Texans Close the Deal for Schaub: confirmed by NFLNetwork

[GP]

Some of you need to get past the 2 2nd round picks we gave up.

Stop looking at the 2s and remain focused on how we have a Top 10 pick this year, in a draft where I think there are star-quality players to be had form picks 1-15.

We have a very good chance of picking up an immediate starter with our No. 10 pick.

Atlanta initially wanted a No. 1 for Schaub.

Now stop and think about us with no No. 10 pick. THAT would really be a sensitive subject right now, wouldn't it?

I dismiss the loss of round 2 picks, especially when we still have a Top 10 pick in a draft with great talent to be had in picks 1-15.

We got a good QB who had a higher price than what we had to pay, we have attempted to legitimize the RB spot with Ahman Green who is good at running, blocking, and pass catching, and we still have a Top 10 pick.

Too much focus on the loss of 2nd round picks. Does anyone even know the "slot" we would draft at with our 2008 2nd round pick? If it's a late rounder, it's not a total loss. What if it's conditional? They wanted a 1st and a 3rd, but now we're giving them a spot-swap in round one and a definite 2nd rounder in this year's draft. I could see the 2nd rounder becoming conditional in all the legalities of the deal. I guess we'll see soon enough when it gets finalized.

I sometimes think that some of you guys here are so accustomed to the lack of big time moves that you're whiplashed when we actually pull one off.

Everything's a gamble in the NFL.

I just happen to like THIS particular gambling move better than any of the ones we've ever made.

 

[TigerV1]

I do not really know anymore.This is too much for me to handle with all the Brady Quinn and Adrian Peterson talk. I have no idea what direction Kubiak and RS are going and it makes me feel uneasy.

The direction is up. This move might just be the most gutsy and important move in Texans history. If Schaub comes in and falls on his face then Smith and Kubiak as well as most NFL experts were wrong, but if Schaub comes in and performs well (like most believe he will) then we come out on top with this trade. I like it.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

I think I am going to be sick.

Here is what the Texans are thinking. Could 2 2nd Round Picks get a Top 5 pick to grab Quinn or Russell? No. They felt that Schaub (only 25) was as good if not better risk than Quinn or Russell (and cheaper). This way they keep their 1st Round pick (still allowing DB help from hall, nelson, landry, or perhaps someone falls to 10 like gaines) and get their QB that could actually be the Quarterback Of The Future. Guy is only 25 and already has a good grasp on being a QB in the NFL.

Would you rather have Quinn and Aaron Ross and another 2nd Round pick - or - Landry/Nelson and Schaub? The Texans chose the latter and think that this gives us a chance to win now. I would have rather next years pick been a 3rd Round that could turn into a 2nd Round if we are 9-7 or better. Something like that.

Its a new day for the Texans. I hope things go well. I am already all geeked up for the season.

 

[Playmaker]

You can keep on talking all the nonsense you want, but a freaking blind man can get lucky and throw up a pass and score a TD in the last 10 games of a season......I guess you can say every blind man has his day, also known as Carr day.

I do find it funny you keep on bringing up phrases like "your next heroic feat" or "ballet", when you were the one that tried to call me out as a bum, when your probably the one who can't make it across the livingroom without hitting the oxygen tank ........but whatever. Carr is nothing special and isn't worth the money he's getting paid and thats the bottom line.

No, again, all I was saying that you couldn't have done a better job, much less the blind man. Talking out of one's arse on a board and actually being an NFL QB are 2 different things, I hope you'll allow me that assumption.

So you're not a fan of Carr...that's great, let's move on.

PS. Yeah I can get to fridge without breaking a sweat...you wanna time me...LOL

 

[El Amigo Invisible]

The direction is up. This move might just be the most gutsy and important move in Texans history. If Schaub comes in and falls on his face then Smith and Kubiak as well as most NFL experts were wrong, but if Schaub comes in and performs well (like most believe he will) then we come out on top with this trade. I like it.

I thought we valued our draft picks under this new regime.This was our chance to start over and build our team from the ground up.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Who knew that so many people would be excited by having 2 back up QB's and a QB lots on this board refer to as a back up. WhooooHeeee we have 3 back ups and 2 back up back ups.

translation: my peepee hurts.

 

[bigbrewster2000]

Another bad move by the FO. The nightmare continues. When will they stop being taken advantage by the other NFL teams. This deal stinks "another backup to be starter". In that case start Sage and pick a rookie quarterback in the draft. Schaub started two games in 3 years and lost both.

Shaub has always been regarded as a better player than Sage or any rookie for that matter. The kid is highly touted for a reason and with his skills, he seems to fit our scheme very well. I don't think it is neccesary for you to jump off the cliff on your first post. You should wait til the 10th one. Welcome aboard.

 

[reelumin]

TigerV1 how can you assume this Schaub guy is gonna perform? He was a 3rd round pick and hasn't done anything in the NFL. The GM in Atlanta is the one doing a great job by marketing him to be great and Smith is taking the bait.

 

[bigbrewster2000]

I thought we valued our draft picks under this new regime.This was our chance to start over and build our team from the ground up.

This move doesn't signify starting over to you?

 

[The Dream]

never mind I just read through some of the pages and this might actually turn out pretty good....

so what exactly is the current deal as of right now? (I see a buch of reports from different sources)

 

[HOU-TEX]

TigerV1 how can you assume this Schaub guy is gonna perform? He was a 3rd round pick and hasn't done anything in the NFL. The GM in Atlanta is the one doing a great job by marketing him to be great and Smith is taking the bait.

How can you assume anyone drafted is going to perform? Schaub has a much better chance for success considering 3 years experience and a little playing time.

 

[El Amigo Invisible]

This move doesn't signify starting over to you?

by giving away draft picks ? That 's what I do not understand.I know we could get Schuab for ONE (UNO) second round pick.

 

[Nawzer]

All Matt Schaub has to do is play better than David Carr. Which is not asking much...

 

[El Amigo Invisible]

All Matt Schaub has to do is play better than David Carr. Which is not asking much...

Will he be better than Vince Young? Sorry I had to go there.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

never mind I just read through some of the pages and this might actually turn out pretty good....

so what exactly is the current deal as of right now? (I see a buch of reports from different sources)

the deal is Schaub for 2 2nd rounders and we swap #8 and #10 picks.

so basically we throw a pick away and draft Schaub in the 2nd Round this year. We then drop to #10 and still get one of 'our guys'

the deal isnt the greatest but not a Hershel Walker trade disaster. It is still a good day Dream. A very good day. A new beginning.

that is the consensus detail of the deal. there have been a few different versions and I actually hope its a 2nd this year and a 3rd next year (that could turn into 2nd round with good performance out of Schaub). They wanted a 1st Round, we gave them 2 2nds. We may try and package our 3rd and other picks (maybe from Carr's deal) to move back up to 2nd round to get a Center not named Kalil.

 

[bigbrewster2000]

TigerV1 how can you assume this Schaub guy is gonna perform? He was a 3rd round pick and hasn't done anything in the NFL. The GM in Atlanta is the one doing a great job by marketing him to be great and Smith is taking the bait.

How can You assume that a rookie will perform? A QB with 3 years under his belt probably has a better chance of doing so than a rookie does.

 

[reelumin]

Bigbrewster I follow football closely and a long time season ticket holder (since the Oilers). You are probably a Mario "do nothing" Williams fan who cheered when they picked him last year with the #1 pick. This trade goes along the same line "dumb move".

 

[Errant Hothy]

A poster on teh KFFL message board is reporting that a radio station, 790 the sports monster (sstupid name) is reporting that Schaub signed for 5 yrs 20 million.

Yes I know how fourth hand this is, but it's the only info I've seen on the contract

 

[Specnatz]

Who knew that so many people would be excited by having 2 back up QB's and a QB lots on this board refer to as a back up. WhooooHeeee we have 3 back ups and 2 back up back ups.

Yes and we know that one of the back-ups can't start because he has tried and has not worked out. At least the new back-up QB will now have a chance to start and see how he performs compared to the back-up that was starting and not doing so well.

 

[humbleone]

I thought we valued our draft picks under this new regime.This was our chance to start over and build our team from the ground up.

Well said...and this move is actually very disturbing on several fronts.

 

[Nawzer]

Will he be better than Vince Young? Sorry I had to go there.

As long as the Texans are better than VY I'll be happy

 

[TigerV1]

TigerV1 how can you assume this Schaub guy is gonna perform? He was a 3rd round pick and hasn't done anything in the NFL. The GM in Atlanta is the one doing a great job by marketing him to be great and Smith is taking the bait.

Just because he was a 3rd round pick doesn't mean anything. I assume he will perform because I believe the hype. If it turns out the hype was wrong then we lose out. There is a huge upside and downside to this. I just like the upside too much to think this is a bad move.

 

[Silver Oak]

Will he be better than Vince Young? Sorry I had to go there.

Well, they're saying he has a good pocket presence, so that gives him high marks over VY right there.

 

[bigbrewster2000]

by giving away draft picks ? That 's what I do not understand.I know we could get Schuab for ONE (UNO) second round pick.

You know this how? No one knows the actual perameters of this deal yet. What we do know for sure is that a second round pick is envolved and really nothing else. We will find out the rest tomorrow. And yes we now have a new starting QB, which to me signifies starting over. Good move PERIOD.

 

[afcman]

How can You assume that a rookie will perform? A QB with 3 years under his belt probably has a better chance of doing so than a rookie does.

I agree. I think the Broncos put Cutler in way too early. Arizona did the same thing. I'd like to see us get a QB in the draft next year. For our needs RIGHT NOW, I like this move.

 

[dirty steve]

never mind I just read through some of the pages and this might actually turn out pretty good....

so what exactly is the current deal as of right now? (I see a buch of reports from different sources)

right now the most common compensation rumored is moving to #10 overall in this draft and moving our #2 picks in 2007 and 2008.

 

[ThaShark316]

Bigbrewster I follow football closely and a long time season ticket holder (since the Oilers). You are probably a Mario "do nothing" Williams fan who cheered when they picked him last year with the #1 pick. This trade goes along the same line "dumb move".

So easy to be effective with probably one of the most NAGGING injury in sports...especially football and basketball.

 

[El Amigo Invisible]

I agree. I think the Broncos put Cutler in way too early. Arizona did the same thing. I'd like to see us get a QB in the draft next year. For our needs RIGHT NOW, I like this move.

No Boy Band for all the ladies out there!

 

[Pip]

by giving away draft picks ? That 's what I do not understand.I know we could get Schuab for ONE (UNO) second round pick.

No way, Atl standing offer has always been a 1st and a 2nd. The vikings tried to get him last year for less, but Atl wouldn't budge. He was tendered at the highest level this year (1st & 3rd).

 

[freedoggy77]

and this after all the hullabaloo that the Texans WILL NOT give up draft picks

 

[reelumin]

Backup QB is not worth two second rounders and a move down in the 1st round. He hasn't done anything in the NFL and you give this much for him. Dumb. I you draft a QB you keep the picks and hope the rookie QB pans out. Your giving up picks and hope a past 3rd rd QB pans out? Doesn't make sense.

 

[Ckw]

Backup QB is not worth two second rounders and a move down in the 1st round. He hasn't done anything in the NFL and you give this much for him. Dumb. I you draft a QB you keep the picks and hope the rookie QB pans out. Your giving up picks and hope a past 3rd rd QB pans out? Doesn't make sense.

You sign up for the board to post this? Well I respect your opinion but could respect it more if you had a few more opinions...

 

[El Amigo Invisible]

and this after all the hullabaloo that the Texans WILL NOT give up draft picks

EXACTLY!

 

[Malloy]

TigerV1 how can you assume this Schaub guy is gonna perform? He was a 3rd round pick and hasn't done anything in the NFL. The GM in Atlanta is the one doing a great job by marketing him to be great and Smith is taking the bait.

He did'nt, he actually listed the possibility of both a success and a failure.

 

[El Amigo Invisible]

Backup QB is not worth two second rounders and a move down in the 1st round. He hasn't done anything in the NFL and you give this much for him. Dumb. I you draft a QB you keep the picks and hope the rookie QB pans out. Your giving up picks and hope a past 3rd rd QB pans out? Doesn't make sense.

I am in agreement with all of you! This has never happened before....am i on the right message board?

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Basically, if you were from the 'our team has too many holes to draft a QB in the 1st Round' school, well now you get your cake and eat it too. your gonna have a little less cake next year but who wants to wait for cake?

win now baby....its what the NFL is all about with all the parity and FA movement

 

[Trap_Star]

 

[potisyourfriend]

Backup QB is not worth two second rounders and a move down in the 1st round. He hasn't done anything in the NFL and you give this much for him. Dumb. I you draft a QB you keep the picks and hope the rookie QB pans out. Your giving up picks and hope a past 3rd rd QB pans out? Doesn't make sense.

There's been a few good QB's in later rounds.. Just look at what our Number 1 QB pick got us..

 

[My Hero]

I watched Schaub play against Philly. Vick was stinking it up and got pulled for a series because he he broke a nail or something. The Eagles had his number and were shutting him down.

Enter Matt Schaub....the ball starts moving down the field....first downs are getting made...and it turned out that their "crappy" receivers could actually catch the ball.

The next series...Vick comes back in and gets shut down again.

From what I've seen, he's a damn good QB. It's pretty obvious that the people that are down on him haven't seen him play.

Gee if they shut down Vick and couldn't win the game, then why not give Schaub some more looks?

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Gee if they shut down Vick and couldn't win the game, then why not give Schaub some more looks?

for the same reason that Sage didnt get promoted over Carr last year. $$$$

 

[Specnatz]

Gee if they shut down Vick and couldn't win the game, then why not give Schaub some more looks?

Same reason certain people keep wanting to give Carr more time.

 

[potisyourfriend]

Gee if they shut down Vick and couldn't win the game, then why not give Schaub some more looks?

I guess you don't think money is involved huh? Vick gets alot of cash for playing as a QB for the Falcons.. And their Owner is in love with Vick, borderline man crush..

 

[Blu]

A msg from one of my buddies

I saw Schaub against PATS 2 years ago: QB Matt Schaub completed a career-high 18 passes on 34 attempts for a career-high 298 yards with a career-high three touchdowns. Looked good! It was only his 2nd start! Still can draft Kolb don’t think he will go real high

 

[bigbrewster2000]

Bigbrewster I follow football closely and a long time season ticket holder (since the Oilers). You are probably a Mario "do nothing" Williams fan who cheered when they picked him last year with the #1 pick. This trade goes along the same line "dumb move".

Hmm...first of all you aparently know nothing about me or anyone else on this message board. 3 posts and already begin the personal attacks. I also follow football and have since I was 5. I am not a season ticket holder but that simply has to do with monetary resources not for lack of love for my home town team. In other words I could care less if your a season ticket holder or not.

What does last years pick have to do with Matt Schaub? Don't answer, I will: NOTHING!
What do you know about me? Not a bleeping thing. I try to welcome you on this board and you act like a turd. Don't start getting pissy at me newbie. For the record I was furious about the Mario pick when it happened, but got over it and deal with it like everyone else here has.

 

[Topher]

Same reason certain people keep wanting to give Carr more time.

 

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Just a thought: This reminds me of the Dolphins giving up a 2nd for AJ Feely. Not saying Schaub won't pan out, just that it seems like too much of a risk and one that isn't a necessity.

It's a lot to give up for a QB who hasn't proven he can lead or become a legitimate starter in this league.

I feel for you, though. I definitely know what it feels like when almost everything your FO touches turns turdalicious.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Gee if they shut down Vick and couldn't win the game, then why not give Schaub some more looks?

see you arent even giving the guy one snap as a Texans QB before you throw him under the bus. you lose. go to Raiders Forum.

 

[potisyourfriend]

Just a thought: This reminds me of the Dolphins giving up a 2nd for AJ Feely. Not saying Schaub won't pan out, just that it seems like too much of a risk and one that isn't a necessity.

It's a lot to give up for a QB who hasn't proven he can lead or become a legitimate starter in this league.

I feel for you, though. I definitely know what it feels like when almost everything your FO touches turns turdalicious.

LOL, nice name.. And I feel for Lions fans.. Houston aint got nothin on them with bad season after bad season..

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Same reason certain people keep wanting to give Carr more time.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Specnatz again.

 

[TEXANRED]

We didn't swap 1st's did we? I am hearing we will give up two #2's.

Do we still have Carr?