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Dallas Cowboy Draft Board Revealed.

Round 1
1. Sam Bradford
2. Gerald McCoy
3. Ndamakong Suh
4. Russell Okung
5. Trent Williams
6. Eric Berry
7. Rolando McClain
8. Joe Haden
9. CJ Spiller
10. Mike Iupati
11. Dez Bryant
12. Earl Thomas
13. Bryan Bulaga
14. Sean Lee
15. Jared Odrick
16. Jason Pierre-Paul
17. Derrick Morgan
18. Kyle Wilson
19. MaurkicePouncey
20. Navorro Bowman
21. Jahvid Best
22. Tyson Alualu
23. Jermaine Gresham

Round 2
1. Devin McCourty
2. Demaryius Thomas
3. Koa Misi
4. Jerry Hughes
5. Brandon Graham
6. Nate Allen
7. Morgan Burnett
8. Taylor Mays
9. Dan Williams
10. (covered name)
11. Kareem Jackson
12. Ryan Matthews
13. Brian Price
14. Rob Gronkowski
15. Brandon Ghee
16. Jimmy Clausen
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Yep...
 
Dutchrudder said:
Yep...
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So in other words they had Kareem Jackson roughly rated as their 34th best prospect in the draft, 9th best DB and 4th best CB.

Take a look at where the had the RB's ranked: Mathews (2nd), Tate (4th).

Keep in mind this is relative to the Cowboys, their Schemes and their needs.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
So in other words they had Kareem Jackson roughly rated as their 34th best prospect in the draft, 9th best DB and 4th best CB.

Take a look at where the had the RB's ranked: Mathews (2nd), Tate (4th).

Keep in mind this is relative to the Cowboys, their Schemes and their needs.
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This. I bet you there were 5 different CB's who were the top CB on a teams draft board.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Keep in mind this is relative to the Cowboys, their Schemes and their needs.
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Not only that, it looks more like a mock draft, than a draft board. There is no way a pro draft board is going to have one line of continuity.

All that is telling me, is they thought those players would be gone at those spots. They had Houston taking Navarro Bowman, an OLB from Penn State. (who didn't get drafted till the 3rd, by a guy who knows LBs).

You can't tell me the Cowboys thought Sam Bradford was the best player in this draft.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
So in other words they had Kareem Jackson roughly rated as their 34th best prospect in the draft, 9th best DB and 4th best CB.

Take a look at where the had the RB's ranked: Mathews (2nd), Tate (4th).

Keep in mind this is relative to the Cowboys, their Schemes and their needs.
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True, the Cowboys need help at Safety, not CB right now. I was just curious where Jackson went because I had never heard his name going in the 1st round to anyone during mock draft season. Still seems like a reach.
 
The first line is definitely draft grades on players for their scheme. They admitted that they moved up to get Lee because he was that high...top 15.. on their board because he would be the new Brooking.
 
HoustonFrog said:
The first line is definitely draft grades on players for their scheme.
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No way the Cowboys gave Sam Bradford the highest grade possible for their scheme.

Position wise, I think we can tell they have McCoy rated higher than Suh.. or that they thought Detroit rated McCoy higher than Suh.
 
thunderkyss said:
No way the Cowboys gave Sam Bradford the highest grade possible for their scheme.

Position wise, I think we can tell they have McCoy rated higher than Suh.. or that they thought Detroit rated McCoy higher than Suh.
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They have grades on every player there....every position. They grade out talent. The Cowboys had Lee in the first grade and Jones explained that it was why they moved up in the 2nd to get him. The obviously knew he wasn't going in the top 16 in the 1st because of his injury past. It is their personal draft grades

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=376F49DC-961E-7FF4-857147CF55DCE37F

By the end of Friday's second and third rounds, the Cowboys were glowing over their ability to get Penn State linebacker Sean Lee, a player that had projected as a Top 16 player on their own board. In fact, Jerry Jones said his primary goal for the second day of the draft was to make sure he moved up enough to get Lee, whom the club picked at No. 55 overall.
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http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/4/26/1445433/cowboys-draft-2010-what-theyre

The Cowboys certainly think highly of their second-round selection, Sean Lee. Getting him with the 55th overall pick on Friday suggests great value considering Lee was a Top 16 player on their board.

Some may feel that the selection was based more on the team's projected value rather than filling a need. But with inside 'backer being a key ingredient to the Wade Phillips base 3-4 and the fact that veteran Keith Brooking will be 35 in October, it seems like now is a good time to inject some youth at the position.
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Does anybody really think that Jones' does not about camera placement and Hi-Def photography to let this happen? More then once?
 
HoustonFrog said:
The first line is definitely draft grades on players for their scheme. They admitted that they moved up to get Lee because he was that high...top 15.. on their board because he would be the new Brooking.
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HoustonFrog said:
They have grades on every player there....every position. They grade out talent. The Cowboys had Lee in the first grade and Jones explained that it was why they moved up in the 2nd to get him. The obviously knew he wasn't going in the top 16 in the 1st because of his injury past. It is their personal draft grades

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=376F49DC-961E-7FF4-857147CF55DCE37F




http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/4/26/1445433/cowboys-draft-2010-what-theyre
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I don't doubt every team has a grade for the majority, or nearly all the players in the draft. I don't believe that is reflected in the Cowboys Mock, which is the first line on the board.
 
Sooooo....

If Dez Bryant had gone before the #24 pick would Dallas have stayed pat at #27 and selected Sean Lee and kept their #90 overall?

That would have had Navorro Bowman as their pick in the 2nd round, which would not have mane sense based on the pick of Sean Lee as a LB already in the 1st. That would have left them with Brandon Ghee in the second round who, ended up going very late in the supplemental part of the 3rd. That is unless their "covered name" in the 2nd was available.



They got lucky that Dez fell to them or their draft board would have blown up in their faces.
 
Señor Stan;1421970 said:
Sooooo....

If Dez Bryant had gone before the #24 pick would Dallas have stayed pat at #27 and selected Sean Lee and kept their #90 overall?

That would have had Navorro Bowman as their pick in the 2nd round, which would not have mane sense based on the pick of Sean Lee as a LB already in the 1st. That would have left them with Brandon Ghee in the second round who, ended up going very late in the supplemental part of the 3rd. That is unless their "covered name" in the 2nd was available.



They got lucky that Dez fell to them or their draft board would have blown up in their faces.
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thunderkyss said:
I don't doubt every team has a grade for the majority, or nearly all the players in the draft. I don't believe that is reflected in the Cowboys Mock, which is the first line on the board.
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That is extreme and not true. If Bryant went high then you target someone else or that is when you move back. Jones has moved back in a large amount of drafts. There were also guys that mocks had them taking at 27 that fell...Taylor Mays, etc. Alot of drafts had Mays as their guy. They could get him or move back. At that point they moved up to get Bryant. They probably had a spot where they decided hat direction they would go. There were still other players they could get out there....Wilson was also there at CB. They have 2 younger studs and Newman is getting old so might have gone for best talent. My bet, since safety and OT were high on their list is that if they didn't get Bryant they move back.

Thunder, I said their grading is the first line. Considering they told everyone Lee was Top 16 and he is on that list, what is there not to believe. Those are the guys, no matter position, that graded out Level 1 for them.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Does anybody really think that Jones' does not about camera placement and Hi-Def photography to let this happen? More then once?
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Yeah, without reading all the write-ups on this...

I say this was all a bit of trickery. They know the cameras will show those images, and so they create a fake board in hopes that any other teams out there (who have their spies looking at stuff like that) will somehow buy into the rankings.

Just my two cents.
 
HoustonFrog said:
That is extreme and not true. If Bryant went high then you target someone else or that is when you move back. Jones has moved back in a large amount of drafts. There were also guys that mocks had them taking at 27 that fell...Taylor Mays, etc. Alot of drafts had Mays as their guy. They could get him or move back. At that point they moved up to get Bryant. They probably had a spot where they decided hat direction they would go. There were still other players they could get out there....Wilson was also there at CB. They have 2 younger studs and Newman is getting old so might have gone for best talent. My bet, since safety and OT were high on their list is that if they didn't get Bryant they move back.

Thunder, I said their grading is the first line. Considering they told everyone Lee was Top 16 and he is on that list, what is there not to believe. Those are the guys, no matter position, that graded out Level 1 for them.
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My point wasn't to criticize, but more to guess at what would / could have been. If they truly had Sean Lee at 14 then there would not be a reason for them to trade down out of that pick...Taylor Mays would not have been the choice in the 1st based off of their board.

I think they got a much better draft based off of their own board with Dez falling to them. They would have chosen Lee at #27 in the first vs. getting him at #55 in the 2nd. A clear win for the 'Boys value wise.

Makes me wonder what would have happened to the Texans if Mathews had made it to #20...Who would have been the pick for them in the 2nd round?

I don't know why I am so fascinated by seeing a peek behind the curtains of an NFL team's draft board. I guess it's because teams value different players so differently based on their own scouting and team philosophy.
 
Señor Stan;1422022 said:
My point wasn't to criticize, but more to guess at what would / could have been. If they truly had Sean Lee at 14 then there would not be a reason for them to trade down out of that pick...Taylor Mays would not have been the choice in the 1st based off of their board.

I think they got a much better draft based off of their own board with Dez falling to them. They would have chosen Lee at #27 in the first vs. getting him at #55 in the 2nd. A clear win for the 'Boys value wise.

Makes me wonder what would have happened to the Texans if Mathews had made it to #20...Who would have been the pick for them in the 2nd round?

I don't know why I am so fascinated by seeing a peek behind the curtains of an NFL team's draft board. I guess it's because teams value different players so differently based on their own scouting and team philosophy.
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I know you weren't criticizing, I was just trying to explain what they might have done if Dez was done, from what I read predraft in the DMN, etc. I think despite having Lee so high on their board..which many articles said they did...they might have known that most teams had him going in the 2nd because of his past injuries. So I am thinking they could have traded back and got him. Mays wasn't rated high but because of his fall I'm sure they though the same based on raw talent...that they could move back a little and take him since safety was a need.

What I liked from Jones this year was that he didn't do like last year. Last year they had 12 picks that they accumulated over the years from trading down and basically took 12 random guys hoping to hit on a few while some would be STers. He should have packaged picks and taken guys they wanted...there were some targeted that they didn't go after. This year he figured they had talent and instead of reaching they would go after THEIR guys and move up. We will see how it worked but I'd rather have 3 impact guys out of 6 then hoping 3 come out of 12.
 
Dutchrudder said:
True, the Cowboys need help at Safety, not CB right now. I was just curious where Jackson went because I had never heard his name going in the 1st round to anyone during mock draft season. Still seems like a reach.
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Gil Brandt had jackson in the first rd easy. Maybe you need another draft source if you didn't know. The patriots was going to take jackson if the texans didn't. Once the texans took jackson, they sold their pick.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Thunder, I said their grading is the first line. Considering they told everyone Lee was Top 16 and he is on that list, what is there not to believe. Those are the guys, no matter position, that graded out Level 1 for them.
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Maybe it's just semantics.
If that is how they graded players, as in that is their "draft board," I find it hard to believe the Cowboys (or anybody for that matter) would have Sam Bradford as the #1 rated player overall.

IMHO, a draft board should look more like Scout.com's where every player is graded and thrown on a list regardless what position, and regardless what a particular team needs.

But even Scout.com has Bradford ranked as the second highest player, so who knows... maybe the Cowboys did have Bradford as #1.
 
leebigeztx said:
Gil Brandt had jackson in the first rd easy. Maybe you need another draft source if you didn't know. The patriots was going to take jackson if the texans didn't. Once the texans took jackson, they sold their pick.
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Got a source to back that up, or is this just pure speculation on your part?


The last few years the Pats have been in a "Trade First" mentality when drafting. Last year they could have had Clay Matthews, but instead traded him to Green Bay for 2nd and 3rd round picks. They could have had Dez Bryant, Kyle Wilson, Devin McCourty, Tim Tebow, etc etc at 23, but chose to trade back instead. There's no telling who they wanted, and I wouldn't put it past them to take Tebow at #26, but the Broncos snuck in at 25 and got him. McCourty was likely a backup option at that pick given the CB depth in this draft and the extra 2nd round picks they had stockpiled.
 
thunderkyss said:
Maybe it's just semantics.
If that is how they graded players, as in that is their "draft board," I find it hard to believe the Cowboys (or anybody for that matter) would have Sam Bradford as the #1 rated player overall.

IMHO, a draft board should look more like Scout.com's where every player is graded and thrown on a list regardless what position, and regardless what a particular team needs.

But even Scout.com has Bradford ranked as the second highest player, so who knows... maybe the Cowboys did have Bradford as #1.
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I hear you loud and clear, but if when you hear some teams (or scouts) liked McCoy better than Suh as a prospect, some thought Berry was the best player in the draft... it's not too far out of the possibility to think Bradford was right up there.

The thing about QB's is that if a team (like Dallas) thinks that Sam Bradford is a Franchise Quarterback - they're invaluable. Looks like Dallas thought Bradford is a Franchise guy which makes him the most highly coveted player in the draft.
 
great find TC :texans chick:

as someone who is a certified draft geek, this is like opening a treasure chest, except the writing & content is such a poor representation of a Billion dollar industry/buisness that it makes me cringe & even more thankfull for Rick Smith, Gary Kubiak & the owner Bob McNair. I think several of us here could put together a better draft board than what the Cowboys came up with :cowboy1:
 
beerlover said:
great find TC :texans chick:

as someone who is a certified draft geek, this is like opening a treasure chest, except the writing & content is such a poor representation of a Billion dollar industry/buisness that it makes me cringe & even more thankfull for Rick Smith, Gary Kubiak & the owner Bob McNair. I think several of us here could put together a better draft board than what the Cowboys came up with :cowboy1:
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Love your draft work but not sure how you got this from the article.

This same "rumor" was around 2 years ago. Not even sure they don't do this on purpose.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Love your draft work but not sure how you got this from the article.

This same "rumor" was around 2 years ago. Not even sure they don't do this on purpose.
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I have a real hard time visualizing Bob McNair standing front & center over the draft board pointing out names he wants Rick Smith to choose :truck:
 
HoustonFrog said:
Beat me to it. He actually sits with the coaches and makes the picks. We might not like it sometimes but he is GM.
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Yep. He said from day one he was going to be in charge. And he has been. Will be nice to see Stephen doing that one day. Actually this year on the very few interviews I did see during the draft Stephen was the one being interviewed. I can't recollect seeing Jerry at all. Guess he was working! Or pretending too anyway.
 
Dutchrudder said:
True, the Cowboys need help at Safety, not CB right now. I was just curious where Jackson went because I had never heard his name going in the 1st round to anyone during mock draft season. Still seems like a reach.
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Gil Brandt had him in the same tier group as Kyle Wilson. Many mock drafts including Rick Gosselin's had Jackson going in the first.

http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d817a77bc

(UP FROM TIER 4) Another cornerback coached by Nick Saban. Plays the run well and can play bump-and-run or off the receiver. Looks like former Cowboys great Everson Walls, who led the NFL in interceptions each of his first two seasons.
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Gosselin had him going #25 to the Ravens in his final mock. Not a reach by any means.

http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/042210dnspogoosemock.3cacf47.html

25. BALTIMORE RAVENS

Kareem Jackson, Cornerback, Alabama

The Ravens have always won with a physical brand of defense, and Jackson is the most physical corner in this draft. He goes from the No. 2-ranked defense in college to the No. 3-ranked defense in the NFL.
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HoustonFrog said:
Not always. 2008 is looking pretty good right now with Felix Jones, Mike Jenkins, Tashard Choice, Scandrick and Martellus Bennett. Allhave been big contributors
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The Z report likes this years draft, best in division too - http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2010_nfl_draft/
Obviously, the value on the Cowboys draft will ride primarily on the immature, but talented shoulders of Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant. If Bryant can pull it together and grow up, then the Cowboys will have a steal and a No. 1 WR for years to come. If not, then remove the "best overall draft" acclaim from your memory banks. Penn State LB Sean Lee is a hard-nosed football player who has good instincts and an opportunity to eventually replace what Keith Brooking helped bring to the field last year. IUP defensive back Akwasi Owusu-Ansah is a terrific find in the 4th round and will almost assuredly be used as a free safety. Ansah's speed is better than you usually find at safety and he's got terrific upside if the jump in competition isn't too much for him.
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Now if them boyz had stood pat & got Bryant then we're talking. But they didn't they just had to trade up & with New England (traded its first- (No. 24) and fourth-round (No. 119) picks to Dallas for the Cowboys' first- (No. 27) and third-round (No. 90) picks. Dallas later traded the No. 119 pick to Miami for No. 126 Akwasi & 6th No179 OT Sam Young of Notre Dame. Yeah they got Bryant but Bellichick got McCourty & Taylor Price who might actually have a better career than Bryant. I really don't think Dallas got the better end of the deal. Don't really understand this grade on Sean Lee, isn't he coming off a major injury, solid player if he's healthy but nothing to get your panties in a wad about. Of course they traded away their 3rd. Really like Akwasi but he is a developmental player, jury is out we'll have to see how he comes along, 4th is good value based on potential but impacting right away, don't see it other than special teams which is about right for a 4th rounder.

here is another solid draft guy, Nolan Nawrocki take - http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/04/26/draft-helps-nfc-west-get-stronger
Dallas Cowboys
Once Dez Bryant slipped into the 20s, Jerry Jones did not want to risk losing him to New England and traded up three spots to land the draft's most talented receiver. He traded up four spots again in the second to land a falling Sean Lee. They acquired an additional pick moving back seven spots in the fourth round and drafted a supremely gifted, small-school S Akwasi Owusu-Ansah. All three have starter-type traits and could turn out to be bargains where they were drafted, provided they stay healthy and Bryant stays motivated. OT Sam Young fits the Cowboys' O-line well. CB Jamar Wall and DL Sean Lissemore could battle for roster spots. There was some risk involved, but if Jones connects swinging for the fences, he could hit big.
Grade: B
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Beer, they love Lee because he is their "Cushing" type guy. He is a clone of Brooking, who is their vocal leader and makes plays. I think his injury was in 2008 and they say he doesn't even need the braces now but they have special ones anyways. Also, on Bryant....the guy was there in the 20s and they basically got a Top 5-10 graded out talent at 24. Considering the other options I loved it. Gosselin said he should be rookie of the year. I'm happy they went with an aggressive approach. Last year they had 12 picks and half were injured and some were special teams guys.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Beer, they love Lee because he is their "Cushing" type guy. He is a clone of Brooking, who is their vocal leader and makes plays. I think his injury was in 2008 and they say he doesn't even need the braces now but they have special ones anyways. Also, on Bryant....the guy was there in the 20s and they basically got a Top 5-10 graded out talent at 24. Considering the other options I loved it. Gosselin said he should be rookie of the year. I'm happy they went with an aggressive approach. Last year they had 12 picks and half were injured and some were special teams guys.
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you proved my point. guess we'll just have to disagree on Bryant. If he was really a "Top 5-10 talent" he would have been selected in "Top 5-10" but real questions of concern dropped his draft stock, right or wrong. I'm proud to say predicted as such along with Awtysst in our mock draft
25. Baltimore Ravens - Dez Bryant, WR 6'2" 225
phenomenal talent stretching him to Jim Harbaugh. in his first two drafts he has taken a chance with Flacco, Ray Rice & Michael Oher. Bryant fits this trend & will flourish in this offense, posse & all
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maybe the crack Dallas GM reads this board & deceided to trade up just ahead of the Ravens to get this guy, in that case I retract my statement, Jerry is at least a great poser :facepalm:
 
beerlover said:
you proved my point. guess we'll just have to disagree on Bryant. If he was really a "Top 5-10 talent" he would have been selected in "Top 5-10" but real questions of concern dropped his draft stock, right or wrong. I'm proud to say predicted as such along with Awtysst in our mock draft


maybe the crack Dallas GM reads this board & deceided to trade up just ahead of the Ravens to get this guy, in that case I retract my statement, Jerry is at least a great poser :facepalm:
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I didn't prove your point. I pointed out one year in which, I agree, it looks bad but the jury is still out. 2 years ago it was one of the best drafts. This year we will see. He has his ups and downs but it isn't like this Owner and FO haven't had their bad moments. There have been plenty. Don't just have that slip your memory. I give JJ alot of grief but I have to give him his credit too. He has done alot right to go with the wrongs. They go hand and hand with the guy.
 
beerlover said:
you proved my point. guess we'll just have to disagree on Bryant. If he was really a "Top 5-10 talent" he would have been selected in "Top 5-10" but real questions of concern dropped his draft stock, right or wrong. I'm proud to say predicted as such along with Awtysst in our mock draft
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I agree. If we're going to call Dez Bryant a top 5-10 talent, when he wasn't selected in the top 5-10... we might as well call Okam a 1st rounder.

:facepalm:
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree. If we're going to call Dez Bryant a top 5-10 talent, when he wasn't selected in the top 5-10... we might as well call Okam a 1st rounder.

:facepalm:
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Not quite fair. Many of the national pundits had Bryant rated as the top WR in the draft and a top ten talent. If this draft would not have been one of the deepest in years, he would have been a top ten pick, imo.

Okam was a first round mind & talent combined wilth a 10th round desire.
 
JB said:
Not quite fair. Many of the national pundits had Bryant rated as the top WR in the draft and a top ten talent. If this draft would not have been one of the deepest in years, he would have been a top ten pick, imo.

Okam was a first round mind & talent combined wilth a 10th round desire.
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& Dez Bryant is a top ten talent combined with a 24th overall (in a draft when Al Davis is more sane than Jerry Jones) maturity level.
 
thunderkyss said:
& Dez Bryant is a top ten talent combined with a 24th overall (in a draft when Al Davis is more sane than Jerry Jones) maturity level.
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Again, you don't know his maturity level. The guy was suspended for hanging out with Deion. That's it. He was also late a few times. He had a tough upbringing. Gosselin, the #1 drafy guy out there, had him as the pick of the 1st round as far as value. It's not like they got some criminal or druggie or drinker who has been running from the law. It's like people just make stuff up.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Again, you don't know his maturity level. The guy was suspended for hanging out with Deion. That's it. He was also late a few times. He had a tough upbringing. Gosselin, the #1 drafy guy out there, had him as the pick of the 1st round as far as value. It's not like they got some criminal or druggie or drinker who has been running from the law. It's like people just make stuff up.
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The point is, whatever his issues were... NFL teams valued 24 players higher than than Dez Bryant, and whatever character issues there were, or weren't, it played a part. It doesn't matter what value Gosselin, or Kiper, or McShay puts on the guy. He's not a first round pick (Okam) if he wasn't drafted in the first round. He's not a top ten pick (Bryant) if he wasn't drafted in the top ten.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Again, you don't know his maturity level. The guy was suspended for hanging out with Deion. That's it. He was also late a few times. He had a tough upbringing. Gosselin, the #1 drafy guy out there, had him as the pick of the 1st round as far as value. It's not like they got some criminal or druggie or drinker who has been running from the law. It's like people just make stuff up.
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If I were you, I would be more worried about if he can read and comprehend a NFL playbook. This guy is dumb as rocks and I would be surprised if he can read at a 5th grade level.


One suggestion. You might want to tie his shoes in a knot and hang them around his neck so he doesn't forget them at an away game. Cause that would be embarrassing. /sarcasm.
 
thunderkyss said:
The point is, whatever his issues were... NFL teams valued 24 players higher than than Dez Bryant, and whatever character issues there were, or weren't, it played a part. It doesn't matter what value Gosselin, or Kiper, or McShay puts on the guy. He's not a first round pick (Okam) if he wasn't drafted in the first round. He's not a top ten pick (Bryant) if he wasn't drafted in the top ten.
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And part of this is need and position. I'm just putting talent and where they were taken. Part of the drop was needs and part was random rep. I bet if NE snagged him..which they said they might..it would be "genius." Obviously he is the 24th guy taken but drafts have value for a reason.
 
He's got playmaker written all over him. I don't care if they took him 24th or 240th. Just make plays Dez.
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree. If we're going to call Dez Bryant a top 5-10 talent, when he wasn't selected in the top 5-10... we might as well call Okam a 1st rounder.

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This was my original reply.... I guess I got into a discussion, I really shouldn't have. But the point is the same. If Bryant turns out to be the play-maker they thought he was... it was a definite steal. But if he turns out to be just another receiver (which I don't think is the case) then he'll be more akin to Frank Okam. Another guy who graded as a first rounder, but because of other issues... no trouble of any kind... he was taken in the fifth (I think), looking back, that was about right.
 
Terrel Owens, Roy Williams, Pac-Man Jones, Dez Bryant the beat goes on :ant:

in other news if you think the Cowboys are just one or two players away why did they sign so many undrafted free agents, I mean whats the point? conversly the Texans have signed the fewest post draft (undrafted free agents).

Dallas Cowboys
PK Delbert Alvarado, South Florida
DT Junior Aumavae, Minnesota State
OT Will Barker, Virginia
S Barry Church, Toledo
C Phil Costa, Maryland
WR Rashaun Greer, Colorado State
FB Chris Gronkowski, Arizona
WR Terrell Hudgins, Elon
CB Bryan McCann, SMU
S Danny McCray, LSU
RB Lonyae Miller, Fresno State
QB Matt Nichols, Eastern Washington
TE Scott Sicko, New Hampshire
OG Chet Teofilo, California
OT Mike Tepper, California
TE Nick Tow-Arnett, Minnesota
WR Verran Tucker, California
DE Lorenzo Washington, Alabama
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beerlover said:
Terrel Owens, Roy Williams, Pac-Man Jones, Dez Bryant the beat goes on :ant:

in other news if you think the Cowboys are just one or two players away why did they sign so many undrafted free agents, I mean whats the point? conversly the Texans have signed the fewest post draft (undrafted free agents).
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If you are comparing all of those players then you really are a long ways off...a really long ways. All different situations. TO produced. He never got arrested or in trouble really. Did he wear out his welcome..sure. But he did it in SF and Philly too. Roy Williams....no trouble. Bad move for the picks but not a problem. Pac-Man Jones was trouble but he was given a short, incentive laced contract where they wasted no money. He was gone after his screw up. Dez Bryant is a good kid who has never been in trouble with the law, etc. He was late and hung out with Deion. Do we need to go through the bad FA moves and picks from around here too?No team is immune. All of those guys have nothing in common. You have to have more than that.

As far as UDFA. Your statement makes zero sense. You bring in guys for competition and for training camp bodies. Many teams do it. It has no bearing on a teams standings. Your either baiting or your arse is showing. Cleveland signed 1. The Super Bowl champs 14. The Chargers 20. Really?There is a correlation?
 
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