Don’t care for any of the 610 sportscasters. Locker, Hughley or the hayseed. Not worth listening to. Glad Innes is gone as well."We just recently got him on the field" -- Culley on Taylor. Amazing how baffled local sports media has been on this. Taylor hadn't done an in person press conference because he wasn't in person yet. How do I know this and McClain or any of the rest of them didn't? Not. That. Difficult.
This is a screengrab of 'Bubba' from 610 radio from Twitter:
He can talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and say absolutely nothing.
It's all about him, but as you can see his bulb is pretty dim.
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powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
It’s been a long time but when I lived in the Woodlands I worked in Houston before my office moved to the Woodlands. I do have good memories of driving home, never on 45 but through the Cypresswood? area, hated the traffic On 45. I’d stop at this ice house, get a two foot ice cold beer from this huge tub, pop the top and cruise home listening to Rich Lord and those clowns on 610. Actually does brings back some good memories...or maybe it was the brewski.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Educate me... where can I get this 2' tub?
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
You’d need a 2 foot beer, or 3, to tolerate listening to Rich Lord.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
You are asking me to go back several years. It’s going to be somewhere in the Hufsmith - Kuykendahl road areas just south of the Woodlands. I would hit Creekside Forest drive near there and cruise, much relaxed, into the Woodlands, maybe stopping at Rico’s for a happy hour margarita. The tub was just a huge ice filled horse trough filled with these 36? Ounce ice cold beers. I will never remember the name of the place. Just sitting there in the pines. We have great old rock beer joints here in the hill country but a Houston ice house rates right up there.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Oh I was benign to him. He was always more interested in restaurants and beach time as I remember.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I think most folks grew to dislike him over his conservative views.
When ya have a 4 hour radio show 5 days a week people are bound to mention things outside sports. Honestly, I don't recall any of his political views as I tuned that sh*t out.
I was surprised to see him go. Radio looks like a pretty cut throat business when you consider how many folks have come and gone.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Incorrect in you read what he posted. He meant that the Texans liked 2 of the 3 QBs and they were willing to go with either. I know from the connections that they liked Mills a lot but they could have been ok with say Trask. From what has come out it seems like Mills was 100% who the top target was.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Which QB did Arians ever correctly identify in the draft? When did the Vikings identify a franchise QB in the draft? Or did they have to trade for one?
The Bears, traded up from #3 to #2 to take Mitchell Trubisky before Mahomes and Watson.
The Texans passed on trading up to 6 to settle for Watson.
Every team in the league passed on trading up for/drafting Patrick Mahomes, the best player in the league? Why?
I wouldn't assume anything regarding first round QB, much less a third round QB. Covering for second QB contracts (5 years), zero first round QB from 2009-2016 are with their original team in 2021. If you hit on one, it was a fluke because it's all still a crapshoot. If you hit on one in the third round, immediately go and buy a bunch of lottery tickets.
And perhaps that's the ticket... put a bunch of bullets in your gun, draft QBs until you hit on one. Good example: 2012 Redskins. While many wrongly thought RG3 would become a franchise QB, it took Mike heeding his son Kyle Shanahan's concerns and deciding to draft two QBs in 2012. The second one was the better QB.
To be fair, he's responding to guys who've already put Davis Mills in the ring of honor.
Heck, yesterday dude's on 610 are already saying Davis is the 2nd best QB the Texans ever had.
Number19
Hall of Fame
I heard them saying he clearly has the best arm of our three quarterbacks.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
I've seen this posted a couple of times, and it's a little disingenuous. Stafford was with his original team for 12 years, Cam for 9. Luckily those 2 left recently or your time frame point would be blown up. And luckily your time frame starts in 2009, because Matt Ryan (2008) is still with his original team. And to be fair, only Wilson, Carr and Prescott, are with their original teams out of ALL QBs drafted from '09-'16. That's 95 QBs for those keeping a scorecard at home.
It's hard to find a "franchise" QB period. Doesn't matter what round. It does gets significantly harder past the 1st round though. Not that you can't find one there, but the odds are much longer.
So if you're trying to make some point for Mills by poo pooing 1st round QBs, again, disengenuous.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Man if you don’t stop preaching the true gospel around these parts. Spot got darn on.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Nobody is putting him there, come on big timer. Some just believe,if he’s coached up right, he’ll be a solid starter in this league.
This is possible, he's got the talent.
It's also possible he could flame out. Plenty of talented guys have flamed out.Nobody knows how this is going to play out. I will take my chances with a talented guy who graduated from Stanford early.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
looked to see what his major was but in the process saw that he was third in school history with a .655 career completion record and fourth in school history with a 141.9 career passing rating. BTW he had some weird degree that sounded like it was designed by millennials for millennials...Science, Tech and Society. wTF ?
Yes, very weird. Because science, technology, and society never intertwine.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
lol, it sounds equivalent to saying “Im going to write a book on the history of the world”.
You bring up some good points; however, none has anything to do with my arguments.
What I've been saying is that I want a QB that is a playmaker and a gamer that doesn't flinch in pressure situations.
Mahomes, Watson, Wilson... Those guys had demonstrated those traits in college.
Even Ian Book and Case Keenum had demonstrated that (but since they are smaller guys that don't quite have the ability to escape like Wilson, or to maneuver around the pocket quite as great as Brees, they're not as good prospects - and Keenum had missed a whole year due to injury.)
None of that has anything to do with the Buccs or the Vikings.
I brought them up as example of scheme fit.
Besides, Arians never had to draft a QB. I don't know if he and his GM were on the same page or not, but the Cards traded for Carson Palmer when Arians first got there.
With the Buccs, he was simply stuck with James Winston's last year of his contract.
Then he went out and got Brady.
Those moves sound like a safe plan.
But regarding Mills, I asked the question why didn't Bruce take Mills who boasts the strong arm that would fit with he wants in a QB (taking shot down field).
As for the Vikings, it was also about scheme fit.
Zimmer had decent success with Bradford and Bridgewater (until they got seriously injured) (only Bridgewater was drafted).
But they changed to a WCO .
Now, with Kubiak's son running it, Mills seems like an ideal fit, much more so then Mond, who played in a one back shotgun system at A&M.
Why?
IMO, Mills looks like a better prospect than Mond, especially in that offensive system.
But maybe those guys saw something else in Mind that they like.
What it boils down to (seems to me) was that Mond (and Trask) had had extensive experience against the better defenses.
(Trubisky did not, same with Mills).
And why I thought the Bears reached in that draft.
I also said that Mills is a very good prospect for a third rounder; it's just that I'm tired of the game-manager style of play.
I can barely tolerate Tannehill in his good years; I don't have the patience to wait for Mills to develop.
A guy like Ian Book costs even less in draft resource.
If he gets injured, you draft another guy.
He didn't graduate early.
He redshirted a year.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Brother they didn’t have a choice. And who knows Mills might be more than just a game manager.
Ok Graduated in a pandemic yr while playing football.
Tell me since you are Mr. technicality, How many football players graduate in 4 yrs? How many graduate in 4 yrs from Stanford? What makes you think Mills is going to be a game manager? He tested athletically better than the pervert and has a better arm. Apparently he has the ability to be much more than a game manager.
What does graduating college has to do with playing football?
Fitzpatrick, Jeff Kemp, Jay Fielder were Ivy Leaguers.
Didn't make them great QB.
What does the pandemic has to do with studying? Studying in college is supposedly finding answers for yourself.
A redshirt year, and a shorten football year actually give a player more time to study.
Science, Technology and Society is simply learning how science and techno can help society; it's not rocket science.
The guy can end up in marketing for all we know.
A play maker makes plays, in high school, in college, and in the pros. It doesn't happen overnight like magic.
RG III ran 4.38, had a 39" vertical, 10' broad jump. So what?
Texansballer74
The Marine
And Mills showed he can be a play maker in college (small sample size). Didn't watch none of his high school games but I'm sure plenty of colleges wanted him because of the things he was able to do. In high school the kid threw for 6290, 66 Touchdowns and only 10 interceptions . He also ran for 23 touchdowns, 898 rushing yards on 172 carries with 1 fumble. These stats shows he was a play maker in high school.
When the pocket is clean and the receiver is open, it's not making play.
Do you recall seing a play he made in college?
What does his highlight reel look like?
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
A lot of these play makers these days may be so because they miss or don’t comprehend their early reads or perhaps they think THEY are the system. look at the last SB. A forty+ Brady shamed the superstar play maker. Do you believe your Einstein DW will ever win a SB?
Texansballer74
The Marine
Did you watch any of his games?
Yes against UCLA the very first highlight has two defenders in his face and the young man stood tall and delivered a strike.
The highlight reel shows he has a lot of potential.
Tom Brady is a play maker.
But, yeah, he did have better protection in the SB.
What's the deal with the Einstein reference? Does it even make any sense?
Texansballer74
The Marine
You can go back and watch all of his highlights. I just pointed out one example.
Texansballer74
The Marine
The young man making plays with both his legs and arm on this highlight reel
Watch this game.
Do you see any instance in which someone even pressured him?
OK, maybe once.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
You and I very well know some games the opposing defense will not get any pressure. We’ve seen that pretty much all of last season with our very own Texans defense. So why are we nitpicking or cherry picking one aspect. If you don’t like the kid just say so.
Texansballer74
The Marine
What a tremendous video clip. NOT.
Come on, dude.
Ok you win bud
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
We'll shall see if Belichik is great without Brady. I tend to doubt it.
Pretty sure the Patriots greatness plays in Tampa now.
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TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
It’s been decades so people tend to forget but Brady started out as a “game manager” when he entered the league. It took him 7 seasons as a starter to break 30 td passes (the 16-0 regular season when he went from a career high 28 to 50) and he only had one 4000 yard season in that stretch.
I pointed out a couple of great throws that Mills made against Colorado under duress earlier in this thread. You are now in the process of moving the goalposts.
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LOL, the Einstein reference refers to the fact that your perverted guy is a dumbazz. Funny how you discount Brady's ability as a play maker. How many rings does this non play maker have now, I've lost count? BTW, he did this with a knee that needed surgery.
What a tremendous video clip. NOT.
Come on, dude.
Looks like a QB that throws with accuracy and anticipation and only runs as a last resort. Does that mean he's going to be an upper tier starter in the NFL? Who knows.
Texansballer74
The Marine
We'll see see if Belichik is great without Brady. I tend to doubt it.
Pretty sure the Patriots greatness plays in Tampa now.
That’s all good but Belichick helped mold Brady into the great HOF player he is right now. So of course New England will suffer because of the departure of one of the great player to put on those football pads.
Texansballer74
The Marine
It’s very clear that 76 doesn’t like this youngster for whatever reason. Therefore there’s nothing to talk about because objectivity is out the door.
No.
I always said that how a QB performs under pressure is very important.
And there are plenty of websites that reported on this shortcoming. (And he didn't even see that much pressure in college).
We have very different ideas about pressure then.
Sure, it's nice to see the QB throw a dart to an open receiver as pressure comes his way.
The fact remains:
He still had just enough time to throw the ball.
And he had a wide open receiver.
That's doing the game manager's job.
That's not making a play.
How is “all objectivity “ out the door? Mills has only one season as a starting QB and multiple injuries in his career. Those are objective reasons. Personally, I think I saw enough in that limited amount to take the risk. But there are legitimate reasons to not like the pick.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Brady was already called "the come-back kid" in college.
Tom Brady - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
There are plenty of scouting reports on Mills as well as a number of videos from football coaches dissecting his plays.
How's that for objectivity?
Heck, isn't the fact that he was the 8th QB drafted enough to tell that he's a project, not a great prospect.
And I had stated many times that he's a very good prospect for the third round.
But I don't even want good Tannehill or good Schaub.
I want more.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
What happened to Mahomes‘ play making skills in the SB? Thought your idea of a playmaker was being able to overcome critical situations. Einstein? Oh you said studying in college was about finding answers for yourself. the Texans play maker wasn’t studying at all it seems. My reference to a 40+ Brady was a subtle reference to his age and still winning the SB. seems like his type is more successful than those that try to run themselves out of tight situations. I guess to me a play maker is a quick read, intelligent QB that can run an offense, knows how to quickly get the ball out of his hands while seeing the whole field. It’s also being smart enough to execute this prototype without falling back on the physical ability to run away...which could be called controlled panic. I’m really interested in seeing what Kelly, Pep and Culley do with our QB’s. Taylor recently said he loves this O because it allows him to get the ball out of his hands quickly. He will use all of his O tools on the field, not just one slow opening WR.