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Romo and TO tift

T.O. speaks out and the circus is propogated by others on the team.............No different than every other past venue that T.O. has "blessed." Someone is always going to respond to his antics at one time or another. It just boils until it blows. In time, under these recurrent situations any team will eventually internally self-combust. Contrary to Jerry's early assessment, it CAN and IS happening with his Girls.



From PFT:

WAS WITTEN WERDER’S SOURCE?
Posted by Mike Florio on December 12, 2008, 5:09 p.m.
As it turns out, Terrell Owens’ suspicions regarding teammate Jason Witten might have been on the mark.

The talk in the Cowboys locker room is that Witten was one of the sources for Ed Werder’s recent ESPN item, which has sparked a firestorm within the organization.

Per a league source, center Andre Gurode and receiver Roy Williams called out Witten in a team meeting regarding their belief that he has been talking out of school to Werder, accusing Witten and/or his agent of feeding the information to Werder — as the song “Back Stabbers” played in the background.

According to our source (and it pains us to type this), Owens isn’t as bad as he’s made out to be in the media (i.e., by ESPN).

“Ed Werder didn’t make anything up,” the source said. “Witten or his agent gave the story.”

And here’s where it gets really interesting. Witten’s agent is Jimmy Sexton. And Sexton represents — you guessed it — former Cowboys coach Bill Parcells.

Parcells wanted no part of Owens, and presumably Parcells would love nothing more than to see the Cowboys fail to make the playoffs in the same year that Parcells is in the process of propelling the previously 1-15 Fins toward the postseason.

We’re not saying that Tuna has his finger in this one, after all he’s not the kind of guy who’d stick his nose in business that doesn’t pertain to him. We’re just pointing out the straight line from Witten to Sexton to Parcells, who by the way drafted Witten in 2003, the same year that Parcells signed Romo as an undrafted free agent.
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HoustonFrog said:
This thing is never going to end

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3764732
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Michael Irvin said on his Dallas ESPN show today that he was told by TO that Jason Garrett is the one that called the receivers into his office..not the other way around as the press is reporting. They can't even get that straight.

The team has had a meeting and aired it all out and has been instructed by Wade not to speak to the media unless it involves the game.

I think that's maybe the smartest thing Wade has done next to taking over the defensive play calling.

There are 20 different versions to stories...they all spin out of control by the time we read them..he said this, no he said that, no he did that, no he didnt'...at this point it's old and boring.

Personally I don't care who catches passes. Just so they get caught. And they could all do a better job of that.
 
WWJD said:
Michael Irvin said on his Dallas ESPN show today that he was told by TO that Jason Garrett is the one that called the receivers into his office..not the other way around as the press is reporting. They can't even get that straight.

The team has had a meeting and aired it all out and has been instructed by Wade not to speak to the media unless it involves the game.

I think that's maybe the smartest thing Wade has done next to taking over the defensive play calling.

There are 20 different versions to stories...they all spin out of control by the time we read them..he said this, no he said that, no he did that, no he didnt'...at this point it's old and boring.

Personally I don't care who catches passes. Just so they get caught. And they could all do a better job of that.
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Heck, Terrence Newman is calling out the coaches about accountability and he gets burned last week to turn around the game. But I do think he has a point that the coaches are just hiding and deflecting. Then I just read how Witten was Ed Werder's source according to some. It is a madhouse. You know what is funny is that people are saying that TO may not be the bad guy..maybe...but the fact remains that this has happened on EVERY team he has played on and the lockerroom always takes sides. His somehow innocuous comments about just wanting to win seem to take on a life of their own. It is part media but it starts with TO.
 
Are we sure it's not the Cowboys screwing up things for TO, and not TO screwing up things for the Cowboys? I mean....it is the Cowboys; but, then, it is TO.

I bet Jessica gets involved. :photos:
 
HoustonFrog said:
Heck, Terrence Newman is calling out the coaches about accountability and he gets burned last week to turn around the game. But I do think he has a point that the coaches are just hiding and deflecting. Then I just read how Witten was Ed Werder's source according to some. It is a madhouse. You know what is funny is that people are saying that TO may not be the bad guy..maybe...but the fact remains that this has happened on EVERY team he has played on and the lockerroom always takes sides. His somehow innocuous comments about just wanting to win seem to take on a life of their own. It is part media but it starts with TO.
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I don't believe that about Witten but he and Tony are very good friends and hang together off the field.

Remember the Mexican vacation that Tony took last year when he was tarred and feathered for doing that before a playoff game...well Witten was there only he didn't get the same treatment about it.
 
HJam72 said:
Are we sure it's not the Cowboys screwing up things for TO, and not TO screwing up things for the Cowboys? I mean....it is the Cowboys; but, then, it is TO.

I bet Jessica gets involved. :photos:
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She'll just write a song about it. "TO's done ticked me off!"
 
WWJD said:
I don't believe that about Witten but he and Tony are very good friends and hang together off the field.

Remember the Mexican vacation that Tony took last year when he was tarred and feathered for doing that before a playoff game...well Witten was there only he didn't get the same treatment about it.
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Agree. They are close. Troy trusted Novachek too. For all his faults, did Irvin cry about getting the ball?
 
TO is a narcissist who is incapable of understanding that the team can win without him being the #1 guy. Regardless of whether Witten is doing any of this, it would have to be TO behind the mess, wouldn't it?
 
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Just as TO and the Girls seem to be imploding going into the Giants game, they will be getting a giant break in that Brandon Jacobs has been announced as a "no go."
 
HoustonFrog said:
Agree. They are close. Troy trusted Novachek too. For all his faults, did Irvin cry about getting the ball?
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I don't remember that but I do remember that undisputedly Michael was the team leader. He was the one on the sidelines giving the pep talks and it was the same in the locker room and he practiced hard...I do remember Harper complaining about not getting the ball thrown to him. Troy wasn't vocal on the sidelines at all.
 
WWJD said:
I don't remember that but I do remember that undisputedly Michael was the team leader. He was the one on the sidelines giving the pep talks and it was the same in the locker room and he practiced hard...I do remember Harper complaining about not getting the ball thrown to him. Troy wasn't vocal on the sidelines at all.
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They were all leaders, but it was in the order Irvin, Smith, Aikman. They were all incredibly hard workers. One off-season they had a competition to see who could get the lowest body fat %--I think the order was the same and they all came in at 8% or under.
 
I usually stick to Texans stuff but I ran across this on another message board I read on occasion and thought it was worth posting on here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4xS...tdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27779&page=4

I'm not pro or anti Cowboy, I do find it slightly annoying that they have their own ESPN reporter in Werder pretty much bunkered down there and I can only imagine how he and ESPN sometimes might have to turn some half-baked stories into a bit more than they are but that fan is definitely a turd. Don't get me wrong, I found that confrontation humorous but for the most part fans like that just piss me off.
 
WWJD said:
I don't remember that but I do remember that undisputedly Michael was the team leader. He was the one on the sidelines giving the pep talks and it was the same in the locker room and he practiced hard...I do remember Harper complaining about not getting the ball thrown to him. Troy wasn't vocal on the sidelines at all.
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I think they all have even said that Irvin was the leader. As I said and you and I have talked about, despite his faults, the guy worked as hard as any player and laid it on the line every game.
 
It's about to be a WHAT?!?! Girl fight!!

While the Dallas Cowboys were trying to downplay a possible rift between Terrell Owens and Jason Witten, the two nearly came to blows on Friday, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram first reported Saturday.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen, according to team sources, confirmed an incident occurred at the Cowboys training facility when Witten tried to engage Owens in a conversation about a pass route. Owens told Witten to stay away from him and called him a name. The two exchanged words before being separated.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3767580
 
Randy White stuffed Thomas Henderson in a locker once...too bad Randy isn't in the locker room now.
 
WWJD said:
Randy White stuffed Thomas Henderson in a locker once...too bad Randy isn't in the locker room now.
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Exactly..I miss guys that wouldn't put up with this crap. I'm sorry and I know people keep making excuses for him but as everyone can see you have a lockerroom divided and guys pissed. TO brought it to Philly and SF. This isn't a misunderstanding wherever he goes. He is an attention ho that needs attention constantly. Of course Stephen A Smith thinks TO is just an innocent guy..I think he has been an ardent supporter since day 1

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3767580
 
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Why don't they just let Witten and Owens settle it themselves.

Put them in a room and let Wade referee.

TO would probably shut his mouth if they let Witten beat the snot out of him.
 
bah007 said:
Why don't they just let Witten and Owens settle it themselves.

Put them in a room and let Wade referee.

TO would probably shut his mouth if they let Witten beat the snot out of him.
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Somebody needs to beat some sense into the guy, but I don't know if Witten's the man to do that - Hugh Douglass wasn't in Philly.
 
bah007 said:
Why don't they just let Witten and Owens settle it themselves.

Put them in a room and let Wade referee.

TO would probably shut his mouth if they let Witten beat the snot out of him.
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Maybe it's just me, but after listening to Wade Phillips's comments on the whole incident it seems like he doesn't really give a damn anymore. He sounds like a man who realizes he's probably gone after the season
 
Thank god we don't have baby TO on our team. We have AJ, KW, OD, DA, AD, JJ.... thank god we don't have TO.

You're a professional football player and you're telling the media that you think your quarterback and your tight end are having secret meetings without you where they draw up plays. Hahahahahahaha!

What a *****, are you serious? Dallas does not deserve what TO is about to do to them, no one does. However, if you hate the cowgirls please enjoy the enforced implosion, as this is like a supernova and happens once every 50 years or so. I can't get over what a whiny baby he is. I wish i could meet him in person just so i could slap him in the face, then tell him he had 30 million reasons for me not to do that. Poor Romo, poor Witten, poor Barber.. this is just pathetic.
 
superdave532 said:
Thank god we don't have baby TO on our team. We have AJ, KW, OD, DA, AD, JJ.... thank god we don't have TO.

You're a professional football player and you're telling the media that you think your quarterback and your tight end are having secret meetings without you where they draw up plays. Hahahahahahaha!

What a *****, are you serious? Dallas does not deserve what TO is about to do to them, no one does. However, if you hate the cowgirls please enjoy the enforced implosion, as this is like a supernova and happens once every 50 years or so. I can't get over what a whiny baby he is. I wish i could meet him in person just so i could slap him in the face, then tell him he had 30 million reasons for me not to do that. Poor Romo, poor Witten, poor Barber.. this is just pathetic.
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Evey 50 years??? Didn't he do it to the Eagles just a couple o years ago?
 
superdave532 said:
You're a professional football player and you're telling the media that you think your quarterback and your tight end are having secret meetings without you where they draw up plays.
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I'm not one to normally defend T.O., but I'm going to have to here. HE DID NOT GO TO THE MEDIA! He had a PRIVATE meeting with the offensive coordinator and it got LEAKED OUT to the media. For once T.O. was not trying to be dramatic and cry to the media like he has in the past. He wanted this little fiasco to be behind closed doors.

I don't think he is going to ruin the Cowboys. He is just trying his hardest to make the team BETTER. But if you think I am a T.O. fanboy, I'll just put it to rest right here by saying I would not want him playing on the Texans.
 
E-T is right, this vulcano blows up every other year or so :)

I have no pity for the Cowboys, they knew EXACTLY what they were getting by signing TO. JJs pride is the fault here, I hope he chokes on it.

This thread will prolly be moved btw.
 
Mari-OWNED! said:
I'm not one to normally defend T.O., but I'm going to have to here. HE DID NOT GO TO THE MEDIA! He had a PRIVATE meeting with the offensive coordinator and it got LEAKED OUT to the media. For once T.O. was not trying to be dramatic and cry to the media like he has in the past. He wanted this little fiasco to be behind closed doors.

I don't think he is going to ruin the Cowboys. He is just trying his hardest to make the team BETTER. But if you think I am a T.O. fanboy, I'll just put it to rest right here by saying I would not want him playing on the Texans.
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There is is nothing to defend. He brings this upon himself. Had this been anyone else we would know nothing about it. TO has some crazy need to be the opening segment on sportscenter for good or bad. I would bet money that he was the one who leaked the story...
 
TexanSam said:
Maybe it's just me, but after listening to Wade Phillips's comments on the whole incident it seems like he doesn't really give a damn anymore. He sounds like a man who realizes he's probably gone after the season
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I think you are right. I'd be doing the same thing. Take the money and get the heck out. Go be a D Coordinator somewhere.
 
TexanSam said:
Maybe it's just me, but after listening to Wade Phillips's comments on the whole incident it seems like he doesn't really give a damn anymore. He sounds like a man who realizes he's probably gone after the season
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I'm not really seeing his comments as bottom line being much different than Jerry's. They're both trying to say that there's no problem in Cow Patty Town. Close you eyes and turn around three times and ................. OMG, it's still there.
 
In the postgame interview, TO calls out Ed Werder for "sensationalizing"(sp) the argument between Witten and himself...
 
from pft.com.......


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Old news follow up.

Just saw this...was Brad Johnson the leak?Video from NFL Network seems to think Sapp heard info from him.(Video in link)


http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/04/jason-witten-took-the-blame-but-it-sound.html


We don't know for sure whether Brad Johnson was the infamous "snitch" at Valley Ranch last season.

ESPN's Ed Werder, one of the best reporters covering the NFL, isn't going to reveal his anonymous sources. But the NFL Network's Warren Sapp let the world know that his Super Bowl teammate had badmouthed T.O.

The NFL Network, apparently desperate to fill air time the week after the draft, is showing behind-the-scenes footage of its pregame prep work. That included an episode focused on the week leading up to the Ravens-Cowboys game, which came on the heels of the Tony Romo/T.O./Jason Witten pass-triangle drama.

Noted T.O. apologist Deion Sanders tried to dismiss the story, but Sapp wouldn't let that happen. Deion mentioned that he knows "20 dudes" on the Cowboys, so he was sure he had the story straight.

"So Brad Johnson ain't gonna give me the legits?" Sapp replied, as you can see from the fine YouTube work by blog buddy DCFanatic.

After Deion mumbled something dismissive about Johnson, Sapp added, "Brad (is) right there, dog. Right on ground level."
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HoustonFrog said:
Old news follow up.

Just saw this...was Brad Johnson the leak?Video from NFL Netwoek seems to think Sapp heard info from him.(Video in link)


http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/04/jason-witten-took-the-blame-but-it-sound.html
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Thanks for posting that Frog. Interesting and it makes a lot of sense. I always knew it had to be a person on the offense that worked with Romo and TO a lot to have been the un named source. I always thought it was Witten though, but I could see why Brad felt compelled to do that and he also did the right thing.

And boy I'll tell you every time I see Deion Sanders on tv he always validates what a total dumbass he is and has always been. I swear him and Michael Irvin had to have been separated at birth.
 
Texecutioner said:
And boy I'll tell you every time I see Deion Sanders on tv he always validates what a total dumbass he is and has always been. I swear him and Michael Irvin had to have been separated at birth.
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Deion had a "reality show" last season. I watched it. In horror.

This guy has no right to be portraying himself as a great role model for younger athletes. I mean... seriously. The guy is almost amoral himself.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Deion had a "reality show" last season. I watched it. In horror.

This guy has no right to be portraying himself as a great role model for younger athletes. I mean... seriously. The guy is almost amoral himself.
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You are so right. He is so freaking immature and the biggest attention hound of all time. The guy is such a freaking pest for the cameras and the spot light. Now days any time there is a great young athlete either on the Cowboys or the U or somewhere like that he tries to somehow get in the guy's life and act like he's some mentor or something just so he can steal the kid's spot light and take some sort of credit for the guy's success or something.

He is easily the last person that should be mentoring any young athletes about anything. You know who the last person was that Deion mentored? Pac Man Jones. That should be all I have to say on the subject.
 
Texecutioner said:
You are so right. He is so freaking immature and the biggest attention hound of all time. The guy is such a freaking pest for the cameras and the spot light. Now days any time there is a great young athlete either on the Cowboys or the U or somewhere like that he tries to somehow get in the guy's life and act like he's some mentor or something just so he can steal the kid's spot light and take some sort of credit for the guy's success or something.

He is easily the last person that should be mentoring any young athletes about anything. You know who the last person was that Deion mentored? Pac Man Jones. That should be all I have to say on the subject.
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Sounds like Hate.

Deion has mentored dozens of young athletes, if you ever watch his show, Prime U, you'll see what he teaches them, and how he prepares them for the NFL.

Prime U is a good show.

Deione is doing a good job.
 
thunderkyss said:
Sounds like Hate.

Deion has mentored dozens of young athletes, if you ever watch his show, Prime U, you'll see what he teaches them, and how he prepares them for the NFL.

Prime U is a good show.

Deione is doing a good job.
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Yea I'm with you. Deion is an ok guy. I don't like him much on TV but then again I don't have to. I can change the channel.
 
Texecutioner said:
Thanks for posting that Frog. Interesting and it makes a lot of sense. I always knew it had to be a person on the offense that worked with Romo and TO a lot to have been the un named source. I always thought it was Witten though, but I could see why Brad felt compelled to do that and he also did the right thing.

And boy I'll tell you every time I see Deion Sanders on tv he always validates what a total dumbass he is and has always been. I swear him and Michael Irvin had to have been separated at birth.
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Why would you think it was Jason? He said last year he didn't have a thing to do with all that mess. Just asking. Because he and Tony are good friends?
 
thunderkyss said:
Sounds like Hate.

Deion has mentored dozens of young athletes, if you ever watch his show, Prime U, you'll see what he teaches them, and how he prepares them for the NFL.

Prime U is a good show.

Deione is doing a good job.
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Sounds like hate? Lol!

Sorry, but there is nothing to hate on Deion for. He's nothing but an arrogant fool that constantly talks about himself on tv every chance he gets. I loved watching him as a player and don't think there will ever be another guy like him at the position, but I can't stand listening to anything he says as far as game analysis. He is no different than Irvin. All they do is praise the jack asses in the sport for being jack asses the same way him and Irvin both were as players.

I hated Keyshwn Johnson as a player for years, but as an analyst he's the polar opposite of Deion and Irvin. He doesn't sit there and try his best to talk about himself on and on and on and make excuses for guys like TO over and over for being team cancers. He'll actually call out jerk WR's and CB's and diva type players unlike Irvin and Deion who seem to congratulate and glorify some of the biggest pie holes in the NFL.
 
WWJD said:
Why would you think it was Jason? He said last year he didn't have a thing to do with all that mess. Just asking. Because he and Tony are good friends?
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I don't buy that they were friends anymore than I ever bought that TO and Romo were friends. If they were friends, TO wouldn't have been trying to go around the locker room making up stories about Romo and Witten making their own plays and all. Good team mates don't do stuff like that and good friends surely don't do stuff like that to each other.

I thought Witten was the guy because like I said it had to have been someone that worked with the offensive players a lot, and TO and Witten had a scuffle and had to be separated before the game right after that report came out.
 
I'm under the impression, that it never happened. That some media schmuck got tired of waiting for T.O. to do something, and decided to make some news.
 
Texecutioner said:
Oh yeah, the media really needs to make up something for TO.
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With guys like you around, it's not hard for them to get something started about Owens.

Three years, and all of a sudden he's a cancer after the team (t.e.a.m.) lays an egg in Philly.
 
WWJD said:
Yea I'm with you. Deion is an ok guy. I don't like him much on TV but then again I don't have to. I can change the channel.
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I won't forget his dousing of Tim McCarver in the locker room.

The guy comes across as an arrogant tool...IMO.
 
thunderkyss said:
Sounds like Hate.

Deion has mentored dozens of young athletes, if you ever watch his show, Prime U, you'll see what he teaches them, and how he prepares them for the NFL.

Prime U is a good show.

Deione is doing a good job.
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On his TV show about his family, it showed what he was teaching his kids. For the Prime U show (which I haven't been watching) he may be cleaning up his behavior around the cameras but based on what I saw in that first show, he's not a particularly high character guy.
 
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