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TC had a good point about Brian Pariani being a very logical step. He's been with Kubiak since SF and through Den. Not to mention he's obviously done a very impressive job with Daniels and Dreesen. I do think it will be someone from within. I think you can expect that kind of decision making from this organization for years to come. Keeping it in the family maintains cohesion.
 
Thorn said:
Well, I guess i was wrong about little Shanny leaving. LOL
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So was I Thorn. Dummy me for believing him when he said he wanted to do his own thing and not shadow his Dad. Just used the Texans for his training ground. BOOOOO to him and I hope the Redskins SUCK under the Shanny's!!!
 
Chron article

The four candidates to replace Texans offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan are Tennessee offensive line coach Mike Munchak, Denver offensive line coach Rick Dennison, Atlanta quarterbacks coach Bill Musgrave and Kansas City offensive coordinator Chan Gailey.

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"I want somebody with me I'm comfortable with calling the plays," Kubiak said. ""We're going to spend a lot of time working together, and we have to be on the same page. He's going to be a guy I'll be dealing with every day."

Kubiak worked with Dennison, Musgrave and Gailey in Denver. He's never worked with Munchak, who has spent his entire 28-year playing and coaching career the Oilers/Titans.

Munchak has never been an offensive coordinator. He's coached the offensive line since he retired after the 1993 season.
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Out of those guys, I think Dennison and Musgrave might be good fits. If Shanahan goes Redskins, I think both the Texans and Redskins may want to raid the Denver coaches some more.

I don't see Gailey, and though I'd like Munchak to be away from the Titans, I'm not sure he is a good fit with Kubiak. I think they want to avoid the Kubiak-Sherman sort of thing again--where the OC has a different philosophy than the head coach. That's how I see the "same page" sort of comment, and why Kubiak was very happy getting Shanahan as a replacement for Sherman--because he knew the system very well.

Also, I would suggest Brian Pariani. He knows that offense as well as anyone on the Texans. Pariani is very close to Kubiak and a sensible guy.
 
I would be suprised if it wasn't Dennison or Musgrave. Kubiak doesn't like to get out of his comfort zone.
 
b0ng said:
It's probably been a dream of Kyle's to have the headset on during a game his dad was coaching. Can't fault him for that.

Serious post: Make Bruce Matthews call Munchak immediatley.
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Good thing his dad isn't a garbage man. Then it would be a real crappy decision. (nothing against garbage men)
 
I wasn't around (a fan at least) during the Oiler glory days but Munchak and Matthews together on this staff sounds great to me. Plus it weakens the Titans. Different philosophy or not they field one of the finest O-lines year in and year out.
 
Tailgate said:
Agreed. But the purpose here is for him to go and work and build with his dad. I guess he could have waited just ONE year though...
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But if Mike Shanahan's offense in Washington does well his first season, would he just fire the OC to have Kyle take his place? Would he be willing to work as a positions coach just to work with his dad? If he wants to work with Shanahan Sr then this is the time to do it.
 
barrett said:
TC had a good point about Brian Pariani being a very logical step. He's been with Kubiak since SF and through Den. Not to mention he's obviously done a very impressive job with Daniels and Dreesen. I do think it will be someone from within. I think you can expect that kind of decision making from this organization for years to come. Keeping it in the family maintains cohesion.
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If not someone from within then somebody he has a history with. I think Kubiak has never really stopped being our OC for the most part so losing Shanahan won't make much of a difference to the Texans.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Chron article



Out of those guys, I think Dennison and Musgrave might be good fits. If Shanahan goes Redskins, I think both the Texans and Redskins may want to raid the Denver coaches some more.

I don't see Gailey, and though I'd like Munchak to be away from the Titans, I'm not sure he is a good fit with Kubiak. I think they want to avoid the Kubiak-Sherman sort of thing again--where the OC has a different philosophy than the head coach. That's how I see the "same page" sort of comment, and why Kubiak was very happy getting Shanahan as a replacement for Sherman--because he knew the system very well.

Also, I would suggest Brian Pariani. He knows that offense as well as anyone on the Texans. Pariani is very close to Kubiak and a sensible guy.
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DING DING DING!!! I agree with this and slightly like Musgrave over Dennison b/c of his experience with Schaub
 
Has anyone considered just not hiring an offensive coordinator like the Patriots did when McDaniels left? We don't HAVE to have an OC if Kubiak is gonna take over the play-calling which I assume he'll do going into a lame duck year (no extension, must save his own ass)
 
Section516 said:
So, what high end O cords are there on the market?

Charlie Weis comes to mind...

Any others?
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Whats Mike Martz up to these days? With good players he was able to put together the greatest show on turf. Imagine what he could do with our team!
 
my next door neighbor's brother who's a douche said earlier
"how 'bout mike leach as yall oc once shanny jr leaves?"
i hate him
 
gary said:
McLady is a hot water bottle. LOL
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Here he is , in uniform .


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One thing that bugs me a bit, the article states: "Kubiak didn't disclose any names on his list, but at the top are, in no apparent order, Munchak, Dennison, Musgrave and Gailey."

If Kubiak didn't disclose any names whose list is this?
 
Jackie Chiles said:
One thing that bugs me a bit, the article states: "Kubiak didn't disclose any names on his list, but at the top are, in no apparent order, Munchak, Dennison, Musgrave and Gailey."

If Kubiak didn't disclose any names whose list is this?
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Lol check the list for fecal stains because the media pulled those names out of their ass
 
m5kwatts said:
Has anyone considered just not hiring an offensive coordinator like the Patriots did when McDaniels left? We don't HAVE to have an OC if Kubiak is gonna take over the play-calling which I assume he'll do going into a lame duck year (no extension, must save his own ass)
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If past action prove to be a predictor, I am guessing that the guys he wanted before Rick Dennison will end up as OC.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
If past action prove to be a predictor, I am guessing that the guys he wanted before Rick Dennison will end up as OC.
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Whats bizarre is the contract the OC will sign, why would we give an OC a contract thats more secure than the head coaches? What OC will want to sign a 1 year deal? All signs point to it being an internal hire unless they just don't hire an OC at all
 
Jackie Chiles said:
One thing that bugs me a bit, the article states: "Kubiak didn't disclose any names on his list, but at the top are, in no apparent order, Munchak, Dennison, Musgrave and Gailey."

If Kubiak didn't disclose any names whose list is this?
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Its McClain's list.

McClain was just on 610 and stated the Munchak was a dark horse in this race with 2 strikes against him. 1st, he's still under contract with the Titians & 2nd, Bud Adams is unlikely to release him from said contract. Apparently, Bud doesn't like us very much and won't let any of his coaches come over here. Oh well.

McClain thinks the front runner is Musgraves and I can't remember why, sorry.

Dennison was a close second.
 
treduke said:
my next door neighbor's brother who's a douche said earlier
"how 'bout mike leach as yall oc once shanny jr leaves?"
i hate him
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too bad for leach, but you can't keep running the same 4 plays over and over in the NFL :tease:
 
Hagar said:
Its McClain's list.

McClain was just on 610 and stated the Munchak was a dark horse in this race with 2 strikes against him. 1st, he's still under contract with the Titians & 2nd, Bud Adams is unlikely to release him from said contract. Apparently, Bud doesn't like us very much and won't let any of his coaches come over here. Oh well.

McClain thinks the front runner is Musgraves and I can't remember why, sorry.

Dennison was a close second.
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Musgrave used to be Schaub's coach is what first came to mind
 
m5kwatts said:
Has anyone considered just not hiring an offensive coordinator like the Patriots did when McDaniels left? We don't HAVE to have an OC if Kubiak is gonna take over the play-calling which I assume he'll do going into a lame duck year (no extension, must save his own ass)
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I just don't feel comfortable with Kubiak doing this...Belichick is seasoned enough to handle the OC job as well as run the team during a game. Kubiak has had some trouble managing the game with a full staff. Maybe after a couple of SB wins :brando:
 
playa465 said:
I just don't feel comfortable with Kubiak doing this...Belichick is seasoned enough to handle the OC job as well as run the team during a game. Kubiak has had some trouble managing the game with a full staff. Maybe after a couple of SB wins :brando:
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I think it makes sense financially in that you're not paying an OC to do something Kubiak has excelled at before and would do better than anyone else available. Gary said he wants someone to call plays but if I'm McNair I say I don't want to give an OC a multi-year contract (and in turn more security than Kubiak) and then have to fire that guy next year if I choose not to give Kubiak an extension. Unless the OC will accept a 1 year deal and an understanding that the head coach could be replaced next year, I force Kubiak's hand and make him the head coach/offensive coordinator.
 
m5kwatts said:
Whats bizarre is the contract the OC will sign, why would we give an OC a contract thats more secure than the head coaches? What OC will want to sign a 1 year deal? All signs point to it being an internal hire unless they just don't hire an OC at all
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Well, I live in the land of Jerry Jones, where the OC and the "head coach" make nearly the exact money and the OC was hired before the so-call head coach, so anything is possible. That said, I don't think McNair operates in that manner. I believe that Kubiak will be allowed to hire the OC he wants. You may have more info than me, but are the indications in Houston than Uncle Bob won't extent Kubiak for a couple of years to match the QB and GM?
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
Well, I live in the land of Jerry Jones, where the OC and the "head coach" make nearly the exact money and the OC was hired before the so-call head coach, so anything is possible. That said, I don't think McNair operates in that manner. I believe that Kubiak will be allowed to hire the OC he wants. You may have more info than me, but are the indications in Houston than Uncle Bob won't extent Kubiak for a couple of years to match the QB and GM?
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The only indication I have is that it hasn't happened yet. It appears McNair is going to let Kubiak go lame duck into this year with no new contract and only the 2010 season left. I would think that there would have been an indication of an extension at his press conference at his home yesterday where all he did was confirm that he'll be the coach for next season.
 
m5kwatts said:
I think it makes sense financially in that you're not paying an OC to do something Kubiak has excelled at before and would do better than anyone else available. Gary said he wants someone to call plays but if I'm McNair I say I don't want to give an OC a multi-year contract (and in turn more security than Kubiak) and then have to fire that guy next year if I choose not to give Kubiak an extension. Unless the OC will accept a 1 year deal and an understanding that the head coach could be replaced next year, I force Kubiak's hand and make him the head coach/offensive coordinator.
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I understand your point and it makes sense...I just personally feel that if Kubiak does both, some other aspect will get missed...especially during a game.
 
i found a couple of obvious candidates:

Kubiak and his wife, Rhonda, have three sons, Klint, Klay, and Klein. Klint is a fifth-year safety and Klay is a sophomore quarterback at Colorado State. Klein is a freshman wide receiver at Rice
 
blitz90 said:
Where'd Mclain get that list? He surely pulled it out of his ass i'm assuming.
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Actually, McLame has decent contacts within the league. He is horrible with analysis, but when he names names like this it is probably from a solid contact.
 
gtexan02 said:
What a stupid move by Shannahan. If he stayed another year and we had another successful offensive attack, he'd be in line for a big promotion.

Instead he's going to one of the worst offensive teams in the league with no QB, poor WRs, and a cloudy running back situation
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Promotion to what? Actually calling the plays here? I don't get why some people on the board seem enamored by or think losing Kyle will be a big blow.

Tailgate said:
SUX to lose Kyle. Dammit.
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Why?

Hervoyel said:
If not someone from within then somebody he has a history with. I think Kubiak has never really stopped being our OC for the most part so losing Shanahan won't make much of a difference to the Texans.
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Bingo. With a lame duck year looming I don't really expect him to go outside of the organization unless he has to. If he does it will be someone he is comfortable with and likely won't question his playing calling unless he actually turns over play calling to someone.

awtysst said:
Whats Mike Martz up to these days? With good players he was able to put together the greatest show on turf. Imagine what he could do with our team!
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The only problem I have with Martz is QBs in his system get killed. Matt finally has shaked some of his durability questions this year, but I think some concerns will linger until he proves it again next year. I think it's a bad match.
 
Goatcheese said:
Kubiak. Just like every other year.
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That's the real answer.

One name I heard mentioned this morning was USC OC Jeremy Bates, a former Broncos QB coach & playcaller and Rice QB. He never coached with Kubiak, but he did mentor under Jon Gruden, Mike Heimerdinger, and Daddy Shanny.
 
Hagar said:
Its McClain's list.

McClain was just on 610 and stated the Munchak was a dark horse in this race with 2 strikes against him. 1st, he's still under contract with the Titians & 2nd, Bud Adams is unlikely to release him from said contract. Apparently, Bud doesn't like us very much and won't let any of his coaches come over here. Oh well.
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If Munchak is getting promoted though, don't they have to let him out of his contract?
 
b0ng said:
If Munchak is getting promoted though, don't they have to let him out of his contract?
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Nope, they changed the rules a few years back, and the only move that's considered a promotion is from asst. coach to head coach. Beyond that, all assistants are created equal (for this purpose). That's why the Redskins were able to turn down the Texans last off-season when they wanted to interview Jerry Grey for the then open DC position.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Nope, they changed the rules a few years back, and the only move that's considered a promotion is from asst. coach to head coach. Beyond that, all assistants are created equal (for this purpose). That's why the Redskins were able to turn down the Texans last off-season when they wanted to interview Jerry Grey for the then open DC position.
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Yep. Teams HAVE to let assistants interview for head coaching jobs, but that's it.

I think it's fair. The assistant coaching ranks are the trenches, where the every day work gets done. I wouldn't want anyone randomly poaching my assistants if I were an owner or head coach.
 
houstonspartan said:
Yep. Teams HAVE to let assistants interview for head coaching jobs, but that's it.

I think it's fair. The assistant coaching ranks are the trenches, where the every day work gets done. I wouldn't want anyone randomly poaching my assistants if I were an owner or head coach.
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True and at one point you would interview a position coach for a coordinator position and that was all on the up and up. In recent years there has been much asshattery with titles to get around the rules on pinching other teams assistants. Guys get hired from a DC position to go fill another DC position that just happens to have an "Assistant Head Coach" title tacked on to it for instance.
 
Just wanted everybodys oppinion on how losing Kyle Shanahan, or any of the other coaching staff is going to affect us next year.
 
i think our play calling will be better next year without him... i think little shanny was thrown into the OC roll way way to early.. IMO
 
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