LOL, must be Alzheimer.04 man. I was writing some groundbreaking **** and pissing folks off even back then. Check your history. I backed your video reviews often.
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LOL, must be Alzheimer.04 man. I was writing some groundbreaking **** and pissing folks off even back then. Check your history. I backed your video reviews often.
Other than the year he led the league in passing?They simply play different styles.
Were Schaub ever seriously mentioned in the top ten category?
He didn't play in the playoffs that year .... that was TJ Yates.
LOL, must be Alzheimer.
The fact that he was ranked the 2nd best QB? And given an early round pick rating. As stated in the Scouting Report "a QB needy team may take him at any point in the first round".
Sum of that: He feels he is 2nd best and a 3rd grade. But as always a team will snag a player they like even too soon. Look at any draft and you hear about player "X" and "Y" taken too early.
You mean like those few who are underrating Watson now?
And Watson may have had a better team when he started, but that team has quickly gotten worse since. And he definitely had worse coaching and a worse scheme.
And here's some more fun with numbers.
Watson Comp. % TD INT Passer Rating Y/A Rush Yards Points p/Gm 1st 4 Gms w/OB 65.6% 6 3 98.2 8.5 58 20 Lst 4 Gms w/o OB 70.6% 11 2 118.2 8.9 139 28.2
Have you thought about changing your name?
Taken from Walter Football, 2017 scouting report on Watson. All you have to do is Google Walter Football Watson Scouting Report
In this draft analyst's opinion, I would grade Watson as a third-round pick for the 2017 NFL Draft. Watson was off with his accuracy for much of 2016, displaying poor ball placement, especially when going downfield. He missed a lot of potential touchdowns as a result. Watson has a lot of room for improvement with his field vision, ball placement, and accuracy. There were instances where he flashed accuracy, but he had too many missed and poorly placed throws. Watson was better down the stretch in 2016, but he still has room for improvement in his accuracy for the NFL.
Watson has some strengths for the NFL that cause many to compare him to Dak Prescott. Like Prescott, Watson has great intangibles as a hard worker with good character off the field and leadership in the locker room. They both bring toughness and mobility to the table. When plays break down, they can use his athleticism to pick up yards on the ground and also can avoid sacks.
Where the comparison breaks down is in terms of accuracy and ball security. Prescott was much more accurate in college and threw far less interceptions. Prescott threw only five interceptions as a senior with 11 as a junior. Thus, Watson threw more interceptions (17) in 2016 than Prescott did in his final two years combined.
There are a lot of growth issues that Watson will need development for in the NFL - aside from his passing skills. Watson is also going to need to learn how to work under center, call plays in a huddle, and develop his footwork to make drops from being under center. His college offense has a lot of quick throws, screens, and designed runs that inflated his numbers but don't translate to the NFL. Some NFL sources believe that Watson is going to need his pro offense to be catered to him and that he could have issues fitting a NFL system.
In speaking with sources from teams around the NFL, their grades on Watson didn't match the media hype that he has received. I surveyed many teams to see where their initial draft grades were for Watson. Two playoff teams told me they had third-round grades on Watson. One said it was on the low end as a third- to fourth-rounder. Another playoff team told Walt that they had a third-round grade on Watson. Two other teams said they had second-round grades on Watson. All that being said, teams believe that Watson could be a late first-round quarterback, similar to Teddy Bridgewater, because of the dire need at the position across the NFL. A team could move back into the first round for Watson like Bridgewater. A general manager of an AFC team said that in the draft meetings in April, Watson will benefit from the 'Dak Prescott effect' and rise. Thus, it wouldn't surprise anyone if Watson is taken in the middle of the first round during the 2017 NFL Draft.
Just because most teams have Watson graded on the second day or mid-rounds doesn't mean that he won't go in the first round. Last year, many teams had second-round grades on Jared Goff, yet the Rams traded up to the first-overall pick for him. There were teams that had mid-round grades on E.J. Manuel and fourth-round grades on Christian Ponder, yet both of them went as top-16 picks in their NFL drafts. Many teams had second-round grades on Teddy Bridgewater, yet he went late in Round 1. Thus, you can't rule out that a quarterback-needy team won't be desperate enough to take Watson at any point in the first round
Why because you don't like an opinion? Or when people post a fact.
Lol at the scouting report.
I don’t get itWhy because you don't like an opinion? Or when people post a fact.
I wasn't making a comparison at all .... Just saying that it can be argued that Schaub was the better QB. It's not crazy to make that statement ....
And?? They're scoring a full TD and 2 pointer more per game, and that's still with zero help from the run game.You are aware that it is the same system right? They only tossed out a little and added a little
No not at all. I want conversation to explore and go as far as it can. Your name sounds like some nasa bot from the early 70's.
If your gonna stay here, change it to something more personable. Jmo
You can't
I laughed too. He wants to use the WalteFootball scouting report for Watson and hold Watson to their evaluation, but wants to ignore their evaluation of Trubisky and Mahomes. In other words, they were wrong about Trubisky and Mahomes, but they were spot on about Watson.Lol at the scouting report.
Yeah, and they had Trubisky at no. 1 and Mahomes at no. 3 , behind Watson.The fact that he was ranked the 2nd best QB? And given an early round pick rating. As stated in the Scouting Report "a QB needy team may take him at any point in the first round".
Sum of that: He feels he is 2nd best and a 3rd grade. But as always a team will snag a player they like even too soon. Look at any draft and you hear about player "X" and "Y" taken too early.
And one in early 2013.
(At the conclusion of the 2012 season).
2012 Texans Year in Review
Houston Texans 2012: My view of the season and beyond Talks about common discussion points and some uncommon ones. Focuses a lot on some off-season decisions and how they became challenges--things you could see in camp. Looks at some turning points in the season. Doesn't pretend to have any...www.texanstalk.com
You can argue it all you want. Just make sure include everything each QB had to work with.
In 2012, Schaub had a 1,400 yard RB who scored 15 TDs. He had a 1,598 yard WR. And he had an OL with 3 Pro Bowlers that year, including an All Pro. Not to mention a top 10 defense and a coach that knew how to put players in positions to succeed.
Other than the WR, which got taken away from him, Watson doesn't have any of that, and he's still putting up numbers that put him the 5-10 range.
So argue away.
I laughed too. He wants to use the WalteFootball scouting report for Watson and hold Watson to their evaluation, but wants to ignore their evaluation of Trubisky and Mahomes. In other words, they were wrong about Trubisky and Mahomes, but they were spot on about Watson.
But...
Check the win loss column?
Is no one else bothered by this enigma guy?
That's because its beneficial to his specific agenda,that backs up his claim on Watson not improving. Maverick complained about me not respecting their opinions. But imo this is not an opinion. This is a person who is trying tell people that he is 1000% accurate because of this Watler report supposedly being spot on. In his deliberations, he's not factoring anything that could stunt any players growth.
Hands goes up
No it's because it's true.
I am not posting in the JJ Watt thread or I could use a report for him or an OL player...and so on
You can argue it all you want. Just make sure include everything each QB had to work with.
In 2012, Schaub had a 1,400 yard RB who scored 15 TDs. He had a 1,598 yard WR. And he had an OL with 3 Pro Bowlers that year, including an All Pro. Not to mention a top 10 defense and a coach that knew how to put players in positions to succeed.
Other than the WR, which got taken away from him, Watson doesn't have any of that, and he's still putting up numbers that put him the 5-10 range.
So argue away.
I really don't get why some people get so defensive over anything that isn't high praise for Watson .... Saying it could be argued that Schaub was a better QB is no knock on Watson at all.
Been here since 2003 but on a different format forum than this one. I remember Steel, Corrosion and many other regular members from the other siteWell, I guess you'll either burn out or prosper like a thousand posters before you.
That's because its beneficial to his specific agenda,that backs up his claim on Watson not improving. Maverick complained about me not respecting their opinions. But imo this is not an opinion. This is a person who is trying tell people that he is 1000% accurate because of this Watler report supposedly being spot on. In his deliberations, he's not factoring anything that could stunt any players growth.
Been here since 2003 but on a different format forum than this one. I remember Steel, Corrosion and many other regular members from the other site
Why do people get all defensive when people do praise Watson? This thread suppose to be about the good and yet we have the select few arguing otherwise or either bringing up other quarterbacks.
Why do people get all defensive when people do praise Watson? This thread suppose to be about the good and yet we have the select few arguing otherwise or either bringing up other quarterbacks.
Untrue. You have people who are not in agreement with certain things said. But the DW flavor koolaid keeps them from seeing the faults. I wanted Watson, I was glad we got him. He has torn up many games and played amazing. Yet other things are still issues and to be elite as a player and team you have to fix them. I don't give passes just because a guy is hot and cold. As fans nobody should be doing that.
Why do people get all defensive when people do praise Watson? This thread suppose to be about the good and yet we have the select few arguing otherwise or either bringing up other quarterbacks.
What's not true about that scouting report?
Speaking about agendas.
So it’s confirmed. It’s ok to only trash and complain about Watson. But not ok to give the young man praise.
It isn't about him not getting high praise. It's about him getting raked over the coals to the point that people think Matt freaking Schaub is a better QB. Just because somebody argues it, doesn't make it a valid point.I really don't get why some people get so defensive over anything that isn't high praise for Watson .... Saying it could be argued that Schaub was a better QB is no knock on Watson at all.
You are the only one who's made that statement .....
Watson has a 26-19 record. 27-21 if you include playoffs. If we’re going to throw numbers out there, lets at least get them right.
We’re four years in joker and y’all are still bringing up the freaking scouting report. Wow you fans are unbelievable and way off course here.
Darn good job deflecting and derailing yet another thread with your negatives.
You guys enjoy the echo chamber .... I'm checking out of this conversation.