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2013 College Football Season

TexansSeminole said:
We're not at the next level, we are watching college football right now. I thought Manziel had one hell of a performance. He was responsible for 53 of their 71 plays via run or pass and played extremely well against a good defense. He made some mistakes, but that is to be expected when you are responsible for 75% of your teams offensive plays against a good defense.

Seems clear to me that he had a good game and that the defense was the clear problem for A&M.
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Don't mind him. he's an admitted hater. Had Manziel gotten the comeback he'd just disappear and only start talking again when manziel made another mistake.


Notice he didn't show up till AFTER Alabama got a lead.
 
Mr teX said:
He did...accept it.... His mistakes led directly to points on the board... Accept it.

A&M's defense wasn't going to stop Bama..they were at least gonna put up 30.... They damn near put up 30 last year....his mistakes spotted them another 14 and took 7 off the board for them...

If this were the texans and Schaub did this folks would be calling for his head...
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Clearly there is no reasonable conversation to be had when talking to you about Manziel.
 
Throwing the rock up for grabs and depending on your wr to make the play for you NUMEROUS times makes you a great college qb?...ok if you say so.
 
Wolf said:
Clearly Tex doesn't understand mismatches
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Clearly he doesn't understand much about college football.

He's like a negative VY-fanboy. instead of thinking a QB is the best ever and can do no wrong, he thinks Manziel is horrible and can do nothing right, even when all the evidence says otherwise.
 
Aggies were good today. Their defense is slowly morphing into the Houston Cougars D but they got a buttload of offense and while I personally don't care much for Johnny Paycheck he is a hell of a football player.

Aggie fans should be pleased. I was hoping they'd get the **** beat out of them to maybe shut up some of the "instant" (just add winning!) fans who have popped up in my circle recently but this will do.
 
Wolf said:
Clearly Tex doesn't understand mismatches
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I understand mismatches just fine....I just don't think that him throwing it up to a guy with a clear size advantage makes him a great qb is all...on those type of plays, the WR is the guy who shoulders the largest part of the responsibility to ensure those plays are a success....the qb just has to get it in the vicinity of guys like that....this isn't even counting that garbage he threw up in the middle of the field that somehow got concerted for a 1st in the 1st half.

we've seen stafford do this with megaton for years.....and we always come away thinking that it was Johnson who made the play work not stafford.
 
I am disappointed, but I'm also really not sad. I was impressed by the fight we put up, and to be honest though losses this close hurt, they also show that we can hang with the big boys too. If we had gotten blown out, everyone would have started talking trash about how our victory last year was a fluke - instead, they'll talk about a hard battle and hopefully the birth of a great rivalry. I was impressed by the politeness of Bama fans, and I can honestly say we did the right thing coming to the SEC.

Did we have issues? Yes. We also have youth, and lots of it. This is a team that is only going to get better with time. We have a great conference, great foes, and that kind of greatness breeds greatness of its own. Our star is still ascendant in Texas. The future is bright for A&M football, and I'm damn glad I've got 2.5 seasons left in the tank while I'm still here.

Congrats to Bama. They showed guts, just like our boys did, and they came out with a deserved victory. Looking forward to a great and rich rivalry between our progams for many years to come.

Farmers Fight! Farmers Fight! Farmers Farmers Fight!
 
Stemp said:
Clearly he doesn't understand much about college football.

He's like a negative VY-fanboy. instead of thinking a QB is the best ever and can do no wrong, he thinks Manziel is horrible and can do nothing right, even when all the evidence says otherwise.
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What evidence? His stats? The system lends itself to stats as we've seen countless other qb's in this system or similar systems Throw up monster stats. just b/c he's the 1st to be able to test it out in the SEC doesn't mean he's a great qb....

I'm gonna let u make it though u seem :kingkong::mad:
 
htownfan32 said:
I am disappointed, but I'm also really not sad. I was impressed by the fight we put up, and to be honest though losses this close hurt, they also show that we can hang with the big boys too. If we had gotten blown out, everyone would have started talking trash about how our victory last year was a fluke - instead, they'll talk about a hard battle and hopefully the birth of a great rivalry. I was impressed by the politeness of Bama fans, and I can honestly say we did the right thing coming to the SEC.

Did we have issues? Yes. We also have youth, and lots of it. This is a team that is only going to get better with time. We have a great conference, great foes, and that kind of greatness breeds greatness of its own. Our star is still ascendant in Texas. The future is bright for A&M football, and I'm damn glad I've got 2.5 seasons left in the tank while I'm still here.

Congrats to Bama. They showed guts, just like our boys did, and they came out with a deserved victory. Looking forward to a great and rich rivalry between our progams for many years to come.

Farmers Fight! Farmers Fight! Farmers Farmers Fight!
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Great post..if Manziel sticks around another year and learns how to be a TRUE pocket passer, get some more talent on defense u guys are primed for a run....
 
I don't care what you call it, or how it translates. I sure do enjoy watching that boy play football.
 
Also, for the record, as far as draft-related talk goes... McCarron looked sharp today. Whether it was our defense being bad or McCarron just being good, but boy did that guy look like a general on the field.
 
Mr teX said:
What evidence? His stats? The system lends itself to stats as we've seen countless other qb's in this system or similar systems Throw up monster stats. just b/c he's the 1st to be able to test it out in the SEC doesn't mean he's a great qb....

I'm gonna let u make it though u seem :kingkong::mad:
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The stats are fairly equal between both teams. The difference in the game were the 2 INTs and the only one completely on Manziel is the one in the endzone.

You have already admitted you are Manziel hater. Even if he repeats as the Heisman winner you won't change your mind. Even if A&M wins out and wins a BCS bowl you won't change your mind. Even if A&M won this game, you wouldn't change your mind. So your opinion and objectivity is pretty much worthless.
 
Mr teX said:
What evidence? His stats? The system lends itself to stats as we've seen countless other qb's in this system or similar systems Throw up monster stats. just b/c he's the 1st to be able to test it out in the SEC doesn't mean he's a great qb....

I'm gonna let u make it though u seem :kingkong::mad:
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Ah yes, the system argument. The flaw in your plan is that those "system" quarterbacks always received a comeuppance against good competition. Manziel had those numbers against the top ranked team in the country for two consecutive years. You're a hater, we get it. At least try to be an honest hater.

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Stemp said:
The stats are fairly equal between both teams. The difference in the game were the 2 INTs and the only one completely on Manziel is the one in the endzone.

You have already admitted you are Manziel hater. Even if he repeats as the Heisman winner you won't change your mind. Even if A&M wins out and wins a BCS bowl you won't change your mind. Even if A&M won this game, you wouldn't change your mind. So your opinion and objectivity is pretty much worthless.
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Lol....ok... But let's revisit that pick 6...how is that not on him? That ball should've never been thrown and it was badly thrown at that. How can you sit up here and say that was not on him?
 
Mr teX said:
Lol....ok... But let's revisit that pick 6...how is that not on him? That ball should've never been thrown and it was badly thrown at that. How can you sit up here and say that was not on him?
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If I'm Manziel and I'm a betting man (and I'm sure he is) I'm going to go for those and trust the receiver to come down with it. When he throws to Mike Evans I am actually really calm because Evans will just punk the DB and come down with it anyway. I can't speak for certain (I had a great seat but I was screaming so loudly I can't remember the play accurately) but that ball looked like it bounced off the WR's palms and up in the air.
 
htownfan32 said:
If I'm Manziel and I'm a betting man (and I'm sure he is) I'm going to go for those and trust the receiver to come down with it. When he throws to Mike Evans I am actually really calm because Evans will just punk the DB and come down with it anyway. I can't speak for certain (I had a great seat but I was screaming so loudly I can't remember the play accurately) but that ball looked like it bounced off the WR's palms and up in the air.
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I'm not a fan of A&M or Manziel but I think throwing it up to a receiver he trusts and who routinely makes the play is hardly the thing to ding him for. I can't think of a single great QB at any level who doesn't do that if he's got a receiver he trusts to go up and get it.
 
disaacks3 said:
Ah yes, the system argument. The flaw in your plan is that those "system" quarterbacks always received a comeuppance against good competition. Manziel had those numbers against the top ranked team in the country for two consecutive years. You're a hater, we get it. At least try to be an honest hater.

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Yeah, cept Johnny boy gets to play with better talent than those other qbs did.....i also seem to remember case keenum balling out against a # 15 ok state ...and a couple of other ranked teams in his tenure at UH...pat white ballin out against a top 5 OU team in a BCS bowl...graham Harrell ballin out against a # 2 Texas team..what Johnny boy is doing isn't special...

To be honest I should be thanking him..there's been this pervading myth that these kinds of offenses can't work in the SEC.. He and A&M are showing that they can.

In the next few years, you'll start to see more of these spread systems In the SEC and finally everyone will see that the SEC Isn't exempt from what most of these other conferences have been facing. To be honest, I think Oregon will tear Bama a new ******* if they wind up meeting in the NC. This is the beginning of the end for SEC dominance.
 
Hervoyel said:
I'm not a fan of A&M or Manziel but I think throwing it up to a receiver he trusts and who routinely makes the play is hardly the thing to ding him for. I can't think of a single great QB at any level who doesn't do that if he's got a receiver he trusts to go up and get it.
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Yep. And boy I hope Mike Evans doesn't leave with Johnny this year. Mike Evans is going to make Kyle Allen's day next year. He is a playmaking machine. Secure hands and makes the play. Hard to bring down. I can go on and on. The guy is a freak.
 
Hervoyel said:
Aggies were good today. Their defense is slowly morphing into the Houston Cougars D but they got a buttload of offense and while I personally don't care much for Johnny Paycheck he is a hell of a football player.

Aggie fans should be pleased. [bold] I was hoping they'd get the **** beat out of them to maybe shut up some of the "instant" (just add winning!) fans who have popped up in my circle recently but this will do.[/bold]
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This is where I am at. They have been as obnoxious as Cowboy fans. The football program at A&M has not won a conference championship in how many years now? 18? 19? Yet the way these folks talked their poop stinketh not. The sounds of crickets chirping since midway through the 2nd qtr has been peaceful bliss. They have gone radio silent.
 
Pantherstang84 said:
This is where I am at. They have been as obnoxious as Cowboy fans. The football program at A&M has not won a conference championship in how many years now? 18? 19? Yet the way these folks talked their poop stinketh not. The sounds of crickets chirping since midway through the 2nd qtr has been peaceful bliss. They have gone radio silent.
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I'm with ya'll. I went to law school from 93-96 and some of my best friends were Aggies. I had to hear about Aggie recruiting and greatness for 3 years despite them not winning a whole lot of big games and having a handful of bowl wins and a nice stretch in the 80s. They ragged on me non-stop about TCU. For the last 15 years TCU has dominated comparatively to the Ags yet they still tell me that the TCU's Rose Bowl win and two BCS games don't count because of their competition...competition that included beating Big 12 teams and being in BCS games and winning one. Aggie fans are so over the top that they matter and they haven't for 2 decades until now. Despite being an idiot I like a cocky QB and Johnny Football but prefer Aggie fans get no satisfaction. They're a cult.
 
Wisconsin just got screwed. Time expiring, they are on like the 15-20 yard line, down by two. Arizona State defender falls on the ground right where the ball should be spotted, then the ref spots the ball and tells Wisconson they can't snap it, time expires. Then the refs run off the field in fear. That was absolute robbery.
 
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Just stumbled across this article......

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/savannah-state-60-point-underdog-third-time-less-143627016--ncaaf.html

Savannah State is a 60-point underdog for the third time in less than two seasons

If you need an example of a college football team willing to get mauled for a significant payday, look no further than Savannah State.

The Tigers are 60 point underdogs to Miami on Saturday, the third time they've been on the wrong side of a 60 point (or more) point spread since 2012.

Last season, Savannah State opened against Oklahoma State and the line on that game was a whopping 65.5 points before kickoff. Oklahoma State covered easily, 84-0. So the following week, Savannah State was even a bigger underdog against Florida State.

That line opened at 70 points and went down to a meager 65 by kickoff. But Savannah State covered this time, only losing to Florida State 55-0. The line against Miami Saturday opened at 55, but quickly shot up to 60 points.

Will Miami score at least 60 points to cover? They haven't scored over 60 since 2002. Your best play may be with Savannah State.

For both games last season, Savannah State took home $860,000. It'll make $375,000 against Miami. That's over $1 million for three likely blowouts. Given how hard it can be to balance an athletic budget at a school in the FCS, you can't blame Savannah State for taking the large paydays when they present themselves, can you?
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Just for grins I'm taking Miami -60. I'm not really betting due to my horrible luck when money is on the table, but just for grins.
 
Few thoughts on our game vs SMU.

Too many penalties. 13 for 100+ yards is unacceptable.

Defense looks better. They look more fiery, playing with a chip on their shoulder. Starters back and getting their feet wet.

Offense is as good as ever. Mike Evans was less there this game, but I think that's because he's Manziel's emergency go to guy and there were no emergency situations in this game. Malcome Kennedy had a good game, as did Ben Malena. Tra Carson is a wrecking ball of a RB.

Deshazor Everett will be playing on Sundays. He's a good CB.
 
I didn't want to create a whole thread for him, but I'd love to have the receiver Reese from Baylor. His speed is incredible. I just don't want to burn another top 4 round pick on receiver.
 
Texn4life said:
I didn't want to create a whole thread for him, but I'd love to have the receiver Reese from Baylor. His speed is incredible. I just don't want to burn another top 4 round pick on receiver.
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That whole team look's like they could run the 40 in 4.4 seconds.
 
EllisUnit said:
he still has one of the worst throws i have ever seen, he is horrible. The texas running game is the real reason the beat OU today
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I only saw a little bit of the game while I was in the tire shop. That first huge TD & a few plays after.
 
It's comforting that (most of) the college teams we root for around here are doing well. Really takes the sting out of the Texans' performance so far.
 
Knowing I can count on A&M to win this weekend (granted, it's friggin UTEP lol) is a good salve over the pain of watching the Texans lose normally. However, I'm legitimately excited this weekend because I've been converted into the Faith of Keenum :D

Glad our D showed up to play against Vandy. Offense was shooting itself in the foot with all the fumbles. Manziel was solid except for the one interception. Mizzou looks beatable and LSU... well, that game is the wild card.
 
Showtime100 said:
I think I'm going to go catch a little of the Oklahoma at Baylor game. Pretty nice Thursday night matchup!
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Note for me if there's much pressure on the Baylor QB; the guy has looked really good so far, but he barely saw any difficult situation.

If he can handle the pressure, this guy can be a little well-kept secret.

Can you watch the play of the OTs as well, please.
 
76Texan said:
Note for me if there's much pressure on the Baylor QB; the guy has looked really good so far, but he barely saw any difficult situation.

If he can handle the pressure, this guy can be a little well-kept secret.

Can you watch the play of the OTs as well, please.
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I'm watching what I can but can't catch a whole lot of the game as it's turning out. I have the Dallas Stars going on FSSW and now the Rockets. :)

Looks like Bryce Petty is handling the pressure just fine. OU was bringing outside pressure early but Petty began to use his ability to run on them and IMO the momentum he generated led to a 21-point explosion toward the end of the half. Baylor's defense is sick. They played a part in the Baylor uprising with a turnover. I don't know what the stats are but Baylor's D are playing great football tonight.

5-3 OU midway through the 2nd quarter........24-5 at the half.
 
Art Briles, next head coach of the Houston Texans. The man has been successful at every stop, including perennial losing schools Baylor and UH.
 
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