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Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez to be Questioned

Hernandez's fan arrived at the courthouse.

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Probable cause hearing continued until August 22, 2:00PM under defense objection.

Media request for release of more files/information granted.
 
Belichick transcript
"I’m going to address the situation involving Aaron Hernandez today" Belichick said. "I thought that it was important enough to do that prior to the start of camp. It’s a sad day, really a sad day, on so many levels. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family of the victim. I send my sympathy really to everyone who has been impacted. A young man lost his life. His family has suffered a tragic loss, and there’s no way to understate that.

"When I was out of the country, I learned about the ongoing criminal investigation that involved one of our players, and I and other members of the organization were shocked and disappointed at what we had learned. Having someone in your organization that’s involved in a murder investigation is a terrible thing. After consultation with ownership, we acted swiftly and decisively. Robert and his family and I, since I got here in 2000, have always emphasized the need for our team and our players and our organization to represent the community the right way, both on and off the field. We’ve worked very hard together over the past 14 years to put together a winning team that is a pillar in the community, and I agree 100 percent with that, the comments that Robert has already made on the situation. I stand behind those as well.

"This case involves an individual who happened to be a New England Patriot. We certainly do not condone unacceptable behavior, and this does not in any way represent the way that the New England Patriots want to do things. As the coach of the team, I’m primarily responsible for the people that we bring into the football operations. Our players are generally highly motivated and gifted athletes. They come from very different backgrounds. They’ve met many challenges along the way and have done things to get here. Sometimes, they’ve made bad or immature decisions, but we try to look at every single situation on a case-by-case basis and try to do what’s best for the football team and what’s best for the franchise. Most of those decisions have worked out, but some don’t.

"Overall, I’m proud of the hundreds of players that have come through this program, but I’m personally disappointed and hurt in a situation like this. You know, as far as the whole process goes, I can tell you that we look at every player’s history from the moment we start discussing it, going back to his family, where he grew up, what his lifestyle was like, high school, college experiences. We evaluate the performance, intelligence, his work ethic, his motivation, his maturity, his improvement, and we try to project that into our organization on a going-forward basis. It combines a player’s personal history, but it also has to project what we think and how we think he will be in our environment.

"Obviously, this process is far from perfect, but it’s one that we’ve used from 2000 until today. And unfortunately, this most recent situation with the charges that are involved are not a good one on that record. But we’ll continue to evaluate the way we do things and the way we evaluate our players. We do it on a regular basis, not just at the beginning when they come in. We do it on a regular basis. Personally, I’m challenged by the decisions that affect the team on a daily basis, and I’m not perfect on that, either, but I always try to do what I think is best for the football team.

"We spent a considerable amount of time evaluating our current players and educating them on, not only football, but many other life experiences and off-field subjects. We stress high character, and we stress making good decisions. We’ll continue to do this, and we’ll work to do a better job of it as we go forward. We’ll learn from this terrible experience that we’ve had. We’ll become a better team from the lessons that we’ve learned. We have so many players on this team that work hard, that do the right thing, and have set a great example of being a professional and being a solid representative of this team and the community.

"I know that there are a lot of questions, fair questions, about this subject and related subjects. I’m not trying to make the story disappear, but I respect the judicial process and have been advised not to comment on ongoing legal proceedings. I’m advising our players to do the same thing. We’ve got a system in justice that deals with criminal charges, and ultimately the judge and the jury will determine the accountability. My comments are certainly not in proportion to the unfortunate and sad situation that we have here.

"I’ve been advsised to address the subject once, and it’s time for the New England Patriots to move forward. Moving forward consists of what it’s always been here -- to build a winning football team, be a strong pillar in the community and be a team that our fans will be proud of. That’s where we are."
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Feds could get involved in Hernandez case, and death penalty could be in play


Every time it looks like it has gotten as bad as it can ever get for Aaron Hernandez, it finds a way to get a little worse.

With a grand jury in Bristol County, Massachusetts considering whether to indict Hernandez for the June 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd and a grand jury in Suffolk County, Massachusetts reportedly considering whether to indict Hernandez for the July 2012 murder of Safiro Furtado and Daniel Abreu, attorney Jack Furlong explained during Wednesday’s edition of Pro Football Talk on NBCSN that the feds could still get involved in this one - and that Hernandez ultimately could be facing the death penalty.

“If this was a murder of a witness or someone who knew something about the earlier murder, then this case becomes potentially a death penalty case and a federal proceeding,” Furlong explained regarding the killing of Odin Lloyd, who reportedly may have known something about Hernandez’s involvement in the double murder. ”Remember, Massachusetts does not have the death penalty. The United States government does. . . . This case . . . went across state lines repeatedly between Florida, Connecticut and Massachusetts. It could go federal in a heartbeat.”
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HLN is reporting that the evidence just released includes heretofore never seen surveilance photos that show Hernandez returning to his home AFTER the murder with the two other men that show that Hernandez is carrying a .45 caliber gun. (supposedly the copies released to the media are markedly less clear than the tape) Furthermore, they have more damning evidence linking the Lloyd murder to the previous other murders has also for the first time been released. It is said to supply information that Lloyd learned of Hernandez involvement of these other murders and became a definite risk for spilling the beans.

More:

Newly released photos allegedly show Hernandez with gun
 
If the feds get involved and put death penalty on the table does that mean he would serve his time in one of those federal Country Club prisons? Would they send him to guantanamo lol? Is there something in between those two extremes for federal prisoners?

Edit: Answered my own question via google and realized how dumb it was. Federal Penitentiary's are no joke

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Coolhandsluke2 said:
If the feds get involved and put death penalty on the table does that mean he would serve his time in one of those federal Country Club prisons? Would they send him to guantanamo lol? Is there something in between those two extremes for federal prisoners?

Edit: Answered my own question via google and realized how dumb it was. Federal Penitentiary's are no joke

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I've heard there are also federal "Pound You in the A$$" prisons. How do they decide where to send you? :)
 
The prosecutor also revealed today that Hernandez financially supported Wallace before Lloyd’s murder — providing him with food, housing, and a car — and that Hernandez continues to support his friend since both have been arrested.

Wallace defense attorney David Meier declined comment today when asked if Hernandez is paying Wallace’s legal bills.

Wallace...has a criminal history dating back more than 20 years.
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http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...d-cash-bail/zlwPtqQBwBBSPYESU6A1zO/story.html
 
Playoffs said:
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I admit I am no criminal mastermind, or murdering sociopath. But I've seen a lot of movies (I've got Netflix).... but I don't think that's the way you're supposed to hold a gun.


A little off topic......

Hernandez signed the extension in late August 2012 but is now part of an investigation regarding a double homicide which took place in July 2012. If Hernandez is convicted in any way of having involvement in this crime, which took place before the signing of his extension, he could be in violation of the above clause. This could allow the Patriots rights to recoup the entire $12.5 million signing bonus since Hernandez knew of this July 2012 crime and it could prevent him from being “available” for the entire contract. Therefore a forfeitable breach would have occurred upon signing. As of now the Patriots have paid $9.25 million of the signing bonus, with the remaining $3.25 million payment due in March 2014.

Signing bonuses are prorated or spread out evenly over the life of a contract up to a maximum of five years. So Hernandez’s total signing bonus, $12.5 million, counted $2.5 million on the 2012,13,14,15 and 16 salary caps. Under CBA forfeiture rules past season salary or prorated money cannot be forfeited, so even if still under contract the Patriots could not get back the 2012 base or prorated monies without a violation of the above mentioned clause.
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The 2013 and 14 guaranteed base salaries ($2.46 million total) accelerates onto the 2013 cap, $2.55 million in prorated signing bonus and an $82,000 (2013) workout bonus, payable August first according to Corry, gets added up. The Patriots take a dead money salary cap hit for Hernandez of $5.092 million this year and $7.5 million in 2014 (prorated signing bonus $2.5 million 2014,15 and 16 accelerates, gets added, on to the 2014 cap).
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thunderkyss said:
I admit I am no criminal mastermind, or murdering sociopath. But I've seen a lot of movies (I've got Netflix).... but I don't think that's the way you're supposed to hold a gun.
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Unless it has someone else's fingerprints on the grip and you don't want to get your fingerprints on it.
 
Another uncle bites the dust........and then there was none........

Aaron Hernandez's uncle dies in moped crash

A second freak accident has claimed another member of Aaron Hernandez's family.

In the early-morning hours Saturday, Hernandez's uncle, Robert J. Valentine, 49, died in a moped crash in Bristol, according to Bristol police.

Valentine is a brother of Hernandez's mother, Terri.

Police said Valentine, riding a 2012 Sunny moped, struck a curb on the right side of the roadway, was thrown from the moped, landed in a private driveway and struck a curb. He was not wearing a helmet and died at the scene, despite efforts by firefighters. A medical helicopter was dispatched but Valentine died before it could transport him.

In June, another Hernandez uncle, Thaddeus Singleton III, was killed when his car crashed into the Farmington (Conn.) Country Club while traveling 100 mph on a rain-slicked road.


Hernandez, held without bail, has pleaded not guilty to the June 17 murder of Odin Lloyd, Hernandez's friend and a 27-year-old semipro football player.

Police had said they had wanted to question Singleton as part of the murder investigation, but there is no indication Valentine had any connection to the case. Several family members have been drawn into the case, according to prosecutors, although no charges have been filed against them.
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The quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach........the quickest way to a man's secrets is through his girlfriend........

The fiancee of former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez, Jenkins initially was talking to police in the aftermath of Odin Lloyd’s murder - until Hernandez gave her the same advice Archie Bunker routinely provided to Edith.

Now, Jenny Wilson of the Hartford Courant reports that prosecutors believe Jenkins engaged in “overt attempts to hide evidence . . . and to hinder and mislead” the investigation. The contention, which appear in court documents released Friday, was made in connection with a request to search a storage unit rented in her name.

The records allege that Hernandez called Jenkins the day after Lloyd’s body was found because Hernandez wanted to get rid of the weapons in the home he and Jenkins share. The materials also reportedly explain that surveillance footage from Hernandez’s home shows Jenkins leaving the house with a trash bag containing a “rigid object” resembling a lock box or safe. According to the records, authorities contend she then placed the bag in the trunk of a car, drove away, returned 35 minutes later, and opened the trunk - which no longer contained the bag or the “rigid object.” (There’s a chance she’s an amateur magician, and opening the truck was simply the prestige.)

The paperwork likewise refers to “cryptic texts” exchanged by Hernandez and Jenkins regarding a box in the basement.

These allegations seem to mesh with Carlos Ortiz’s alleged explanation that Hernandez placed two guns in a black box after Lloyd was shot.

It all adds up to significant leverage against Jenkins, who may eventually have to choose between facing obstruction of justice charges or cooperating with police regarding anything and everything she knows about Lloyd’s murder.

“It would be premature at this time for us to comment or speculate on whether more charges will be filed in this case,” prosecutors said Friday, via the Courant. “We are letting the evidence guide us before making our decision.”

The evidence seems to be guiding them toward pursuing charges against Jenkins.
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Is there no way to get Jenkins declared his common law wife?

If not, leveraging her against him will show how much of a "man" he really is. C'mon, baby, prison ain't so bad.
 
Playoffs said:
Is there no way to get Jenkins declared his common law wife?

If not, leveraging her against him will show how much of a "man" he really is. C'mon, baby, prison ain't so bad.
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Connecticut does not recognize common law marriage. This is one reason that are keeping Hernandez wrapped up tighter than a drum and severely restricted as far as allowed visitors, so that he cannot become "accidentally" married.
 
Another tidbit, another accomplise:
Also mentioned in the documents is Hernandez's cousin Tanya Cummings-Singleton, who last week was found in contempt of court after she refused to answer the questions of a grand jury convened in the case. Investigators listed her as also involved in the "overt attempts to hide evidence, render assistance for [a] suspect to elude law enforcement, and to hinder and mislead this investigation."
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I'm thinking the Feds might have a RICO case. :kitten:

CloakNNNdagger said:
Connecticut does not recognize common law marriage. This is one reason that are keeping Hernandez wrapped up tighter than a drum and severely restricted as far as allowed visitors, so that he cannot become "accidentally" married.
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Yeah that's right, I forgot about that.
 
Playoffs said:
I'm thinking the Feds might have a RICO case. :kitten:
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I remember reading somewhere that the Feds were looking to get involved since AH & Co. may have crossed state lines during the aftermath and attempts to cover and hide the evidence, and if they do, they death penalty is back on the table.
 
Texans owner Bob McNair explaining some of the things his franchise considers when drafting players to a group of high school football players by saying "We don't like bullies...We don't like domestic violence. We don't like men who beat up women or assault other people that are smaller than they are. Those are 3 things the Texans look at and I'll give you a prime example:

"(Aaron)Hernandez the tight end for New England, all of y'all are familiar with the problems that he got into. We took him off our board. We wouldn't even draft him because he had too many examples of violation of these principles that we're talking about."
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rltq9h
 
2012Champs said:
Paycheck is correct. TV dramas have changed people's perception on what is needed for a conviction.
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I agree.. just remembering a recent conversation we had where a case could have been made on circumstantial evidence & the MBLawyers were saying it couldn't happen.
 
HJam72 said:
It can be frustrating, but I have to respect it.
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Losing brings out frustration and a tendency to scrutinize every aspect of the front office.

Once considered a liability toward winning by fans, McNair's standards are now seen as a beacon of rigtheousness...since the team is winning, of course.
 
2012Champs said:
Paycheck is correct. TV dramas have changed people's perception on what is needed for a conviction.
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For better or worse .... :cool:

FWIW , I believe they convict Hernandez with what circumstantial evidence they have.

I think he's guilty but couldn't convict him with what we have been presented thus far.
 
Corrosion said:
For better or worse .... :cool:

FWIW , I believe they convict Hernandez with what circumstantial evidence they have.

I think he's guilty but couldn't convict him with what we have been presented thus far.
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Well, we've been presented fragments of evidence. Based on what I've seen and read, it's hard for me to come up with a reasonable explanation of what happened where he's not the killer or at the very least one of the conspirators. It'll be interesting to see what his lawyers come up with. Everybody has their own "reasonableness" meter, so a lot will obviously depend on the jury makeup.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Inside the double life of Aaron Hernandez

By Bob Hohler
| Globe Staff
August 15, 2013
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So, Hernandez's mother was a bookie. Nice. And Hernandez's cousin Tanya hid evidence and is now jailed for refusing to testify to the grand jury...

And cousin Tanya's first husband divorced her and married Hernandez's mother, becoming his step father. Mmmkay...

And cousin Tanya's current husband who was wanted for questioning by the police died in a mysterious one car accident 4 days after the Odin Lloyd murder. Got it...

And cousin Tanya bought Uncle Earnest Wallace his bus ticket out of town after the Lloyd murder. And it was Uncle Earnest who earlier dumped a handgun and fled police in a bar altercation Hernandez had with a Jets fan. Of course.

And Hernandez's baby momma Shayanna disposed of the gun he used to kill Lloyd, who was Shayanna's sister's Sheneah's boyfriend. Natch.

And... gotta stop here as my head is spinning. :spin:

Sounds like your typical American family to me -- innocent!:koolaid:
 
Playoffs said:
So, Hernandez's mother was a bookie. Nice. And Hernandez's cousin Tanya hid evidence and is now jailed for refusing to testify to the grand jury...

And cousin Tanya's first husband divorced her and married Hernandez's mother, becoming his step father. Mmmkay...

And cousin Tanya's current husband who was wanted for questioning by the police died in a mysterious one car accident 4 days after the Odin Lloyd murder. Got it...

And cousin Tanya bought Uncle Earnest Wallace his bus ticket out of town after the Lloyd murder. And it was Uncle Earnest who earlier dumped a handgun and fled police in a bar altercation Hernandez had with a Jets fan. Of course.

And Hernandez's baby momma Shayanna disposed of the gun he used to kill Lloyd, who was Shayanna's sister's Sheneah's boyfriend. Natch.

And... gotta stop here as my head is spinning. :spin:

Sounds like your typical American family to me -- innocent!:koolaid:
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MSR! Your summary sounds made up and hilarious.........but it is accurate and, unfortunately very tragic. And indeed, there is more in this long article........much more. For anyone interested in the Hernandez situation, it is more than worthwhile to take the time to read this article.
 
More search warrant discovery:

Search warrant affidavits obtained by CNN contain new details about fiancée Shayanna Jenkins. In them, authorities alleged that Hernandez, Jenkins, his cousin Tanya Singleton and Ernest Wallace "have all made overt attempts to hide evidence, render assistance for suspect to elude law enforcement, and to hinder and mislead this investigation."

Shayanna Jenkins has not been charged in connection with the investigation, and lawyers representing her fiancé, Hernandez, have not responded to requests for comment.

Wallace has been charged with accessory after the fact to murder.

The documents indicate investigators became suspicious of Shayanna Jenkins after they spoke with her sister Shaneah Jenkins.

Shaneah Jenkins was Lloyd's girlfriend.

The court papers describe the following allegations:

The day after Lloyd's body was found, Shaneah Jenkins told authorities she was with her sister, Shayanna, and two uncles at Hernandez's home.

During that time, Shaneah Jenkins said she saw her sister go into the basement with an empty trash bag. Shayanna asked Shaneah to borrow her car and had a cell phone "communication" with Hernandez.

The women's uncle told Shayanna that "Mr. Hernandez wanted weapons taken out of the house" and told Shaneah that weapons "were discarded into 'the woods.'"

The documents go on to describe a mysterious, if not cryptic, text message obtained by investigators from Hernandez to his fiancée that allegedly read: "Go back in back of the screen in movie room when u (sic) get home an (sic) there is a box...jus (sic) in case u (sic) were looking for it!!! Member (sic) how you ruined the big tv Imao WAS JUST THINKIN bout that lol wink wink love u TTYL....K"

"TTYL" is common shorthand for "talk to you later."

According to the court papers, Jenkins allegedly answers: "ok-that was awful...Perfect tv...Love u."

About an hour later, a home surveillance video shows Jenkins leaving the house carrying something "rigid" and "consistent to a lock box or safe" placed inside a garbage bag and covered with clothing, according to the documents.

Police state Jenkins drove away and returned an hour later, but she was not carrying the "rigid" item back into the house.

Prosecutors have said no lock box was found in the home.

A search of a rented storage unit in Bristol, Connecticut, allegedly paid for by Hernandez, did not locate the weapon used to kill Lloyd, according to law enforcement officials.

Singleton, Hernandez' cousin, remained jailed on a contempt of court charge for failing to cooperate with a grand jury, according to two law enforcement sources.

Grand jury indictments are expected in the case as early as next week, officials have said.
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ThaJokaa said:
Man that dude is guilty
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Hernandez could have seen a poisonous snake out there while he was peeing and while shooting at it in a courageous attempt to protect his friends from the danger the bullets ricocheted off construction equipment and hit poor Odin Lloyd... 5 times... in the head and heart. :koolaid:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
It has just been reported that the gun used in the first murder has been uncovered and it has been linked to Hernandez.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/08/19/gun-used-in-boston-double-murder-linked-to-hernandez-found-in-springfield/

Gun Used In Boston Double Murder Linked To Hernandez Found
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Another upstanding citizen-friend of Aaron Hernandez... who happens to be friends with Hernandez's brother:

http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/08/jailene-diaz-ramos-aaron-hernandez-murder/

annnd has a criminal record & a dope head & etc.
 
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