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Mario Hurt - Out for Season

dalemurphy said:
If the Texans can't win the division this year, Kubiak needs to be fired and replaced by someone competent. I'll still like the guy, but I won't be able to defend his inability to get this team to the playoffs. The division is too ripe for the taking. Tennessee is the only competition (and that's being generous) and they've lost one of their best players as well from injury.
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So Tennessee loses one of their best players & they are a weaker team.. not even considered good competition.

We lose one of our best players... & we should win the division no matter what?

I'm just not following.
 
steelbtexan said:
If it's me I franchise MW trade him for picks. (1st/3rd) and use the $$$$ saved in FA on a WR2 and a CB2. But that's just me.
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Totally agree with this. Mario hasn't shown enough for the Texans (due to injuries/disappearing in games the last 6 years) to warrant the huge contract he'll certainly sign with the Jets or Eagles, etc...

Franchise and trade--this is the best option.
 
80tothezone said:
I think the OL knows they got schallacked(sp) and they come out with a purpose on Sunday. I am expecting a marcelles wallace after he was abused in pulp fiction
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I am expecting Ngata and Cody to abuse our interior Oline. Ngata's had a field day with us in the past. I think we've gotten a little better up front, but so have they by adding Cody. In addition to those two, there will be blitzes from everywhere considering how bad Schaub is when blitzed.
 
Isn't Mario under contract right now? If so, how does franchising and trading Mario help us this season? Franchising is only an offseason option.
 
HOU-TEX said:
I am expecting Ngata and Cody to abuse our interior Oline. Ngata's had a field day with us in the past. I think we've gotten a little better up front, but so have they by adding Cody. In addition to those two, there will be blitzes from everywhere considering how bad Schaub is when blitzed.
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They had Cody when we played them last year.
 
HOU-TEX said:
I am expecting Ngata and Cody to abuse our interior Oline. Ngata's had a field day with us in the past. I think we've gotten a little better up front, but so have they by adding Cody. In addition to those two, there will be blitzes from everywhere considering how bad Schaub is when blitzed.
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With big boys, you have to make them defend the boundry. Get that 400 pound **** and 360 pound **** playing the stretch every 3rd play and see how long they are active.
 
BigBull17 said:
With big boys, you have to make them defend the boundry. Get that 400 pound **** and 360 pound **** playing the stretch every 3rd play and see how long they are active.
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Ngata had no apparent problems against the stretch run the last time we faced them. Why would he now
 
mussop said:
Facts yeh right. Funny also how you call people stat mongers yet you try and use stats to prove alot of your points and seldom have the facts right when you do. For instance, we run a 3/4 so when you say d-line the fact is we only have three of them.

Also I'm not a hater or a nutt hugger (like you), I'm a realist. I don't develop my opinions from ESPN highlights or nationl media hype. It takes more than one or two good plays a game for me to lable a player great.

You may be right about the defense dropping off but you act as if it's a fact that it's going to happen. You probably hope it will just so you can act like you knew all along when in fact you don't have anymore a clue than any poster here.

Heres a fact for you. We lost a really good player and it sucks but you need to quit acting like it's the colts loosing manning. Will there be areas that Mario's strengths will be missed in? Sure! There are still 10 other starters that are going to be doing the same thing they have been doing all year and we drafted a guy (Reed) in the second round just for that position.

So sorry the guy you have a mancrush on go hurt but It's not the end of the world so quit getting your panties in a wad everytime says something about Mario that isn't worshiping him.
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You're not a hater but your are a realist? What the F ever. That's like saying "I'm not a kool aide drinker or a homer, I'm just optimistic about my team. "Realist" and hater are the same damn thing, sorry your too oblivious to understand the difference. Never said loosing Mario Williams was like loosing Manning, HOWEVA it is going to be a significant drop off in sacks and pressure with him gone, sorry it's gonna happen. I don't need to "hug nuts" to know who holds value on a team that I cheer for, nor do I need to be an assclown, no sorry a "realist" to know Mario Williams does a hell of allot more than most give him credit for and if you think some unproven rookie is going to step right in and everything will go on as planned, put the pipe down and walk away.

It takes more than 2 plays for you to label a player great, what about 2 pro bowls? Oh that's right, that isn't enough for the "realist" to call a player great, or even very very good, no a player like Mario Williams has to get 16+ sacks a year and push for the all time sack record each year for a player like Williams to be great, right.

Sorry dude, that isn't being a realist, that is being asinine and delusional as to how the game is played.

Oh and just so you know, Wade Phillips actually runs a 5-2 defense in which you have 5 on the line, even though two are called OLBs, they play a 9 technique, which is wide of the Tackle/TE, basically a standing DE. So when I say Mario is a DL, those who understand the system should know what I am referring to...
 
BullNation4Life said:
That's like saying "I'm not a kool aide drinker or a homer, I'm just optimistic about my team. "Realist" and hater are the same damn thing,
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Look, you're making it difficult for the rest of us homer's with arguments like this.

mussop said:
Also I'm not a hater or a nutt hugger (like you), I'm a realist. I don't develop my opinions from ESPN highlights or nationl media hype. It takes more than one or two good plays a game for me to lable a player great.

You may be right about the defense dropping off but you act as if it's a fact that it's going to happen.
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actually, that is pretty realistic.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm rewatching the game..... Mario got his sack early in the 1st qtr... that's also when he got hurt & left the game. Jason Campbell was sacked twice after that.... & he's taking a beating in the second half. Tim Jamison even dusted his cleats off with him a couple of times.

Plenty of pressure without the big guy.
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By that logic the offense has been been great without AJ because Walter has 2 TD catches since since he went down. Come on TK, you know neither of those stats tell the true story of how both the Offense and Defense have played since the injuries.
 
NitroGSXR said:
Isn't Mario under contract right now? If so, how does franchising and trading Mario help us this season? Franchising is only an offseason option.
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It doesn't

The Texans are screwed if Reed cant reasonably fill Williams shoes this season. Barwin will probably be playing alot in MW's spot and Reed will be playing alot in Barwins spot.
 
thunderkyss said:
If the issue is his inability to stay healthy, why would another team sign him for big money & give you a 1st & a 3rd for someone you don't want?
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MW probably wont get huge $$$$. (Peppers) But still get a really good contract. (J.Allen)

Some team will be lured in by MW's potential and if he can stay healthy (big if) and cut down on the partying. He will become the player we hoped he would become. I could see a team like New England for taking a chance on MW. They have an abundance of draft pick and the $$$$ to spend.
 
steelbtexan said:
MW probably wont get huge $$$$. (Peppers) But still get a really good contract. (J.Allen)

Some team will be lured in by MW's potential and if he can stay healthy (big if) and cut down on the partying. He will become the player we hoped he would become. I could see a team like New England for taking a chance on MW. They have an abundance of draft pick and the $$$$ to spend.
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Someone will offer him Peppers type money. He should be the best FA available.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
So, when do the Cowher signatures come back? Nothing you can really do about injuries, but Kubiak is not a good enough HC to will his team to more wins while the team goes through this injury bug.
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Here Ya go:

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I still can not effing believe we lost Mario for the entire season because of a gay ass pectoral muscle injury. Why the hell are we so friggin cursed?!?!?
 
thunderkyss said:
So Tennessee loses one of their best players & they are a weaker team.. not even considered good competition.

We lose one of our best players... & we should win the division no matter what?

I'm just not following.
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Tennessee has undergone a coaching change, a QB change, lost essential talent on both sides of the ball, and weren't great to begin with. Because they have veterans that know how to win, if the Texans fail, Tennessee could finish at 9-7.

Yes, the coaching staff, in year six, needs to prove it can get this thing done. Come on, TK! I love Kubiak but he needs to finish this division off without excuses.
 
dalemurphy said:
Yes, the coaching staff, in year six, needs to prove it can get this thing done. Come on, TK! I love Kubiak but he needs to finish this division off without excuses.
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I'm in total agreement. I just don't care how tough it's going to be & I don't think we should minimize the affects of our injuries.

The Titans can go 12-4, if we don't win the division, I still want Kubiak gone.
 
In other news....Carl Mauck just called in and called Mario Williams a WIMP on sports radio 610. Which leads me to believe that Mauck is either a moron or players aren't near as tough as they used to be...

Fot Mauck's sake, I'm going to say it's a mixture of both. Mario can't play with this injury and players back then just continued to play with rediculous injuries that would absolutely land today's players on I.R. Having said that, It was nice from hearing from Mauck again..we need more players like that on this team.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Ngata had no apparent problems against the stretch run the last time we faced them. Why would he now
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Didn't say it was the secret ingrediant, but it's a better idea than dives right at him. If you make him play sideline to sideline for 60 minutes, he will eventually run out of gas. In the NFL, one play can make a difference. He runs out of gas in the 4th quarter, good things can happen.
 
Carr Bombed said:
In other news....Carl Mauck just called in and called Mario Williams a WIMP on sports radio 610. Which leads me to believe that Mauck is either a moron or players aren't near as tough as they used to be...

Fot Mauck's sake, I'm going to say it's a mixture of both. Mario can't play with this injury and players back then just continued to play with rediculous injuries that would absolutely land today's players on I.R. Having said that, It was nice from hearing from Mauck again..we need more players like that on this team.
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I "toughed" out a torn rotator cuff for a year, and it ended up costing me my football career. The damage was to extream. You can play through being hurt, not being injured.
 
After surgery, Mario Williams faces 3-4 month rehab
Posted by Mike Florio on October 15, 2011, 9:38 PM EDT
Mario Williams AP

Texans linebacker Mario Williams suffered a torn pectoral muscle last Sunday against the Raiders. He was placed on injured reserve earlier this week. On Friday, he underwent surgery to repair the injury.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Williams will spend the next three-to-four months rehabilitating the muscle. That means he’ll be back at 100 percent in January or February.

By late February, the Texans will have to decide whether to use the franchise tag on Williams, if he isn’t signed to a long-term deal by the team before then.



In five games at outside linebacker in the 3-4 defense, Williams showed that he can play in that alignment or at defensive end in the 4-3, which should make him attractive to more teams. It’s not believed that the injury will impact his value.

That said, his value surely would have been higher if, for example, he had been playing in January and bagging multiple sacks in postseason games. Still, Williams will likely set a new high-water mark for defensive players, of/when he hits the open market.
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Surgical rehab for a pectoral reattachment involves ~3 weeks in a sling with passive ROM (range of motion) not being begun until the 3rd week. Progressive ROM and strengthening will occur over a 12-16 week period. However, for example in weight lifting, most surgeons will discourage lifting greater than 50% of the athlete's previous 1 repetition maximum be performed until 6 months post-operative. Furthermore, the use of heavy weighted pec dec and flys are typically avoided for up to 6 months due to the great amount of concentrated stress to the pectoralis major.

Although ~90% of athletes surgically repaired can expect to return to close to 100% of pre-injury level of performance, Mario is unlikely to reach that level earlier than 6 months following his repair.

EDIT: For anyone interested, here is a very good VIDEO that demonstrates Mario's injury and one of the most common techniques used in its repair. (BTW, any signs of blood are absent in the making of this video)
 
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