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Peyton Manning Derby (Signs with Broncos)
- Thread starter Texan Asylum
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HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
I saw that, but didn't post because I'm pretty sure he's getting us mixed up with the titans.
BIG TORO
TERADACTYL #23
Probably so. Either that or he is Manning is trying to up his $$$.
ckhouston
Veteran
"Omar Kelly
Omar Kelly
Also In Miami Dolphins
Peyton Manning to visit Houston now!!!! Manning is turning into quite the home wrecker. Wonder how quickly Matt Schaub gets extended if Manning doesn't sign with the Texans now. If the Texans cut him loose to land Manning pass the Dolphins Schaub and a biscuit. "
http://www.sulia.com/channel/nfl-fr...6-d9e6-4c07-b56b-1e3befcfb442/?source=twitter
Señor Stan
El Guapo
That's awesome. I just posted a poll in the NFL section to predict Manning's effectiveness this year. I of course predicted he would not play again. :kubepalm:
False Start
On # 69
I saw that too, but I think he might have meant Titans. That aggravates me that people still mistake us for the Tits.
DonnyMost
lol football :D
Stokley is a close friend of Manning's, so take it with a grain of salt, but if reports like this keep surfacing, the bidding war may go nuclear soon.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20156530/stokley-peyton-manning-throwing-like-he-did-six
Stokley: Peyton Manning throwing like he did six years ago
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20156530/stokley-peyton-manning-throwing-like-he-did-six
Stokley: Peyton Manning throwing like he did six years ago
Premier
Rookie
I saw that too, but I think he might have meant Titans. That aggravates me that people still mistake us for the Tits.
not the case, mentioned peyton plans to visit houston, then directly mentions possible matt schuab destinations...
ThaShark316
#28
I think his SOURCE got them mixed up.
Premier
Rookie
anyone know whats up with this..
Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter
Cowboys lose $10 million in cap space, Redskins lose $36 million in space. Can split it over 2012 and 2013 any way they want. More at ESPN.
All that money goes to 28 other teams -- $1.6 million each -- except for Saints and Raiders, who don't get any but don't lose any.
Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter
Cowboys lose $10 million in cap space, Redskins lose $36 million in space. Can split it over 2012 and 2013 any way they want. More at ESPN.
All that money goes to 28 other teams -- $1.6 million each -- except for Saints and Raiders, who don't get any but don't lose any.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
It's for overspending in 2010 the uncapped year. The NFL section has a thread about it.
DonnyMost
lol football :D
Edit: dutch got it
badboy
Hall of Fame
evidently a desire to sign him.
ckhouston
Veteran
It has been said that Manning wanted to come to Houston, if we want him we have him. If we decide not to even talk to him, and he goes to the Tacks and wins the division next year, McNair should fire Kubes and Smith and make Wade head coach. Im not even talking about at the end of the season. If we are at the halfway point of the season and Manning is in TN and they are ahead of us I go on a firing spree if I am McNair ... but that's just me.
It has been said that Manning wanted to come to Houston, if we want him we have him. If we decide not to even talk to him, and he goes to the Tacks and wins the division next year, McNair should fire Kubes and Smith and make Wade head coach. Im not even talking about at the end of the season. If we are at the halfway point of the season and Manning is in TN and they are ahead of us I go on a firing spree if I am McNair ... but that's just me.
Suppose it was McNair who decided NOT to contact Peyton?
If McNair wants to "court" Peyton, it will be done.
If Manning somehow ends up in Tennessee and they're ahead of us in the division, then he has only himself to blame.
Personally, I don't believe Manning will end up with the Titans nor do I believe that we will trail the Titans in the upcoming season's race for the division crown. But that's just me...
ThaShark316
#28
I'd love for him to come here, I just don't see the Texans DOING it. That's cool with me, btw. I'm not like one of these idiots around here.
No matter what we do, we winnin' anyway.
No matter what we do, we winnin' anyway.
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
I think we should at least show some interest in him. If for no other reason than to get the other teams like Denver and Tennessee to up their bidding and put them worse financial shape. 
badboy
Hall of Fame
Almost all consider Manning an upgrade over Schaub.
Manning has been cleared by two doctors & has started working out; Schaub has not yet.
If Schaub is traded, we have at minimum $7m to offer Peyton.
Schaub could bring significant draft pick(s).
Trading Schaub eliminates a Mario type scene during or after Matt's 2012 final contract year.
Manning could bring a WR with him that eliminates need for WR2.
Manning has been cleared by two doctors & has started working out; Schaub has not yet.
If Schaub is traded, we have at minimum $7m to offer Peyton.
Schaub could bring significant draft pick(s).
Trading Schaub eliminates a Mario type scene during or after Matt's 2012 final contract year.
Manning could bring a WR with him that eliminates need for WR2.
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
It's a real shame that Washington got slammed with that cap penalty b/c they were THE PRIME candidate to trade for Schaub. Wait, now that I think about it didn't they already trade up to #2 overall to get RGIII (or Luck)? Regardless, they were the perfect trade partner IMO.
What teams would you call first to try and broker something? Cleveland, Miami?? Any NFC teams?
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
Yeah, Washington traded for the #2 pick. Cleveland & Miami would be possible landing spots for Schaub. Over in the NFC there is Seattle and Arizona.
RTP2110
All Pro
Peyton Manning Update: Broncos, Manning's Agent Talk Contract, According To Report
http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-b...-broncos-manning-contract-talks-titans-texans
http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-b...-broncos-manning-contract-talks-titans-texans
badboy
Hall of Fame
I think Cleveland would be the best choice as I doubt we could get Miami's first without giving up something else. Dolphins are in much better shape than Cleveland imo at QB. STephen Morris will not participate in spring training see:http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...s-is-out-for-spring-depth-chart-released.html
and Cleveland should use their #4 on OT. Their 22nd is perfect and could guarantee us Wright.
GP
Go Texans!
Ah, here it is! The ever-popular "Talk contract figures with lesser team to drive up price among the better teams" angle.
Nicely played, Peyton. Might as well get an idea of what a team like the Broncos would offer...then you know what to leverage from future teams. Has to have a starting point.
ckhouston
Veteran
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
First?
No way anyone gives up a first for Schaub ... we would be lucky to get a third.
Seriously. Schaub healthy is worth a late 1st at best. Schaub gimpy is worth a 3rd or so. Most teams wouldn't trade for him right now anyways. Miami would probably give us a 3rd or 4th for him, but I think that's the best we could do assuming they miss out on Flynn or Manning.
ckhouston
Veteran
If Denver signs Manning maybe Miami would go after Tebow. It would make perfect business sense.
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
I hadn't even considered that connection. Nice.
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Poor Schaub. Always taken for granted. 
I'd love to have Manning here. As far as Schaub's trade value, he's most certainly worth a first, but if we were to get Manning, no team would likely give up a first solely on the supply-and-demand principles of economics: the Texans being able to afford parting with Schaub would instantly lower his value, as teams don't have to quite play so much hard ball. Cleveland is not going to trade their late first-rounder for Schaub. They're a team that is very much of the never take any chances ever. It's why they lost out on the RGIII race when the opportunity was sitting right in their laps. Miami is not going to give up their first round pick to a team that took Manning from them for that same team's discard, so scratch that. Jets just extended Sanchez, so take them out. Ravens will likely stick with Flacco. Seahawks are a possibility I suppose.
I'd love to have Manning here. As far as Schaub's trade value, he's most certainly worth a first, but if we were to get Manning, no team would likely give up a first solely on the supply-and-demand principles of economics: the Texans being able to afford parting with Schaub would instantly lower his value, as teams don't have to quite play so much hard ball. Cleveland is not going to trade their late first-rounder for Schaub. They're a team that is very much of the never take any chances ever. It's why they lost out on the RGIII race when the opportunity was sitting right in their laps. Miami is not going to give up their first round pick to a team that took Manning from them for that same team's discard, so scratch that. Jets just extended Sanchez, so take them out. Ravens will likely stick with Flacco. Seahawks are a possibility I suppose.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Well Tebow would have to be traded, so I doubt he will have much say in it. If Miami, TB or Jax is willing to send some picks for Tebow, then God help them...
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Pantherstang84
@rolisrgti06
610 is saying the reason for Manning's visit to our fair city is to visit the. The flaming meatball's owner and their coach. I just don't see how you discard Schaub and go for a guy who hasn't taken a snap in over a year and has had 1.2.3.4 neck surgeries over the last year and a half. This scenario has visions of Montana in KC dancing in my head.
badboy
Hall of Fame
You list reasons not to get only a third and I'll list those for a first and bet mine are more likely. Look, teams desperately need QBs. Miami & Cleveland are two remaining that did not get Luck or RG3. Few people think Tannehill is a high first but why are so many mocking him as high as top 10? Because he plays the position. Matt was considered a top 8 QB prior to his injury. One of the 610 guys in afternoon Friday the 9th went thru a check list of QBs they would take over Matt; he was again #8. Schaub should bring a mid to late first, especially if trade made on draft day as pressure builds. Look what an untested RG3 brought, three firsts and a second and you think Matt is worth only a third? Doesn't sound like an unbiased evaluation on your part.First?
No way anyone gives up a first for Schaub ... we would be lucky to get a third.
ckhouston
Veteran
Injury prone.
Injury prone.
Oh yeah, and injury prone.
Not mobile.
Doesn't have a strong arm.
Not accurate (look at the tape not the stats, most passes require receiver adjustment).
May never play again.
Injury prone.
ckhouston
Veteran
Montana knocked the Oilers out of the playoffs with KC, so how is that comparison working out for you?
As far as how you discard a mediocre injury prone QB for the greatest to ever play the game ... yeah, why would you do that?
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Mmmkay...
GhostRaider2007
Practice Squad
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
TEXANRED
Texan-American
No b/c we are talking wide receivers we are talking QB's. And IMO it is easier to lose a receiver for a few games than it is to lose your QB.
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
I believe the Titans still have an office in Houston Galleria Area... at least they still did just a few years ago.Mmmkay...
Ha... that is funny!
badboy
Hall of Fame
So Brown will depend on Colt McCoy again?Poor Schaub. Always taken for granted.
I'd love to have Manning here. As far as Schaub's trade value, he's most certainly worth a first, but if we were to get Manning, no team would likely give up a first solely on the supply-and-demand principles of economics: the Texans being able to afford parting with Schaub would instantly lower his value, as teams don't have to quite play so much hard ball. Cleveland is not going to trade their late first-rounder for Schaub. They're a team that is very much of the never take any chances ever. It's why they lost out on the RGIII race when the opportunity was sitting right in their laps. Miami is not going to give up their first round pick to a team that took Manning from them for that same team's discard, so scratch that. Jets just extended Sanchez, so take them out. Ravens will likely stick with Flacco. Seahawks are a possibility I suppose.
Pantherstang84
@rolisrgti06
Mmmkay...
mmmmkay Guess where Bud Adams lives in the offseason Einstein?
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Montana knocked the Oilers out of the playoffs with KC, so how is that comparison working out for you?
As far as how you discard a mediocre injury prone QB for the greatest to ever play the game ... yeah, why would you do that?
And what did KC go on to do after that? The Houston Texans have won more playoff games than KC since Montana knocked the Oilers out.
We get that you don't like Matt Schaub. And all I can say is that I'm glad you are not in the organization and have anything to do with personnel.
DonnyMost
lol football :D
LOL
Yeah dudes, screw the stats that say he's one of the top 5 best downfield passers in the NFL, that's totally on the WRs!
Boy, that's a good one, man... seriously... tears over here... needed that... thanks bro.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Heck you can say screw the stats and just look around the league. Eli Manning doesn't get his first ring without being bailed out by his WR. Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne have been making diving catches for Peyton for over a decade.
In the end you simply don't amass 18,000 yards passing without the stats reflecting the accuracy. For the record - career stats:
Peyton Manning - 64.9% completions, 7.6 ypa.
Eli Manning - 58.4%, 7.0 ypa.
Ben Roethlisberger - 63.1%, 8.0 ypa.
Tom Brady - 63.8%, 7.5 ypa.
Aaron Rodgers - 65.4%, 8.2 ypa.
Drew Brees - 65.9%, 7.4 ypa.
Matt Schaub - 64.3%, 7.9 ypa
So let's see, that is 10 superbowl rings and only one QB who can claim both a higher completion percentage and longer average per attempt. Yeah that's the hallmark of an inaccurate, mediocre QB.