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Texans Minicamp, OTA’s and Preseason
- Thread starter Texansballer74
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If healthy I'll take this bet.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Lol, this thread isn't about DW4, but even so I've got no regrets about us taking DW4...I'm a grown man and can admit things didn't work out...& not for why you may think either. Aside from that, you act like he wasn't going to be taken in the 1st round by someone if we didn't take him @ 12....... so just stop it please. You were wrong about his play on the field & you're wrong now on Jimmy G.
Everyone knows your posting style. You're stubborn...most times with no real solid reasoning and/or evidence to warrant it... Admirable in 1 sense, annoying as *&^% in another. DW4 being a top qb.......potus #45.......This Jimmy G is a good QB thing is just the latest hill you've chose to die on & you're just flat out wrong. 76 posted numbers showing you you're wrong, Jimmy G's former & current employers have told you you were wrong by trading him away & drafting his successor .................& you're still on this nonsense.
Nate Peterman and Christian Hackenberg are my ultimate definition of sucking. Yet, they had a lot of fans on this forum.
You aren't the 1st person to call me stubborn, nor will you be the last.
I like QBs that win instead of putting up a bunch of hollow numbers on a losing team.
I don't care what 76 puts up numbers wise
I look at jimmy G this way, Belichick was willing to go to war to keep him and Lil Shanny was willing to trade for Jimmy G and pay him like a franchise QB. I will go with some of the greatest football minds over what a bunch of keyboard warriors opinions might be.
... uh, no he wasn’t.
I mean it may have been reported somewhere, I haven’t seen it. But neither JimmyG or Brady is in NE. So... I’m not seeing any war Belichick was involved in.
But, Belichick has Hoyer so I guess us message board GMs got that one wrong too.
It was reported (No I'm not going to look it up) that Belichick didn't play Butler in the Philly SB in retaliation for Kraft making Belichick trade Jimmy G.
There's plenty of discussion on this topic out there if you want to look it up. (Kraft/Belichick)
Why did Kraft “make” Belichick trade JimmyG? To make Brady happy? Brady is in Tampa.
I hear what you’re saying, some yahoo reported it. But looking at NE’s QB roster today makes me think he was making up more than he wasn’t. I definitely wouldn’t repeat it as reliable information.
Why did Kraft “make” Belichick trade JimmyG? To make Brady happy? Brady is in Tampa.
I hear what you’re saying, some yahoo reported it. But looking at NE’s QB roster today makes me think he was making up more than he wasn’t. I definitely wouldn’t repeat it as reliable information.
It was said at the time.
Brady asked Kraft to trade Jimmy G, Kraft went along with Brady over Belichick. The Pats didn't win the SB that yr but beat the Rams the next yr. Ultimately, Kraft made the right call. The Pats got another ring.
The Patriots cannot afford to keep Jimmy G , unless he's really good.
His rookie deal was about to be up.
Paying him and Brady at the same time wouldn't leave enough money to build a competitive team.
I don't care whatever BB said to the press.
He's not dumb.
I don't believe for a minute that they were willing to offer $17-18M per to Jimmy G. back then.
It makes more sense that he was trying to trump up for some team to agree to trade for Jimmy.
If Jimmy was all that good, there would have been at least some kind of a bidding war for him.
To obtain Matt Schaub (who also had 3 years in the league up to that point similar to Jimmy), the Texans had to:
- Moved down two spots in the first (which was already huge)
- spent pick no. 39.
- spent a second round future pick (which was almost guaranteed to be fairly high to medium).
To obtain Jimmy G., all the Niners gave up was the 43rd pick.
That was it.
- Moved down two spots in the first (which was already huge)
- spent pick no. 39.
- spent a second round future pick (which was almost guaranteed to be fairly high to medium).
To obtain Jimmy G., all the Niners gave up was the 43rd pick.
That was it.
Texansballer74
The Marine
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Just seems like the Texans have assembled a bunch of coaches who take pride in coaching up players. I believe that would go for Culley as well. Look forward to see what this staff can do with the players Caserio brought in for the 2021 season.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Man me too I understand the doubt in a lot of fans. But I believe there’s some positive somewhere. That’s the reason why I post this type of info.
A lot of things are said, all the time. But what is said isn’t always true.
We can see neither Garapolo or Brady is in New England right now.
So who won? I don’t think anyone won because it doesn’t look like anyone went to war. Belichick & Kraft are like peas in a pod, loving life in NE & not thinking about JimmyG.
Kraft and Brady won because they got another SB.
You can choose to believe reported things or not. I believe either Curran or Voilin reported this and they're very in tune with the Pats org. This also included Belichick not liking the Brady/Guerro relationship.
Not much of a war, that’s all I’m saying. Belichick “going to war” sounds like bunk, since he didn’t do anything.
If he’d have left NE... now that’s going to war.
As is, Belichick wasn’t willing to bleed for Garapolo. We know this because he didn’t shed a drop. Regardless who reported otherwise
If he’d have left NE... now that’s going to war.
As is, Belichick wasn’t willing to bleed for Garapolo. We know this because he didn’t shed a drop. Regardless who reported otherwise
This wasn't about Jimmy G, this was about Belichick maintaining control. He didn't want to trade Jimmy G but Kraft Brady made him do it. Teddy J talked about these dynamics on 610 back when this went down and yes Belichick did respond by not playing Butler in a SB. That move probably cost Belichick/Brady another championship. But Belichick proved his point.
You can choose to believe what's been reported by veteran reporters on the Foxboro scene or not. Doesn't really matter to me. I know you could have text messages confirming this but as the DW4 thing has proven that wouldn't matter either because when posters mind are made up they're made up. It is what it is.
If that’s going to war, I’m glad he’s leading a football team & not troops
Not literally captain obvious. SMDH, Like I said you can call it what you want. There were serious repercussions for Kraft/Brady pulling rank on Belichick. To the tune of not giving his team its best chance to win a SB.
Willing to not play one of his best CB's in a SB to prove a point. How would you feel about this if you were a Pats fan?
Call it whatever you want.
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If he benched Brady, that would be an act of war.
Houston Texans OTAs: Defensive line grinds during first day of media availability
The Houston Texans defensive line put in work during the first day of media availability at organized team activities.
texanswire.usatoday.com
Texansballer74
The Marine
Texansballer74
The Marine
Texans WR Cooks: Rookie QB Mills 'Can Sling It'
Houston Texans wide receiver Brandin Cooks says rookie quarterback Davis Mills"can sling it," while also reaffirming his confidence that regardless of who is passing to him in 2021, he'll perform.
www.si.com
"Kid is smart, I mean, gosh, he went to Stanford," joked Cooks. "(He's) picking up the offense pretty fast, the guy can sling it, he's confident and you love to see that from a young guy."
Number19
Hall of Fame
Also said Collins has "natural" hands.Texans WR Cooks: Rookie QB Mills 'Can Sling It'
Houston Texans wide receiver Brandin Cooks says rookie quarterback Davis Mills"can sling it," while also reaffirming his confidence that regardless of who is passing to him in 2021, he'll perform.
"Kid is smart, I mean, gosh, he went to Stanford," joked Cooks. "(He's) picking up the offense pretty fast, the guy can sling it, he's confident and you love to see that from a young guy."
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Good job Baller. Man, is it me or do these players seem excited and motivated. Also when have we ever seen a coach talk about his coaching philosophy and his players as much as DC. I’m really enjoying this new era.Texans WR Cooks: Rookie QB Mills 'Can Sling It'
Houston Texans wide receiver Brandin Cooks says rookie quarterback Davis Mills"can sling it," while also reaffirming his confidence that regardless of who is passing to him in 2021, he'll perform.
"Kid is smart, I mean, gosh, he went to Stanford," joked Cooks. "(He's) picking up the offense pretty fast, the guy can sling it, he's confident and you love to see that from a young guy."
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Doubt he’s trying to please you
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Oh, I misunderstood how positive you are
Texansballer74
The Marine
Texans Coach Culley Praises QB Tyrod Taylor: 'Leader and Winner'
Houston Texans head coach David Culley says quarterback Tyrod Taylor is a leader and a winner, as well as being the first guy in and the last one out.
www.si.com
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
Go Jack Go, pose for the camera as you look directly into it...
Number19
Hall of Fame
Has anyone noticed how short training camp is, before they get into the shortened preseason games.
This year all teams report to training camp on the same day, July 27. There is only 2 1/2 weeks of workouts before the first preseason game on August 14.
This really isn't good for rookies to earn a starting position or to fully learn their playbook. This is particularly bad for rookie quarterbacks. Even newly acquired veterans.
The way things are currently set up, teams need to have a high percentage of continuity to begin the season well; then break in rookies as the season progresses.
I would think that this would also trend toward a simplification of the game.
This year all teams report to training camp on the same day, July 27. There is only 2 1/2 weeks of workouts before the first preseason game on August 14.
This really isn't good for rookies to earn a starting position or to fully learn their playbook. This is particularly bad for rookie quarterbacks. Even newly acquired veterans.
The way things are currently set up, teams need to have a high percentage of continuity to begin the season well; then break in rookies as the season progresses.
I would think that this would also trend toward a simplification of the game.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Do you know if there is an increased number of OTA’s etc or if they have ramped up zoom meetings? Wonder if NC incorporated this change with his emphasis on getting a bunch of one year contracts for TC competition?
Number19
Hall of Fame
I haven't looked extensively at OTA's, but I haven't noticed any major changes. Perhaps other posters could comment. But your last comment has merit and there has been extensive comment about this season, and the short term contracts, being a bridge to where the Texans are wanting to go in 2022 and 2023. Me personally, I could see smart managent taking the structure of the game into account in building a team and with contracts.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
From what I remember, they always start around that date.
Number19
Hall of Fame
You must be young. Back in the 70's and 80's training camp lasted up to 8 weeks and were brutal. Things began to change in the early 2000's, but googling, it seems real change has occurred in the past 10 years.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Oh, I remember. 6 pre-season games too.
But ever since the Texans have been in the league, camp has started the last week of July. And the July 27th start is still going to be 6+ weeks before the opener.
Number19
Hall of Fame
Did a little googling and you are correct. Thanks.
Texansballer74
The Marine
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Lookie who's in town.......
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Twitter confuses me. All I see is two players playing pitch and catch.
Is there another new player here?
Is there another new player here?
Texansballer74
The Marine
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Players are loving DC
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
"We just recently got him on the field" -- Culley on Taylor. Amazing how baffled local sports media has been on this. Taylor hadn't done an in person press conference because he wasn't in person yet. How do I know this and McClain or any of the rest of them didn't? Not. That. Difficult.
This is a screengrab of 'Bubba' from 610 radio from Twitter:
He can talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and say absolutely nothing.
It's all about him, but as you can see his bulb is pretty dim.
It’s the Patriot Way. That’s all they care about
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Right.Or is it the Caserio way?
Something else to ponder.
The Patriot way moved to Florida and is still winning Lombardi's. Meanwhile, the actual Patriots looked worse than even what we've seen from the Texans the last few years.
The Pats didn't have a QB last yr.
Give them a couple of yrs to let their QB grow, then we can talk. Between not having a QB and Covid plus Covid opt outs, what happened to the Pats last yr shouldn't be surprising. What surprised me is they won as many games as they did. Covid also wiped out the Pats biggest advantage, (Great Coaching)
I actually LMAO at posters openly rooting for the Pats demise. I frankly dont understand why posters hate greatness.