BullsOnParade
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The worst thing about the coaching was that we were coming off of a bye.
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The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread
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That is not surprising though. Texans are 1-4 under Kubiak after the bye. 1-3 in the 2nd game after the bye.
Scooter
Funky
if we have 4 championships in those 20 years, would you complain? i'm not planning on jumping on someone else's bandwagon in those 20 years.
i want THIS texans team to mature and find their peak. we continue to acquire top tier talent each season almost exclusively through the draft and without spending much money at all. despite his flaws (of which i am usually quick to point out), i think too many choose to ignore our successes.
believe me, when i feel we're at a point where kubiak has plateau'd both coaching and building this franchise, i'll be right there suggesting replacements. i dont think we're close to either one ... we are continuing that upward trend.
Scooter
Funky
that has to be the most frustrating part. we had 2 weeks to design an offense specifically (and literally) to run over the colts.
pass, pass, pass, sack - punt
2 weeks to come up with that.
Ok, this is MY opinion. I'm just a Texans fan. I am just as bitterly disappointed in this loss as the rest of you. But I don't, and never will, claim to know more than Kubiak, or any coach for that matter, how to coach a football team.
I know this for a fact. The players want to play for him. As long as that condition exists, I will never, and I mean NEVER, call for him to be fired. I will only call for a coach to be fired when I feel he has lost his team. I think Wade Phillips has lost his team, and that's why I think he should be fired.
Most of you just want change, for change sake. Well, get over it. Kubiak will be here for long, long time.
Showtime100
Got JJ?
Of course I respect your opinion. Speaking for myself I know change for change's sake is foolhardy. My reasons are above in another post.
Uh-oh. Close lightning strike here. Bye-bye.
I hope all has a good night.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
I don't want Kubiak fired, and didn't say I did. I don't understand the play-calling when the running game seemed to be working. There were a couple of 3rd and 3s early in the game where I would have ran the ball, and on that fourth down try I would have tried running the ball instead. The running game was working and Schaub seemed to be struggling so the wise thing to do IMO is try to establish the running game.
wagonhed
Team Gruden
I disagree strongly with just about everything you've said on the last 2 pages, but I'll respond to this.
The reason most of us want Kubiak gone (at the END of the season) is because we don't think he has shown any signs that he can or will improve in the near or even distant future. It's not like he has been steadily improving. In fact, I doubt if he has improved at all. The team has improved a ton because we have a shitload of talent. And now it's the coaching that is holding back our talent.
The idea that if we just keep him around for another 15 years we will win the Super Bowl 4 times is outright ludicrous. You keep a guy for 20 years if he is a good coach and shows improvement each year. Kubiak is neither a good coach nor does he show improvement each year.
Your blind willingness to keep him forever (based on what, exactly?) is difficult to understand.
Grams
Veteran
How can a team not be prepared to play a beat up team with 2 weeks to prepare?
A team we crushed in game 1 this year. A team that has shown repeatedly that it cannot stop the run.
How can we not give Brown help to stop Freeney?
How can we look good one week and totally inept the next?
Where is Cushing? Is he back from suspension yet? When is he due back? He is beginning to look like Merriman here. Not very good after testing positive for PEDS.
I have never been a pink soaper, but am beginning to see the light.
A team we crushed in game 1 this year. A team that has shown repeatedly that it cannot stop the run.
How can we not give Brown help to stop Freeney?
How can we look good one week and totally inept the next?
Where is Cushing? Is he back from suspension yet? When is he due back? He is beginning to look like Merriman here. Not very good after testing positive for PEDS.
I have never been a pink soaper, but am beginning to see the light.
Very reminiscent of the Cowboys game, the 'Skins game, & the KC game.
Actually, even the Raiders game. Our defense is not, & has not been as bad as the stats suggest, they've just been on the field way too long because of our inept offense.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Smithiak are a good team.
The team has progressed from when they took over.
However it is time the Smith of Smithiak, fires the iak part and brings in someone who can take us from good to great and keep us there.
The team has progressed from when they took over.
However it is time the Smith of Smithiak, fires the iak part and brings in someone who can take us from good to great and keep us there.
Blake
MMQB
Smowher has a nice ring to it.
I put this in the "surely he can't be that stupid" category. It doesn't make sense. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it, so why would we believe Kubiak wouldn't know it?
Think about this.... they've been saying Matt has been given more & more freedom to adjust the plays at the line. What if he is checking to passes after scanning the defense? I remember after one play, Matt went to the sideline, & Kubiak was asking him to explain something. So who knows?
Another thing, with the talent we have on offense (remember we've been saying OD is back for the last two weeks) & the Colts depleted secondary, there is no reason our passing game should have looked so inept. We didn't recognize blitzes, Brown was rusty, & Winston has a lot of explaining to do.
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
been a big kubiak supporter since day 1 but ive never been madder at him than i am right now after last nights playcalling debacle
what i wouldnt give to be at that press conference asking a few choice questions.. too bad most/all of the guys that are there suck at asking hard questions but if anyone rings 610 this evening please ask this (and phrase it this way since they dont let ranters on):
'coach, how would you evaluate your playcalling last night, especially in the first half, given that arian was running for 6 yds a pop from start to finish as he did in our week 1 blowout, the colts have ferocious pass rushing DE's who were killing the OT's, esp duane & the passing game in general looked out of sync as it has done for much of the season & created huge deficits in 5 out of our 7 games'
not reaching for the pink soap just yet but my hands got alot dirtier during last nights game
what i wouldnt give to be at that press conference asking a few choice questions.. too bad most/all of the guys that are there suck at asking hard questions but if anyone rings 610 this evening please ask this (and phrase it this way since they dont let ranters on):
'coach, how would you evaluate your playcalling last night, especially in the first half, given that arian was running for 6 yds a pop from start to finish as he did in our week 1 blowout, the colts have ferocious pass rushing DE's who were killing the OT's, esp duane & the passing game in general looked out of sync as it has done for much of the season & created huge deficits in 5 out of our 7 games'
not reaching for the pink soap just yet but my hands got alot dirtier during last nights game
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
This is what will happen with Kubiak: the Texans will HOPEFULLY fire him if we don't make the playoffs this season (looking less likely we'll make it...this loss hurts). He'll go back as an OC, and in a couple of years he'll come back as a HC again somewhere else and be more successful.
Blake
MMQB
I'm your huckleberry.
Edit: Dropping my Mario Williams avatar for this garbage pink soap. Tells you all you need to know about my feelings on Kubiak.
eriadoc
Texan-American
You know, the players always have a lot to do with whether or not a coach has success. You simply can't separate the two. Kubiak's poor decision making, however, has risen above the poor play of the players. The offensive line was doing a poor job of pass blocking last night, especially Brown. But they were doing a good job of run blocking. As a coach, it is your job to figure out what's working and use it to your advantage, and fix what isn't working at halftime, or after the game, or gradually, through a series of calls designed to do that. I was saying last night that I would have been calling almost nothing but runs, screens, and slants in the first half, and on every run play, my directive to the OL would have been to bury Freeney on every play. By the second half, he wouldn't have it in him to put on a pass rush clinic.
Instead, we got what we saw last night, because Kubiak is a freakin' moron. And I don't mean he's dumb - he's obviously smart. I mean he's the kind of smart that can out-think the most obvious, basic answer, and then wonder why the hell it didn't work.
I think Kubiak's coaching career has plateaued here in Houston. He isn't going to improve. Whatever external stimulus is needed to trigger some new learning mechanism for him just isn't happening.
Instead, we got what we saw last night, because Kubiak is a freakin' moron. And I don't mean he's dumb - he's obviously smart. I mean he's the kind of smart that can out-think the most obvious, basic answer, and then wonder why the hell it didn't work.
I think Kubiak's coaching career has plateaued here in Houston. He isn't going to improve. Whatever external stimulus is needed to trigger some new learning mechanism for him just isn't happening.
How do you know what the game plan was?
It makes more sense to you that Kubiak called a heavy pass game than it does that Matt checked to pass more after seeing 8 in the box all day?
If it sounds like I'm giving GK a free pass, stop. I'm not. Checking to a pass against what the Colts put out there makes sense to me. Why we couldn't execute..... is on Gary. This is a talented offensive team........ should be a freak'n juggernaught & we can't buy a first down in the first half.
HTown2ATX
TexansMetalhead
Dude, I like a lot of stuff you usually say, but you have got to get off of this.....it's embarassing.
Last night on MNF it was not on the D's fault, the Offense really blew and the Denny's menu must have been smudged so Kubes was making dumbass calls (example 4th and 2 and we pass when Arian was rushing great).
But seriously man....the Defense is not good man. Look inside yourself, search your feelings, you know this to be true.
I think it's ridiculous to think you can put a bunch of talented players on the field, & have them improve inspite of coaching.
That hasn't happened in Dallas for years. Sure they got to the play-offs & won a game in the last 13 years, but I'd much rather be where we are right now, than where they are.
It hasn't worked for the Redskins, or the Raiders either.
The Raiders are actually doing more with less right now, because of Cable. That team will see it's share of growing pains.... but things are looking up right now.
If you're seeing improvement on this team, you're seeing improvement in Kubiak.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
The Raiders are a great example. They are taking the attitude of their head coach "not taking **** from anybody". The Texans are unfortunately taking Kubiak's mindset of being the softest head coach in the league.
Like you would get a straight answer anyway. There is a steel curtain around the locker room. You'll never know what the gameplan actually was, or why it turned out the way it did. Kubiak won't sell his players out, he'll take the blame. The players won't sell Kubiak out, they believe in him.
Schaub was actually asked about the INT Kubiak took credit for, he said, "that's just a coach protecting his player."
You've got to hate Kubiak to think that was his plan. That he wanted to come out unbalanced, that he would ignore something that was working. That he would continue to put Schaub in bad situations.
I don't hate Kubiak, I don't think he's stupid. Something else must have been going on.
I think he's trying to get his QB ready for the play-offs, loosening the reigns. Just didn't work the way we planned & hoped.
I hear you. We've still got a long way to go. People don't understand what he means by saying that, but we've still got a long way to go.
The remaining schedule won't make it easy, but I think we'll get there. I saw some good things last night (more bad, no doubt) but I'm feeling better and better about how this team will do once they get to the play-offs.
Which I still think is this year.
eriadoc
Texan-American
Man, you say some of the most outlandish things ever. This team has never had a top ten defensive unit. Last season, when the offense was rolling, the defense was pretty good at stopping the run, spotty at stopping the pass, and way better than this year's version of D. You could at least make the argument that the D held its own the last 13 games of the season. This year, they suck. There's no getting around it. The reason they're on the field so much is because they don't stop anyone! Last night may have actually been their best game of the season.
The offense is averaging 28:26 in T.O.P. and is a top ten offense in just about every category you could want. Every unit has its off weeks, and this offense has been maddeningly inconsistent, but every defense in the NFL wants a top 10 offense supporting them. So just stop, really.
Dude, I like a lot of stuff you usually say, but you have got to get off of this.....it's embarassing.
But seriously man....the Defense is not good man. Look inside yourself, search your feelings, you know this to be true.
That's not what I said.
.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
You guys and your pink soap just don't get it, only Tide with Bleach can get out the stain of Kubiak...
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Au contraire, Mon frere. The pink soap is for blowing **** up.
RTP2110
All Pro
This is how I feel about Gary Kubiak right now. Gary Kubiak is that guy that just cant put it all together. Hes the guy that does a lot of things well, but always leaves one loose end that ends up biting him in the ass. Most of us know a guy like him. It may be a good friend or a family member. You know the guy who cant keep a job, or who has a good job but cant pay his bills. He tries hard, has the right intentions, but for some reason cant put the whole package together. Maybe he works hard to fix something, but when he does something else goes wrong. I know a few people like this. They do a lot of thing really good, but they always seem to have some huge issue slowing them down in life. You find yourself wondering how they end up with ongoing issues because they seem like they should have it all together.
IMO, thats Kubiak as a head coach. Its always something with his team. The first few seasons he was growing into the job. He had some growing pains that we all expected like clock management and challenge decisions, but it was expected for a new HC. Later those issues got a little better, but then turnovers were an issue. Schaub and Rosenfels were giving the ball away like candy on Halloween, and the defense thought that if they took the ball away they would be convicted for theft. Last season starts, and most of those issues are gone, but now we cant run the ball, and we cant win in our division. Slaton regressed big time, and we went 1-5 in our division. Not to mention that the team only played one good half per game. This year we get a huge win over Indy to start the year, with Foster proving to be the fix to our run game. But now, the defense that looked to be so improved over the last half of last season, has regressed all the way back to being worst in the league. We shored up the run game, but the passing attack from last year is struggling.
Its just always something with this team. Different season, different crippling issue. Im really starting to lose faith in Kubiak ever putting it all together. I have had faith in him for so long because he does do a lot of things really well. But until he can cut out the glaring weaknesses that have always plagued this team, the team wont go any further. Now Im really starting to lose faith that he do it.
IMO, thats Kubiak as a head coach. Its always something with his team. The first few seasons he was growing into the job. He had some growing pains that we all expected like clock management and challenge decisions, but it was expected for a new HC. Later those issues got a little better, but then turnovers were an issue. Schaub and Rosenfels were giving the ball away like candy on Halloween, and the defense thought that if they took the ball away they would be convicted for theft. Last season starts, and most of those issues are gone, but now we cant run the ball, and we cant win in our division. Slaton regressed big time, and we went 1-5 in our division. Not to mention that the team only played one good half per game. This year we get a huge win over Indy to start the year, with Foster proving to be the fix to our run game. But now, the defense that looked to be so improved over the last half of last season, has regressed all the way back to being worst in the league. We shored up the run game, but the passing attack from last year is struggling.
Its just always something with this team. Different season, different crippling issue. Im really starting to lose faith in Kubiak ever putting it all together. I have had faith in him for so long because he does do a lot of things really well. But until he can cut out the glaring weaknesses that have always plagued this team, the team wont go any further. Now Im really starting to lose faith that he do it.
GP
Go Texans!
The worst thing for this team is that it still manages to win some games and look impressive while doing it.
The running game of Foster/Ward, AJ, Schaub, and the come-from-behind wins vs. the Redskins and Chiefs, are all doing one thing: Preventing Bob McNair from pulling the plug on the Kubiak experiment.
It's sad that a man like Bob McNair has fooled himself into thinking that ONLY when we're 1-15 or 2-14 and the fans are all waving "Fire Kubiak!" signs in the stands during the games that THAT is when he needs to move on.
McNair is not a man who is ultimately passionate about winning a title. At least not for the sake of the title itself. He's man, IMO, who sees winning a title as a way to make MORE money. Every move is reactionary with the trigger getting pulled based on how it makes money or avoids losing money.
Right now, McNair ultimately cares about keeping things the way they are. Firing Kubiak would only complicate things. Because Bob runs the risk of making the team worse due to "a rebuilding phase" when what he has right now is at least somewhat tolerable.
He's stringing this out for all it's worth. He's milking the Kubiak cow for as long as he can. In addition, he gets painted by some as being such a loyal, patient man. When in reality, IMO, he's just a business man who likes things to be as predictable and profitable as it can get. If you get something more, then great. If you maintain and keep people int he seats, then that's OK too. But only when he sees half-empty stadiums and the stain of fans wearing paper bags on their heads and a chorus of boos, and the team completely falling apart will Bob McNair make a move.
Because Bob is reactionary, not proactive. And THAT is the exact same thing that Kubiak is. He reacts instead of being proactive. They are a match made in heaven for one another. They share the same gene: Do what you do, minimize volatility and instability, and hope for the best.
Throw in Rick Smith and his penny-pinching contract ways, and it's even worse.
I'm going to go ahead and say it: I hope we lose every game for the rest of the season, and Bob "reacts" by doing what he should have done last year. We need Bob to somehow blindly stumble upon that once-in-a-lifetime head coach that just finds a way to put it together. Whether it happens with the next guy, or the 6th head coach of the Texans, I don't care. But this thing with Kubiak is dead. It's the dog that you think can recover from the sickness, but you know you should just put down for the sake of the dog.
I have never advocated our team losing games on purpose. I am today.
Not even a win next Sunday changes that. Because a win next Sunday only prolongs the sham that is the Kubiak era. Take the kids to grandma's house, grab the pistol, have a few last minutes of petting the dog and telling it you love him, and then do what needs to be done.
It's that simple. At some point, you really DO have to trade these few good times we've had with this Kubiak era and just say "You know what? I'm all for seeing what someone else could do in his place. Good or bad, makes no differenc. A change of scenery is needed."
The running game of Foster/Ward, AJ, Schaub, and the come-from-behind wins vs. the Redskins and Chiefs, are all doing one thing: Preventing Bob McNair from pulling the plug on the Kubiak experiment.
It's sad that a man like Bob McNair has fooled himself into thinking that ONLY when we're 1-15 or 2-14 and the fans are all waving "Fire Kubiak!" signs in the stands during the games that THAT is when he needs to move on.
McNair is not a man who is ultimately passionate about winning a title. At least not for the sake of the title itself. He's man, IMO, who sees winning a title as a way to make MORE money. Every move is reactionary with the trigger getting pulled based on how it makes money or avoids losing money.
Right now, McNair ultimately cares about keeping things the way they are. Firing Kubiak would only complicate things. Because Bob runs the risk of making the team worse due to "a rebuilding phase" when what he has right now is at least somewhat tolerable.
He's stringing this out for all it's worth. He's milking the Kubiak cow for as long as he can. In addition, he gets painted by some as being such a loyal, patient man. When in reality, IMO, he's just a business man who likes things to be as predictable and profitable as it can get. If you get something more, then great. If you maintain and keep people int he seats, then that's OK too. But only when he sees half-empty stadiums and the stain of fans wearing paper bags on their heads and a chorus of boos, and the team completely falling apart will Bob McNair make a move.
Because Bob is reactionary, not proactive. And THAT is the exact same thing that Kubiak is. He reacts instead of being proactive. They are a match made in heaven for one another. They share the same gene: Do what you do, minimize volatility and instability, and hope for the best.
Throw in Rick Smith and his penny-pinching contract ways, and it's even worse.
I'm going to go ahead and say it: I hope we lose every game for the rest of the season, and Bob "reacts" by doing what he should have done last year. We need Bob to somehow blindly stumble upon that once-in-a-lifetime head coach that just finds a way to put it together. Whether it happens with the next guy, or the 6th head coach of the Texans, I don't care. But this thing with Kubiak is dead. It's the dog that you think can recover from the sickness, but you know you should just put down for the sake of the dog.
I have never advocated our team losing games on purpose. I am today.
Not even a win next Sunday changes that. Because a win next Sunday only prolongs the sham that is the Kubiak era. Take the kids to grandma's house, grab the pistol, have a few last minutes of petting the dog and telling it you love him, and then do what needs to be done.
It's that simple. At some point, you really DO have to trade these few good times we've had with this Kubiak era and just say "You know what? I'm all for seeing what someone else could do in his place. Good or bad, makes no differenc. A change of scenery is needed."
"it's the coach's fault, and the players get a free pass."
Who picks the players?
After 71 games, I think we can get a pretty clear understanding of our head coach. If you need more than 71 games to evaluate a mediocre (at best) coach, then perhaps you should own a football team, too.
There is only ONE player that was here before Kubiak was hired. This team represents Gary Kubiak, from the GM and coaching staff, to the players on the roster, how they play, and the results.
The Texans were 4-3 last year at this point. Treading water. Yay, let's be a mediocre team AGAIN and hope for another winning record! *pom pom shaking*
This is the same old song and dance from Kubiak & Co. Continue to support this garbage if your standards are set for mediocre.
Personally, I don't think Kubiak will ever get this team over the hump. Not this season, not 5 seasons from now. I'm more convinced of this simple fact now more than ever.
Texans fan for life, but I'm not gonna' lie, choking down another mediocre year is pathetic.
Who picks the players?
After 71 games, I think we can get a pretty clear understanding of our head coach. If you need more than 71 games to evaluate a mediocre (at best) coach, then perhaps you should own a football team, too.
There is only ONE player that was here before Kubiak was hired. This team represents Gary Kubiak, from the GM and coaching staff, to the players on the roster, how they play, and the results.
The Texans were 4-3 last year at this point. Treading water. Yay, let's be a mediocre team AGAIN and hope for another winning record! *pom pom shaking*
This is the same old song and dance from Kubiak & Co. Continue to support this garbage if your standards are set for mediocre.
Personally, I don't think Kubiak will ever get this team over the hump. Not this season, not 5 seasons from now. I'm more convinced of this simple fact now more than ever.
Texans fan for life, but I'm not gonna' lie, choking down another mediocre year is pathetic.
HTown2ATX
TexansMetalhead
texans fan for life, but i'm not gonna' lie, choking down another mediocre year is pathetic.
^^this
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
"it's the coach's fault, and the players get a free pass."
Who picks the players?
After 71 games, I think we can get a pretty clear understanding of our head coach. If you need more than 71 games to evaluate a mediocre (at best) coach, then perhaps you should own a football team, too.
There is only ONE player that was here before Kubiak was hired. This team represents Gary Kubiak, from the GM and coaching staff, to the players on the roster, how they play, and the results.
The Texans were 4-3 last year at this point. Treading water. Yay, let's be a mediocre team AGAIN and hope for another winning record! *pom pom shaking*
This is the same old song and dance from Kubiak & Co. Continue to support this garbage if your standards are set for mediocre.
Personally, I don't think Kubiak will ever get this team over the hump. Not this season, not 5 seasons from now. I'm more convinced of this simple fact now more than ever.
Texans fan for life, but I'm not gonna' lie, choking down another mediocre year is pathetic.
I'm with ya, DB. I think I might be getting more fed up than a lot of people. I'm tired of spending countless hours studying every facet of this team every year, sweating my ass off at TC and scouting players coming out of College. I'm going to make an effort to pull back the reins on those things and spend more time on life. After recent events, I've found there are more important things I need to worry about.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
He sold it a couple years ago
HTown2ATX
TexansMetalhead
Lol...exactly.....I was even a little snappy when I got to work so I had to check that quick.
Apparently I missed the last debacle of a drive as I passed out with about 5 minutes left in the game....thank God for the human body shutting down after too much alcohol and needing sleep otherwise I would have watched the whole steaming pile of crap to the end like I usually do.
So thank you Shiner for helping to tuck me in before I had to endure that!!
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Do you know what the sporadic success (and it's there) tells me? It tells me that we have some talent and that the systems we have in place on both sides of the ball are at least somewhat viable. This offense (the system) produces results. That's not in question here. This defense, when it goes terribly vanilla can also be somewhat effective. What causes all the problems is the lack of focus and disregard for the basics. Tackling, blocking, "Execution" as Dom Capers would put it. The fact that they're so sloppy and so careless tells me that the players have begun to tune out the coaching. The players will come out and say otherwise but their actions tell another story. They may love playing for Gary but they're not doing what he and his coaches are telling them to do. This staff is losing this teams attention.
Some coaches are good coordinators and not good head coaches. Other coaches can build a team but can't inspire it or lead it anywhere. Some guys are motivators but bad talent evaluators. Coaches come in all kinds of shapes and sizes and colors. This guy (Kubiak) can assemble a team but can't inspire it or take it to the next level. If 5 years of at or around .500 ball don't convince people then I don't know what will.
HTown2ATX
TexansMetalhead
@ GP
You should bring back that sig (or avatar, forget which one) that was like team logos in space and the lombardi trophy and way off in the distance was the Texans logo and the dad was telling his son "and way over there is our team"
Lol
You remember what I'm talking about? Think it's time to bust that out.
You should bring back that sig (or avatar, forget which one) that was like team logos in space and the lombardi trophy and way off in the distance was the Texans logo and the dad was telling his son "and way over there is our team"
Lol
You remember what I'm talking about? Think it's time to bust that out.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Wolf
100% Texan
Ranger Tom
All Pro
I'll put it this way: I'm not breaking out the pink soap quite yet, but I've got the image saved on my computer. There is always a chance, however slight, that this game will be a wake-up call for Kubiak & Co.
But if we don't reach the playoffs with the talent that we have on the field, I may visit Reliant Stadium with a torch in one hand and a pitchfork in the other.
But if we don't reach the playoffs with the talent that we have on the field, I may visit Reliant Stadium with a torch in one hand and a pitchfork in the other.
Showtime100
Got JJ?
Try here. If I had time I gladly would pick through them myself but alas.....
http://www.videosurf.com/gary-kubiak-138676
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Sometimes I wonder if you even watch the Texans after reading your posts. You don't ever seem to be accurate about the things that take place on the field and always go into "spin mode" for Kubiak using every effort possible without any real logic that goes back to football or how this team plays. It just seems that way to me. I wonder if you just enjoy being controversial or something, I dunno, but it just never seems to add up.
DexmanC
Hall of Fame
I gave up on wasting logic on reading TK's posts a long time ago.
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