Texans OTAs thread (5/20-21, 23, 28-30, 6/3-6).

[CloakNNNdagger]

Why would that have him MIA as opposed to in attendance and not participating (ala Cushing and Posey), or off on his own doing recovery/rehab (as in the case of Ed Reed)?

Can't really answer that question at this time any better than The Pencil Neck. Just offering a viable explanation for why he isn't present. With Kubiak's short cryptic response of "It's voluntary," I think that it's just as likely Kubiak may know more than he is revealing.........and he is not very happy.

 

[Playoffs]

PDS ‏@PatDStat
Punter update: Lechler was dropping bombs today. Makes a different noise off his foot. Hard time not to be impressed. #Texans

Cushing working on side field. Looks good,moving well. Not a minute goes by where he is not rehabbing or doing something productive

JJo pointed out what Kareem said about McCain. Having him back makes the secondary better. #Texans

Arian Foster has been quiet with the media. Looks focused on the field and not much to say in general. #Texans

Roc Carmichael once again had good day. His closing speed on routes looks good. Has impressed with his coverage ability.

Talked to JJo after practice, said Eddie Pleasant has turned into a NFL player over the offseason.

Brooks Reed showed some coverage skills today. Made some tough throws for the quarterbacks. #Texans

Hard not to like the early start for Keshawn Martin. Looks much more confident and making a nice compliment to #80 and #10. #TexansPDS

The #Texans TEs look good. Daniels, Graham and Griffin caught everything. Position group looks strong. #Texans

Delano Johnson looks very good at his new position. His ability to run at 290 lbs. makes him an intersting fit at DE. #Texans

Dennis Johnson just keeps impressing. He is able to turn corners with ease with the football in his hands. #Texans

Cierre Wood had a good running day. Looked good with his vision, but still work to do on pass protection. #Texans

If this would have been live Kareem Jackson and Danieal Manning would have had some wide receivers laid out. Both had good days. #Texans

The secondary was on top of their game. JJo was solid in coverage and had Andre and DeAndre working hard for everything today. #Texans

Yates looked much more confident in the pocket and

TJ Yates looked good throwing the football. Made some big throws to Martin and Hopkins. #Texans

 

[deucetx]

Why?

We've already seen that last year. Reed & Whitney on the ends isn't going to get us the pass rush we need. We need to get better.

I don't know that Montgomery or Williams is the answer, but I'm not "worried" about them starting. If Wade thinks it's worth a shot..... go for it. Can't get a whole lot worse.

Completely agree. I hear folks talk about experience but when have we had much experience on the outside anyway? Third year in this system so none of our guys have a ton. Ironically, Barwin and Reed did better when they didn't have any experience as 3-4 OLB's. Go figure. Experience means nothing if you can't produce and right now I'm not overly anxious to see Reed outside again.

My guess is that this is what the Texans brass hopes happens.

I doubt it. They invested two picks in OLB this year, Merci last year and Braman on roster. That right there is four guys not going anywhere. That means they already have a heavy investment in the position moreso than ILB where they made no moves. What they want is Montgomery or Williams to establish themselves because they become much more flexible if Reed slides inside giving them more balance. Plus it makes those two picks wasted and personnel folks can't stand that.

And while Sharpton is an 'okay' player he isn't very solid or that good. He's a good rotational guy but barely different than Dobbins (if at all). Might as well what Dobbins starting. I think Reed can give more at the spot but nothing to base that on really. Not to forget that a large gust of wind may break Sharpton in half *knocks on wood*

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Completely agree. I hear folks talk about experience but when have we had much experience on the outside anyway? Third year in this system so none of our guys have a ton. Ironically, Barwin and Reed did better when they didn't have any experience as 3-4 OLB's. Go figure. Experience means nothing if you can't produce and right now I'm not overly anxious to see Reed outside again.



I doubt it. They invested two picks in OLB this year, Merci last year and Braman on roster. That right there is four guys not going anywhere. That means they already have a heavy investment in the position moreso than ILB where they made no moves. What they want is Montgomery or Williams to establish themselves because they become much more flexible if Reed slides inside giving them more balance. Plus it makes those two picks wasted and personnel folks can't stand that.

And while Sharpton is an 'okay' player he isn't very solid or that good. He's a good rotational guy but barely different than Dobbins (if at all). Might as well what Dobbins starting. I think Reed can give more at the spot but nothing to base that on really. Not to forget that a large gust of wind may break Sharpton in half *knocks on wood*

The exact group of people picked all the players discussed in the top 4 rounds of the draft, so wasted draft picks is not relevant at all.

while they drafted OLBs, that does not mean they are excited about starting 3rd/4th round rookies. Kubes and co are more conservative than not and I believe that would rather start "known" quantities Reed and Sharpton unless the rookie or Reed (inside) plays well beyond current expectation.

 

[ChampionTexan]

Since it's voluntary, he might have decided to stay home and rehab on his own rather than coming in for it.

EDIT: And he might not have told the team he was going to do that.

Can't really answer that question at this time any better than The Pencil Neck. Just offering a viable explanation for why he isn't present. With Kubiak's short cryptic response of "It's voluntary," I think that it's just as likely Kubiak may know more than he is revealing.........and he is not very happy.

Obviously, anything's possible, but in terms of speculating, I just don't see there's any sort of benefit to Dobbins or to the Texans for handling it that way.

The thing that's the strangest to me is that Dobbins signed a new contract in April. In addition to decreasing (IMO) the likelihood that Dobbins injury was all that "serious" (if it was, they would likely have waited to sign him), it also means he shouldn't really have any problems with his contract (or at least none that he would expect to change by not showing up to OTAs).

Maybe we'll ultimately find out - or maybe not.

 

[Rey]

My bet is on Mexican Jail.

 

[ChampionTexan]

My bet is on Mexican Jail.

In the infirmary of that Mexican Jail (just to bring the two lines of speculation together).

 

[deucetx]

The exact group of people picked all the players discussed in the top 4 rounds of the draft, so wasted draft picks is not relevant at all.

while they drafted OLBs, that does not mean they are excited about starting 3rd/4th round rookies. Kubes and co are more conservative than not and I believe that would rather start "known" quantities Reed and Sharpton unless the rookie or Reed (inside) plays well beyond current expectation.

What are the "known" quantities? Sharpton has barely played and when he has it has been medicore at best. He has a whopping 340 snaps in this defense. That isn't even half a season worth. Reed gave us absolutely no pass rush from the outside so he is hardly a known quantity. We have no idea what he will show or not show outside. So I would hardly call either one of those guys a known quantity.

As for starting rookies, defensive lineups are chosen by Wade who has shown no issue with such. None of our guys have a ton of experience outside. Just don't see them choosing two OLB's and then being hesitant on starting them just because of the round they were chosen. Everything they have said thus far points to them wanting to see Williams or Montgomery step it up to take that role as well.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Obviously, anything's possible, but in terms of speculating, I just don't see there's any sort of benefit to Dobbins or to the Texans for handling it that way.

The thing that's the strangest to me is that Dobbins signed a new contract in April. In addition to decreasing (IMO) the likelihood that Dobbins injury was all that "serious" (if it was, they would likely have waited to sign him), it also means he shouldn't really have any problems with his contract (or at least none that he would expect to change by not showing up to OTAs).

Maybe we'll ultimately find out - or maybe not.

Only $65,000 of his contract (signing bonus) is guaranteed (his $820,000 base salary is not). And since the injury occurred in the same year of the contract, there may be a question of an injury settlement if he doesn't feel like he will be able to perform. Just another thought. However, like you stated "Maybe we'll ultimately find out-or maybe not."

 

[Rey]

Based on what Kubiak said, it seems like fans are sleeping on Braman.

He's starting right now at OLB.

Right now it's his position to lose. Kubiak mentioned how some guys are given that opportunity because of whatever circumstance and how guys tend to relish in the moment and seize the chance.

Dont be surprised if Braman is the starting OLB going into the season with the Rookies spelling him and Merciless in a healthy rotation...

 

[Playoffs]

James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN 8m
"He maybe having the best offseason I've ever seen him have." - Gary Kubiak on Arian Foster.

6th rd pick Alan Bonner had a few big catches over the middle today. Figuring it out but still needs work. #texans #texanstalk.


Manning told me that guys like Andre Johnson and Matt Schaub don't have to be out here at OTAs, but it shows what #texans are trying to do.

 

[SW H-TOWN]

Please keep an eye on Sharpton. His mobility is really good news. I hope he impresses when training camp comes around because at this point I am not too excited at the thought of having Montgomery or Williams being our day one starter. Unless we sign somebody it seems to me our best case scenario would be to have a Reed/Cushing/Sharpton/Mercilus LB Core. Hope Sharpton can stay healthy.

Why?

We've already seen that last year. Reed & Whitney on the ends isn't going to get us the pass rush we need. We need to get better.

I don't know that Montgomery or Williams is the answer, but I'm not "worried" about them starting. If Wade thinks it's worth a shot..... go for it. Can't get a whole lot worse.

Mercilus was a 1st round draft pick who had 6 sacks in a limited role, limited role. The Texans will be looking for him to have 10+ sacks as a full time starter. Reed did not have a great year last year and very well might be a better ILB than OLB but you can rest assured that the Texans did not draft Montgomery (3rd round) or Williams (4th round) thinking..."We got our day one starter at the other OLB position." You would have a rookie and a second year player at the OLB positions. At the very most they are hoping with very little confidence, but not counting on having either one of those rookies starting. This is not DeAndre Hopkins we are talking about. There might be a lot of talk about Reed moving inside but that is not the best case scenario given our current personnel.

 

[SW H-TOWN]

My guess is that this is what the Texans brass hopes happens.

Agreed.

 

[Rey]

Reed going inside is the best case scenario because he's not a good pass rusher.

Hopefully he can fill the role of utility man.

 

[SW H-TOWN]

Reed going inside is the best case scenario because he's not a good pass rusher.

Hopefully he can fill the role of utility man.

I agree, he is not a good pash rusher, but who will start for him on the outside that will form a better overall LB core than Reed/Cush/Sharpton/Mercilus. Think they will start a rookie in their base formation? I'm just curious what you think would be ideal given our current personnel.

 

[Texans_Chick]

Just a thought. Dobbins was IR'ed the beginning of Jan (4 1/2 months ago). The reason given was a nondescriptive "serious right ankle injury." If this were a significant high ankle sprain, return to play can easily be as long as 4-6 months or longer. If the high ankle sprain is severe and remains or becomes unstable and does not respond to rehab, surgery may become the only viable option.


[EDIT: ADDITIONAL INFO
Rotoworld reported the Texans release at the time:


Always get a little uneasy when I see these type of injury reports by the Texans.]

At the time we asked the question to Kubiak, he mentioned all the other guys that were there and said that Ed Reed was doing the rehabilitation per what the doctors want.

So maybe Dobbins has a physical issue. But there's other guys with physical issues rehabbing onsite. Doing mental reps.

Typically, if a guy is missing a practice for a reason, Kubiak shares that reason (like player being gone for graduations ceremony or something like that).

Still not there today.

Can't remember a player in Dobbins sort of situation not showing up for OTAs.

 

[SW H-TOWN]

Based on what Kubiak said, it seems like fans are sleeping on Braman.

He's starting right now at OLB.

Right now it's his position to lose. Kubiak mentioned how some guys are given that opportunity because of whatever circumstance and how guys tend to relish in the moment and seize the chance.

Dont be surprised if Braman is the starting OLB going into the season with the Rookies spelling him and Merciless in a healthy rotation...

Ok, I found what you think is ideal. Braman and Mercilus at OLB and Cush and Reed inside.

 

[Texans_Chick]

I asked two Kubiak questions. They should be on the quote sheet this afternoon because they were recorded by Texans:

1. Re: Offensive line rotation 2. Whether they will have vet player competition for kicker.

Mentioned last years rotation due to inexperience/injury. Asked him what he wanted to do this year.

He mentioned various injuries. Still need to work with group. If he determines he has two solid guys tackle, then he'd prefer not to rotate.

2. As for kicker, he said that UDFA Shapiro is on the roster and can kick and punt, and helps spare legs. It didn't sound from his response that they would be bringing in a veteran kicker.

Here's some info about from agent's press release.

“I signed Andrew because he has great hang time (5.0), can directional punt to the left and right, and has a great kickoff leg,” says McBride Baxter. “In addition he kicks field goals and PAT. He has held for a left footed and right footed kicker and he can cover and tackle. He has a lot of speed. He has long legs and potential to be a great specialist in the NFL. He is a great athlete.”
Go here for Andrew Shapiro's profile at Sports Agent Jill McBride Baxter's website.
Some of Shapiro’s accomplishments include:
In 2012 he was the fastest specialist in Fresno State History (4.53 (40), 3.96 (shuttle), 33.5 (vert).
In 2012 he named Honorable Mention All-Conference.
In 2012 punted 64 times for an average or 42 yards and a net of 37 yards.
In 2012 punted a long of 69 yards which tied for the second longest in the conference.
Named National Honorable Mention Punter by College Football Performance Award’s four times.
Named to the All-Conference Academic Team three years in a row.
Named special teams captain as a sophomore in 2010 and again in 2012.
Punted 66 times in 2011 for 40 yards with a long of 54.
Had 25 punts fair caught and 21 downed inside the 20-yard line (ranked 19th nationally inside 20).
Kicked off 17 times in 2011 for 65 yards.
Has kicked of 89 times with an average of 63 yards.
Has 10 tackles and 1 fumble recovery.

Pete Germano, Special Teams Coach at Fresno State in 2012, says that in his twenty years of coaching he has never been around a player like Andrew Shapiro.
“Andrew Shapiro is the most versatile specialist I have ever coached and one of the nicest and brightest young men I have met,” says Germano. “He can kick with both feet, punt, kick off, kick field goals and PAT. He is a great student of the game.”
Special Teams Coach Pete Alamar of Stanford, who was previously a special teams coach at Fresno State, echos Germano's praise of Shapiro.
"His ability to hit a high ball along with his expertise in directional punting and Aussie punting makes him a pro prospect," says Alamar. "Once you factor in his kickoff, field goal and holding skills his potential is limitless."
"His work ethic and passion sets him apart from the competition," says Alamar. "Whoever he competes against better bring their lunchbox. Andrew is truly a 4 tool specialist. He is accomplished at punting, kickoffs, holding and can also kick field goals."

So there you go.

 

[mussop]

TC I'm really interested in what is going on at NT. I'm worried that is going to be our achilles heel. I just for the life of me can't see Mitchell being a full time starter and holding up a full season. Please tell me he looks like he's improved drastically over the offseason.

 

[Texans_Chick]

TC I'm really interested in what is going on at NT. I'm worried that is going to be our achilles heel. I just for the life of me can't see Mitchell being a full time starter and holding up a full season. Please tell me he looks like he's improved drastically over the offseason.

I meant to focus on the Dline today, but I got caught up watching the secondary today.

I did write about Mitchell in my last blog post. In sum, Mitchell looks physically good but he looked physically good last season. You can't tell a lot about dline improvement when they are just wearing shorts, not really wrecking shop anyways. But that I'm not buying big improvement because it hasn't already happened after two years of Wade, and that his numbers last year were not encouraging. And that I didn't like the way the defense played when Cody had to go out with a rib injury--maybe that was a product of just being thin at dline but I'm not optimistic on this point.

Wade has had all-pro guys at DT. And JJ has played well when he moves inside. But as for the rest of the guys who are the DT on the line. Not seeing all pro play. Sonny Harris had some nice moments last year. He got hurt I think on Tues with a foot issue during a drill.

 

[Texans_Chick]

Kubiak quotes:

Head Coach Gary Kubiak
(on the first week of OTAs) “It was really good. I’m excited. Our young guys have come a long way. I think the five practices they got in the mini-camp really helped them. It’s been good. We had some good work; not too hot. So, make it through and come back next Tuesday and get going again.”

(on if he’s keeping a close eye on how much the young players grasp) “Yeah. As a matter of fact, I told the team after practice, I think one of the keys to longevity in this League success-wise is young players getting better real quick. It’s fun for me right now to sit here and watch (WR) Keshawn (Martin), to watch (CB) Roc (Carmichael), (DE) Delano (Johnson), (G) Brandon Brooks all of the sudden become pros at a very young age. If we’re going to keep going, be consistent at what we’re doing, guys like that have to step up and contribute right away. I like what I see. I think some young guys have really come in here a lot better football player right now than they were last year.”

(on OLB Brooks Reed) “He’s doing great. First off, boy, bless him. He probably feels like a yo-yo sometimes; he’s bounced around a little bit. We thought it was important that he took his reps inside with where we’re at as a team right now. He’s fine. I mean, he has no problem mentally. He’s looked really good and he’s healthy. He’s coming off that surgery but he’s doing good. For the better of the team right now, that’s where he’s working. He’s doing a good job.”

(on CB Brandon Harris’ injury status) “He’s fine. We’re putting him through the protocol that you would do during the regular season. A guy gets dinged like that, gets knocked out like he did, we’ll put him through the total protocol. You probably won’t see him for a good week as he goes through the process.”

(on what he has seen from WR Keshawn Martin) “It’s automatic for him now. All his talent has taken over because he doesn’t have to work so hard at the little things; assignment, those type of things. He just comes out here and plays. Very confident young man and it shows. It shows every day.”

(on if there is more pressure on QB Matt Schaub after the team has gone to the same round of the playoffs two years in a row) “I think the pressure is the same all the time. I don’t think it changes. (QB) Matt’s (Schaub) goal is to win a championship and we’ve got to get a team that can get that done. He’s got his job to do with the football team. Right now, this time of year, it’s about chemistry of the team. Putting this 2013 group together, we’re going to be different, we’re going to have a different personality and trying to start to put that together.”

(on OLB Whitney Mercilus) “He’s done really good. First off, you can tell he’s confident. Whitney has probably talked more in a day than he did all last year. He’s coming out of his shell from that standpoint. He’s another player; here’s a second-year guy that’s being asked to become a great player real quick. If we’re going to get to where we want to go, those are the type of things that have to happen. He’s off to a good start.”

(on how OLB Sam Montgomery looks dropping into coverage) “He’s doing fine. The position he’s playing, he’s not asked to drop a lot. He has gotten in better shape. I think he struggled the first camp we had that weekend. So he’s in much better shape and then his ability starts to take over. I think he’s progressing well, he and (OLB) Trevardo (Williams) both.”

(on if he plans to change the rotation on the right side of the offensive line from last season) “I’ll do what I think is best for our team and I don’t know what that is right now. (G) Brandon (Brooks) is working as the starting right guard. (T Derek) Newton is out. (T) Brennan Williams has not been able to practice. (T) Ryan Harris is on the right side. We have a lot of things going on right now, but if we have two solid starters that are consistent throughout the course of camp, then that’s the way we’ll go. But I think with what we went through last year, I think those young guys did a hell of a job.”

(on if QB Matt Schaub looks 100 percent) “Yeah. He looks fine to me. He’s had a good offseason. Obviously, he hasn’t missed anything; plays all last year. I kind of forgot about him missing OTAs last year. But I think it’s important no matter how long you play, I think you need to get out here and get some reps in. I’ve got to protect some of these guys and give them days off here or there, some of these older guys throughout these 10 days. But I think it’s important that he goes through OTAs again.”

(on how RB Arian Foster has changed) “How long has (RB) Arian (Foster) been with me now? Four years? Maybe having the best offseason I’ve seen him have. He’s doing something a little different training-wise. He’d have to tell you what he’s doing. I think he looks a little slimmer. I don’t know if he weighs (different). But he just looks a little different, how he’s carrying his weight. He’s been excellent throughout the course of the offseason; expects a lot of himself.”

(on if he’s intending to bring in competition for the kicking position) “Well, the young man we have here now can do both. (P Andrew) Shapiro can do both. But the way camp is set up now with the numbers, whoever that other guy is, and so our other guy is Shapiro, you want him to build it. Do both to take something off the punter and your kicker so you can use those roster spots somewhere else. Our plan is to go to camp that way and let them both compete against him because he’s a kid that’s done both pretty well in college.”

(on what he’s seen specifically from WR Keshawn Martin that has changed) “These three days have been very impressive to me. I just see a guy that, year two, nothing’s hard for him anymore. He understands everything that’s going on so he just comes out here and works and gets better every day. Me sitting (WR) Andre (Johnson) every other day makes him a starter, too, from that standpoint. I’m really excited about what I’ve seen these past three days.”

(on if drafting a wide receiver in the first round may have lit a fire under some of the younger receivers) “I’m sure. You’re (WR) Lestar (Jean) and (WR) Keshawn (Martin) and you’ve been working all last year and we draft a one and he goes in the huddle with the first group. That’ll get you going. But I don’t think in this case that’s what’s happened with them. I think that they’ve been workers the whole time. I think they see opportunity. I think that’s what they see and when guys get opportunities you usually find out what they have.”

(on what is different about QB Case Keenum) “Confidence. Just confidence. Just watching him operate knowing exactly what he’s doing, making all the calls. He’s going to be fun to watch. He’s very competitive right now. That’s a good thing for our team.”

(on QB Case Keenum saying head coach Gary Kubiak’s praise for him changes nothing) “He’s a good kid. I remember talking to (Kevin Sumlin) about him and (Kliff) Kingsbury about him and they said you can say anything you want to him. He’s heard it all. So I’m going to assume they coached him pretty darn hard. He’s doing a good job. He’s come a long way.”

(on if he is bothered at the criticism of QB Matt Schaub following the loss in the playoffs) “Well, we were there because of him. Hell, that’s part of playing quarterback. It just makes you better, pushes you every day. It’s part of your career, part of your makeup. He’s doing fine. He’s had a really good three days.”

(on if he feels he doesn’t need to defend QB Matt Schaub because that’s just the way people are about quarterbacks) “I think it’s part of the job. If you can’t take a little of that in this business, you’re probably not going to last very long. That’s what it’s all about.”

(on if he worries about situations and injuries to players in OTAs like that suffered by San Francisco 49ers WR Michael Crabtree) “Yeah, you do. You get 10 days and to be honest with you, you hold your breath every day. You want to get better as a team. You catch all the young guys up but freak accidents happen. We had (TE Phillip) Supernaw and (NT) Sunny (Harris) the first day. (We) weren’t even in a team period, just running an individual drill and both of them hurt their foot. It’s part of football but it’s the bad part. That’s why you’ll always hear us on their tail to stay of the ground, to protect each other. I think it’s about respect. We usually do a pretty good job but they get tired and those things happen, unfortunately.”

 

[JCTexan]

I asked two Kubiak questions. They should be on the quote sheet this afternoon because they were recorded by Texans:

1. Re: Offensive line rotation 2. Whether they will have vet player competition for kicker.

Mentioned last years rotation due to inexperience/injury. Asked him what he wanted to do this year.

He mentioned various injuries. Still need to work with group. If he determines he has two solid guys tackle, then he'd prefer not to rotate.

2. As for kicker, he said that UDFA Shapiro is on the roster and can kick and punt, and helps spare legs. It didn't sound from his response that they would be bringing in a veteran kicker.

Here's some info about from agent's press release.



So there you go.

Is there any chance Andrew Shapiro makes the team? With Lechler & Bullock I would think the K/P positions are solidified.

 

[Rey]

I had been wondering about Shapiro...

I feel like he really has a chance to beat out Bullock IF he shows some consistency kicking field goals.

Maybe one of them gets put on the PS. I think they'll both hang around though and I think Shapiro would be first in line for the Punter Job when Lechler isn't around.

But regarding this season, Bullock needs to show me something. I didn't see a lot of power on his kick-offs last season...We'll see I guess...

 

[thunderkyss]

...but you can rest assured that the Texans did not draft Montgomery (3rd round) or Williams (4th round) thinking..."We got our day one starter at the other OLB position." You would have a rookie and second year player at the OLB positions. At the very most they are hoping with very little confidence, but not counting on having either one of those rookies starting. This is not DeAndre Hopkins we are talking about. There might be a lot of talk about Reed moving inside but that is not the best case scenario given our current personnel.

I'd feel much better if the Texans are following my line of thinking.

vs NewEngland, both times, we all felt the OLBs had to contribute & help Jj Watt. Didn't happen in either game. We seem to be "fine" lumping it all on Matt Schaub, but the truth is we need more from the outside pass rush. Those two guys (Watt & Smith) couldn't have had a better season & we got relatively squat from the outside.

Maybe Mercilus will grow into the guy we need him to be. I'm fine with that, but we do not need to put all our eggs in one basket. Putting those eggs in the Whitney & Brooks basket is just as pointless.

Start Merci, that's a move in the right direction. Move Reed inside, he'll be just as good as anything we had at ILB last year not named Brian Cushing. Then we've got Braman, Montgomery, & Williams to round out our OLB & hopefully one of those guys will make some noise.

At most, I would think they believe Williams will be able to come off the bench & pressure the QB in Merci's old limited role. Hopefully Braman will start & give us what Reed did on the outside at the very least. & Hopefully Montgomery will push Braman for the starting job.

 

[Texans_Chick]

Is there any chance Andrew Shapiro makes the team? With Lechler & Bullock I would think the K/P positions are solidified.

Punter is.

We don't know what Bullock is other than a guy who didn't play his rookie year, didn't have an outstanding camp last year, got hurt before the season started.

I don't feel comfortable handing him the job. But hard to imagine an undrafted guy who was mainly a punter in college displacing him.

I'm guessing if Bullock has a good camp, it is his job. And if he ends up blowing in real games, they will get some vet that is available and hope for the best.

Here's my blog post focusing on punting and kicking. Also has some info about the limitations of what can/can't be reported from OTAs.

 

[thunderkyss]

(on what he has seen from WR Keshawn Martin) “It’s automatic for him now. All his talent has taken over because he doesn’t have to work so hard at the little things; assignment, those type of things. He just comes out here and plays. Very confident young man and it shows. It shows every day.”

(on what he’s seen specifically from WR Keshawn Martin that has changed) “These three days have been very impressive to me. I just see a guy that, year two, nothing’s hard for him anymore. He understands everything that’s going on so he just comes out here and works and gets better every day. Me sitting (WR) Andre (Johnson) every other day makes him a starter, too, from that standpoint. I’m really excited about what I’ve seen these past three days.”

(on if drafting a wide receiver in the first round may have lit a fire under some of the younger receivers) “I’m sure. You’re (WR) Lestar (Jean) and (WR) Keshawn (Martin) and you’ve been working all last year and we draft a one and he goes in the huddle with the first group. That’ll get you going. But I don’t think in this case that’s what’s happened with them. I think that they’ve been workers the whole time. I think they see opportunity. I think that’s what they see and when guys get opportunities you usually find out what they have.”

I'm really liking what I'm hearing about Keyshawn. There was a lot of talk about him last year all through camp & we got to see some of what they were talking about when the season started.

If he's progressing, builds on what he did last year & gaining the trust of Kubiak & Schaub.... that's a good thing. That's a real good thing.

 

[Playoffs]

PDS ‏@PatDStat
Hopkins is a fun player to watch during practice and he is just getting started. #Texans

WR is one of the toughest positions to transition to from college to NFL, but Hopkins is doing everything, in my eyes, to get ready.

Don't know where Hopkins will end up as a career, but the #Texans have never had a player of his caliber opposite of Johnson. #Texans

He would go back in line to get that extra rep to get it right. That to me says a lot about Hopkins. Always asking questions. #Texans

Today was one of the first day I saw [DeAndre] Hopkins get frustrated. He puts pressure on himself to be perfect, today it was route running. #Texans

 

[Texans_Chick]

Will also note that before OTAs, apparently Lechler and Bullock have been working together on holds etc. Hopefully they've seen enough of Bullock to be cool going into the season.

 

[painekiller]

That is Gary P. Nunn's song "London Homesick Blues" on Jerry Jeff's classic album "¡Viva Terlingua!" (anyone without a copy should be deported from Texas immediately).

Sorry, sometimes things like that bug me and I have to correct them.


First time the black knight scene has ever been described as "dry". Most people would call it wet. Even the guy at the Cheese Shop would say "it's a bit runny..."

You are right, Hubbard is "Redneck Mother" thanks for clarification.

That is my favorite song on that album and yes the album is on my Iphone.

 

[Texans_Chick]

PDS ‏@PatDStat

Don't know where Hopkins will end up as a career, but the #Texans have never had a player of his caliber opposite of Johnson. #Texans

He would go back in line to get that extra rep to get it right. That to me says a lot about Hopkins. Always asking questions. #Texans

Today was one of the first day I saw [DeAndre] Hopkins get frustrated. He puts pressure on himself to be perfect, today it was route running. #Texans

Coaches were giving him extra coaching. AJ would also help him with some things.

Caught a nice Schaub to Hopkins 30 yard throw. Worried he wouldn't get to it, and S help got there fast, but his ball.

 

[Texans_Chick]

I'm really liking what I'm hearing about Keyshawn. There was a lot of talk about him last year all through camp & we got to see some of what they were talking about when the season started.

If he's progressing, builds on what he did last year & gaining the trust of Kubiak & Schaub.... that's a good thing. That's a real good thing.

I was not as encouraged on Martin last year during practice as others were. Does look better this year.

Get worried some that he gets bumped off routes from incidental contact.

In practice, getting to a lot more bread and butter balls.

 

[mussop]

I meant to focus on the Dline today, but I got caught up watching the secondary today.

I did write about Mitchell in my last blog post. In sum, Mitchell looks physically good but he looked physically good last season. You can't tell a lot about dline improvement when they are just wearing shorts, not really wrecking shop anyways. But that I'm not buying big improvement because it hasn't already happened after two years of Wade, and that his numbers last year were not encouraging. And that I didn't like the way the defense played when Cody had to go out with a rib injury--maybe that was a product of just being thin at dline but I'm not optimistic on this point.

Wade has had all-pro guys at DT. And JJ has played well when he moves inside. But as for the rest of the guys who are the DT on the line. Not seeing all pro play. Sonny Harris had some nice moments last year. He got hurt I think on Tues with a foot issue during a drill.

Thanks TC! Man I'm worried about the NT position. I really wish we would bring in Seymour or Hampton.

 

[Texans_Chick]

Thanks TC! Man I'm worried about the NT position. I really wish we would bring in Seymour or Hampton.

Do you see that happening?

I don't see that happening.

Will say I saw some flash plays by Jared Crick today.

But yeah, this is on my mental list of Things I'm Watching Because I'm Concerned.

Of course, every team's fans have their own issues.

 

[Playoffs]

Pictures courtesy http://www.stateofthetexans.com/ https://twitter.com/PatDStat

Braman snapping Watt

Swearinger pre-practice

 

[Number19]

...We've already seen that last year. Reed & Whitney on the ends isn't going to get us the pass rush we need. We need to get better...

I don't think this is an accurate assessment as regards Mercilus. Whitney became a starter because of injuries late in the season. This year, Philips will design his defense to take full advantage of his skill set. That, plus a year's experience behind him, should make for a good season for the 2nd year player. Maybe a very good season.

 

[EVOLVIST]

I meant to focus on the Dline today, but I got caught up watching the secondary today.

I did write about Mitchell in my last blog post. In sum, Mitchell looks physically good but he looked physically good last season. You can't tell a lot about dline improvement when they are just wearing shorts, not really wrecking shop anyways. But that I'm not buying big improvement because it hasn't already happened after two years of Wade, and that his numbers last year were not encouraging.

Except, Steph, that in your blog you cited that Earl Mitchell was ranked the 47th best DT in the NFL, with only 3 starts and spot duty in 2012. That’s 31 tackles for Mitchell in 2012 to Cody’s 17 tackles in 12 starts. I wouldn’t call that Mitchell’s writing-on-the-wall; still, as an adjective, “encouraging” would be my pick of the litter.

The stats don’t make Mitchell an all-pro baller. Indeed, they might be more an indictment on Cody’s play when we boil it to bone. Maybe. See, it’s difficult to make projections, yet with Mitchell I ran the ticker and I was surprised at what a quiet little bruiser he’s been as a non-starter. To wit:

Earl Mitchell - Career stats - 86 tackles - 2 sacks - 1FF – 4 Pdef. 3 Seasons – 3 starts

Shuan Cody - Career stats - 190 tackles - 3 sacks - 2 FFs – 9Pdef. 8 Seasons – 68 starts

What I’m missing is TFL stats; nevertheless, I would call Mitchell an upgrade, and if we deem him an upgrade, by inference, I would say he’s at least “encouraging” going into 2013.

I know it’s goofy; moreover, I hated the Mitchell pick at #81 when we could have had Geno Atkins at #120; yet, just for giggles I ran Mitchell’s numbers at his current pace over a 12 year career (as a backup, mind you) and I came up with 344 tackles and 8 sacks. That looks a lot like Casey Hampton, who over 12 years is at 373 tackles and 9 sacks, as a starter with 161 more starts than Mitchell.

I hate to nitpick, but I think I’m On The Nose with this one – at least as far as potential.

 

[thunderkyss]

I don't think this is an accurate assessment as regards Mercilus. Whitney became a starter because of injuries late in the season. This year, Philips will design his defense to take full advantage of his skill set. That, plus a year's experience behind him, should make for a good season for the 2nd year player. Maybe a very good season.

Well, I'm not saying Mercilus alone won't get it done. I'm saying Mercilus & Reed won't get it done.

I think odds are better that Mercilus & Braman, Mercilus & Montgomery, Mercilus & player to be determined... is better than going with Mercilus & Reed again.

I like Reed, I think he's a fine player & deserves to be on the field. Just not at OLB.

 

[AngryNateFTW]

Today's OTA's!

As you know Texans have signed Sam Montgomery..

Don't know where Hopkins will end up as a career, but the #Texans have never had a player of his caliber opposite of Johnson. #Texans

WR is one of the toughest positions to transition to from college to NFL, but Hopkins is doing everything, in my eyes, to get ready.

Today was one of the first day I saw Hopkins get frustrated. He puts pressure on himself to be perfect, today it was route running.

He would go back in line to get that extra rep to get it right. That to me says a lot about Hopkins. Always asking questions.

Punter update: Lechler was dropping bombs today. Makes a different noise off his foot. Hard time not to be impressed

Cushing working on side field. Looks good,moving well. Not a minute goes by where he is not rehabbing or doing something productive

Arian Foster has been quiet with the media. Looks focused on the field and not much to say in general

Roc Carmichael once again had good day. His closing speed on routes looks good. Has impressed with his coverage ability.

Talked to JJo after practice, said Eddie Pleasant has turned into a NFL player over the offseason.

Hard not to like the early start for Keshawn Martin. Looks much more confident and making a nice compliment to #80 and #10.

Brooks Reed showed some coverage skills today. Made some tough throws for the quarterbacks.

The #Texans TEs look good. Daniels, Graham and Griffin caught everything. Position group looks strong.

Delano Johnson looks very good at his new position. His ability to run at 290 lbs. makes him an intersting fit at DE.

Dennis Johnson just keeps impressing. He is able to turn corners with ease with the football in his hands.

Cierre Wood had a good running day. Looked good with his vision, but still work to do on pass protection.

The secondary was on top of their game. JJo was solid in coverage and had Andre and DeAndre working hard for everything today.

If this would have been live Kareem Jackson and Danieal Manning would have had some wide receivers laid out. Both had good days.

TJ Yates looked good throwing the football. Made some big throws to Martin and Hopkins.

Jackson, McCain and Joseph talked about the "family" mentality they have in the secondary. All work well together.

Joseph also talked highly of Brandon Harris and Roc Carmichael and the big strides they have taken over the offseason.

Enjoy!

 

[mussop]

Except, Steph, that in your blog you cited that Earl Mitchell was ranked the 47th best DT in the NFL, with only 3 starts and spot duty in 2012. That’s 31 tackles for Mitchell in 2012 to Cody’s 17 tackles in 12 starts. I wouldn’t call that Mitchell’s writing-on-the-wall; still, as an adjective, “encouraging” would be my pick of the litter.

The stats don’t make Mitchell an all-pro baller. Indeed, they might be more an indictment on Cody’s play when we boil it to bone. Maybe. See, it’s difficult to make projections, yet with Mitchell I ran the ticker and I was surprised at what a quiet little bruiser he’s been as a non-starter. To wit:

Earl Mitchell - Career stats - 86 tackles - 2 sacks - 1FF – 4 Pdef. 3 Seasons – 3 starts

Shuan Cody - Career stats - 190 tackles - 3 sacks - 2 FFs – 9Pdef. 8 Seasons – 68 starts

What I’m missing is TFL stats; nevertheless, I would call Mitchell an upgrade, and if we deem him an upgrade, by inference, I would say he’s at least “encouraging” going into 2013.

I know it’s goofy; moreover, I hated the Mitchell pick at #81 when we could have had Geno Atkins at #120; yet, just for giggles I ran Mitchell’s numbers at his current pace over a 12 year career (as a backup, mind you) and I came up with 344 tackles and 8 sacks. That looks a lot like Casey Hampton, who over 12 years is at 373 tackles and 9 sacks, as a starter with 161 more starts than Mitchell.

I hate to nitpick, but I think I’m On The Nose with this one – at least as far as potential.

Put the stats down man they are making you goofy! Mitchell SUCKS with a capital S. At least he has so far. Maybe he can become something more who knows. But if you think you can multiply his stats and then compare him to Hampton, one of the top NT's in the league you are crazy. That is just silly!!

 

[mussop]

Do you see that happening?

I don't see that happening.

Will say I saw some flash plays by Jared Crick today.

But yeah, this is on my mental list of Things I'm Watching Because I'm Concerned.

Of course, every team's fans have their own issues.

No I don't see that happening. That is why I said I really wish. But they better keep those guys numbers on speed dial if Mitchell hasn't improved and the middle of our defense gets pounded to the point where they start getting wore out and injuries start to mount up.

 

[Texanmike02]

Except, Steph, that in your blog you cited that Earl Mitchell was ranked the 47th best DT in the NFL, with only 3 starts and spot duty in 2012. That’s 31 tackles for Mitchell in 2012 to Cody’s 17 tackles in 12 starts. I wouldn’t call that Mitchell’s writing-on-the-wall; still, as an adjective, “encouraging” would be my pick of the litter.

The stats don’t make Mitchell an all-pro baller. Indeed, they might be more an indictment on Cody’s play when we boil it to bone. Maybe. See, it’s difficult to make projections, yet with Mitchell I ran the ticker and I was surprised at what a quiet little bruiser he’s been as a non-starter. To wit:

Earl Mitchell - Career stats - 86 tackles - 2 sacks - 1FF – 4 Pdef. 3 Seasons – 3 starts

Shuan Cody - Career stats - 190 tackles - 3 sacks - 2 FFs – 9Pdef. 8 Seasons – 68 starts

What I’m missing is TFL stats; nevertheless, I would call Mitchell an upgrade, and if we deem him an upgrade, by inference, I would say he’s at least “encouraging” going into 2013.

I know it’s goofy; moreover, I hated the Mitchell pick at #81 when we could have had Geno Atkins at #120; yet, just for giggles I ran Mitchell’s numbers at his current pace over a 12 year career (as a backup, mind you) and I came up with 344 tackles and 8 sacks. That looks a lot like Casey Hampton, who over 12 years is at 373 tackles and 9 sacks, as a starter with 161 more starts than Mitchell.

I hate to nitpick, but I think I’m On The Nose with this one – at least as far as potential.

I think you should be punched On The Nose for abusing statistics like that.

Mike

 

[EVOLVIST]

Put the stats down man they are making you goofy! Mitchell SUCKS with a capital S. At least he has so far. Maybe he can become something more who knows. But if you think you can multiply his stats and then compare him to Hampton, one of the top NT's in the league you are crazy. That is just silly!!

Hey, ease up on the Cialis, killah. Tell your doctor if you've got an erection lasting longer than 4 hours.

All I'm saying is, for a non-starter his first three years, Mitchell has so far proved his doubters wrong, including myself, who bitched like a b!tch when we took him in the 3rd. I wouldn’t dare make the claim that Mitchell will reach the lofty heights of Big Snack, yet projections based upon stats are something the NFL pundits do all the time. Certainly there are too many variables, but hell, I thought it was obvious that the point of my write up was more of a comparison of Mitchell vs. Cody and how enthusiasm should abound over having a clear upgrade in Mitchell. The big question mark to me is not so much Mitchell, but who is going to back him up.

 

[EVOLVIST]

I think you should be punched On The Nose for abusing statistics like that.

Mike

Reading Comprehension: It's not just for grammer schoolers anymore.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Phillips has coached in his 35 years in the NFL (info from ProFootballReference.com):

Nose tackles under Wade Phillips

Jay Ratliff, Dallas Cowboys, 2007-10 (6-4, 293)*
Jamal Williams, San Diego Chargers, 2004-06 (6-3, 348)*
Ed Jasper, Atlanta Falcons, 2002-03 (6-2, 293)
Ted Washington, Buffalo Bills, 1995-2000 (6-5, 365)*
Greg Kragen, Denver Broncos, 1989-91 (6-3, 263)*
Tony Elliott, New Orleans Saints, 1985 (6-2, 282)
Derland Moore, Saints, 1982-84 (6-4, 250)
Jerry Boyarsky, Saints, 1981 (6-3, 290)
Monte Bennett, Saints, 1981 (6-3, 265)
Curley Culp, Houston Oilers, 1976-80 (6-2, 265)*

*Indicates Pro Bowler



Curley "the Stump" Culp was a mountain size in his day, 6 Pro Bowls.

Kragen lighter weight at actually 267 (still not that light for 20+ years ago, only single Pro Bowler.

Ted Washington mountain size in any day was between 365 and 400 pounds, 4 Pro Bowls.

Jamal Williams mountain size at 348, 4 Pro Bowls

Jay Ratliff relatively "light" at 293, 4 Pro Bowls

Ratliff and his elite skills are definitely an outlier even in Wade's career...............and Earl Mitchell is no Ratliff, nor has he shown anything that can make one believe that he can ever be a Ratliff.

The Big Man in the middle has shown superiority for a reason, the same reason we need one on this team. Wade needs to stop trying to prove a null equation.

 

[Texans_Chick]

Except, Steph, that in your blog you cited that Earl Mitchell was ranked the 47th best DT in the NFL, with only 3 starts and spot duty in 2012. That’s 31 tackles for Mitchell in 2012 to Cody’s 17 tackles in 12 starts. I wouldn’t call that Mitchell’s writing-on-the-wall; still, as an adjective, “encouraging” would be my pick of the litter.

The stats don’t make Mitchell an all-pro baller. Indeed, they might be more an indictment on Cody’s play when we boil it to bone. Maybe. See, it’s difficult to make projections, yet with Mitchell I ran the ticker and I was surprised at what a quiet little bruiser he’s been as a non-starter. To wit:

Earl Mitchell - Career stats - 86 tackles - 2 sacks - 1FF – 4 Pdef. 3 Seasons – 3 starts

Shuan Cody - Career stats - 190 tackles - 3 sacks - 2 FFs – 9Pdef. 8 Seasons – 68 starts

What I’m missing is TFL stats; nevertheless, I would call Mitchell an upgrade, and if we deem him an upgrade, by inference, I would say he’s at least “encouraging” going into 2013.

I know it’s goofy; moreover, I hated the Mitchell pick at #81 when we could have had Geno Atkins at #120; yet, just for giggles I ran Mitchell’s numbers at his current pace over a 12 year career (as a backup, mind you) and I came up with 344 tackles and 8 sacks. That looks a lot like Casey Hampton, who over 12 years is at 373 tackles and 9 sacks, as a starter with 161 more starts than Mitchell.

I hate to nitpick, but I think I’m On The Nose with this one – at least as far as potential.

Yes, as my blog post noted, Mitchell played better than Cody last year. Though to be fair to Cody, his play decreased after he was hurt.

But if you look at Mitchell's game to game measures by PFF, they've been pretty marginal every year.

And when Cody went out to injury, and the Dline rotation was thin, the defense looked unfortunate. Mitchell's individual grades went up with more opportunity, but not great, and the defense had two of its worst games.

As my blog post noted, my comment wasn't meant as a pro-Cody get back post. It is more of an observation that there has been little that I've seen to suggest that once Mitchell has more snaps, he will play much better. You can extrapolate his stats, but that can be hard to do because sometimes more snaps exposes a player (OTOH, sometimes opportunity allows them to thrive).

All I know is. 1. He looks fit. 2. He looked fit last year. 3. Wade's system can be good to DTs and they can make Pro Bowl. 4. Not seeing any Pro Bowl guys on this line other than Mr. Watt. 5. I hope I'm totally wrong on Mitchell.

 

[infantrycak]

Curley "the Stump" Culp was a mountain size in his day, 6 Pro Bowls.

Que? Even in his day he was undersized. Randy White went 260 lbs - 9 pro-bowls, 7 1st team all pro, hall of fame. The Cowboys drafted him with the idea of moving him to LB because he was too small for DT.

Ted Washington mountain size in any day was between 365 and 400 pounds, 4 Pro Bowls.

Jamal Williams mountain size at 348, 4 Pro Bowls

Jay Ratliff relatively "light" at 293, 4 Pro Bowls

Ratliff and his elite skills are definitely an outlier even in Wade's career...............and Earl Mitchell is no Ratliff, nor has he shown anything that can make one believe that he can ever be a Ratliff.

The Big Man in the middle has shown superiority for a reason, the same reason we need one on this team. Wade needs to stop trying to prove a null equation.

Three examples and you choose to throw out the light one (and frankly defined out the other light guy which would have tied things). To me that looks like Wade working with either style and when the talent is there it shines.

There are two possible conclusions here (1) Wade doesn't want a big body or (2) Wade doesn't have as much influence over the draft/free agency as people claim.

 

[Texans_Chick]

Phillips has coached in his 35 years in the NFL (info from ProFootballReference.com):

Nose tackles under Wade Phillips

Jay Ratliff, Dallas Cowboys, 2007-10 (6-4, 293)*
Jamal Williams, San Diego Chargers, 2004-06 (6-3, 348)*
Ed Jasper, Atlanta Falcons, 2002-03 (6-2, 293)
Ted Washington, Buffalo Bills, 1995-2000 (6-5, 365)*
Greg Kragen, Denver Broncos, 1989-91 (6-3, 263)*
Tony Elliott, New Orleans Saints, 1985 (6-2, 282)
Derland Moore, Saints, 1982-84 (6-4, 250)
Jerry Boyarsky, Saints, 1981 (6-3, 290)
Monte Bennett, Saints, 1981 (6-3, 265)
Curley Culp, Houston Oilers, 1976-80 (6-2, 265)*

*Indicates Pro Bowler



Curley "the Stump" Culp was a mountain size in his day, 6 Pro Bowls.

Kragen lighter weight at actually 267 (still not that light for 20+ years ago, only single Pro Bowler.

Ted Washington mountain size in any day was between 365 and 400 pounds, 4 Pro Bowls.

Jamal Williams mountain size at 348, 4 Pro Bowls

Jay Ratliff relatively "light" at 293, 4 Pro Bowls

Ratliff and his elite skills are definitely an outlier even in Wade's career...............and Earl Mitchell is no Ratliff, nor has he shown anything that can make one believe that he can ever be a Ratliff.

The Big Man in the middle has shown superiority for a reason, the same reason we need one on this team. Wade needs to stop trying to prove a null equation.

Actually, if you look at the top 10 DTs of 2013 as listed by PFF, most of them are in the 300 lb range. Planetoid guys who can move are uncommon, and they sometimes are prone to injury.

In a league that promotes passing, DTs who can move are valued more than guys who just stuff the run.

The flipside is that if you have a guy who can do both, that is a competitive advantage because few teams have those guys.

 

[EVOLVIST]

And therein lays the rub, Doc. I’m not exactly seeing your weight correlation, but I am seeing a list of quite effective penetrating NTs, which Mitchell is certainly not. I believe Mitchell has shown more than Cody that if you want a guy fleet of foot who can diagnose the run and not get gashed too much, then we probably have that in Mitchell.

If, on the other hand, we want the complete 3-4 NT who can both play the run and get to the QB on a consistent basis, then we probably do not have him on roster (unless it’s Chris Jones who is known for his one-gap penetrating style – but he’s even more unproven than Mitchell).

I’m enthusiastic that Mitchell will do a better job than Mr. Funny Man. I’m enthusiastic that Mitchell can do his job and anchor the fort without us getting killed up the middle (time will tell).

Is Wade really cutting against his own grain, though? Or is he simply playing with the hand dealt him? Remember, Mitchell was a product of the ol’ Frank Bush/Rick Smith brain trust. So, where do these one-gap penetrating NTs come from? The 7th round like Ratliff? The 4th round like Atkins (a 4-3 guy), or the 6th round like Jones?

Or like, * gasp * the Bleacher Report says about Chris Jones: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1620831-chris-jones-to-texans-how-does-dt-fit-with-houston

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Que? Even in his day he was undersized. Randy White went 260 lbs - 9 pro-bowls, 7 1st team all pro, hall of fame. The Cowboys drafted him with the idea of moving him to LB because he was too small for DT.

I know that you grew up in Dallas with Randy White. I grew up in Kansas City with Curley Culp. Culp was actually considered short (measured out at 6'1") for his position, far from light (265) in his day. Buck Buchanan, considered large played next to him at 270, but was 6'7".

 

[mussop]

And therein lays the rub, Doc. I’m not exactly seeing your weight correlation, but I am seeing a list of quite effective penetrating NTs, which Mitchell is certainly not. I believe Mitchell has shown more than Cody that if you want a guy fleet of foot who can diagnose the run and not get gashed too much, then we probably have that in Mitchell.

If, on the other hand, we want the complete 3-4 NT who can both play the run and get to the QB on a consistent basis, then we probably do not have him on roster (unless it’s Chris Jones who is known for his one-gap penetrating style – but he’s even more unproven than Mitchell).

I’m enthusiastic that Mitchell will do a better job than Mr. Funny Man. I’m enthusiastic that Mitchell can do his job and anchor the fort without us getting killed up the middle (time will tell).

Is Wade really cutting against his own grain, though? Or is he simply playing with the hand dealt him? Remember, Mitchell was a product of the ol’ Frank Bush/Rick Smith brain trust. So, where do these one-gap penetrating NTs come from? The 7th round like Ratliff? The 4th round like Atkins (a 4-3 guy), or the 6th round like Jones?

Or like, * gasp * the Bleacher Report says about Chris Jones: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1620831-chris-jones-to-texans-how-does-dt-fit-with-houston

Cody was below average and yet Mitchell never could beat him out. That should tell you all you need to know. I foresee Mitchell taking Walters place as the new Texans fans whipping boy. I hope I'm wrong and he light it up but I just don't see it.