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I REALLY think that the Texans will grab Quinn in the draft now. As sad as it is, AP will not be wearing a Texans uni.
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I am curious I didn't watch any N.D. games
why is everyone sold on Quinn? big games he seemed to disappear
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/419111
below average against Michigan/USC/LSU
Michigan state was a good game along with army,navy,and some others
I am going stat wise mind you and I may be totally wrong
Speaking of winning the big one (or not), Quinn, by my very unofficial count, was 2-8 in the Very Big Ones at Notre Dame: 2-1 versus Michigan, 0-4 against USC, 0-3 in bowl games. Not good. But let's not slay Quinn over it just yet. In those eight losses, Notre Dame allowed 47, 44, 41, 34, 34, 41, 38 and 45 points.
I am curious I didn't watch any N.D. games
why is everyone sold on Quinn? big games he seemed to disappear
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/419111
below average against Michigan/USC/LSU
Michigan state was a good game along with army,navy,and some others
I am going stat wise mind you and I may be totally wrong
Part of that might just be self explanatory...playing against some of the top teams in the nation is going to hamper your stat production.
Personally...I don't know anything intelligent about Quinn. What I mean by that, is that all I hear are peoples opinions on this and that - and those opinions have changed dramatically in the last year or so.
Well, this is just one more opinion. I watched the Sugar Bowl game (ND vs. LSU) this year, and was completely unimpressed with Quinn. Russell, on the other hand, was incredible. It would be hard for someone to watch that game and seriously think that Quinn is close to the NFL prospect that Russell is.
I know that's a really small sample size, but that one game made me believe that Quinn should not be our answer at QB.
I'm an LSU fan, and even I'll admit that it wasn't that simple. Quinn had no offensive line whatsoever, was on the run the entire game and had receivers overmatched in speed by the LSU secondary. Russell, meanwhile, had an outstanding line that dominated the line of scrimmage and let him sit back without any pressure at all.
I'm not the biggest Quinn fan either, but the circumstances surrounding Quinn and Russell that game were entirely different.
I REALLY think that the Texans will grab Quinn in the draft now. As sad as it is, AP will not be wearing a Texans uni.
i'd rather have laron landry
I am curious I didn't watch any N.D. games
why is everyone sold on Quinn? big games he seemed to disappear
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/419111
below average against Michigan/USC/LSU
Michigan state was a good game along with army,navy,and some others
I am going stat wise mind you and I may be totally wrong
The Texans are going to trade out of the 8 pick. They will pick up a few extras and draft a lineman. Either Offense or defense which ever is best available twhen they pick.
Quinn had no offensive line whatsoever, was on the run the entire game
Reminds you of Moon, like Warren Moon ? The Warren Moon who is now in the HOF @ Canton ? If it's that Warren Moon, is that really not a good thing ?Quinn reminds me of Moon...he tends to get rattled and never regrop.
I'm thinking Levi Brown.
I REALLY think that the Texans will grab Quinn in the draft now. As sad as it is, AP will not be wearing a Texans uni.
I coulnd not agree more! All of the fans who want to move up for AP will be very disappointed in the end, the Texans want and need more drafts picks not less. Levi Brown is not thought of higly enough to use the 8th pick at this point, if we stay at 8 it will probabaly be Landry. I will be shocked if Rick Smith does not find someone to take the 8th pick and trade for a few more picks. After the success of last years draft why wouldn't you want more picks?
No sir, completey disagree.
We just put a band-aid on the running wound which frees us up to build our lines.
Still some uncertanties on DDub, Green will be good for at least 2 years. From what I hear next years draft is running back heavy and this year is Line and WR heavy.
Fill our needs this year with line and WR and don't reach on a RB.
Green will get us through this year. Next year we draft a RB to play behind Green.
I think this is a good move.
A 4 yr. contract worth $6.5 mil. in garaunteed money. How does that work with the cap if he's cut by the team? Spread it over the 4 yrs or have to pay it when/if he's cut? I'm not so sure I like this move. IMO, it represents the infuence of Sherman and how he's going to get HIS guys in here. Are we going to be the South Denver Packers now?I've stated on here many times that I'm not crazy about Sherman being here. He has his own style, that differs greatly from Kubiaks, and is a former HC who knows how HE wants to run the O. I think the Texans would be better served if there was a D-guru in Shermans position.I would bet the house that there's a lot of underlying tension about whose philosophy the Texans will be running.
I wouldnt put it past us to make a move for Peterson still.
The FO said at the beggining of this offseason that they arent going to NOT fill holes, and hope that a player becomes available/healthy for us.
So they got Green..he fills a need. But hes in his 10 season.. and hes a running back. This is a temporary thing and everyone knows it. And if the FO felt that we needed a quality RB despite the fact that we had Taylor, Lundy, Gado, and (possibly) Dayne.. then I imagine they also feel that in a season or two we are gonna need someone to replace Green as the premier guy. Peterson could be him.
Look at New Orleans, Jacksonville, Dallas, New England.... last season all of them drafted running backs despite the fact that they had a starting RB that could be considered "good". And they benefited from it.
I am not sure why most of ya'll on this board are still suprised when these coaches grab farmiliar players. This is a very common occurence in the NFL. The Tuna did it on every team he coached. Green is a quality player. He will likely give us 2 years and if he is cut his cap hit will likely be 3 mil or so. That is not a bad deal especially considering his total cap number in yr 3 will probably be around 7 mil or so. ( I am taking into consideration escelating contract and totally guessing on the #. It will likely be higher than that but little chance that it is lower.)
Correct me if I am wrong but from what I remember of Green is that he is a 1 cut and go guy so he should fit ok. But I do hope the Texans will just zone block all the time and quit messing around with the offense. And maybe you are rerading into it just a little too muchI'm not against signing Green. I think he will help us for a yr or 2. I wonder about the different styles Kubes and Sherman like to play. A player who fits 1 scheme doesn't necessarily fit the other. Maybe I'm reading too much into things and being a conspiracy theorist. Too many cooks ruin the soup, and I'm SURE there are some pretty tense moments between our young HC and the old, wise former HC. It will interesting to see how TC goes this year.
i'd rather have laron landry
... I'm SURE there are some pretty tense moments between our young HC and the old, wise former HC.
I REALLY think that the Texans will grab Quinn in the draft now. As sad as it is, AP will not be wearing a Texans uni.
Peterson was never going to fall to teh 8th pick, and Smith said that there would be no way the Texans would use draft picks in a trade...so therefore the chances of Peterson being a Texan were slim to none.
I agree somewhat b/c This will make the 2nd year that this organization passes on some pretty good RB prospects high in the draft which leads me to believe that they're not looking for RB's in the 1st - 2nd round period. They're trying to find those later round gems like Portis, TD & Johnson. If he adheres & believes in the Denver system at all, he's not looking for an RB high. That & they also probably feel that AD won't be there either.
More fuel for teh Quinn fire:
Texans | Kubiak attends Notre Dame's Pro Day
Sun, 4 Mar 2007 21:58:14 -0800
John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports Houston Texans head coach Gary Kubiak attended Notre Dame's Pro Day March 4.
I hope they are just trying to feign interest in Quinn to up the value of the number 8 pick. We need a top OL prospect in the first, not a QB.
I hope they are just trying to feign interest in Quinn to up the value of the number 8 pick. We need a top OL prospect in the first, not a QB.
What you are saying could be true, but the Browns have been rumored to be showing interest in Carr as well as trading back in the draft.
http://fflivewire.com/Article.asp?ID=352007ywq417wr