - Missouri - SEC

The Titans need more pass-rush. They're moving to a 3-4 and they're going to be looking for Sam to be able to stand up and just go after the passer.
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Of course this is all hypothetical, and I refuse to comment any more on the Michael Sam debate other than simply finding this ironic:

Twitter study find Tennessee Fans least receptive to Michael Sam - CBS

Also, this is around where I expect Michael Sam to go.
 
Blake said:
Blake and the Buffalo Bills Select:

Colt Lyerla - TE - Oregon

Might be high due to character concerns, but he is a talented TE and can really help the Bills if he has his head on straight.

Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M
Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida State
Cyril Richardson - OG - Baylor
Will Clarke - DE - West Virginia
Colt Lyerla - TE - Oregon
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Someone will do it.
 
12 ( 152 ) New York Giants ( mussop ) ON THE CLOCK: 4:00pm - 8:00pm
13 ( 153 ) St. Louis Rams ( RT22 )
14 ( 154 ) New York Jets ( steelbtexan )
15 ( 155 ) Miami Dolphins ( htownfan32 )
16 ( 156 ) Chicago Bears ( steelbtexan )
17 ( 157 ) Pittsburgh Steelers ( Rock N Randy )
18 ( 158 ) Dallas Cowboys ( Thetexanator )
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I almost said, "Let the jokes begin." I hadn't seen that about the Titans fans being the least receptive to him. I really debated about putting him here but it seemed the right place.
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Yeah I get the feeling that around here is the right place for him too, whether it be the Titans or with another team in this pick range.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I almost said, "Let the jokes begin." I hadn't seen that about the Titans fans being the least receptive to him. I really debated about putting him here but it seemed the right place.
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Ive always called them the "Flaming" Thumb Tacks, so he should be right at home there.

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TexansFTW said:
What about Q Berry? I thought that was supposed to be one of his functions.
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Just IMHO, doesn't make it right or make it so. Quessenberry was a 6th RD pick vs Newton a 7th RD pick. QBerry hasn't played a down and QBerry and Newton Combine #s almost mirror each other. IMHO that's a big jump/assumption for QBerry.

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that QBerry is anything more than any other late rd OL drafted by Smubiak. If you're using history as a judge then you should expect disappointment. It is very possible that QBerry is not as good as Newton.

BTW Reid in the 5th is a GREAT pick!
 
So far, this is Ozzie Newsome/htownfan32's haul for the Baltimore Ravens:

17(17) Eric Ebron - TE - North Carolina
16(48) Jack Mewhort - OG - Ohio State
15(79) Marcus Martin - C - USC
35(99) Jeremy Hill - RB - LSU
34(134) Ahmad Dixon - SS - Baylor
38(138) Mike Davis - WR - Texas

Not bad, not bad. Ebron, Mewhort, Martin should be starters. Hill will probably get a good amount of snaps (more depending on how Ray Rice's situation develops). Dixon will get solid playing time, possibly even start. Davis should see snaps and will have an expanded role in the future.

Here's Miami's:

19(19) Zack Martin - OL - Notre Dame
18(50) Allen Robinson - WR - Penn State
17(81) JaWuan James - OT - Tennessee
16(116) Anthony Johnson - DT - LSU

Also not bad, but my God, Baltimore has a ton of picks to work with in this draft.
 
htownfan32 said:
So far, this is Ozzie Newsome/htownfan32's haul for the Baltimore Ravens:

17(17) Eric Ebron - TE - North Carolina
16(48) Jack Mewhort - OG - Ohio State
15(79) Marcus Martin - C - USC
35(99) Jeremy Hill - RB - LSU
34(134) Ahmad Dixon - SS - Baylor
38(138) Mike Davis - WR - Texas

Not bad, not bad. Ebron, Mewhort, Martin should be starters. Hill will probably get a good amount of snaps (more depending on how Ray Rice's situation develops). Dixon will get solid playing time, possibly even start. Davis should see snaps and will have an expanded role in the future.

Here's Miami's:

19(19) Zack Martin - OL - Notre Dame
18(50) Allen Robinson - WR - Penn State
17(81) JaWuan James - OT - Tennessee
16(116) Anthony Johnson - DT - LSU

Also not bad, but my God, Baltimore has a ton of picks to work with in this draft.
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Pretty good.

Here's the Titans so far:

Justin Gilbert, CB
Tre Mason, RB
A.J. McCarron, QB
Michael Sam - OLB/DE

But. The onslaught that is the Jaguar's Draft has just begun. These guys have a zillion picks this year.

Jadeveon Clowney, DE/OLB
David Yankey, OG
Jimmy Garoppolo, QB
Terrance West, RB
Victor Hampton, CB
Ego Ferguson, DT

And they've got a ton more picks on the way.

I hate the Jags.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Pretty good.

Here's the Titans so far:

Justin Gilbert, CB
Tre Mason, RB
A.J. McCarron, QB
Michael Sam - OLB/DE

But. The onslaught that is the Jaguar's Draft has just begun. These guys have a zillion picks this year.

Jadeveon Clowney, DE/OLB
David Yankey, OG
Jimmy Garoppolo, QB
Terrance West, RB
Victor Hampton, CB
Ego Ferguson, DT

And they've got a ton more picks on the way.

I hate the Jags.
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Yikes. This is a good draft in which to have a lot of picks. Starters all the way to the 4th round, if you ask me.
 
The Giants only have 20 minutes left on their clock so let's start tossing ideas around.

GIANTS DRAFT:
1 - Taylor Lewan - OT, Michigan
2 - Troy Niklas - TE, Notre Dame
3 - Ka'Deem Carey - RB, Arizona
4 - Seantrel Henderson - OT, Miami

They have yet to address the OLB position, where they have a huge need, so I think that should be the easy choice here. Maybe a DT if it's BPA.
 
Proxy pick for the New York Giants after running over their deadline.

The New York Giants select...

Kevin Pierre-Louis - OLB - Boston College - ACC
 
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