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Kareem Jackson CB Alabama - 1st round pick

HoustonSportsFan09 said:
ZReportDraft

The Broncos and the Patriots understand how to work the draft and let the draft work for you. I honestly don't think the Texans know how
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If the guy you want is there, you take him. McCourty was there and was a fringe 1st rounder...and the pats took him. Wilson is falling for a reason.

Also, the texans tend to draft quite soundly so i trust the pick.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Except for this bit of unfortunate business:



That said, I'm still good with the pick.
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It seems like there's a difference of opinion between the analysts. Some say he's a great tackler. otherrs not so great. I think this is a good pick my, myself.
 
DocBar said:
It seems like there's a difference of opinion between the analysts. Some say he's a great tackler. otherrs not so great. I think this is a good pick my, myself.
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Looks like he may be more of a hitter than a wrap up form tackler.
 
It's all a crap shoot anyway. No matter who you take in what round, they can become great players or incredible busts. They took a position in the 1st round that we needed badly, so I'm good.

Now we wait an see what he does for us, because none of us knows that yet.
 
The1ApplePie said:
Wasn't Kareem the No. 2 CB behind Arenas?
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I remember Arenas making more plays. But, that could mean that Arenas was considered the weaker corner, thus tested more.

JB said:
Absolutely not! Did you watch the Championship game? Jackson much more impressive in coverage than Arenas. Totally shut down Shipley whe he was on the outside. And any other receiver the Horns had on the outside.
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Yes, but would that have been the same story had McCoy played the entire game, rather than a freshman QB?
 
Solid pick but there were better players on the board imo. He could have been attainable had we traded down a few spots.
 
Lucky said:
I remember Arenas making more plays. But, that could mean that Arenas was considered the weaker corner, thus tested more.


Yes, but would that have been the same story had McCoy played the entire game, rather than a freshman QB?
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Oh effin' BOO! I was feeling good about him because of shutting down Shipley. Ugh. Reality sinks in... thanks, Lucky. Thanks.

:lol:
 
Lucky said:
I remember Arenas making more plays. But, that could mean that Arenas was considered the weaker corner, thus tested more.


Yes, but would that have been the same story had McCoy played the entire game, rather than a freshman QB?
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I think so. His defense stood out more after Davis finally started letting Gilbert throw
 
The more I think about it the more I think Kareem sounds like a more athletic/polished (or tested rather) Glover Quinn. If Jackson is anything like Quinn was as a rookie he'll be a very good player for us :)

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1115231

Positives: Adequate height and very solid overall build for a corner or free safety. … Has the strength to jam on the line. … Likes contact, will bring his hips and wrap up in the open field. … Good awareness, reads screens, play action and misdirection. … High-points the football and had good hands for the interception. … Breaks up passes by jumping routes or fighting for the ball in the air. … Returned 10 kickoffs for 323 yards as a senior and can be dangerous running back interceptions. … Played through pain and returned quickly from groin surgery during junior season. … Physical runner on returns -- goes straight upfield, is willing to take a hit and can bounce off to get additional yardage.

Negatives: Some teams will grade him as a safety and cornerback "tweener." … Does not have great straight-line or recovery speed. … Best when attacking the play in front of him. … Will throw his shoulder to make a hit instead of wrapping up. … Lacks great height and vertical leap to challenge tall NFL receivers. … Inconsistent getting off receiver blocks on the edge. … Lacks great quickness, vision or speed on returns.

Compares To: MELVIN BULLITT, Indianapolis -- With his downhill tackling ability, raw strength and ability to freelance and get to the ball, Quin might be a better fit as a safety. He has marginal hips when trying to cover the receiver deep, and despite his timed speed his acceleration tapers off when having to run long distances, making a move inside more logical.
 
I always like to pick up Alabama defenders but this is just an 'ok' pick for me. I was looking at him as our second round pick before he started getting some media hype around the senior bowl. I think we could have done better, but with Smith's draft history we probably could have done a lot worse too.
 
NitroHonda said:
Oh effin' BOO! I was feeling good about him because of shutting down Shipley. Ugh. Reality sinks in... thanks, Lucky. Thanks.

:lol:
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JB said:
I think so. His defense stood out more after Davis finally started letting Gilbert throw
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It's all speculation. I'm not suggesting that Jackson wasn't a good college corner. Bama had the best defense in college football. Jackson was certainly a big part of that. But, he played on a team with a ton of NFL prospects. McClain has already been drafted. Cody and Arenas will go later. Their two best players, Dareus & Barron, aren't even draft eligible. Sometimes, it's hard to judge just how good a player is when surrounded with that type of talent.
 
Lucky said:
It's all speculation. I'm not suggesting that Jackson wasn't a good college corner. Bama had the best defense in college football. Jackson was certainly a big part of that. But, he played on a team with a ton of NFL prospects. McClain has already been drafted. Cody and Arenas will go later. Their two best players, Dareus & Barron, aren't even draft eligible. Sometimes, it's hard to judge just how good a player is when surrounded with that type of talent.
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I totally agree. The same things were said about Cushing and Matthews last year however
 
Lucky said:
It's all speculation. I'm not suggesting that Jackson wasn't a good college corner. Bama had the best defense in college football. Jackson was certainly a big part of that. But, he played on a team with a ton of NFL prospects. McClain has already been drafted. Cody and Arenas will go later. Their two best players, Dareus & Barron, aren't even draft eligible. Sometimes, it's hard to judge just how good a player is when surrounded with that type of talent.
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Well, in his defense, if he wasn't any good--or as good as the players you named--he wouldn't have started as a freshman or started during his sophmore and junior year. Especially with Saban as his coach. So, he must definitely have the skill and the ability to hold his own.
 
Lucky said:
It's all speculation. I'm not suggesting that Jackson wasn't a good college corner. Bama had the best defense in college football. Jackson was certainly a big part of that. But, he played on a team with a ton of NFL prospects. McClain has already been drafted. Cody and Arenas will go later. Their two best players, Dareus & Barron, aren't even draft eligible. Sometimes, it's hard to judge just how good a player is when surrounded with that type of talent.
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Absolutely but I also thought the same thing about the USC LBs. Gilbert was an embarrasment. Helluva way to be shoved into the limelight though. Your point is very valid. I think I pretty much like what I've read up on Jackson thus far. Also look at Oklahoma putting up 3 of the top 4 picks this year. National contenders is the main ingredient here. Alabama's got a pretty stout scent.

I guess I give the pick a B? Whatever that means...
 
We needed starter caliber CB. Our FO believe Jackson has more value than other 2 CBs. I am good with this pick. Are we going to draft RB in the 2nd rd.?

Go Texans!!!
 
I am bewildered yet intrigued with this pick. Didn't see many mocks with him that high, much less in 1st round but I like his pedigree in regards to coming from a championship program. Can't wait for the season to start.
 
The durable and consistent cornerback played in every game for the Crimson Tide over the past three seasons, starting the last 38 contests.
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that line stood out to me more than any other. a 3 year starter for for the top defense in college football without missing a game speaks volumes. obviously the kid's talented enough to be taken in the first round, but of the options (wilson, mccourty), kareem appears to be the most complete and proven.
 
umm do y'all like this pick or are just trying to talk yourselves into this pick? (Sounds like the latter)

I hate this pick BTW. Rings of another "I'm smarter than you are pick" and we all know the last time we had a GM that did that. We could've traded down and got this guy. there were much better players on the board.
 
SAMURAITEXAN said:
Are we going to draft RB in the 2nd rd.?
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As long as there is one still available, that they value in the 2nd round. How many RBs that carry a 2nd round grade are left? 3 or 4? I would think that at least one would be left. I just don't know if will be one that the Texans like.
 
m5kwatts said:
The Texans know more than we do, they employ and pay an entire scouting department to sit around and evaluate these guys.
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agreed. I liked wilson over jackson, but I trust the Texans FO when it comes to these close picks.

Plus Rick Smith was a corner, theres a reason hes getting paid millions to make these picks.

Hopefully this was the right choice.

Hopefully.........Plus Im good and drunk.
 
TexMexVato said:
I am bewildered yet intrigued with this pick. Didn't see many mocks with him that high, much less in 1st round but I like his pedigree in regards to coming from a championship program. Can't wait for the season to start.
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This is kind of how i'm feeling. When I saw Dan Williams (Even though he's a 3-4 NT I wanted him) and Wilson there I thought it would be one of them but Bush earned my respect over the 2nd part of the season so if he thinks he'll fill in better for Dunta than Wilson could than I'm cool with this selection. Hey, at least we don't have to wast our time trying to understand Jacksonville's pick right?
 
Carr Bombed said:
umm do y'all like this pick or are just trying to talk yourselves into this pick? (Sounds like the latter)

I hate this pick BTW. Rings of another "I'm smarter than you are pick" and we all know the last time we had a GM that did that. We could've traded down ant got this guy. there were much better players on the board.
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Was Belichick being "I'm smarter than you are also?" Or maybe both teams were being smarter than the pundits. Folks act like Wilson was always a surefire 1st round pick when he carried a 2nd round grade into the Senior Bowl.
 
2slik4u said:
agreed. I liked wilson over jackson, but I trust the Texans FO when it comes to these close picks.

Plus Rick Smith was a corner, theres a reason hes getting paid millions to make these picks.

Hopefully this was the right choice.

Hopefully.........Plus Im good and drunk.
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The problem is R. Smith never amounted to nothing as a NFL corner which is now why he enjoys that office. Hope it was the right pick, but I don't think so.
 
Carr Bombed said:
umm do y'all like this pick or are just trying to talk yourselves into this pick? (Sounds like the latter)

I hate this pick BTW. Rings of another "I'm smarter than you are pick" and we all know the last time we had a GM that did that. We could've traded down ant got this guy. there were much better players on the board.
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looks like someone is going to cry himself to sleep. aww.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Rings of another "I'm smarter than you are pick" and we all know the last time we had a GM that did that. We could've traded down ant got this guy.
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Though our point regarding trading down might be valid, I don't see this as a cute pick. I look at Jackson more as a safe pick, a good athlete, from a good program, from a good conference. Not a lot of risk. Maybe not a lot of upside. Kind of like playing not to lose. Completely different from the Okoye and Brown picks from previous drafts.
 
Carr Bombed said:
umm do y'all like this pick or are just trying to talk yourselves into this pick? (Sounds like the latter)

I hate this pick BTW. Rings of another "I'm smarter than you are pick" and we all know the last time we had a GM that did that. We could've traded down ant got this guy. there were much better players on the board.
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I like filling our biggest need by getting a physical corner from a big school like bama.

I would have taken Wilson, but I would have been fine taking Jackson, McCourtey, and Robinson.

Just be glad we didnt pull a Jag and draft Alualu in the top 10.
 
Carr Bombed said:
umm do y'all like this pick are just trying to talk yourselves into this pick? (Sounds like the latter)

I hate this pick BTW. Rings of another "I'm smarter than you are pick" and we all know the last time we had a GM that did that. We could've traded down ant got this guy.
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i just wanted the texans to take the top DB on their board, and they did that. i would've preferred to luck into earl thomas, but once he was gone i knew i'd be excited with the most "now" ready defensive back possible ... that's kareem jackson.
 
Lucky said:
Though our point regarding trading down might be valid, I don't see this as a cute pick. I look at Jackson more as a safe pick, a good athlete, from a good program, from a good conference. Not a lot of risk. Maybe not a lot of upside. Kind of like playing not to lose. Completely different from the Okoye and Brown picks from previous drafts.
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From what I am reading... alot of people have Jackson as one of or even the most NFL ready CB in the draft. And remember, he declared a year early too.

I find it hard to really hate any pick, especially when it fills a need. Too much ball to be played to truly determine how we did.
 
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