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Kareem Jackson CB Alabama - 1st round pick

Carr Bombed said:
The problem is R. Smith never amounted to nothing as a NFL corner which is now why he enjoys that office. Hope it was the right pick, but I don't think so.
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Only time will tell mi amigo.

Only speculation from here on out..

I was hanging with a bunch of my cowboy buddies and they got dez with their pick (which is who they wanted), I hope to the almighty that Jackson shutsdown bryant (assuming hes covering him).

.....lookin for the stars to align...
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Continued PROFILE

Intangibles: Highly competitive player that puts in time in the film room. Asked for his grade from the NFL Advisory Committee, but didn't read it upon receiving it. Jackson gave the unopened envelope to Nick Saban to hold until after the BCS National Championship game so that the contents wouldn't be a distraction
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Love this entire section.
 
Pocky said:
looks like someone is going to cry himself to sleep. aww.
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I never bitched about a pick until now so ....."no"

I don't like this pick at all. (I actually liked the Gover Quinn pick better)

But let's get all fat and happy, because it's the pick the Texans made...aww
 
Carr Bombed said:
umm do y'all like this pick or are just trying to talk yourselves into this pick? (Sounds like the latter)

I hate this pick BTW. Rings of another "I'm smarter than you are pick" and we all know the last time we had a GM that did that. We could've traded down ant got this guy. there were much better players on the board.
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I doubt it. I'm sure that New England was looking at this guy. You saw the run on corners right? none of the 1-2 grades made it into the second. again I trust the FO when it comes to this.

You gotta stop seeing the glass as half empty. It's just unhealthy. I know how to fix your problem, though, and it involves a large quantity of recently emptied shot glasses.
 
Carr Bombed said:
umm do y'all like this pick or are just trying to talk yourselves into this pick? (Sounds like the latter)

I hate this pick BTW. Rings of another "I'm smarter than you are pick" and we all know the last time we had a GM that did that. We could've traded down ant got this guy. there were much better players on the board.
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No CB, I'm actually okay with this pick.. That said, I would've liked to see the Texans trade either up (maybe to score Earl Thomas) or even traded down to acquire picks - ala New England. That said, I'm okay.
 
Fwiw ESPN had him rated as the #2 corner behind J Haden.

When Wilson was finally picked, Kiper seemed pretty down on him. He said that Wilson was very inconsistent in coverage during the season, adn the only reason he went 1st round was because he had a great week at the senior bowl.

Id rather have a guy who plays all season than a guy looking for a big payday. Guys who preform the best when they know a payday is right around the corner seem more likely to bust. Once he gets the payday, whats his motivation? If he couldn't be consistent at Boise, I don't see the pro game being a whole lot better.

I think Kubiak knows this is a make or break year for him. Jackson is pro ready from day 1. His upside may be lower than Wilson, but his bust potential is a lot lower as well.
 
Texan_Bill said:
No CB, I'm actually okay with this pick.. That said, I would've liked to see the Texans trade either up (maybe to score Earl Thomas) or even traded down to acquire picks - ala New England. That said, I'm okay.
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This team still has to many needs to be giving away draft picks.
 
V3rm0nt3r said:
I doubt it. I'm sure that New England was looking at this guy. You saw the run on corners right? none of the 1-2 grades made it into the second. again I trust the FO when it comes to this.
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Yep, my NE buddy was kinda baffed at passing on Wilson too. But there is a reason he was passed by both teams. And my buddy also really likes Jackson too, so he must have been reading up on them for the Pats and who knows, maybe they had Kareem above McCourty as well.
 
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/rounds

What he brings: Jackson may be the best pure cover corner in this year's draft. Jackson has tremendous feet, balance, anticipation and route-recognition skills when out on an island. He should be able to make a smooth transition to the NFL level coming out of a Nick Saban-coached defense. Video analysis: McShay | Edwards
How he fits: The loss of Dunta Robinson to Atlanta is a big blow and the Texans desperately needed a shutdown corner, so this pick is no surprise. Glover Quinn stepped up solidly as a rookie last season and Jacques Reeves will continue to play, but Jackson could very well provide the Texans with ability to take away half the field.

Great praise.
 
Carr Bombed said:
I never bitched about a pick until now so ....."no"

I don't like this pick at all. (I actually liked the Gover Quinn pick better)

But let's get all fat and happy, because it's the pick the Texans made...aww
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Typing with eyes full of tears and still came out with no grammar problems! But it's alright to boo-hoo when your favooorrite team doesn't draft the guy you like. It's ok though, just convince yourself that everyone else on the board is convincing themselves that they like the pick. Whatever make yourself feel better about the pick.
 
TexMexVato said:
I am bewildered yet intrigued with this pick. Didn't see many mocks with him that high, much less in 1st
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I've got the same concerns....... but I'm still drinking the kool-aide, so...

But what does it mean when the "mockers" don't rate a guy as a first rounder? It's not like they have an intimate understanding of what 32 teams value in a player.

This kid is a 3 year starter on one of the best college football teams over that same period.

He's a junior.

could they have traded down, or picked someone else, and still get this guy later?

Maybe, I don't know.
 
mariowillshine15 said:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/rounds

What he brings: Jackson may be the best pure cover corner in this year's draft. Jackson has tremendous feet, balance, anticipation and route-recognition skills when out on an island. He should be able to make a smooth transition to the NFL level coming out of a Nick Saban-coached defense.
How he fits: The loss of Dunta Robinson to Atlanta is a big blow and the Texans desperately needed a shutdown corner, so this pick is no surprise. Glover Quinn stepped up solidly as a rookie last season and Jacques Reeves will continue to play, but Jackson could very well provide the Texans with ability to take away half the field.

Great praise.
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If that proves true Jackson would be the perfect pickup for us!
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Kareem Jackson Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire

Weaknesses:
Struggles to get off blocks
Not a very physical hitter
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Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and call Matt McGuire ignorant. Alabama is one of the few college teams that I can say I know well enough to comment intelligently upon. Kareem Jackson is plenty physical, and I like him for that. I honestly think Kyle Wilson will be a better cover corner, but Kareem Jackson is probably more able to step in against NFL competition right away.

But hey, we needed a CB and we got one. And he even got a pick last year.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Thus my other point about trading down. Gain picks by trading down. My idea about trading up is solely born out of the fact that I don't remember trading up..
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You need three things to trade down, 1) a partner, 2) a deal worth trading down with and 3) a player you would be happy with at the new spot.

Rick Smith has shown that he will trade down if he gets a deal he likes and can still get a player he likes. Odds are he didn't get an offer that worked for him.

Sometimes standing pat is smarter then trying to out smart the other 31 teams.
 
I was thinking of Jackson more as a early 2nd rounder, but it's hard to argue with the decision making process. In a perfect world, I would have taken the trade-down of 4 spots and likely still picked him up, but apparently the Texans felt different. All in all, a good pick. Let's get Dwyer in Round 2 tomorrow.

Incidently, both ESPN and PFW like the pick a lot -

From ESPN:
What he brings: Jackson may be the best pure cover corner in this year's draft. Jackson has tremendous feet, balance, anticipation and route-recognition skills when out on an island. He should be able to make a smooth transition to the NFL level coming out of a Nick Saban-coached defense. Video analysis: Video McShay | Edwards
How he fits: The loss of Dunta Robinson to Atlanta is a big blow and the Texans desperately needed a shutdown corner, so this pick is no surprise. Glover Quinn stepped up solidly as a rookie last season and Jacques Reeves will continue to play, but Jackson could very well provide the Texans with ability to take away half the field.
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From PFW:
The Texans needed a big, physical cornerback to replace the departed Dunta Robinson, and Jackson fits the bill. He will enter training camp with the expectation to start and should not have any problems after playing every coverage for Nick Saban at Alabama. He is quick to support the run, plays smart and very seldom gets beat, with deceptive functional playing speed given his smooth stride.
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Gooselin had Jackson going to Baltimore at 25. Saying that he fit in with the Ravens physicality and calling Jackson the most physical corner in the draft.
 
TexMexVato said:
I am bewildered yet intrigued with this pick. Didn't see many mocks with him that high, much less in 1st round but I like his pedigree in regards to coming from a championship program. Can't wait for the season to start.
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thunderkyss said:
I've got the same concerns....... but I'm still drinking the kool-aide, so...

But what does it mean when the "mockers" don't rate a guy as a first rounder? It's not like they have an intimate understanding of what 32 teams value in a player.

This kid is a 3 year starter on one of the best college football teams over that same period.

He's a junior.

could they have traded down, or picked someone else, and still get this guy later?

Maybe, I don't know.
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Lance Zierlein had him going #18 in his final mock. Rick Gosselin had him going #25.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
You need three things to trade down, 1) a partner, 2) a deal worth trading down with and 3) a player you would be happy with at the new spot.

Rick Smith has shown that he will trade down if he gets a deal he likes and can still get a player he likes. Odds are he didn't get an offer that worked for him.

Sometimes standing pat is smarter then trying to out smart the other 31 teams.
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Not trying to sound like Switzerland or Sweden, but I agree with that too.
 
Carr Bombed said:
umm do y'all like this pick or are just trying to talk yourselves into this pick? (Sounds like the latter)

I hate this pick BTW. Rings of another "I'm smarter than you are pick" and we all know the last time we had a GM that did that. We could've traded down and got this guy. there were much better players on the board.
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I'm ok with the pick. He's a solid prospect, just not a "WOW! I can't believe we got THAT guy!" type of player.

This is the sort of 'ho-hum going about your business' pick that playoff teams make every year. Hopefully we'll have to get use to that.
 
Pocky said:
Typing with eyes full of tears and still came out with no grammar problems! But it's alright to boo-hoo when your favooorrite team doesn't draft the guy you like. It's ok though, just convince yourself that everyone else on the board is convincing themselves that they like the pick. Whatever make yourself feel better about the pick.
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Umm, what the hell are you talking about here pal? I'm not trying to convince myself or anybody of anything.

I speak my opinion and my opinion is here for everybody to see and read. Instead of getting all emotional/butt hurt over it (LOL, which is exactly what you're doing) where you have to accuse grown men of crying......feel free to bump it later when I'm wrong. (BTW I pray this gets bump...really do) Again you make me laugh with the notion with how the Texans drafted is going to make me "sleep better at night or make me feel better". :rolleyes: the Texans' draft pick didn't flip my thermostat down to 72. I don't let it control my life like apparently you do where you accuse people a physically crying just because they aren't on board with your "pick".
 
I will say it's a hell of a statement that he was the first CB taken. Guess we'll see if Smithiack was right!!!!!

If he ends up bieng a good #1 CB in his first year I will end up with a man crush on Smith!!!!
 
V3rm0nt3r said:
I doubt it. I'm sure that New England was looking at this guy.
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I don't doubt that. Saban coached DBs under Belichick in Cleveland. I think Belichick was a big influence on Saban's coaching style and career. But, if the Pats really, really wanted Jackson, they have the track record that would indicate they could go get him.

However, New England doesn't fall in love with prospects. They trust their board, and if a deal presents itself, they are not afraid to take it. Belichick is likely confident he can coach any of these CBs. Whether he came up with Jackson, McCourty, or another corner, the Pats would be satisfied.
 
Big Lou said:
I will say it's a hell of a statement that he was the first CB taken. Guess we'll see if Smithiack was right!!!!!

If he ends up bieng a good #1 CB in his first year I will end up with a man crush on Smith!!!!
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I second this post....I'll never question him again.

Hell I'll even elevate him above Morey in this town.
 
Big Lou said:
I will say it's a hell of a statement that he was the first CB taken. Guess we'll see if Smithiack was right!!!!!

If he ends up bieng a good #1 CB in his first year I will end up with a man crush on Smith!!!!
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Except that Joe Haden was the first CB taken...
 
every year theres a guy with no expertise whatsoever that hates the texans pick just because of their gut. its so old yet it keeps happening.

for the record, i thought it was a meh pick when it was announced- very similiar to how i felt with cushing last yr actually and just like then im going to give kareem and the FO the benefit of the doubt until he gets on the field. from the sounds of it hes the brian cushing of corners- not an exceptional athlete but a physical and tough son of a ***** so il give the pick an early thumbs up based on what ive read
 
Hey, let's concentrate on discussing the Texans draft, rather than whatever motivation individual posters may or may not have. Stay focused, we have 2 more days yet to go.
 
Maddict5 said:
every year theres a guy with no expertise whatsoever that hates the texans pick just because of their gut. its so old yet it keeps happening.

for the record, i thought it was a meh pick when it was announced- very similiar to how i felt with cushing last yr actually and just like then im going to give kareem and the FO the benefit of the doubt until he gets on the field. from the sounds of it hes the brian cushing of corners- not an exceptional athlete but a physical and tough son of a ***** so il give the pick an early thumbs up based on what ive read
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except I liked Brian Cushing....so

I did not like the Amboi Okoye pick though, but I was out of states to comment and just hoped for the best....still do
 
Picking later in the rounds, I think you have to trust the front office with these picks and not think that Joe Blow analyst has anywhere near the same time involved with scouting and rating a player that an NFL team has. The TV guys often just parrot each other and "unnamed sources" that could be full of smoke and BS.
The Texans have a well respected scouting dept. and I'm perfectly willing to go with them on this pick.
 
I guess what upset me about the pick was I don't know asa much about Jackson as I did Wilson and McCourty. He seems like a solid pick but with all the retarded trading teams (the Broncos) were doing with each other I was thinking we would've landed Wilson.

Hopefully he's successful in his transition, we could definitely use more talent there. Kudos for getting the position right, may the player be all you hoped he can be.

Also, lol @ Jaguars.
 
nm. just saw the mods post.

Anywho. I think this is a decent pick, better then taking Wilson IMO. He did get visited/made visits to NE, and NYJ, two other teams that took CB in the first, shortly after us. Not saying that they would've took him over the CB they themselves drafted, but it was possible that we weren't the only one that rated Jackson as the 2nd CB in the draft(assuming the Texans had Haden as CB #1.)

Wish we could've gotten Williams though. Would've been a tremendous steal for us at #20.
 
Lucky said:
Hey, let's concentrate on discussing the Texans draft, rather than whatever motivation individual posters may or may not have. Stay focused, we have 2 more days yet to go.
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Hey, let's concentrate on discussing the Texans draft, rather than discussing what people are saying about whatever motivation individual posters may or may not have. Stay focused, we have 2 more days yet to go.

Holy crap... it's like looking into a picture of you looking into a picture of you looking into a picture of you looking into a picture...

infinite_reflection.jpg


I don't know if anyone else gets this, but that's probably because I don't know if anyone else is drunk
 
HoustonSportsFan09 said:
ZReportDraft

The Broncos and the Patriots understand how to work the draft and let the draft work for you. I honestly don't think the Texans know how
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It's all about what you do with those extra picks. The Patriots haven't exactly done a tremendous job drafting over the last few years (Mayo being an exception). Denver traded back 54 times and then traded back up to get Tebow. He might work out, but it's uncertain.

I wouldn't have been against trading back, but you need a player that someone wants and you have to be willing to give up a guy you might want. I don't know how the Texans staff had the available DBs rated.
 
Lucky said:
It's all speculation. I'm not suggesting that Jackson wasn't a good college corner. Bama had the best defense in college football. Jackson was certainly a big part of that. But, he played on a team with a ton of NFL prospects. McClain has already been drafted. Cody and Arenas will go later. Their two best players, Dareus & Barron, aren't even draft eligible. Sometimes, it's hard to judge just how good a player is when surrounded with that type of talent.
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He's stepping into a defense with some very good players, though. It could be a better situation for him than if he were drafted by the Lions.
 
b0ng said:
I guess what upset me about the pick was I don't know asa much about Jackson as I did Wilson and McCourty. He seems like a solid pick but with all the retarded trading teams (the Broncos) were doing with each other I was thinking we would've landed Wilson.

Hopefully he's successful in his transition, we could definitely use more talent there. Kudos for getting the position right, may the player be all you hoped he can be.

Also, lol @ Jaguars.
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I'm on the same page as you, I wanted Wilson simply because I know a bit more about him. After reading up on Jackson though he looks pretty good. The "experts" say he is the most NFL ready, which is a good thing since he is going to be a big part of our defense right from week one when we play the Colts.

And yes, I too find it funny that the Jags took a guy that most thought was a second rounder, plus they didn't get Tebow. Not a good day to be a jags fan lol.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
You need three things to trade down, 1) a partner, 2) a deal worth trading down with and 3) a player you would be happy with at the new spot.

Rick Smith has shown that he will trade down if he gets a deal he likes and can still get a player he likes. Odds are he didn't get an offer that worked for him.

Sometimes standing pat is smarter then trying to out smart the other 31 teams.
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First chance I've had to weigh in on this draft pick.

I really like the pick. I am not IN LOVE with it, but I really like it.

With Dez Bryant still there, I was flirting with the idea of having another Andre Johnson out there for the offense to get the ball to. I even thought that we might take the bait, with Kubiak not being able to walk away from what might be a really good WR in a few years.

When Kareem was announced, and I saw he was from Alabama...then they showed the combine footage of him...I was impressed with how tightly-coiled he stays while tracking the receiver during the route--He has a spring that Kyle Wilson does not have.

It appears that Kyle plays things safe, staying shallow at the snap. Kareem, based on the limited footage I saw tonight, looks like a guy who is going to first try to beat the receiver to the place the receiver wants to go, then Kareem is going to hand-fight as the ball is coming into the area of the receiver's grasp.

I also can rest in knowing that Saban's Crimson Tide team is no joke. The guys on that team are for real. While I appreciate the job Kyle Wilson did against TCU in the bowl game this year, I will take an SEC starting CB vs. just about any other conference's CB that's out there. When you play in the SEC for three years as a starting CB, you're seeing LOTS of good WRs on a weekly basis. You can't escape the challenges that it brings you.

Here's food for thought, since people think we could have traded down and got him anyways: What if the Jets had targeted Jackson the whole time, and we ended up taking him from them? What if the only reason Kyle Wilson is on the Jets is because we stayed put and drafted the guy we wanted?

I had said, all along, that I wanted to see Smithiak just stand down and refuse to get involved in the cute trades. I was hoping we would stay at 20 and just grab one of the guys Smithiak felt good with drafting at 20.

The pick is a NEED pick, and it was not a reach (in my opinion). Kareem had no real "hype" and that's why it's falling flat on some people's opinion machine. But hey, you have to be picking in the Top 3 or 4 or 5 in order to get all the media analysts to rant and rave about the guy you just drafted. And frankly, I am glad our pick was met with what I consider to be quiet praise.

Besides, Mayock freaking called us the Houston Oilers earlier when Ryan Mathews was drafted early. Really? The Oilers? WTH, Mayock. Get some sleep already.
 
Time for my annual "why the hell can't we ever address FS in the high rounds post" yet? Nah, wait to see if they ignore it for the next few rounds. I'm not a fan of the pick (suprise!) But then again anything but FS is a disappointment for me. Gotta wait and watch footage on him to learn more before I really have an opinion. Was personally just glad it wasn't Ryan Matthews.

Which list will Mr. Jackson end up on?


Texans bad first round picks
Travis Johnson
David Carr
Jason Babin


Texans Good first round picks
Andre Johnson
Mario Williams
Dunta Robinson
Brian Cushing

Time will tell I spose. Color me quietly unenthused for right now. Hopefully I'll come around later. I haven't been this sad on a first round draft day since Duane Brown though. Meh.
 
The1ApplePie said:
Whatever you feel about the pick,

at least we didn't trade a bunch of picks so we could draft Tim Tebow in round 1
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Yeah, that left me with my jaw on the ground and seriously blinking over and over as I refused to believe that Josh McDaniels is going to build that Broncos team around Tim Tebow.

Did they not see how Tebow got absolutely eaten and fully digested, then crapped out into a toilet bowl, during the SEC championship game vs. 'Bama? I mean, I was a little crazy and had thought maybe Tebow had the goods...until I watched that SEC title game and came to my senses.

Wowzers. Josh McDaniels is on crack.
 
FWIW, I could have lived with drafting the center from Florida had he been there for us.

Myers is going to get schooled by the Jags' new Samoan and the Titans' new defensive lineman. Looks like they each know the way to Schaub's heart is through the belly of Myers.
 
I like the pick.....maybe not flashy, but definitely solid. The best part about not feeling nearly as thrilled about it all is the fact that we earned this, our lowest first-round pick in franchise history. Whenever draft day can become less exciting than the previous season(s).....hey, I'm all for that.

We addressed a known need with a player who seems ready to go from day one. I consider that a success.

Sorry to see Dez go to Cowtown - I've watched him play since he was at Lufkin, and my Dad's an OSU alum, so I saw him a lot there too. The character issues are highly overrated - He's gonna surprise some people.....hopefully KJ can cover him! At least he wasn't drafted into our division.
 
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