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If this litigation drags on into the regular season, I wouldn't play him as his mind is gonna be all messed up.My guess is Taylor. DW isn’t playing for anyone until this issue is defined. The reputation of the NFL is at stake with these types of allegations And I can’t see them making any kind of decision until this has fully played out. if he’s guilty he’s probably screwed the pooch in the NFL. If he’s innocent I’m thinking a real mentor like DC is just what he will need to get his head straight again and hopefully this is his epiphany.
Who said he’s gonna play here. Thats the big 156 million dollar question. You can’t trade him. Who would trade a butt load of picks for a guy that could be possibly out of the NFL for an indefinite period? His eligibility to play has to be in the hands of the NFL who will do anything to make the game family friendly and politically correct. DW needs to get on his knees in Galveston and crawl to NRG to ask for forgiveness. This guy is headed towards being a picture in a dictionary.If this litigation drags on into the regular season, I wouldn't play him as his mind is gonna be all messed up.
I am hoping this will all be done before then.
He definitely needs to climb down off his high horse now.Who said he’s gonna play here. Thats the big 156 million dollar question. You can’t trade him. Who would trade a butt load of picks for a guy that could be possibly out of the NFL for an indefinite period? His eligibility to play has to be in the hands of the NFL who will do anything to make the game family friendly and politically correct. DW needs to get on his knees in Galveston and crawl to NRG to ask for forgiveness. This guy is headed towards being a picture in a dictionary.
WTF are these guys doing with the trades for guys about to be cut? So far, not impressed with Mr. Caserio, of course I still believe the guy who's had a hand in the very bad deals recently, still has quite a bit of sway.Looks like we have our starter & backup with the trade for Ryan Finley.
Looks like we have our starter & backup with the trade for Ryan Finley.
I agree, trading for guys about to be cut looks bad on Caserio. But... I’m not seeing the Easterby connection.WTF are these guys doing with the trades for guys about to be cut? So far, not impressed with Mr. Caserio, of course I still believe the guy who's had a hand in the very bad deals recently, still has quite a bit of sway.
Not at all. You don’t trade a draft pick regardless how small for a guy about to be cut in a rebuild.Looks like a full on rebuild so far. Which is fine by me.
If you wait until he's cut, he becomes a free agent and you are bidding against other teams. He has two years left on his contract. That is what you are getting with a trade.WTF are these guys doing with the trades for guys about to be cut? So far, not impressed with Mr. Caserio, of course I still believe the guy who's had a hand in the very bad deals recently, still has quite a bit of sway.
Don't these guys have to go through waivers? If so, the Texans are 3rd.If you wait until he's cut, he becomes a free agent and you are bidding against other teams. He has two years left on his contract. That is what you are getting with a trade.
I don't know. Good question. If he must go through waivers, does that mean his old contract is still valid, or can the player negotiate a new contract? What if he doesn't like the terms being offered? I don't know how this works.Don't these guys have to go through waivers? If so, the Texans are 3rd.
I don't know. Good question. If he must go through waivers, does that mean his old contract is still valid, or can the player negotiate a new contract? What if he doesn't like the terms being offered? I don't know how this works.
Not if he’s claimed before he clears.If he has to go through waivers, he's a FA and has no contract
I googled on my computer when I got home and it seems to me only veterans with 4 years are FA's. Otherwise, for those players with less seasons, I read that: "Any player on waivers is subject to having their contract claimed by any other NFL team"If he has to go through waivers, he's a FA and has no contract
No, until they become vested they are RFA'sI googled on my computer when I got home and it seems to me only veterans with 4 years are FA's. Otherwise, for those players with less seasons, I read that: "Any player on waivers is subject to having their contract claimed by any other NFL team"
Do you think I interpreted this incorrectly?
A long overdue rebuild.Looks like a full on rebuild so far. Which is fine by me.
They would have to trade from him, correct?Looks like its Tyrod Taylor's job to lose at this point.
Once Watson is traded, we will need another QB.
Unless he has already been signed, one guy that could be on Caserio's radar is Joshua Dobbs.
Said to be very intelligent and has good size, arm strength and mobility.
Wonder what it would cost to lure him away from Pittsburg?
Looks like its Tyrod Taylor's job to lose at this point.
Once Watson is traded, we will need another QB.
Unless he has already been signed, one guy that could be on Caserio's radar is Joshua Dobbs.
Said to be very intelligent and has good size, arm strength and mobility.
Wonder what it would cost to lure him away from Pittsburg?
If Watson is traded, that leaves us with 2 correct?They would have to trade from him, correct?
They just traded for Finely. I think QB is basically set regardless of Watsons situation.
Nick isn’t going for the kind of guy O’Brien had on the bench for two years.I think McCarron is still a FA. If he isn’t signed, I think the Texans would sign him back.
That is the other possibility I was considering.I think McCarron is still a FA. If he isn’t signed, I think the Texans would sign him back.
He traded for Ryan Finley. I doubt anyone has any idea who Nick is thinking of for our 3rd/4th QB.
I don't think there's any real hurry. If we don't draft one, we could just sign a training camp arm, or two, and then see who is available after final cuts.He traded for Ryan Finley. I doubt anyone has any idea who Nick is thinking of for our 3rd/4th QB.
We should be building a competitive team & stockpiling draft picks so when there is a QB we believe in we can maneuver to get himAt this point we should just be going full tank for a couple years, and trading Watson if he ever becomes a positive asset again. We really shouldn’t be drafting a QB for a couple seasons until we’ve built up the rest of our team, or unless we feel like a top tier QB has fallen in our laps. Invest in the trenches and go from there. Embrace the suck.
I am confident new oline coach Campen will be a dramatically better coach than Devlin.When is a "Pocket QB" not a pocket QB? When they have the Texans OL.
When is a "Dual Threat QB" most effective? When they have an OL that permits them to be a "Pocket QB" first and a running/throwing QB second.
What should the term be for a Texans QB not yet coined in the annals of NFL QB discussions? "Survivalist QB" Definition: A QB that has a set passing play and on 70% or more of their dropbacks must survive the defensive onslaught from most any direction or all directions on the majority of dropbacks, thus scrapping called play and finding a way to survive to play another down.
Texans have proven hands down that they have no idea how to develop a QB or build an OL (sorry maybe 3 years of decent to top 5 OL). I hope Caserio decides to make the OL the "FIRST" priority and QB later. Texans have Taylor for the next 2 seasons and I'd truly be disappointed if they wasted their #67 pick on a QB......this is not a position of need at the moment.
Dude, every team has plays that call for the QB to run the football. Cmon, man.A lot here. I'll give it more attention later. Right now I'm at Whataburger.
But my research of Reid's offense is that he has designed plays for the QB running the ball. His offense puts pressure on the defense because they always have to account for this. That's why the QB is a dual threat.
I read mention that there is a play in their playback called an inverted wishbone. Don't know what that is but it sounds interesting.
I'm not saying a dual threat QB can't, or doesn't, throw from the pocket. The definition of dual threat is exactly that, both running and passing. A dual threat QB is one that puts pressure on the defense because the defense has to respect, and plan for, the QB run. This dimension is a major component of the offense, although it may not be as important as the pocket pass or a RB run.Dude, every team has plays that call for the QB to run the football. Cmon, man.
Mahomes had 300 rushing yards and 2 TDS last year.
He threw for 5000 yards and almost 40 TDS
He’s a pocket passer.
This idea that these QBs are “dual-threat” is just a bad take.
All that means is your QB is terrible in the pocket so as the HC, you have to get him in space and free him up to make plays on the run or with his feet. This is also common in young rookie QBs because they are comfortable doing this. This works for just a short period of time and teams are able to contain the QB in the pocket and force him into his biggest weakness. If the HC presses the issue and tries to continue on this course, the QB inevitably ends up injured from taking too many hits outside the pocket where teams can tee off on him.
Justin Herbert had nearly identical numbers as Mahomes and he was a rookie. Both are able to break contain take off and make plays with their feet when they have to, but that is not the primary focus of their offense.
Throwing from the pocket is.
You do understand that pocket accuracy is the benchmark by which all of these NFL teams draft QBs, right?
By far the most important trait in a QB to any NFL team is making plays CONSISTENTLY from the pocket.
Yeah, that’s not really what the definition of “dual threat QB” historically means though.I'm not saying a dual threat QB can't, or doesn't, throw from the pocket. The definition of dual threat is exactly that, both running and passing. A dual threat QB is one that puts pressure on the defense because the defense has to respect, and plan for, the QB run. This dimension is a major component of the offense, although it may not be as important as the pocket pass or a RB run.
Yeah, that’s not really what the definition of “dual threat QB” historically means though.
It means a QB who rushes for a thousand yards and passes for two thousand in a season. Like Michael Vick did in 2006.
Problem is injuries. Vick simply could not sustain those rushing attempts and his numerous injuries took their toll on him. These kinds of QBs never last because once he breaks contain and takes off, all bets are off and he’s an easy target for the defense.
I think ideally we’re on the same page though.
We want a QB who can throw consistently from the pocket and when the pocket collapses for whatever reason, he can take off and make plays with his feet.
Like Watson, like Mahomes, like Herbert, like Allen, like Jackson, like Wilson.
Im not sure Mond is truly one of these guys. He has some traits of both but he is wildly erratic at times too. I do think Mond is better than Fields and light years better than Lance.
Mills is elite in the pocket and can when pressed make plays with his feet but he’s definitely not Mahomes level.
The more we talk the more I think we need to wait until next year and tank this season.
HOU would have its choice of Howell or Rattler.
I really like both of them.
We should be building a competitive team & stockpiling draft picks so when there is a QB we believe in we can maneuver to get him
No. This team has never focused on stockpiling draft picks for future use. When we trade multiple firsts, we trade future picks.Isn’t that what we did with Watson?
No. This team has never focused on stockpiling draft picks for future use. When we trade multiple firsts, we trade future picks.
If we had a 1st this year, instead of picking a flashy could be, we should trade down acquiring future picks & a solid player.