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Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez to be Questioned

Miami's Mike Pouncey served grand jury subpoena in Massachusetts

The Massachusetts State Police served Miami Dolphins center Mike Pouncey with a grand jury subpoena less than an hour after the Patriots defeated the Dolphins 27-17 at Gillette Stadium on Sunday afternoon.

A source with knowledge of the matter told SI.com that the subpoena is related to the investigation into Aaron Hernandez, Pouncey's close friend and former teammate at the University of Florida. The source indicated that police are focusing in on Hernandez's potential involvement in interstate gun trafficking, which is being investigated by several agencies in multiple states -- at least Massachusetts, New York and Florida.

The extent of Pouncey's potential involvement is undetermined, but police are focusing on multiple transactions that involve him and Hernandez. "Organizationally, we do not have a comment," said Dolphins spokesman Harvey Greene. "And Mike Pouncey does not have a comment."
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Aaron Hernandez takes Fifth Amendment in civil suit

The lawsuit, filed in June, alleges that Hernandez shot his friend Alexander Bradley, 31, after the two socialized at a Miami strip club in February.

“Defendant asserts his rights under the Fifth Amendment and, therefore, declines to respond to the allegations,” the filing states 13 times in response to specific allegations contained in Bradley’s civil complaint.

According to a Florida police report, employees of a John tractor store discovered Bradley on Feb. 13 on the ground in the fetal position, bleeding from the head with his eyes swollen shut.

Questioned immediately after the shooting, Bradley told police he did not know who had shot him and refused to help them find his attacker, prompting them to close the investigation.

Four months later, Bradley named Hernandez as the shooter in the lawsuit, which states that he and Hernandez visited Tootsie’s Caberet and got into an argument while inside. While driving later toward Palm Beach, Hernandez pointed a gun at Bradley and fired — either intentionally or through extreme negligence, the lawsuit alleges. Bradley lost his right eye from the gunshot and underwent multiple surgeries...
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Coolhandsluke2 said:
Prosecution: Girlfriend of Aaron Hernandez lied 29 times

"NORTH ATTLEBORO — Prosecutors allege the girlfriend of Aaron Hernandez lied to the grand jury investigating the murder of her sister’s boyfriend 29 times."

http://www.thesunchronicle.com/news...cle_baa54976-5c5d-11e3-89e3-001a4bcf887a.html
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Her lawyer, Janice Bassil of Boston, has said the indictment against her client was “overreaching.”

She said Jenkins was charged with perjury because prosecutors don’t believe her, not because she lied.
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29 overreaches... that's a nice game. :bravo:
 
Wrongful death lawsuit filed against Aaron Hernandez
Odin Lloyd's family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez, who is charged with Lloyd's murder, according to documents filed this week in Bristol County Superior Court.

Lloyd's estate is also asking a judge for a restraining order that would prohibit the New England Patriots from paying out more than three million dollars that Hernandez, 24, is believed to be owed from his contract.

In addition, the Lloyd family is requesting a restraining order for a real estate attachment up to $5 million that would prevent Hernandez from placing his spacious North Attleboro home beyond the court's reach for purposes of awarding damages...
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Playoffs said:
Wrongful death lawsuit filed against Aaron Hernandez
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As they should irrespective whether or not Hernandez may or may not be found guily OR be acquitted. Orenthal James was acquitted but the Brown and Goldman families won in civil court on a "wrongful death" suit against Orenthal... Granted, they'll never see the judgement dollar wise but they still won.

In my opinion, the Odin Lloyd family has every right to move forward with this suit.
 
Police believe Hernandez drove vehicle on night of 2012 killings
While the documents make it clear that it is unknown who pulled the trigger, investigators allege that video evidence show a vehicle -- allegedly driven by Hernandez -- circling the block, waiting for the victims to exit the club and to get to their car, seemingly stalking them before the shooting.

Police say video shows Hernandez arriving at 12:04 a.m. early that morning, driving a 2006 Toyota 4Runner, and additional video then shows him entering Cure nightclub immediately behind the victims, according to the affidavit.

The document provides a narrative, based on video evidence, that details Hernandez’s alleged movements on the night of the double shooting.

Hernandez and an accomplice - who investigators later identified as Alexander Bradley - were recorded on tape during their time in the club. He spent just 10 minutes inside, downing two drinks, before exiting, the documents state.

The victims did not exit the club until after 2 a.m., and at 2:32 a.m Boston police responded to a report of six shots fired.

Witnesses told police that an SUV resembling the one driven that night by Hernandez pulled up next to the vehicle driven by the victims and one of the occupants opened fire.
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But, just days after Hernandez was formally implicated in the Lloyd murder investigation, a tipster called police to tell them that he believed Lloyd’s killing was tied to the South End shootings.

The tipster, who was later identified as a security supervisor at Rumor Nightclub -- where Lloyd and Hernandez had partied two nights before Lloyd’s killing -- said that the Lloyd killing was linked to the South End killing. Asked how he knew that, he told police: “someone accidentally spilled the beans in front of me.”

Investigators have filed a search warrant to obtain jailhouse phone calls made by Bradley, who has been imprisoned after he skipped out on a grand jury subpoena, in which he allegedly discusses the details of the double murder.
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Hernandez prosecutors will not ask Carlos Ortiz to testify

Prosecutors will not call Carlos Ortiz to testify against Aaron Hernandez at trial because they believe Ortiz is "completely unreliable," according to new documents filed Friday in superior court.

Ortiz, 27, also made a "proffer" — an offer made prior to the start of formal negotiations — during a meeting with prosecutors, according to a Dec. 16 letter that Hernandez's lawyers sent to First Assistant District Attorney William McCauley, one of the lead prosecutors in the Hernandez murder case.

For months, Ortiz, a codefendant charged with accessory to murder after the fact, was thought to be a key prosecution witness against Hernandez, 24, the former Patriots star tight end who is charged with the June 17, 2013, murder of Odin Lloyd in the North Attleborough Industrial Park.

When he was first arrested last summer in his hometown of Bristol, Conn., Ortiz told police that Hernandez and Ernest Wallace, 44, were outside their vehicle in the industrial park when Lloyd was shot five times with a .45-caliber handgun. Ortiz said he was sleeping, heard a gunshot and then saw Wallace and Hernandez return to the vehicle.

Ortiz also recounted conversations between Hernandez and Lloyd in the vehicle, told police that he saw Hernandez carrying a handgun and made apparent references to Hernandez's alleged "flophouse" in Franklin, which "other football players used" and where investigators said they found evidence, including clothing and ammunition, according to court documents.

Those police reports fueled speculation that Ortiz would be the prosecution's star witness. But in recent months, it came to light that Ortiz had changed his story to say Hernandez was alone with Lloyd outside the vehicle...
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Can they still secure a conviction...?
 
Man Who Sued Aaron Hernandez Shot At Hartford Club

"HARTFORD — A man who accused former New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez of shooting him in the eye last February was shot again Sunday outside a Hartford bar, and now is in custody after, police say, he retrieved a gun from his car and fired at the front of the bar in retaliation.

Alexander Bradley, 31, an East Hartford native who formerly was a close friend of Hernandez, was shot three times in the leg by an unknown gunman outside Vevo Lounge in Hartford's South End."

Full article

http://www.courant.com/community/ha...exander-bradley-0204-20140203,0,5786193.story



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I wonder what actual evidence they will have to prosecute this tool with, seems their case is falling apart at the seams.

Did they ever find the weapon ?

Everything they have other than that seems circumstantial or ... hearsay.


Dude's goin for a ride , but he may beat the rap.
 
Corrosion said:
I wonder what actual evidence they will have to prosecute this tool with, seems their case is falling apart at the seams.

Did they ever find the weapon ?

Everything they have other than that seems circumstantial or ... hearsay.

Dude's goin for a ride , but he may beat the rap.
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Hmmm . . Listening to NFL Network today. The prosecution is panicking. The star witness is completely unreliable, and will not testify. They are still searching for the weapon, and if they haven't found it by now, they never will.

Dude's gonna walk.
 
He will definitely get multiple obstruction of justice charges against him for the max. That will be the least he can walk away with.
 
Dutchrudder said:
He will definitely get multiple obstruction of justice charges against him for the max. That will be the least he can walk away with.
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Plus they'll leverage charges against his baby-mama, co-conspirator against him. Prison for her, or make a deal. If he says "no" she'll roll.
 
Playoffs said:
Plus they'll leverage charges against his baby-mama, co-conspirator against him. Prison for her, or make a deal. If he says "no" she'll roll.
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I don't know that she'll do that , she could end up swimming with the fishes before it came to that. She may well take the fall ...
 
Dutchrudder said:
How can you convict a guy of gun charges if they couldn't find the gun?
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Doesn't have to be the murder weapon. They have video and found him with unregistered firearms and ammo in violation of state law. He could make a constitutional challenge to the laws but facially he broke them.
 
infantrycak said:
Doesn't have to be the murder weapon. They have video and found him with unregistered firearms and ammo in violation of state law. He could make a constitutional challenge to the laws but facially he broke them.
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Two questions:

1 - Do you think they have enough to convict him on the murder charge , it really seems to me to all be , bits & pieces , circumstantial or unreliable.


2 - What's the worst case scenario on the gun charges ?
 
Corrosion said:
Two questions:

1 - Do you think they have enough to convict him on the murder charge , it really seems to me to all be , bits & pieces , circumstantial or unreliable.


2 - What's the worst case scenario on the gun charges ?
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on 2, it seems like 2.5 to 5 years in prison with some caveats according to THIS
 
Aaron Hernandez ATTACKED another inmate at Bristol County Jail earlier today ... and we're told he beat the guy up pretty good ...

Sources tell us the former New England Patriots tight end -- who is usually segregated from the general population -- was allowed to take a walk in an isolated hallway ... but somehow came into contact with another inmate.

We're told Hernandez recognized the other inmate and launched into an attack -- beating the other man up pretty badly.
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Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/25/aaron-hernandez-jail-fight-attacks-inmate/
 
The attorney for Carlos Ortiz, an associate of Aaron Hernandez who was charged in the murder of Odin Lloyd, said his client is unlikely to testify against the former NFL star. Ortiz was expected to be the prosecution's star witness; with Ortiz unlikely to take the stand against his friend, the Commonwealth's case against Hernandez may have weakened.

Court documents released over the summer indicate Ortiz was, at least at one point, cooperating with law enforcement. His cooperation led to the speculation that Ortiz would be the prosecution's star witness in the Commonwealth's case against Hernandez.
Ortiz's attorney, John J. Connors Jr., dismissed that notion on Wednesday after his client's court hearing was rescheduled.

"I don't believe he's going to be a witness, to tell you the truth," Connors told reporters, via the Boston Herald. "If people are going on the assumption that because the court dates were moved around we're cooperating, or we're doing stuff because he's cooperating, that's not the case."

The hearing was rescheduled to Jan. 9 to provide Connors sufficient time to examine the Commonwealth's evidence against Ortiz, who pleaded not guilty last month to the charge of being an accessory to murder after the fact.

It's uncertain if the prosecution ever intended to call Ortiz to the stand as a witness. Court documents, according to the Boston Globe and Hartford Courant, show Ortiz told investigators Hernandez left the vehicle with Lloyd on the night of the murder and that Hernandez later hid the firearm in a box in the basement.

If the prosecution did plan to call Ortiz to the stand his credibility would be questioned by the defense; Ortiz has already changed his story at least once about the events leading up to Lloyd's death.
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More than one way to skin a cat...

Two associates of Aaron Hernandez are indicted on murder charges

Carlos Ortiz, 27, and Ernest Wallace, 41, were charged months ago as accessories after the fact in the slaying of Odin L. Lloyd, whose bullet-riddled body was found in an industrial yard near Hernandez’s North Attleborough home last June.

But on Friday, Bristol District Attorney C. Samuel Sutter’s office announced that a grand jury had handed up murder indictments against Ortiz and Wallace, both of Bristol, Conn. No explanation was given for the indictments, and Sutter’s spokesman declined further comment.
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Rosanna Cavallaro, a criminal law professor at Suffolk University and former assistant attorney general, said Friday that the new indictments do not necessarily mean plea deals are out of the question.

“Now that you’ve actually been indicted [for murder], that probably has a stronger coercive effect than the possibility [of a murder charge] looming, and not yet real,” said Cavallaro, who also practiced in the law office of renowned defense attorney Alan M. Dershowitz.

But Gerard T. Leone Jr., a former Middlesex district attorney now working in private practice at Nixon Peabody, said either man’s credibility could be questioned if they testified against Hernandez only after being indicted for murder.

He also said charging Ortiz and Wallace with the killing could make it easier to convince a jury to convict Hernandez for murder as a joint venturer.

“It’s a much more difficult case to have Hernandez as the sole person charged with murder,” he said. “You have no joint venture theory against people who are charged with different charges and not the murder. ... You can try to proceed if that’s your theory, but if you think about doubt and reasonable doubt, the optics alone are difficult.”

Cavallaro echoed those comments, saying that if only Hernandez was charged with murder, jurors “might be puzzled as to why he’s the one holding the bag, if all three of them were together.”
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They are going after Hernandez with whatever it takes.

Man arrested in connection with Aaron Hernandez case

By Travis Andersen | Globe Staff April 17, 2014

The arrest of Oscar Hernandez Jr. was part of a probe of gun trafficking between Florida and Massachusetts.

A Florida man has been indicted on charges of lying to a federal grand jury in Boston that was investigating alleged interstate gun trafficking in a case linked to Aaron Hernandez, the former New England Patriot charged with murdering a Dorchester man.

Oscar “Papoo” Hernandez Jr., 23, of Orlando, is charged with lying to the grand jury in December, according to an indictment unsealed Thursday in US District Court in Boston. The panel was investigating the “transportation of firearms” from Florida to Massachusetts.

The grand jury probe was prompted, in part, by a federal review of three firearms that Massachusetts State Police recovered during an investigation into “a June 17, 2013 homicide in North Attleboro,” the indictment said. The only homicide in North Attleborough that day was the early morning shooting of Odin L. Lloyd, 27. His body was found in an industrial yard near Aaron Hernandez’s home.

Aaron Hernandez, 24, has pleaded not guilty to murder and weapons charges in connection with Lloyd’s death and is being held without bail.

On Thursday, a federal judge in Florida ordered Oscar Hernandez detained until his transfer to Massachusetts to face the indictment. A lawyer who represented him did not respond to inquiries seeking comment.

The indictment accuses Oscar Hernandez of lying to the Boston grand jury on Dec. 4, when he testified that he did not purchase a Toyota Camry last April in Florida or have it shipped to Massachusetts.

State Police investigators in Massachusetts executed a search warrant on the Camry on June 22 at the North Attleborough residence of a man identified only as John Doe #3, and they recovered a rifle from the vehicle, according to the indictment. A law enforcement official briefed on the investigation said that John Doe #3 is Aaron Hernandez.
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Aaron Hernandez indicted for 2012 double-murder drive-by
Former New England Patriots star Aaron Hernandez was indicted today on two counts of first-degree murder for the killings of two men in Boston’s South End in 2012 who were shot to death after allegedly encountering Hernandez in a nightclub, two officials briefed on the case said.

Hernandez is accused of murdering Daniel Abreu and Safiro Furtado. The two men were shot to death on July 16, 2012, while stopped at a traffic light by someone who drove up alongside them in an SUV with Rhode Island plates and opened fire.

Hernandez already faced charges in the murder of Odin L. Lloyd of Boston, who was found slain in a North Attleborough industrial park near Hernandez’s home in June 2013.

The new charges raise the disturbing possibility that Hernandez played games during the 2012-2013 season after murdering two men...
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...hernandez-indicted-for-double-murder-drive-by
According to relatives of the two men killed in the shooting, Daniel Abreu and Safiro Furtado, neither knew Hernandez. Both worked for a cleaning company and didn't have criminal records. The shooting took place at a red light, shortly after the men had left the Cure Lounge in Boston's Theater District.

"They just came up and started firing for no reason at all," the alleged eyewitness told Fox 25 last fall. "We never had any trouble. We were not those kind of people. We were just having fun. … Things happened so fast. I was trying to defend myself. They were shooting everywhere inside the car, front to back. They just came to kill. That's it."
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Aaron Hernandez's behavior more 'gangster' than serial killer
Aaron Hernandez [is] a man who police say killed three people, and tried to kill more.

But this doesn't necessarily mean Hernandez is a serial killer, said Helen Morrison, a forensic psychiatrist who has done extensive research on some of America's most notorious killers.

"A serial killer is a person with a very severe lack of personality structure. He's not a person," Morrison told USA TODAY Sports prior to two new murder indictments that were made public Thursday. "The serial killer just almost has a sense of continuing to kill as an act. It doesn't have any motive. It doesn't have emotion attached to it. It doesn't fit in the context or anger or revenge or the things that we think people commit homicides for."
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"What we see in this guy, Hernandez, is motive. Anger and rage are motive. Whether he thinks he's being wronged or taken advantage, he's just going to kill people," Morrison said. "He just seems to be a guy with a tremendous amount of rage. He doesn't seem to be psychotic or mentally ill, like a lot of the mass shooters are, just sort of does what he wants to do. "
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"[Serial killers] have no attachment to human beings," Morrison said. "This guy seems to have had a posse, obviously they admire him, would go along with almost anything he said. The celebrity groupie person will forgive anything, as long as they were with this guy."
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Dr. Carl Taylor, a sociology professor at Michigan State who has studied gang culture for more than 30 years, said Hernandez... brought to mind old-school mobsters, an organized crime boss rather than petty criminal, "This is not simply about gang signs. This is being a gangster at a high level," Taylor said prior to the two new indictments. "He doesn't seem to be shaken."
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If she had the chance to study or interview him, Morrison said she would focus on Hernandez's childhood and family history.

"A whole bunch of things to find out how, up until age 18, how did this kid function?" Morrison said. "Because you can't build a building without a foundation, and nobody just wakes up one day and becomes a murderer, or becomes narcissistic personality disorder. That is definitely developmental."
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Playoffs said:
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Thanks for sharing. Interesting.

From everything I've read, Hernandez was very close to his dad, and was a totally normal kid. Then, his dad died unexpectedly during a routine medical procedure, and Hernandez apparently never recovered from that.

I'm not a shrink, but, maybe he felt abanonded and that led to severe rage/anger issues. Teen boys need their dads.

(Not that any of this is an excuse for murder).
 
houstonspartan said:
Thanks for sharing. Interesting.

From everything I've read, Hernandez was very close to his dad, and was a totally normal kid. Then, his dad died unexpectedly during a routine medical procedure, and Hernandez apparently never recovered from that.

I'm not a shrink, but, maybe he felt abanonded and that led to severe rage/anger issues. Teen boys need their dads.

(Not that any of this is an excuse for murder).
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I'm glad you qualified your comments. These events are NO excuse for murder. I've known many patients and acquaintances that were beaten savagely by their parents..........but later grew up with no violent tendencies.......in fact, with greater appreciation for compasionate social interaction. Hernandez is at very least a sociopath, if not a total psychopath.......and as such has innate character that has never had nor ever will have the ability to live among fellow human beings.
 
Hernandez could have enough money to call for more witness "hits" from the License Plate Factory.

Hernandez contractual clause may not help Patriots get money backPosted by Mike Florio on May 16, 2014, 12:31 PM EDT
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With Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez facing double murder charges from an incident occurring before he signed a long-term deal that paid a $12.5 million signing bonus, the team surely will do whatever it can to try to recover as much of the money as possible.

As explained Thursday, their decision to cut him makes that effort much more difficult. The Patriots should have retained his rights (like the Falcons did from 2007 through 2009 with Mike Vick), which would have allowed them to recover up to $10 million in signing bonus money, if Hernandez ultimately was unable to play from 2013 through 2016 due to incarceration.

CBS Boston has offered up a different take, based on a January 2013 report from former agent Joel Corry. Said Corry at the time: “Hernandez’s contract contains a clause where he represents and warrants that there weren’t any existing circumstances when he signed his deal that would prevent his continued availability throughout the contract. Committing or participating in a double murder should meet this standard. There’s another clause explicitly stating that the Patriots wouldn’t have entered into the contract except for Hernandez’s representations.”

The language cited by Corry doesn’t appear in the Standard Player Contract, which means that (if the report is accurate), the Patriots and Hernandez separately agreed to that language. Even so, the presence of the language doesn’t mean that the Patriots will be able to recover bonus money in a way that conflicts with the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Paragraph 21 of the Standard Player Contract states that, if the player’s contract conflicts with the CBA, the CBA prevails. And the CBA sets forth the exclusive procedure for obtaining a forfeiture of money paid to the player.

At Article 4, Section 9, the CBA spells out the circumstances that allow money to be recovered. A “forfeitable breach” happens when a player under contract, for one of several reasons (including being in jail), fails to show up for work. If the Patriots hadn’t cut Hernandez, and if he had been unable to show up for work from 2013 through 2016, they could have recovered up to $10 million of his $12.5 million signing bonus.

But they cut him. By cutting him, they lost the ability to recover any of his signing bonus based on his failure to show up for work in any of the five years of the contract that the bonus covered, at $2.5 million per year.

The language Corry mentions, if it’s indeed in the contract, shouldn’t matter. The CBA takes precedence.

And if the Patriots push the issue of the contractual language too aggressively, they’ll at some point invite more pointed questions from the media and fans about why they gave Hernandez a $12.5 million signing bonus without knowing everything there was to know about whether Hernandez had done or would do something that would keep him from working by virtue of his employment in a state-run license-plate factory.
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Aaron Hernandez's Tattoos May Contain Clues To Murders
Authorities investigating Aaron Hernandez for the 2012 double-murder on which he was indicted last week have put out a public call for help: They're looking to speak with tattoo artists who did work on Hernandez's right forearm, reportedly under the belief that Hernandez may have gotten some ink to commemorate his role in the shooting...
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Bart Hubbuch ‏@HubbuchNYP
Authorities think the "Shot 2 Guys In Boston on 7/16/12" tattoo on Aaron Hernandez's arm might be a clue.
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Prosecution: Aaron Hernandez Killed Two Men Over A Spilled Drink
According to the D.A., Abreu accidentally bumped into Hernandez, spilling a drink, and did not apologize. This infuriated Hernandez, who according to the prosecution felt he had been increasingly disrespected at clubs. Surveillance video captured Hernandez angrily pacing outside the club before the victims left.

The victims had no idea Hernandez was angry at them, let alone that he was following them when they left the club. According to the prosecution, Hernandez pulled up alongside their car at a stop light, said "Yo, what's up now, [racial slur]?" and fired at least five shots...
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houstonspartan said:
Thanks for sharing. Interesting.

From everything I've read, Hernandez was very close to his dad, and was a totally normal kid. Then, his dad died unexpectedly during a routine medical procedure, and Hernandez apparently never recovered from that.

I'm not a shrink, but, maybe he felt abanonded and that led to severe rage/anger issues. Teen boys need their dads.

(Not that any of this is an excuse for murder).
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My father before suicide in 2005, locked me and my mother in a room put chains on the door poured gas in the house and lit it on fire my grandmother drove into the front of the house and saved us. He also shot at us, beat us then eventually committed suicide in 2005. He was only this way while he was drinking which he did alot when he wasnt drinking he was the best father a boy could ask for, this is why i rarely drink.

Point is that everyone has a sad story blah blah blah but nothing gives anyone the right to take someone elses life, nothing.
 
EllisUnit said:
My father before suicide in 2005, locked me and my mother in a room put chains on the door poured gas in the house and lit it on fire my grandmother drove into the front of the house and saved us. He also shot at us, beat us then eventually committed suicide in 2005. He was only this way while he was drinking which he did alot when he wasnt drinking he was the best father a boy could ask for, this is why i rarely drink.

Point is that everyone has a sad story blah blah blah but nothing gives anyone the right to take someone elses life, nothing.
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Not everybody carries those types of visions of their childhood... has experienced those terrors at the hand of a parent. It was wrong you had to go through that. I'm sorry for your father's loss, as well.


Hernandez chose his lifestyle, and became increasingly irrationally, murderously paranoid. He'll get his.
 
EllisUnit said:
My father before suicide in 2005, locked me and my mother in a room put chains on the door poured gas in the house and lit it on fire my grandmother drove into the front of the house and saved us. He also shot at us, beat us then eventually committed suicide in 2005. He was only this way while he was drinking which he did alot when he wasnt drinking he was the best father a boy could ask for, this is why i rarely drink.

Point is that everyone has a sad story blah blah blah but nothing gives anyone the right to take someone elses life, nothing.
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I have heard so many stories like yours......but each one always unique in their own way. Thanks for sharing your personal story. There is no doubt that it took a great deal of effort to emerge as the responsible father and husband you have obviously become. I can hardly imagine how such a childhood history would have ultimately affected me as I went through life, although I would have never allowed myself to turn to murder under any circumstances. Again thanks for sharing.
 
Playoffs said:
Breaking my heart... :violin

Aaron Hernandez apparently having trouble paying his mounting legal bills
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I would guess that, after all the new information that has come out, his attorneys no longer believe his case still has a chance for an OJ ending, with all the ultimate positive legal publicity they could gain, and no longer want to shove a fortune up a goat's ass.............i.e., Hernandez's ass. Besides, being in prison for so long, it should already be fully-occupied by other things.
 
Lets start up a free Hernandez foundation.... :kitten:

Before you all start bashing me that was a JOKE hence the cute little kitten ;)
 
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