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2011 TexansTalk Member Mock Draft (FULL)

With the 11th pick in the 2011 NFL draft the Houston Texans select Prince Amukamara 6'1 205 DB Nebraska

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I think there will be a lot of unhappy campers with the Texans' pick.

I'm not totally against Prince, but I would have gone with Justin Houston.
 
I'm far from enamored with Amukamara but understand the selection. I still push extremely hard once the CBA is agreed to, to sign one of the quality free agent CBs. That would give us a #1 (hypothetically Ike Taylor), Prince Amukamara, Kareem Jackson, Glover Quin and Jason Allen. That's a pretty good mixture of DBs in my opinion.

I really want to address the Front 7 with this early pick though. In this situation I'd love to trade down. Maybe San Diego or New England would trade up for JJ Watt.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
The Smith pick fills a need, and the guy could be a great one, but to the eye ball he looks more like a TE than a OT. I wonder how he will cope with the size/strength of the NFL.

I'd like to see Mario bullrush him.
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REALLY. Sure you want to see that?

Normally he just doesn't get beat. He came out of High School as the top rated linemen in nation. He doesn't have a six pack, he has an eight pack. Guy is cut, cat quick, strong, great measureables- almost 37" arm length & 11" hands. He is smooth & polished in both run blocking or pass protection. Let me put it this way, he has Pro Bowl material, IMO, a better prospect than the #2 overall pick by St. Louis Jason Smith or the #1 overall pick of the Miami Dolphins Jake Long.

The combine answered concerns about his weight for me, listed @ only 280 he carried 307 easily. My guess is his natural NFL playing weight will be close to 315. Only underclassman, age only 20. If teams due their research like myself, Tryon Smith will be the first offensive tackle off the board & well worth Top 10 grade.

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Ole Miss Texan said:
I'm far from enamored with Amukamara but understand the selection. I still push extremely hard once the CBA is agreed to, to sign one of the quality free agent CBs. That would give us a #1 (hypothetically Ike Taylor), Prince Amukamara, Kareem Jackson, Glover Quin and Jason Allen. That's a pretty good mixture of DBs in my opinion.

I really want to address the Front 7 with this early pick though. In this situation I'd love to trade down. Maybe San Diego or New England would trade up for JJ Watt.
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I'm with you and PN. I don't think we'll go CB in the 1st, but with the CBA uncertainty we might be forced.

I would've taken Houston or Watt, but that's my opinion.
 
Well I'm against moving Quin to FS at this point. I don't think he would fail there, but in this league you need as many CBs as you can get (you need 3 solid ones at the least). So it doesn't make sense to me to move our best CB out of the position.

I realize that he would still be in the secondary but his responsibilies would be different.

I would prefer we kept Quin at CB #2, put Jackson in the nickle, and signed a vet to be #1. Then we could try McManis at FS. McManis doesn't have ideal size for the position, but he has natural athleticism and he plays a very smart style of football.

I would even try Jason Allen at FS before I would move Quin.
 
beerlover said:
REALLY. Sure you want to see that?

Normally he just doesn't get beat. He came out of High School as the top rated linemen in nation. He doesn't have a six pack, he has an eight pack. Guy is cut, cat quick, strong, great measureables- almost 37" arm length & 11" hands. He is smooth & polished in both run blocking or pass protection. Let me put it this way, he has Pro Bowl material, IMO, a better prospect than the #2 overall pick by St. Louis Jason Smith or the #1 overall pick of the Miami Dolphins Jake Long....
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BL, I'm as high on Smith as anyone. I've had him in my top 25 since way before the combine. But he is no Jake Long, nor will he ever be, imo. Smith will be a very solid pro and will probably make some Pro Bowls, but Long is on his way to being one of the league's elite linemen for years to come.
 
Prince, Jackson, Quin is a nice triplet of CBs in a couple of years time.

I would like one of them at FS and maybe Nolan at SS?
 
bah007 said:
Well I'm against moving Quin to FS at this point. I don't think he would fail there, but in this league you need as many CBs as you can get (you need 3 solid ones at the least). So it doesn't make sense to me to move our best CB out of the position.

I realize that he would still be in the secondary but his responsibilies would be different.
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I'm a Quin fan. But just because he was our best CB in 2010 (& 2009) doesn't mean that he is the answer at CB. I'd much rather he move to FS..... may be a pro bowler back there. Definitely better than any safety we've had in a while.

Especially with no Laron Landry/Eric Berry in this draft.

Ike Taylor, Jason Allen/Kjac, Amukamara in the nickel at least to start the season may be the best move in the long run.


bah007 said:
I would prefer we kept Quin at CB #2, put Jackson in the nickle, and signed a vet to be #1. Then we could try McManis at FS. McManis doesn't have ideal size for the position, but he has natural athleticism and he plays a very smart style of football.
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Excellent option as well, but I think McManis is a more pure corner than Quin is.

I hope, we don't shy away from FA CBs just because we picked a corner with the #1 overall. I think CB has been a weakness far longer than the Texans (and many here) have been willing to admit. Dunta Robinson (IMO) was good enough for us to ignore the position (like FS) for way too long.

We've had a #2 pretending to be a #1 for so long, that he became our standard.....

Adding two quality CBs and moving Quinn to FS is the right way to go (IMO).
 
Prince Amukamara is a little better than Kareem Jackson in most areas but compare very close, both big physical, downhill corners, should set Texans @ position for a long, long time. Good pick, Ndevine7 - w/high probability of occurring from Texans Rick Smith & Co.
 
With the 12th pick, the Minnesota Vikings select...

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Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri.

With Favre retiring the Vikings need a QB, and to have the top rated QB (IMO) fall to 12 I had to take him.
 
Super Mario said:
I like getting quality corners and Price is a very good selection, but I though the major need was at OLB.
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There are some better corners (IMO) that should be available to us in the second round. Not the physical guys that Kubiak/Smith like...... Amukamara/Kareem, but more cover type guys.

I think if they are listening to Wade..... maybe we'll go that route.


Then again, Wade did draft Jenkins.
 
bah007 said:
BL, I'm as high on Smith as anyone. I've had him in my top 25 since way before the combine. But he is no Jake Long, nor will he ever be, imo. Smith will be a very solid pro and will probably make some Pro Bowls, but Long is on his way to being one of the league's elite linemen for years to come.
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not as high as me obviously :survivor:

Everybody ha their own idea of what a truely great NFL tackle should look & play like (this is a really sad thing when it comes to the Texans isn't it? I mean how many top 10 boards will Duane Brown ever make during his career as Texans LT?) That said there is more than one way to skin your dinner. Jake is more of a mauler, typical Big 10 blue collar very mature player. In this class Castonzo is the closest thing to Jake, he'll outwork you, technically sound & learn from his mistakes he just lacks elite measureables, although I really like him too. Jake best comp to me is another former Trojan
Tony Boselli 6070 324. We'll see how he holds up injury wise the one thing which concerns me.

At first I was thinking Tyron was more like another former USC OT Anthony Muñoz who was a little lighter @ 6060 280 or but combine changed that so just looking at the numbers, 6050 307 & game film switched to Walter Jones. Saving grace for these big, athletic guys is they are natural knee benders & are able to keep leverage with good lower body bend thus taking stress off their backs. Bottom line elite OT's usually go very early in the draft. I'm sure Dallas is hoping the real thing plays out just like this one.
 
This pick would have been a lot harder if Cameron Jordan was still there. Gabbert is the top rated QB (IMO) in this draft and the Vikings need someone to take over as the signal caller. I wasn't going to wait until the 2nd round if the best QB in the draft was still there at pick #12.
 
JCTexan said:
This pick would have been a lot harder if Cameron Jordan was still there. Gabbert is the top rated QB (IMO) in this draft and the Vikings need someone to take over as the signal caller. I wasn't going to wait until the 2nd round if the best QB in the draft was still there at pick #12.
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good call
 
Lions and pbat488 are on the clock.

Kiwi get ready cause Rams Texans4Ever proxy'ed their pick to me.
 
JCTexan said:
This pick would have been a lot harder if Cameron Jordan was still there. Gabbert is the top rated QB (IMO) in this draft and the Vikings need someone to take over as the signal caller. I wasn't going to wait until the 2nd round if the best QB in the draft was still there at pick #12.
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It was a good call. I'm not really high on any of the QBs in this class, but if I were forced to take one it would be Gabbert.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Random question are the players in this draft going to be subject to the rookie wage scale when and if that is agreed to?

If so the concern about the $$ for a first round QB may no longer be so pressing.
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Nope, this should be the last draft where they AREN'T. 2012 Draft going forward will certainly have one in place.
 
disaacks3 said:
Nope, this should be the last draft where they AREN'T. 2012 Draft going forward will certainly have one in place.
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That's not what Oliver Luck said when he was explaining Andrew Lucks' decision to stay at Stanford for his Sr yr.

He was on Matt Thomas show I believe.
 
I was figuring that if there is no CBA, the rookies while drafted wouldn't/couldn't sign new contracts so when the new CBA came in the players would be signed under that.....

That was just my common sense thinking though.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
How much difference is there between Bradford and Gabbert ? Who would you take between Colt and Gabbert ?
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Insane difference between Bradford and Gabbert. It's not even close. I had Bradford rated higher than I had Stafford when he came out. And higher than I had Ryan and Flacco when they came out. Although I'll admit that Ryan was more NFL ready, I just think Bradford has the most potential.

I had Bradford rated as the best QB prospect since Phillip Rivers came out. That's how highly I think of him. But next year I'll probably have Luck rated even higher.

Between Gabbert and Colt I would probably take Gabbert, but only if he could sit for a while. If I knew my QB would be pressed into action early I would go with Colt.

I think Gabbert has a higher ceiling than Colt, but also a bigger bust factor.
 
bah007 said:
Insane difference between Bradford and Gabbert. It's not even close. I had Bradford rated higher than I had Stafford when he came out. And higher than I had Ryan and Flacco when they came out. Although I'll admit that Ryan was more NFL ready, I just think Bradford has the most potential.

I had Bradford rated as the best QB prospect since Phillip Rivers came out. That's how highly I think of him. But next year I'll probably have Luck rated even higher.

Between Gabbert and Colt I would probably take Gabbert, but only if he could sit for a while. If I knew my QB would be pressed into action early I would go with Colt.

I think Gabbert has a higher ceiling than Colt, but also a bigger bust factor.
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This draft is so iffy. The whole thing has a huge bust potential.
 
steelbtexan said:
That's not what Oliver Luck said when he was explaining Andrew Lucks' decision to stay at Stanford for his Sr yr.

He was on Matt Thomas show I believe.
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kiwitexansfan said:
I was figuring that if there is no CBA, the rookies while drafted wouldn't/couldn't sign new contracts so when the new CBA came in the players would be signed under that.....

That was just my common sense thinking though.
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Oliver is assuming it'll go into place this year, not 2012. He could be right, but with the glacial pace the negotiations are taking thus far, I'm guessing that cap is a 50/50 proposition for the 2011 draft.
 
Its such a weird draft with no top prospect, no top QB, no free agency, its hard to determine who anyone is going to take because teams do not know if they can fill a need in FA and might reach on a need instead of going bpa
 
ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........

Did everyone seem to miss the memo that this thing starts the day after the combine?
 
With the 13th pick of the draft, the Detroit Lions select....

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Anthony Costanzo, OT, Boston College

With no clear cut #1 offensive tackle prospect, the Lions go with the player they feel most comfortable with. Started as a true freshman protecting Matt Ryan, he holds the career starts record at BC as well as staying in great academic standing.
 
No worries, thanks for getting the pick in as soon as you could.

I think your pick is a good one, I don't think there are any outstanding prospects on the board and the OT is a good chance to be a good one.
 
With the 14th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the St. Louis Rams select...



Stephen Paea, DT Oregon State

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The Rams need a WR but with AJ Green and Julio Jones off the board they decide to upgrade the interior defensive line and add someone to play next to Fred Robins.

Paea is as strong as they come and if he can live up to his hype he will be an explosive player on the inside. With Paea, Robins, and an improved Chris Long, the Rams will actually have a solid defensive line for the next few years.
 
The Rams selection is up (Stephen Paea, DT). Provides an upgrade on the interior defensive line and will allow the Rams to plug someone in next to Fred Robins.
 
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