DFLO; first as I said it is opinion, but evaluating Upshaw from # 2 college below Vinny Curry? I am a huge Curry fan & am mocking him to Houston round 2 on the MB under thread "Defense heavy draft" but ahead of Upshaw? I think you are only one in nation to do that.
I think the general consensus right now is that Curry's a mid first round guy and Upshaw is late first early second. I wouldn't really say I'm the only one with Curry that high, in fact most people I've seen have him that high right now.
Cooper on the other hand you are right, haven't seen a lot of hype for him yet, part of the reason why I stuck him in the first. Rumor is that he's he might be staying for his senior year, so it may be a moot point anyway. Good guy to keep an eye on for 2013.
For the first time this draft can really be about BPA. Amazing feeling.
Agree with most of what you said in your post. Be thankful your team is in this position where it has options instead of needs and can thus go BPA.
Thanks for responding, didn't mean to give you a hard time.
1. There's a good chance RG3 could over take Barkley as QB2 in this draft. I see RG3 as a better version of Vick. (Smarter, better work ethic, less baggage, same athletic ability.) He would be my 2nd rated QB.
Barkley, Reminds me of Eli Manning, he may take a little while to come into his own. But you can win a SB with him. He's a true leader which is invaluable IMHO.Both of these guys are QB's that are worth giving up the farm for. They both have a chance to be as good or better than Luck.
2. Some team will get turned on by Couples measubles at the combine and take him much higher than he deserves based on his on field production. I see him as more of a Bowers than a Peppers.
3. Barron = Jim Leonhard, great player very productive, always in the right place at the right time. But if I'm spending a 1st rd pick on a S I'm looking for Polamalu or Berry. Barron is comparable to TJ McDonald, both are 2nd/3rd rd picks. (Brian Dawkins) Not a bad pick but not a 1st rd pick.
4.Agree with you about Miller. But when was the last time the Packers took a RB high in the draft. I dont see things changing this yr.
5. I know nothing about Cooper, thanks for bringing him to my attention. I will look into him more deeply.
Thanks for the feedback, didn't mean to give you a hard time. Looking forward to your thoughts on my evaluations.
No worries man. Regarding Barkley, he reminds me more of Jimmy Clausen than of Eli Manning. What he's got going for him is that he's a 3 year starter at USC, and put up some fantastic numbers this season. He wont wow anyone physically, but he has enough arm strength. I think he benefits some from the talent around him, alot of his deep throws have way too much air under them and rely on the WR to make the play (just like Clausen) which he can get by with at USC because of the talent. He's also got a QB-friendly coach and a talented offensive line. I still have a lot of questions about Barkley and don't see him as a sure-fire pro.
2. Not only because of his measurables but also his production last year where he was at times outright dominant. Remember heading into the season he was the consensus #1 Senior. That doesn't just go away.
3. I don't see the comparison there, again different opinions, doesn't mean either of us is right or wrong. Barron's much bigger than Leonard - he's got good NFL safety size already and he's got great pedigree. Lacks the coverage awareness/instincts of Leonard but he can make plays.
4. True, although they did take a couple of 2nd rounder RBs recently IIRC. They have been trying to address that position, just not in the first like you said.
Perry I need to watch more film on. Didn't jump out at me the few time's I've seen him play this season.
Upshaw is not a great athlete but he's a build, tough LB with great instincts. Alabama uses him as their rusher, but he's much more versatile. He can cover, jam the TE, stop the run. Don't underestimate the value of playing for National Title twice as well - he's a proven winner.
Curry I would like to see more lower body power/explosion generated but he does a nice job of using his hands. He's got good upper body strength from what I've seen. If you're looking for a 3-4 OLB, Curry might be more suited to that side whereas Upshaw is more suited to the inside in a 3-4.
