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Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez to be Questioned

Double Barrel said:
Sadly, even James Holmes - the Aurora movie shooter - has idiot female fans.

They have serious mental problems:

"At worst, those who are attracted to him are suffering from a form of sexual dysfunction called hybristophilia -- a twisted, perverse attraction to vicious killers."

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I think state funded mandatory lobotomies are in order for these she-dolts.
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Yeah it is pretty sick, when i worked at the ellis unit the following some of them death row guys had was quite disturbing. A lot of girls love the bad boy, and they wonder why they can never find a good man haha
 
People keep dying/getting serously injured around this...

Aaron Hernandez Investigators Were Prepared To Interview Man Killed In Crash

Multiple law enforcement sources said Thaddeus Singleton III, 33, was associated with Hernandez and of interest to investigators. Singleton was killed when the car he was driving flew off the road, split a pole in half and careened into Farmington Country Club. Police said the car was registered to Aaron Hernandez's uncle, who is Singleton's father-in-law.

His death was ruled an accident, and it is unclear whether he knew of investigators' interest in his connection to the former New England Patriot star tight end, a Bristol native.
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Playoffs said:
People keep dying/getting serously injured around this...

Aaron Hernandez Investigators Were Prepared To Interview Man Killed In Crash
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SAD!!! SAD!!!!! SOOOO SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a waste of humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm almost sorry that I started this thread.

Negative rep. to me!
 
A Wall Street Journal‘s report says that a scouting service that prepares psychological profiles of players for NFL teams warned all 18 of its clients that Hernandez was “living on the edge of acceptable behavior” and cautioned that he could become “a problem” for his team.

The Colts were in dire need of a TE..........but Polian says that he like Mike Brown stayed far far away.

On one personality test, Hernandez, who was arrested last week on murder and weapons charges, received the lowest possible score, 1 out of 10, in the category of "social maturity."

The evaluation, which was done before the New England Patriots selected Hernandez in the fourth round of the 2010 draft, was produced by a North Carolina scouting service called Human Resource Tactics.

The one-page form, reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, includes scores Hernandez received on several tests routinely administered to NFL draft prospects. The results of these tests are kept confidential.

The Patriots declined to comment on whether they had seen the report before drafting Hernandez. Hernandez's attorney, Michael Fee, didn't return messages seeking comment.

The evaluation done on Hernandez was devised by Dr. Mike Sanders, a partner at HRT and an adjunct professor in the psychology department at North Carolina State University. According to his personal website, Sanders has provided consultative support to elite military units belonging to the U.S. Army and Marine Corps. Sanders declined to comment on the Hernandez report. He said 18 teams subscribe to HRT's scouting service but declined to say if the Patriots are one of them.

While psychological profiles can be subjective and far from foolproof, NFL experts say the majority of teams use them to guide their draft choices.

When it comes to Hernandez's acumen for football, the report didn't mince words: It considered him a remarkably qualified candidate, giving him an overall "motivational and mental" test score of 10 out of 10.

In the section of the report labeled "Sigma Motivation" in which Hernandez got a 1 out of 10 in "Social Maturity," he received a perfect 10 for "Focus," two nines in "Self-Efficacy" and "Receptivity to Coaching" and 7 out of 10 for "Dedication." In a section labeled "Mental Ability," Hernandez was given a perfect 10 in "Mental Quickness."

Under "Strengths," the report listed Hernandez's dedication, work ethic and self-confidence. It predicted he would quickly recover from mistakes and bad breaks. "Hernandez sees himself as a football player above all else," the report said. "He will place a high priority on football and what it takes to be successful." Hernandez was also described as being highly responsive to coaching.

In the section marked "Weaknesses," the report predicted Hernandez might get along well with most of his teammates, but "will find very little time to help them." His responses, it added, "suggest he enjoys living on the edge of acceptable behavior and that he may be prone to partying too much and doing questionable things that could be seen as a problem for him and his team."

The psychological portion of HRT's testing appears to be based on personality tests developed by Sigma Assessment Systems, a Michigan company. A spokeswoman said Sigma had no specific tests that measure the characteristics HRT lists on its report, but that some of its assessment techniques could be used to derive such scores. "I have no way of knowing whether that's a solid approach," the spokeswoman said.

The report said Hernandez scored 17 on a test devised by Wonderlic, an Illinois assessment firm, that measures how well people comprehend problems and how quickly they can solve them. That score was below average but "above the typical minimum for his position," the report said.

Bill Polian, former general manager of the Indianapolis Colts, said his team was looking for a tight end at the 2010 draft, but steered clear of Hernandez. "There were questions there, which is why a guy of that talent lasted until the fourth round," he said. The Colts, he added, "never got that far" in their evaluation of the player. "We were not in the Hernandez business." The Colts couldn't immediately be reached for comment. Sanders declined to say whether the Colts were an HRT client.
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Double Barrel said:
Sadly, even James Holmes - the Aurora movie shooter - has idiot female fans.

They have serious mental problems:

"At worst, those who are attracted to him are suffering from a form of sexual dysfunction called hybristophilia -- a twisted, perverse attraction to vicious killers."

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I think state funded mandatory lobotomies are in order for these she-dolts.
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I think there are those that have hybristophilia, I also believe most of these imbeciles are leaches that will cling to any piece if schit that can bring them attention or notariety (sic) no matter what the cost.
 
chicagotexan2 said:
I think there are those that have hybristophilia, I also believe most of these imbeciles are leaches that will cling to any piece if schit that can bring them attention or notariety (sic) no matter what the cost.
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A) "hybristophilia" - you're cut-off using big words

B) Using "(sic)", YOU ARE DEFINITELY CUT-OFF!!!
 
Aaron Hernandez’s fiancée wouldn’t be able to testify against him if the two of them marry before he goes to trial. But the sheriff who oversees the jail holding Hernandez doesn’t want that to happen.

Bristol County Sheriff Thomas M. Hodgson told USA Today that he would try to prevent Hernandez and fiancée Shayanna Jenkins from marrying.

“I don’t subscribe to that. I feel that those rights are things that you access on the outside, if you’re a good citizen,” he said. “We’ll do everything we can to not have that happen.”
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CloakNNNdagger;2178530Aaron Hernandez’s fiancée wouldn’t be able to testify against him if the two of them marry before he goes to trial. But the sheriff who oversees the jail holding Hernandez doesn’t want that to happen. Bristol County Sheriff Thomas M. Hodgson told USA Today that he would try to prevent Hernandez and fiancée Shayanna Jenkins from marrying. “I don’t subscribe to that. I feel that those rights are things that you access on the outside said:
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I had read that but heard on the radio that it might not help since the acts that occured would have been prior to marriage. Maybe Cak can jump in as it is certainly interesting


Under Massachusetts law, the answer is yes. “A spouse shall not be compelled to testify in the trial of an indictment, complaint, or other criminal proceeding brought against the other spouse,” the law states regarding the concept of the spousal privilege.

Massachusetts law also recognizes the concept of spousal disqualification, which prevents a spouse from testifying about communications occurring during the marriage — even if the spouse wants to.
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2012Champs said:
I had read that but heard on the radio that it might not help since the acts that occured would have been prior to marriage. Maybe Cak can jump in as it is certainly interesting
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This is from the link to Mass.gov

Section 504. Spousal Privilege and Disqualification; Parent-*Child Disqualification


NOTE

Subsection (a)(1). This subsection is taken nearly verbatim from G. L. c. 233, § 20, Second.

The existence of the privilege depends on whether the spouse who asserts it is then married. The privilege applies even if the spouse was not married at the time of the events that are the subject of the criminal trial, and even if the spouse who asserts the privilege had testified in an earlier proceeding or trial. See Commonwealth v. DiPietro, 373 Mass. 369, 382, 367 N.E.2d 811, 819 (1977). There is no common-law privilege, similar to the spousal privilege, applicable to unmarried cohabitants. Commonwealth v. Diaz, 422 Mass. 269, 274, 661 N.E.2d 1326, 1329 (1996).
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Colander said:
Well-written story of a tragic relationship.

The ties that bind Hernandez, Lloyd

Questions and grief abound as the story of these two men unfolds
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Very bizarre. Odin did not sound like a thug in any sense. Dude was just a regular guy trying to live his dream in the real world.

I cannot figure out why anyone would want him dead based on the information we have about him so far. Unless he was living a double-life that nobody around him knew about, but there is nothing to indicate such a thing at this point.
 
Double Barrel said:
Very bizarre. Odin did not sound like a thug in any sense. Dude was just a regular guy trying to live his dream in the real world.

I cannot figure out why anyone would want him dead based on the information we have about him so far. Unless he was living a double-life that nobody around him knew about, but there is nothing to indicate such a thing at this point.
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Yeah, seemed like a nice enough guy who got a little starstruck with Hernandez. Happy go lucky guy, paid money to play semi-pro football, rode a bike because he couldn't afford a car, had a lot of friends and family that loved him.

So he either spoke to someone that Hernandez had a beef with, and thereby earned a death sentence for
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disrespecting Hernandez...

Or Hernandez & thugs confessed a crime to Lloyd, and Lloyd was killed based on that knowledge and Hernandez's paranoia that he'd spill the beans.
 
Texan_Bill said:
A) "hybristophilia" - you're cut-off using big words

B) Using "(sic)", YOU ARE DEFINITELY CUT-OFF!!![/QUtaje it OTE]

Take it easy bill. I copied and pasted and don't blame me with my bad spellifactiousness. I went to westbury home of the fighting rebels.
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Aaron Hernandez apartment search uncovered ammo — and sweatshirt possibly worn on the night of murder

A State Police search of an apartment maintained by former New England Patriots player Aaron Hernandez a dozen miles from his home uncovered numerous boxes of firearm ammunition and a hooded white sweatshirt possibly worn by Hernandez on the night prosecutors allege he orchestrated the killing of an acquaintance, Odin Lloyd, according to documents on file at Wrentham District Court.

Hernandez has been charged with murder in Lloyd’s slaying, and two associates, Ernest Wallace and Carlos Ortiz, face charges in connection with the investigation. Authorities say they have recovered videotape from several security cameras that show Hernandez, Wallace, and Ortiz picking up Lloyd at his home on Fayston Street in Boston early in the morning on June 17, and then driving into a North Attleborough industrial park, where Lloyd’s body was discovered later that day.

“This sweatshirt is consistent in color and type with the sweatshirt that Hernandez is observed to be wearing on surveillance cameras the night of the homicide,” State Police wrote in an affidavit.

The late June searches at the apartment on Old West Central Street in Franklin found five boxes of .45-caliber ammunition, which is the caliber used to kill Lloyd, as well as rifle ammunition and one box of .22-caliber ammunition.

Investigators also found a hat Hernandez may have worn on a night out with Lloyd at a Boston nightclub several days before the murder, and a valet parking ticket from a hotel within walking distance of the nightclub, according to court documents.

The items were among those noted in search warrant “returns,” documents that list what police find in a search.

Ortiz apparently helped lead police to the Franklin apartment, according to the affidavit. Ortiz told police on June 25, the day before Hernandez was arrested, that he was with Hernandez on the day of Lloyd’s murder. He also told them that Hernandez, who lived at a sprawling home in North Attleborough, had another address “that not many people know about,” according to an affidavit.

It wasn’t clear why Hernandez maintained a second residence about 12 miles, or 20 minutes by car, from his home.
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Hmmm, did the fiance know about the secret apartment??? :hmmm:
 
I've never hurt anyone in my life, but I swear I could do a better job of getting away with it than Hernandez. LOL

Disclaimer: not that want to, of course. :fingergun:
 
FWIW,

nvestigators in the Aaron Hernandez murder case had reportedly hoped to interview his cousin's husband who died early Sunday morning in a high-speed car crash in Bristol, Conn.

Police say 33-year-old Thaddeus Singleton III of Bristol was killed when the car he was driving slammed into the Farmington Country Club early Sunday morning. The Hartford Curant reported that investigators wanted to speak to Singleton because of his relationship with Hernandez.

Singleton is married to Hernandez's cousin, and police say the car involved was registered to Hernandez's uncle. Their home has been searched several times by Massachusetts police investigating a 2012 double homicide linked to the former NFL star.

Police seized a vehicle from that home on Friday.

The cause of the accident has not been determined. Police said a woman in the car was in the hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. Her name has not been released.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/03/aaron-hernandez-investigators-wanted-to-interview-car-crash-victim-report-says/#ixzz2Y1FMd7zM
 
Thorn said:
I've never hurt anyone in my life, but I swear I could do a better job of getting away with it than Hernandez. LOL

Disclaimer: not that want to, of course. :fingergun:
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I don't know. It might be that he's just gotten away with it so often that he miscalculated how hard he had to try to get away with it.
 
Thorn said:
I've never hurt anyone in my life, but I swear I could do a better job of getting away with it than Hernandez. LOL

Disclaimer: not that want to, of course. :fingergun:
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And if you had, you would probably have forgotten all about it by now :)
 
Seems like they find more evidence everyday...

And lol and Ortiz rolling on Hernandez. I guess you really can't trust anyone Aaron!
 
Rey said:
Seems like they find more evidence everyday...

And lol and Ortiz rolling on Hernandez. I guess you really can't trust anyone Aaron!
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No kidding next they're gonna charge him with killing jonbenet Ramsey and the lindburg baby.
 
My notes pre-draft didn't have any character red flags on Hernandez anthing like what has come out since so for all those who say "Patriots should have known about this guy" I'm not really sure the background checks revealed what is happening now. This was a special crop of TE's. I thought the world of Oklahoma TE Jermaine Gresham, then there was Rob Gronkowski, Dennis Pitta who I wanted Texans to draft, Jimmy Graham who was considered a developmental project to our very own Garrett Graham who has done things the right way & managed to hang around now becoming a starter & key cog in Gary Kubiaks offense.

Hernandez won the Mackey award in 2009 given to the nations top TE. My guess is these reports where late in the process after evaluation was completed. Some teams probably did there due diligence & investigated later then took him off their boards or devalued him while the Patriots didn't. I'm sure they will look more seriously @ character from now on :pinned: This is just a very sad story to say the least.

BL :fostering:
 
As long as college players are protected from themselves for the wrong reasons (for the benefit of the school team), we will continue to see this troublesome pattern when they reach the NFL.

In 2007 in Gainesville, Fla., two men were shot and wounded while sitting in their car after an alleged altercation at a nightclub. A third man, Randall Cason, originally identified the shooters as Hernandez, then a freshman football player at Florida, and Reggie Nelson, a former Gator who then played for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Cason later went back on those identifications, and the two were never charged in the case—but, in light of recent events, the cops now want to know a bit more about whether the retraction was a “yeah, I identified the wrong guys” sort of thing or a “let’s keep football players on the field” sort of thing.
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You’d be excused for thinking that college football has a drinking problem—or, more specifically, a drinking and punching problem. A couple of weeks ago, Florida linebacker Antonio Morrison was charged with battery after he “took issue with the bouncer because of the cover charge” at a Gainesville bar. LSU’s starting quarterback Jordan Jefferson was arrested in 2011 for allegedly kicking a man in the head in a bar fight. Last December three Oregon State players were arrested for assault after an altercation at the ironically named Impulse Bar and Grill. Last October, Texas Tech’s starting center was arrested after a fight at a campus-area bar. Last June, Texas A&M freshman John “Johnny Football” Manziel, then 19, was arrested in the local “bar district” and charged with “fighting, failure to identify himself and carrying two fake licenses,” because you don’t want to be left in the lurch if one of your fakes gets confiscated, am I right?

What happened to these players in the aftermath of their arrests? In all cases, the harshest consequences were avoided. Johnny Manziel was originally suspended by the university for the entire season, a penalty that was later overturned after coach Kevin Sumlin intervened and said that the football program’s “strict internal punishment” of Manziel should be enough. Jordan Jefferson’s suspension was lifted after a grand jury reduced his charges from a felony to a misdemeanor. The criminal charges against the Oregon State players were also quickly reduced to misdemeanors, though all three were suspended for the Beavers’ bowl game. The Texas Tech center, Deveric Gallington, didn’t miss a game after his arrest. Gallington was only charged with misdemeanors. “Don’t worry,” wrote one commenter on redraiders.com. “The powers to be will get this fixed with the DA just like they do with others cases involving football players at TTU.”

And what about Antonio Morrison? Florida Gators sites and message boards have been full of references to Huntley Johnson, a Gainesville attorney who has had great success in getting Gators off the hook; as a 2010 Associated Press profile put it, “[v]irtually every Gator player who hires him stays out of jail.” “Misdemeanor battery? Huntley Johnson will get that dropped by the 4th,” said a commenter on alligatorarmy.com in reference to the Morrison case, and, sure enough, the charges against Morrison were deferred for six months and will likely be dropped.

That brings us back to Aaron Hernandez. Johnson served as Hernandez’s attorney after a different bar fight in 2007, when the then-17-year-old scuffled with a bouncer at a Gainesville tavern. Hernandez's juvenile records are sealed, so it's not been revealed exactly how the case was resolved. It's abundantly clear, though, that nothing serious came of the matter, as always seems to happen when Johnson represents a Gator football player. Maybe something should have come of it. I still believe that the people who claim that Hernandez's collegiate troubles presaged these current murder charges are wrong, mostly. NFL rosters are stocked with players who were crazy in college but settled down once they got older and wealthier. But I'm also starting to believe that it's unhealthy for athletes—or anyone, really—to get accustomed to not getting in trouble for their alleged misdeeds. Maybe facing consequences early in life can help you avoid far graver ones later on down the road.
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Got to make you think.............
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
As long as college players are protected from themselves for the wrong reasons (for the benefit of the school team), we will continue to see this troublesome pattern when they reach the NFL.

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Got to make you think.............
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Somehow to PC Police convinced many parents that "spare the rod, spoil the child" was the better way. Bad behavior with no consequence reinforces bad behavior. Simple.

I'll say another thing, too. If you involve me in a murder, I won't see it as some
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bond of trust. I'll see it as a threat to my life -- attempted murder of my next 25-to-life. This eludes most of these kids.

If I'm a criminal and you involve me, expect bullets from me.
 
Playoffs said:
Somehow to PC Police convinced many parents that "spare the rod, spoil the child" was the better way. Bad behavior with no consequence reinforces bad behavior. Simple.
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Spare the rod doesn't mean do not punish the child.

It means do not spank the child, more precisely, do not abuse the child.

There are many people who are productive citizens with no criminal history at all that have never been privy to corporal punishment.
 
Temper, temper............

Last March, a distraught Shayanna Jenkins made a frantic 911 call to the Hermosa Beach Police Department at 8:16 p.m. indicating that her fiancé had cut his wrist.

Shayanna Jenkins, fiancée of former New England Patriots football player Aaron Hernandez, weeps in the courtroom after a bail hearing for Hernandez in Fall River Superior Court.

When officers arrived at the luxury townhouse, located a block away from the beach, they first thought the 23-year-old man—later identified as New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez—had tried to kill himself. But the young woman explained that the couple had a fight and he cut himself on glass.

“He was mad and punched a window,” said Hermosa Beach Police Department Lt. Tom Thompson. “He had been drinking. He was injured, so she called paramedics.”

Officers later asked Jenkins if the incident was “domestic.” Hernandez, who was living in the ritzy beach community at the time for training and physical therapy, told them that he punched the window “due to being mad about something else.”

Police were called back to the young couple’s townhouse a week later when a neighbor heard yelling and “things being thrown around” in the house. Officers reported that it was “verbal only” and "female will pack some stuff, male half left and will come back later."

“We showed up and it looked like he had left,” said Thompson. “Obviously there were some issues.”
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Meyer breaks silence on Hernandez
Posted by Mike Florio on July 6, 2013, 10:21 AM EDT

Five days ago, former Florida coach Urban Meyer previously had nothing to say about former Gators tight end Aaron Hernandez. Now, with mounting criticism of his program in Gainesville as more negative information about Hernandez emerges, Meyer has broken his silence.

“Prayers and thoughts are with the family and friends of the victim,” Meyer, now the head coach at Ohio State, told Tim May of the Columbus Dispatch via text message. “Relating or blaming these serious charges to the University of Florida, myself or our staff is wrong and irresponsible.”
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THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY

Wrong and irresponsible??
 
Ben Volin of the Boston Globe adds another interesting twist to the Hernandez-Patriots dynamics. Hernandez hasn't failed a drug test while with the Patriots, but....................


Volin also reports the team had no concerns with Hernandez as a player. ”He showed up to meetings and practices on time, practiced hard, stayed in shape, was very coachable, and starred on the field, scoring 18 touchdowns in three seasons,” Volin writes, citing an unnamed team source.

The only issue, and ultimately it may have been a big one, came from Hernandez’s reluctance to sever ties with his friends in Connecticut. Per Volin, Hernandez would “tune out and occasionally become angry” when a coach or other team employee tried to raise the issue with him.

That makes the decision to sign Hernandez to a $40 million deal in 2012 with a $12.5 million signing bonus even more surprising. It’s one thing to take a fourth-round flier on a first-round talent. But the Pats decided after only two seasons to tie the knot with Hernandez, despite his reluctance to break from folks whom the Patriots apparently believed could get Hernandez in to trouble.

The contact negotiations provided a perfect opportunity to draw bright lines regarding the things Hernandez can and can’t do going forward. The Patriots routinely dictate terms to players and agents; when it comes to free agency, for example, agents and players know that they can pretty much nothing without angering (and possibly alienating) Bill Belichick and company.

At a minimum, Hernandez’s contract could have been constructed to provide better (any) protections for the team, with roster bonuses replacing an eight-figure lump sum that Hernandez earned once he signed the deal. While there remains no plausible or logical way to project murder from Hernandez’s history, the Patriots’ failure to properly guard against a worst-case scenario is stunning, given that they at least had reason to be concerned that something could happen with Hernandez.

Otherwise, they wouldn’t have periodically asked him to quit hanging around with his friends in Connecticut.
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