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No, he was calm. His team matched his persona. Our team looks like Kubiak on the sideline - dazed and confused. It would be a lot cooler if he was like Landry.ps tom landry wasnt very intense was he?
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No, he was calm. His team matched his persona. Our team looks like Kubiak on the sideline - dazed and confused. It would be a lot cooler if he was like Landry.ps tom landry wasnt very intense was he?
As far as the first point, yes we played a tough team, regardless of the posts last week stating the Jets would be easy. However, the Texans need to start regularly bearing good teams if they want to be playoff contenders. I don't like the "it was too hard" reasoning.Maddict5 said:im also pissed that we took a beatdown at home yesterday. however the fact remains that we caught a team thats going to be very good on a day when they were in top form. not to mention they had a nice amount of luck with the near int's & recovering their own fumbles (aswell as brice nodding off for a play). it happens every week all over the nfl.
i also know we're going to react & come back from this like we always have done since kubiak arrived.
For me it's just inexcusable. We may end up going 9-7 and miss the playoffs by a hair but we'll have a couple of losses like this to look back on and think, man if we would have showed up for that game we may have had a shot.It's depressing to see them start off a season with a game like this.
You beat me to this.Goldensilence said:I hear a lot of calls for Cowher, just not sure this would be his ideal destination. With his family in N.C. he really might just want to wait it out until John Fox's tenure is gone. Still a remote possibility I guess.
No way JJ comes out of retirement.
I name I haven't heard but I think should be on any possible list of replacements: Marty Schottenheimer.
Marty Ball isn't exciting but he wins and he knows how to build a team. Just putting it out there.
I like Marty but he may be a little long in the tooth. He would be an improvement and he almost assuredly has a better network of coaches to pull from than Kubiak has proven to have. Marty would be fine with me in the end though.You beat me to this.
Marty Schottenheimer SHOULD be the next coach of this team. True, he can't seem to find a way to get a team over the hump to win a championship, but he knows the NFL. He knows how to build a team, perhaps as good as anyone in the league.
Marty would, at the very least, put a respectable team on the field within a short period of time.
His style might be boring, but there's no doubt that he could build a very good team in this town.
IMO, don't even think about Cower. He'll want to install a 3-4 defense, which would take a long time, and doesn't suit the skillset of Mario at all.
I just don't think you can bring in a coach that would basically scrap everything you have on D, including the best player. It would take several seasons to transition this team to a decent 3-4.
I'm normally very optimistic, but it's the same thing every year. Feels great tosee Chris Brown have 3 carries for 15 yards, but never touch the field again. Slatton needed a road map to to the hole, but don't try anything else. WR not making plays, don't try another guy. Instead of interviewing serious canidates for DC, you hire your buddy and he gives up 500 yards in his 1st game. Same ****, different year. Doing one thing over and over and expecting different results is called insanity.Seriously, how bout you treat other peoples opinions with respect. We are all watching the same team here. You appear to be in denial to me.
AJ is probably the most cerebral guy on the whole team.The most damning snippet about the whole game was this line from Solomon's blog, if true...
"I asked Andre Johnson if he could see it coming, and he said he didn't want to answer that question."
If our best, franchise player thinks this staff is doing a poor job of preparing us to win then Kubiak is losing this team. Reminiscent of Capers' last year. :sigh:
At what point do we start to compete agianst good team consistently. I don't care if we were scheduled a good team in week 1 at hone, I expect us to compete.we were doing the same thing against the jags, GB, titans, bears etc last yr but its ok- selective memory isnt half as
bad as alot of the stuff spewing around here at the moment. re-starting the franchise, firing kubiak, schaub, mcnair, everybody & other kinds of ridiculous stuff. do people realise how stupid it sounds to suggest preposterous moves like this?
Did you see the Panthers/Eagles game? It wasn't John Fox, it was Jake Delhomme. Delhomme threw 4 or 5 picks. You can't win games if you have 5 turnovers.but it does happen... all the time. today its gary kubiak & john fox.
No thanks to Pete, I think he'd instill the same soft attitude. Of course he looks great at USC because he gets the best talent in the PAC 10. He'd be stupid to leave such a great gig.I slept on it and I still can't believe that game yesterday. I reflected a bit on our past and I think the nail in the coffin was Bart Scott telling it like it is and saying we are a finesse team. If I'm Bob McNair the only way Kubiak keeps his job is if he pulls 10-6 out of his hat. Nothing less. He gets to finish out the season regardless but if he doesn't find 10 wins I am going straight to Pete Carrol's door once the season is over and giving him whatever he wants. Money, complete control, you name it.
He had a rough start in the NFL (although 33-31 isn't terrible) but so did Belicheck. Anything Carrol touches turns to gold. Yes he can recruit the top guys but his top guys pan out and reach their potential at a comically high percentage. Hey, maybe after an offseason or two our teams could even be as tough as his recent teams.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jan/10/sports/sp-carroll10
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/02/sports/sp-farmer2
Carroll's too much of a "rah rah" guy for the NFL. His players never bought in to his coaching style when he was at the Patriots and Jets.I slept on it and I still can't believe that game yesterday. I reflected a bit on our past and I think the nail in the coffin was Bart Scott telling it like it is and saying we are a finesse team. If I'm Bob McNair the only way Kubiak keeps his job is if he pulls 10-6 out of his hat. Nothing less. He gets to finish out the season regardless but if he doesn't find 10 wins I am going straight to Pete Carrol's door once the season is over and giving him whatever he wants. Money, complete control, you name it.
He had a rough start in the NFL (although 33-31 isn't terrible) but so did Belicheck. Anything Carrol touches turns to gold. Yes he can recruit the top guys but his top guys pan out and reach their potential at a comically high percentage. Hey, maybe after an offseason or two our teams could even be as tough as his recent teams.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jan/10/sports/sp-carroll10
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/02/sports/sp-farmer2
Kubiak just ran out of time. I've got a feeling that Sherman will hold on to the HC position.Perhaps Kubiak can replace Sherman.
That would be awfulbring in Mack Brown, and trade for VY.
I'm a little puzzled by the calls to get James Casey on the field as a spark for the offense. Hell guys keep it simple how about getting it to all pro WR Andre Johnson?! How about trying to get the ball to pro bowl TE OD?!Man, I am depressed..... This might be the most depressed I have ever been as a Texans fan. I am really getting the feeling that Kubiak has got to go. Now before you jump on me and say I have been a Kubiak supporter, I will say you are correct. I am not saying we should fire Kubiak today. But if something doesn't change, I wouldn't be opposed to a mid-season change.
4 things stand out to me about Kubiak
1. He is arrogant enough to think that his offensive play calling is so stellar that the QB doesn't need to call audibles. I have asked this before, and I hope someone more knowledgeable than me will answer this, but are there any other coaches that do this? What good QB in this league is not allowed to audible out of the play that is called?? Isn't Schaub supposed to be one of those good, intelligent QBs??
2. He is arrogant enough to think that we can run first pass second against a Rex Ryan defense.
3. He is arrogant/ignorant enough to believe that no adjustments need to be made because his offensive genius is superior to the defensive genius of a Rex Ryan. The game plan obviously wasn't working, so why did we come out in the 3rd and run the exact same game plan?!?!?
4. He is arrogant/ignorant enough to not utilize all of his weapons. Where the flying **** was James Casey?!? The guy looked incredible in the preseason and made some crazy catches so why were we not running more two TE sets with Casey and Daniels?!? Can you imagine having Casey, Daniels, AJ, Slaton, and Andre Davis on the field at the same time?!?!
I am sure there are more things that could be added to this list, but this is what is really depressing me. This sucks!!
Why keep 4 TE's if you are going to deactivate half of them? What's up with that?I'm a little puzzled by the calls to get James Casey on the field as a spark for the offense. Hell guys keep it simple how about getting it to all pro WR Andre Johnson?! How about trying to get the ball to pro bowl TE OD?!
Other then that comment you're spot on.
At this point I'm not even going to venture into the mind of Gary Kubiak regarding roster management.Why keep 4 TE's if you are going to deactivate half of them? What's up with that?
Always the same thing. At the end of a year, he ALWAYS says " I should have used the kid more". When somethingisn't working, you have to try and shake it up a bit. Try a different match up. Just so annoying to say this in the 4th year.Man, I am depressed..... This might be the most depressed I have ever been as a Texans fan. I am really getting the feeling that Kubiak has got to go. Now before you jump on me and say I have been a Kubiak supporter, I will say you are correct. I am not saying we should fire Kubiak today. But if something doesn't change, I wouldn't be opposed to a mid-season change.
4 things stand out to me about Kubiak
1. He is arrogant enough to think that his offensive play calling is so stellar that the QB doesn't need to call audibles. I have asked this before, and I hope someone more knowledgeable than me will answer this, but are there any other coaches that do this? What good QB in this league is not allowed to audible out of the play that is called?? Isn't Schaub supposed to be one of those good, intelligent QBs??
2. He is arrogant enough to think that we can run first pass second against a Rex Ryan defense.
3. He is arrogant/ignorant enough to believe that no adjustments need to be made because his offensive genius is superior to the defensive genius of a Rex Ryan. The game plan obviously wasn't working, so why did we come out in the 3rd and run the exact same game plan?!?!?
4. He is arrogant/ignorant enough to not utilize all of his weapons. Where the flying **** was James Casey?!? The guy looked incredible in the preseason and made some crazy catches so why were we not running more two TE sets with Casey and Daniels?!? Can you imagine having Casey, Daniels, AJ, Slaton, and Andre Davis on the field at the same time?!?!
I am sure there are more things that could be added to this list, but this is what is really depressing me. This sucks!!
Exactly. They ran an offense that resembled something you would throw out in pre-season. No imaganation, no originality, no adjustments as the game progressed, nothing to spread out their D or really blunt what the Jets were doing. No misdirection, no hot routes, hardly any motion, no nothing it seemed. Just the same old vanilla bland stale crap that looked like something straight out of week one of the preseason. Notice the Jets threw out the wildcat. Hello? Casey could do that. He could have helped in other ways as well. Their coordinators totally outclassed and outcoached ours.Why keep 4 TE's if you are going to deactivate half of them? What's up with that?
With Kevin Walter out, we needed as many weapons on the field as possible to keep the pressure off of Andre. AD is not a #2 WR; he never has been and never will be. He is a good situational deep threat. So with that being the case, we needed to alter our game plan a bit and get some good possession guys on the field to open the field up for Andre. Kubiak was an ***** for thinking he could run up the middle with Slaton, so that took Slaton out of the game. Then all the Jets had to do was key in on Andre and OD. Guess what: it worked.I'm a little puzzled by the calls to get James Casey on the field as a spark for the offense. Hell guys keep it simple how about getting it to all pro WR Andre Johnson?! How about trying to get the ball to pro bowl TE OD?!
Other then that comment you're spot on.
Exactly.Why keep 4 TE's if you are going to deactivate half of them? What's up with that?
Yep. Kubiak: "Well this one's on me. I should have gotten the kid out on the field and given him a chance. blah blah blah."Always the same thing. At the end of a year, he ALWAYS says " I should have used the kid more". When somethingisn't working, you have to try and shake it up a bit. Try a different match up. Just so annoying to say this in the 4th year.
Three doors down. Go to Helen Wait.Where can I find the FIRE RICK SMITH thread ?
I don't think it's just a matter of screaming Gary. It's a mixture of getting players motivated, talent evualation, finding the right coordinators, experience, schemes, etc. It's all of these and more. If it was just a matter of screaming, Tony Dungy would have been fired long ago. There has been plenty of non-screaming successes.Sooner or later Gary is going to be given his Pink sllip and maybe Smith as well. I hope Mr. Mcnair hires a GM with a proven track record and a all O minded HC or a all D minded HC just choose one or the other let the other fall into place but just as in a GM a HC with a proven track record would be nice. A coach that is willing to get in faces and scream his guts out at his team. Gary is afraid to do just that and dreams that one day all of a sudden everything is just going to click and the light will come on. News flash that's not how things in the NFL wake up Gary your days are numbered buddy. Everyone knows it.
Holy smokes.. Seriously .. I wish Bud would do it and we snatch him upMaybe we can hire Jeff Fisher since the Titans messageboard has a thread about firing him.
http://www.gotitans.com/goForum/showthread.php?t=51405
A passive HC isn't good either. It's on both Gary and players. The players are old enough to play motivated and Gary for not preparing his team. A coach that lets his team just get by. I just feel Gary does this way too often. It does not have to be screaming maybe a pizza party what he's doing now is not working. The players must have attitude and get hungry. Play like someone stole their chesseburgers Mario. I'm not calling him out I'm talking to everyone. They play without any spunk at all just like the Rockets, and Astros. Most of this is on the players but some of it is on Gary.I don't think it's just a matter of screaming Gary. It's a mixture of getting players motivated, talent evualation, finding the right coordinators, experience, schemes, etc. It's all of these and more. If it was just a matter of screaming, Tony Dungy would have been fired long ago. There has been plenty of non-screaming successes.
Good post Gary. Couldn't rep ya but that's the way to bring your POV to the board.A passive HC isn't good either. It's on both Gary and players. The players are old enough to play motivated and Gary for not preparing his team. A coach that lets his team just get by. I just feel Gary does this way too often. It does not have to be screaming maybe a pizza party what he's doing now is not working. The players must have attitude and get hungry. Play like someone stole their chesseburgers Mario. I'm not calling him out I'm talking to everyone. They play without any spunk at all just like the Rockets, and Astros. Most of this is on the players but some of it is on Gary.
And I would be tempted to sell my PSLs if that happens!! NO, NO, NO!!!!!!I think if we asked him, Tony Dungy would heavily consider it.
Wow. That was harsh. But unless Kubiac turns this team around, like the articles says, we are looking at between 6 and 8 wins this year.
Yup. I'm just about there.These Texans are a key injury away from having an awful season this year. That said, they are perfectly capable of playing awful football if they stay perfectly healthy. They are not a particularly talented NFL team. Whats worse is, if they dont find the right guys to lead the team after Kubiak and his cronies are inevitably asked to clean out their desks, the Texans will officially be considered a permanent joke with a recurring punchline. One morning the hardest of the hard core will wake up and realize, Oh my lord, were the Bengals.
Oh, I'd love to see that. Maybe we could start a drive.So there is no need to brown bag it to the games. Just throw on a Lions or Bengals jersey. That should get the point across.
How about if they offer it to certain fans like awtysst!How about the cheerleaders offering up dates to the players a night of fun if they play with pride and inspired? Just a thought. LOL
great article
Some of us have already arrived at that destination. *sigh*One morning the hardest of the hard core will wake up and realize, “Oh my lord, we’re the Bengals.”