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tacoman_j said:
Divebomb said:Unless I see it on this web site I do not believe that garbage. sporting news, those guys have no clue about the Texans
Texans Pride said:Megan Manfall also writes for the Chronicle
painekiller said:Megan Manfull has been out for a while on maternity leave. So this is an old article. Sorry to burst everyone bubble.
tacoman_j said:
I couldn't agree more! With Wand starting ahead of Spencer I think our # of sacks will be lesser compared is Spencer started off the season with no experience and his bad footwork. Looks like a Wand is diffently going to have his hands full throughout the first half of the season. Have you seen our schedule and his matchups. He should have it a lot easier during the second half of the season although.Hervoyel said:Aside from the fact that the article might not be up to date why would this suck? I'd expect Wand to beat out a rookie LT with as little experience as Spencer has. I'd also expect the coaches to start the one that gave us the best chance to win.
It doesn't matter if it's Wand or Spencer I want the best guy we have for the position to play it.
painekiller said:Megan Manfull has been out for a while on maternity leave. So this is an old article. Sorry to burst everyone bubble.
Even if the article is old, I'd be willing to bet anyone that he starts the season.jerek said:That makes sense, but it was the August 27 up top that threw me off.
WILLIEG said:Even if the article is old, I'd be willing to bet anyone that he starts the season.
[[Gary Kubiak]] said:Give Wand least 3 games.
Hervoyel said:Aside from the fact that the article might not be up to date why would this suck?
[[Gary Kubiak]] said:Could it be that Wand is more mobile and decent at best at pass protect?
I have also seen alot of tape this year as well, but the deciding factor will be GK deciding to go with an unexperienced LT who is really built like a guard or the experience (although limited) of Wand who has done a better job in my grading of him compared to Spencer. The first half of the season is giong to be really hard for whoever GL sticks in there at LT. I do agree that Wand at best is a servicable LT and the only reason he will start over Sencer is, because of his footwork and experience. Spencer is strong in the upper body, but has a long way to go with his footwork. Wand has great footwork, but is weak in the upper body. Pick your Poison!jerek said:I'm not so confident so as to bet you, but it wouldn't surprise me if Spencer makes the starter role. That he started against the Broncos -- the closest thing we have to a regular season dress rehearsel -- IMO is testament that Kubiak is very seriously considering the prospect, if he hasn't already decided on it.
Wand has shown substantial improvement but IMO there is a lot of sunshine blowing when it comes to the guy on this board. I have watched a lot of tape the past few weeks and he has made his own mistakes. I will happily admit that I may have been quick to condemn Seth back when we were early into camp and I was reporting on his position drill work, but I stand by my assertion that he is not likely the franchise LT of this team. There is plenty of time yet for him to prove me wrong but I'm still leaning toward Spencer inheriting the position sooner rather than later.
Napa Auto Parts said:So in all of this were does winston fall i fell in love with him during draft time on NFL radio with PK Calling him a monster and praising him saying he was 1st round talent.
jerek said:Wand has shown substantial improvement ...
Well Said!Runner said:I think this is important. Wand has a new system (like everyone else) and more importantly has been taught proper technique for the first time in his career. If he is showing "substantial improvement", why assume that improvement has reached its summit? As he gets more and more comfortable with the system and doing things the right way he should continue to improve.
IMO, a lot of his struggles early on were caused by him thinking about what to do rather than just naturally doing it. As everything is becoming automatic he is performing better. I don't think his improvement stops just because camp has ended and pre-season is ending.
For that matter, I expect everyone to get better as the season progresses.
WILLIEG said:This is pretty easy to believe to me. If you watched any of the games during the pre-season than you would have noticed how Spencer lacks the footwork in order to keep the defenders from beating him. Although he is strong as hell and has a strong first punch, that's all he has. He often over extends himself out on DE's and that leaves the inside open to bring down the QB. Wand is much better in his footwork, but he is really weak in the upper body and lets the defenders lock into him to much. So pick your poison. Would you rather have a young inexperienced LT that has bad footwork and will get beat on the inside/outside, but good upper body strength or an experienced LT that is weak in the upper body and lets defenders into his body, but has very good footwok. Carr success starts up front!
Texas said:Even if Spencer isnt yet better then Wand I still think spencer should start because the fact is he WILL be better...And the more practice the merrier.
I to find dubious wisdom in this philosophy, but teams do it frequently.Runner said:Interesting concept - don't put your best players on the field. Start the ones you predict will be better at some point inthe future.
Should we do this at every position?
nunusguy said:I to find dubious wisdom in this philosophy, but teams do it frequently.
Capers & crew did it with Babin based upon his "perceived" potential, and
Kubiak & Co may be doing it right now with Mario.
Kaiser Toro said:Spencer in my opinion has terrific and agile feet for a man his size. His footwork from a technique (balance) standpoint may be in question. Just want to throw my two cents out there, before Spencer gets labeled as a big immobile ogre, which I firmly believe he is not.
nunusguy said:I to find dubious wisdom in this philosophy, but teams do it frequently.
Capers & crew did it with Babin based upon his "perceived" potential, and
Kubiak & Co may be doing it right now with Mario.
Kaiser Toro said:Spencer in my opinion has terrific and agile feet for a man his size. His footwork from a technique (balance) standpoint may be in question. Just want to throw my two cents out there, before Spencer gets labeled as a big immobile ogre, which I firmly believe he is not.
Runner said:Agreed. I'm not binary - I don't think if Wand is good then Spencer is bad, or if Spencer is good Wand is bad.
I think Wand is a better player right now. I think both players are starter quality and getting better. This is a good thing.
Kaiser Toro said:I agree on Wand. Just did not think the protrait being painted of Spencer was framed properly.
Runner said:Like I mentioned before - what if Wand and Spencer are clearly our best tackles after a few games (or their is an injury at RT)? Do you flip one to RT?
Runner said:We need an RT for the future too though. I'm not ready to give that crown to Winston until I see something on the field that warrants it.
I really think if it were not for where Mario was drafted, he might not displace either Weaver at strongside DE or the Babin/Peek combo on the other side for the season opener against Philly. I do think he would start atxtruroyaltyx said:You honestly think we have a DE better than Mario ?
tacoman_j said:
JohnGalt said:If one is starting at LT and there is an injury at RT. I think you move the other over to RT for the sake of continuity on the left.
Kaiser Toro said:Spencer in my opinion has terrific and agile feet for a man his size. His footwork from a technique (balance) standpoint may be in question.