Pretty disappointing draft

[AcresHomesTexan]

There are legitimate questions to ask about certain picks or moves the texans, but think that this was an irresponsible draft probably goes too far.

 

[swtbound07]

I dislike the statement that "These guys are professional, you can't criticize".

I can damn well criticize. The front office may get checks, but I watch football too. Owen Daniel is a Pro Bowl Tight end. Since Owen, we have acquired 6 more tight ends that I'm aware of. We've never had anybody anywhere approaching competent at FS. We've acquired none that I'm aware of. Generally this board is right when it has a collective opinion. We didn't need to be paid for our opinions when we all thought Carr should have sat behind tony banks to learn the NFL. We didn't need paychecks when we all thought the Jason Babin pick was ridiculously stupid. We needed a good offseason as a franchise to get over that final hump to being a playoff team. We got a shiny new kicker and a really fast midget. Color me disappointed.

 

[Corrosion]

I think you got it backwards. Pollard was a difference maker on the team last year and Wilson has the question of staying on the field.

Woops I did type that backwards ....

 

[steelbtexan]

I think what we do ... me included ... is watch some games , youtube videos , and read from some guys who may not know much , and get names . When these names start falling and we pick a guy that Joe Blow ranked lower ... we panic . Then we pick a position that we feel is not a need and all hell breaks lose .

Right now you can't get to up or to down about the draft because nobody knows what's going to happen with these players . So I'll just wait and see and hopefully we get 4-5 guys who contribute alot this year .

This draft was day 1 starter material through rd 3. IMHO

I would have traded the rest of my draft to get into the top 5 of the 3rd rd.

Then you could have gotten 4 day 1 starters.

Asamoah fell to the 3rd. So did Burnett and Wright. Immediate impact guys.

 

[texansdrummer]

Honestly....I like this draft. Admittedly, I was not necessarily as thrilled about it when it went down - but in retrospect, that's because I don't spend my entire life watching film and interviewing players.

Having had the opportunity to review our picks, I am excited about what we've done. It's a good thing that draft day is no longer one of the most exciting days for our franchise.....that means we're getting better.

I can see how Tate may end up making a huge difference for us. I can get on board with Kareem as well. Trindon is definitely gonna provide some excitement, and the other picks added competition to our team. From 3-4 picks on down....I like that we chose the BPA, vs. filling a need, because if we purely chose on need at that point, what real chance would those guys seriously have? It'd be a total waste!

I've actually been more disappointed with several of our previous drafts.......considering where we were at the time, and what was available.

I think we had a very good draft.....let's just keep in mind that as our team improves, the draft may not (fortunately) be quite as exciting as it may have been in the past.

Welcome aboard, our new Texans!

 

[buddyboy]

This draft was day 1 starter material through rd 3. IMHO

I would have traded the rest of my draft to get into the top 5 of the 3rd rd.

Then you could have gotten 4 day 1 starters.

Asamoah fell to the 3rd. So did Burnett and Wright. Immediate impact guys.

This is absurd. There are no guaranteed "day 1 starter material" players in ANY round. Your draft strategy sounds a lot like "Smarter than Everyone Else in the Room" Casserly who moved up with multiple picks to pick Babin (obviously an IMPACT player) and traded several picks for P-Burnt, since those players were just "MUST HAVES".

The Texans FO has been making some good late round picks, why throw them away for, let me emphasize, a CHANCE to get a good starter with a third rounder?

 

[leebigeztx]

I think everyone should do draft grades using emoticons. Draft grades are silly so as long as you are being silly, you should use emoticons.

My TC blog take:
Houston Texans draft link dump + commentary + emoticon draft grades

Mostly stuff that diehards know, but a few fun facts mixed in. Hardest part of the post was figuring out the emoticons that best reflected fan feelings.

This needs to be said a million times. Just because a poster wanted taylor mays or this guys, now he's pissed and its a dissapointing draft. As i have said a few times, call me in 3 years to see about a draft. Maybe daniels is slow to recover and graham or one of the other guys step and and become a pro bowl type. Who would have thought quinn or mccain from last year would be as productive as they were? I guess thats why they call people fans

 

[badboy]

Hey, I wasn't stupefyingly thrilled with all the Texans selections, but where do you get the idea that only the Texans had Jackson rated highest at the time? Good lord, even Kiper had him rated as the highest CB available at the time and his choices aren't exactly secret.

If we got a legitimate #1 CB in the first round, we've improved (Dunta was nobody's #1 but us)

Driving home yesterday, I was flipping between the four local sports channels as I usually do and 790 the ESPN station and 610 sports channel each had "experts" voicing their evaluation of the draft. Each had Wilson rated higher than Jackson and one gave the Texans a C- grade for the draft.

 

[Texans_Chick]

Driving home yesterday, I was flipping between the four local sports channels as I usually do and 790 the ESPN station and 610 sports channel each had "experts" voicing their evaluation of the draft. Each had Wilson rated higher than Jackson and one gave the Texans a C- grade for the draft.

Scouts, Inc. had Jackson as the #2 CB in the draft, and the #19 pick in their top 100.

 

[BIG TORO]

Im happy for the most part and I was wanting and talking about Kareem on this board before he was even mentioned.

 

[leebigeztx]

Driving home yesterday, I was flipping between the four local sports channels as I usually do and 790 the ESPN station and 610 sports channel each had "experts" voicing their evaluation of the draft. Each had Wilson rated higher than Jackson and one gave the Texans a C- grade for the draft.

If you want to hear about real foorball and real opinions, get sirius and listen to those guys. As texans chick have said, on most scouts boards, jackson was the 19th rated prospect and #2 corner. He can come in and play and start right now either as a boundry or slot guy. In regards to taylor mays, I like the guy and maybe he will be a good player, but teams will iso him because he has slow hips. The guy has no flexibility to turn in transition and run without losing speed. I'm not saying the texans shouldn't have drafted him, but you're basically committing to single high with him.

 

[threetoedpete]

The only questions here is : Is one Earl Thomas or one Mike Iupati worth all the depth and weapons they accumulated in the 2010 draft? And does this class give us enough of a lift to win the division out right ? And we won't know the answers until we've run through a sixteen game schedule. I'm not a professional scout. What I see is a team who stood up true to their draft board and drafted pieces that they were lacking. Now whether or not they get us over the hump and sweep two division foes and split with the other, we'll just have to wait and see. But there is no doubt this was a "scouts" draft.

 

[Corrosion]

Driving home yesterday, I was flipping between the four local sports channels as I usually do and 790 the ESPN station and 610 sports channel each had "experts" voicing their evaluation of the draft. Each had Wilson rated higher than Jackson and one gave the Texans a C- grade for the draft.

Scouts, Inc. had Jackson as the #2 CB in the draft, and the #19 pick in their top 100.

Where the experts had them ranked makes no difference ....

Where we had them ranked matters not ....

Where the Texans had them ranked .... matters.

We can complain about it all we want but we cant change it and until they get on the field we wont have any real idea of who was right and who was wrong.

They are pretty close in measurables with Jackson a half inch taller and two pounds heavier - their 40 times are almost a mirror image. And Jackson played against considerably better competition in the SEC. Lets give this kid and this staff the benifit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

The only questions here is : Is one Earl Thomas or one Mike Iupati worth all the depth and weapons they accumulated in the 2010 draft? And does this class give us enough of a lift to win the division out right ? And we want know the answers until we've run through a sixteen game schedule. I'm not a professional scout. What I see is a team who stood up true to their draft board and drafted pieces that they were lacking. Now whether or not they get us over the hump and sweep two division foes and split with the other, we'll just have to wait and see. But here is no doubt this was a "scouts" draft.

I think that depends upon their head to head meetings with the Dolts and in particular how the Texans front seven perform against the Dolts OL who has taken a step back. They really needed some help at the LT spot and didnt get it. If the Texans can exploit that weakness or another team puts Manning on the shelf because of it ..... this division is ripe for the taking.

 

[beerlover]

Historically Nolan Nawrocki has been less than flattering of the Texans drafts. Here is this years take:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/04/25/ravens-patriots-stand-out-on-draft-weekend

Houston Texans
GM Rick Smith filled some pressing needs with the first three picks, landing two potential starters in Kareem Jackson and Ben Tate with his first two picks, both of whom fit the Texans' schemes perfectly. The team might have reached slightly in the next two rounds, but Earl Mitchell can have an impact as a nickel rusher and Darryl Sharpton value on special teams. Rounds 4-7 brought great upside, as TE Garrett Graham should benefit learning from fellow Wisconsin grad Owen Daniels. Sherrick McManis could provide versatility as a corner/safety. Shelley Smith fits the Texans' run game very well and has swing backup potential. Trindon Holliday could provide a spark in the return game, and Dorin Dickerson, drafted as a receiver, has upside to be groomed. Smith moved down the board several times, acquiring additional picks and landed nine rookies who could fend for roster spots, including three potential starters in the first three rounds. It may not appear flashy, but it was a productive draft, valuing intelligence and character, as he drafted very safely.
Grade: B-plus

I tend to view the Texans draft similar, productive, keyed on intelligence/character, athletes & played it very safely. they traded down in 2nd got nervous then traded back up. I get that kinda reflects how they play on the football field too, they'll stretch teams out between the 20's then they get tighter & tighter the closer they get to the endzone.

Coverage on Texans draft sucked making it more frustrating to get a grip on each selection (network went to commercial seemingly every Texans pick) along with very high, informed expectations from its own fan base, there is probably no way they could have lived up to any of our own mock drafts. Difference between reality & fantasy I guess

 

[threetoedpete]

This was not a great class of corners. Only one went in the top fifteen, four total unless you count Earl Thomas as a CB prospect. Those that went in the first round were the ones drafted by teams with a major need except the Saints. Arguing about which one was better is about as useless as arguing how many angles can dance on the end of a pin. Just be glad I wasn't the GM Thomas or Iupati would of been our pick. If we see Jackson starting the first game against the Colts, I'll be pretty shocked.

 

[wagonhed]

I like to look at the CB situation like this.

Pretend the "top 3" CBs in this year's draft were the top 3 LBs in last years draft.

Aaron Curry (Joe Haden) was a lock to go near the top of the draft, and he did. Most Texans fans wanted Clay Matthews (Kyle Wilson), but he ended up falling to late in the 1st. Instead, the Texans drafted Brian Cushing (Kareem Jackson) who wasn't rated as highly by some, surprising the fans, but ultimately getting the DROY.

Obviously if we compare it to last years situation, both LBs taken after Curry ended up being stars, which seems perfectly possible here. But we took Jackson and I no longer care how good Wilson is, as long as Jackson becomes a star for the Texans.

 

[beerlover]

I like to look at the CB situation like this.

Pretend the "top 3" CBs in this year's draft were the top 3 LBs in last years draft.

Aaron Curry (Joe Haden) was a lock to go near the top of the draft, and he did. Most Texans fans wanted Clay Matthews (Kyle Wilson), but he ended up falling to late in the 1st. Instead, the Texans drafted Brian Cushing (Kareem Jackson) who wasn't rated as highly by some, surprising the fans, but ultimately getting the DROY.

Obviously if we compare it to last years situation, both LBs taken after Curry ended up being stars, which seems perfectly possible here. But we took Jackson and I no longer care how good Wilson is, as long as Jackson becomes a star for the Texans.

good analogy, that's why its important to give them the benefit of doubt.

 

[badboy]

I had Wilson rated as the best available corner and Jackson right behind him on draft day .... They werent seperated by much imo.

But the more I think about it the more I can see why the Texans chose Jackson .... Nick Saban coached DB - He's NFL ready from that standpoint.

As for recovery speed - You have to take into account the level of competition. The SEC is a few steps above the Big Ten in terms of overall talent.

The fact that the Texans had their choice of every CB not named Haden and they took Jackson tells me they got their guy - not just leftovers. I'll give them the benifit of the doubt.

Saban is a good coach and the team did pretty well but Boise State's Petersen led the team to 14-0 and 4th place with a team roster of only four seniors

http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArt...=C&DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=578844&Q_SEASON=2010

2006,2007,2008 and 2009 Boise State led the WAC in total defense and scoring D. Marcel Yates the secondary coach has a good resume after coaching CBs for 3 seasons.http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArt...=C&DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=536982&Q_SEASON=2010

Most recognize the legendary Alabama but since 2000 Boise records is 111-17 for .867 (best in nation)& 63-2 at home.
Source > http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1034994

You are correct that Texans got their corner, I am hope it was the best one.

 

[WolverineFan]

I tend to view the Texans draft similar, productive, keyed on intelligence/character, athletes & played it very safely. they traded down in 2nd got nervous then traded back up. I get that kinda reflects how they play on the football field too, they'll stretch teams out between the 20's then they get tighter & tighter the closer they get to the endzone.

Coverage on Texans draft sucked making it more frustrating to get a grip on each selection (network went to commercial seemingly every Texans pick) along with very high, informed expectations from its own fan base, there is probably no way they could have lived up to any of our own mock drafts. Difference between reality & fantasy I guess

Watching the draft on TV was painful as a Texans fan. I didn't even know we traded the second time and I don't recall them ever putting up the terms for that trade. Also, Trey Wingo is an *****. He could not get it right during picks. The analysts would be talking during the pick and he'd announce it for the wrong team, etc. Really wish I had NFL Network.

 

[El Tejano]

Maybe we're still really high on Troy Nolan

Actually Rick Smith has stated that the team is still very high on Eugene Wilson and feel that Barber is going to come into his own this year. Rick Smith said that Nolan is the guy with the question marks because they can't tell how he's going to recover from the injury until they see him on the field.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

Saban is a good coach and the team did pretty well but Boise State's Petersen led the team to 14-0 and 4th place with a team roster of only four seniors

http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArt...=C&DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=578844&Q_SEASON=2010

2006,2007,2008 and 2009 Boise State led the WAC in total defense and scoring D. Marcel Yates the secondary coach has a good resume after coaching CBs for 3 seasons.http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArt...=C&DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=536982&Q_SEASON=2010

Most recognize the legendary Alabama but since 2000 Boise records is 111-17 for .867 (best in nation)& 63-2 at home.
Source > http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1034994

You are correct that Texans got their corner, I am hope it was the best one.

What would Boise do in the SEC ? That conference is so much faster than the WAC , it's not funny .

You ever noticed how many players are from the SEC . Now think how battle tested these guys are for the pros . Besides when was the last time an SEC team didn't when the championship ? Miami played the same type of football and was a NFL farm club for years .

 

[El Tejano]

Watching the draft on TV was painful as a Texans fan. I didn't even know we traded the second time and I don't recall them ever putting up the terms for that trade. Also, Trey Wingo is an *****. He could not get it right during picks. The analysts would be talking during the pick and he'd announce it for the wrong team, etc. Really wish I had NFL Network.

Don't worry coverage over there wasn't too hot if you were a Texan fan either. Everytime the Texans were about to pick they'd go to commercial and when they came back they'd talk about the previous pick, meanwhile our selection would be posted at the bottom and then the group would start talking about the next teams needs.

The first day of the draft they were irritating me because freaking Jason Lacanfora was announcing the darn pick before the comissioner would even announce the pick. They wanted to have the ground breaking news so bad.

 

[WolverineFan]

Don't worry coverage over there wasn't too hot if you were a Texan fan either. Everytime the Texans were about to pick they'd go to commercial and when they came back they'd talk about the previous pick, meanwhile our selection would be posted at the bottom and then the group would start talking about the next teams needs.

The first day of the draft they were irritating me because freaking Jason Lacanfora was announcing the darn pick before the comissioner would even announce the pick. They wanted to have the ground breaking news so bad.

Man the lack of coverage this team gets is just astounding. We get more TV time on other teams' highlight videos than we get for our own team. Ridiculous.

 

[Corrosion]

Man the lack of coverage this team gets is just astounding. We get more TV time on other teams' highlight videos than we get for our own team. Ridiculous.

This team hasnt won anything , they arent the "Sexy pick to win anything" either .... Until they WIN they wont get coverage.


Add in the fact that the Chronicle probably has the absolute worst sports coverage of any paper in a major sports market and this is what you get.

Epic Fail

 

[WolverineFan]

This team hasnt won anything , they arent the "Sexy pick to win anything" either .... Until they WIN they wont get coverage.


Add in the fact that the Chronicle probably has the absolute worst sports coverage of any paper in a major sports market and this is what you get.

Epic Fail

Lions and Browns haven't won anything either and they get plenty of coverage.

 

[beerlover]

1 20 Kareem Jackson CB Alabama
2 58 Ben Tate RB Auburn
3 81 Earl Mitchell DT Arizona
4 102 Darryl Sharpton ILB Miami (Fla.)
4 118 Garrett Graham TE Wisconsin
5 144 Sherrick McManis CB Northwestern
6 187 Shelley Smith OG Colorado State
6 197 Trindon Holliday RS LSU
7 227 Dorin Dickerson TE Pit

BOLD = Stater
RED = ROTATIONAL
SLATE GRAY = PR/INSURANCE IN CASE OF INJURY

 

[Blake]

Saban is a good coach and the team did pretty well but Boise State's Petersen led the team to 14-0 and 4th place with a team roster of only four seniors.

Wow understatement of the year. Yeah they just won the SEC Championship on their way to the National championship. I guess they did OK.

 

[beerlover]

Lions and Browns haven't won anything either and they get plenty of coverage.

Maybe they had the sexier picks, Texans picks where the least covered. Kareem Jackson never had the run up, he only came out at the last second then flew under the radar during the entire process. Ben Tate has been called the least appreciated RB in this class (sorry don't have the link), Earl who? Shaprton, Graham, McManis, Smith, not excatly household names. Holliday & Dickerson may have a bigger following?

 

[Blake]

I like to look at the CB situation like this.

Pretend the "top 3" CBs in this year's draft were the top 3 LBs in last years draft.

Aaron Curry (Joe Haden) was a lock to go near the top of the draft, and he did. Most Texans fans wanted Clay Matthews (Kyle Wilson), but he ended up falling to late in the 1st. Instead, the Texans drafted Brian Cushing (Kareem Jackson) who wasn't rated as highly by some, surprising the fans, but ultimately getting the DROY.

Obviously if we compare it to last years situation, both LBs taken after Curry ended up being stars, which seems perfectly possible here. But we took Jackson and I no longer care how good Wilson is, as long as Jackson becomes a star for the Texans.

Great post to keep things in perspective wagonhead.

 

[El Tejano]

1.Texans: Kareem Jackson 5'10 196 4.40 great within 20 yards and better not guess wrong or he will never catch up.
Badboy: Kyle Wilson 5'10" 194 4.43 bump & run and cover guy that can close with a burst.

After seeing the National Championship game again, I saw how much he did in run support but the dude was also literally in Jordan Shipley's pocket. Alot of the over throws Gilbert threw was because he had to in order to keep from Kareem deflecting the ball or intercepting it. Shipley's TDs came when Texas moved him into the slot away from Jackson.

2. Texans: Ben Tate 5'11"220 4.4 ok a strong,fast guy & we get an extra 3rd not knowing we'd give it away immediately. Boy, did that look stupid. Still, 3rd best back on my board.
Badboy: Toby Gerhart 6' 231 4.5s He is sitting right there! Dennison said both were rated even and if we could have gotten Tate and kept the 3rd, brilliant. But we didn't. So much for TG versus Jonathan Dwyer.

I see them as having the same skill set also. Are you more upset that we just didn't take Toby or mad that we traded down, got Tate and then wasted the pick we traded down for?

3.Texans: Earl Mitchell 6'3" 296 &fast. Guess we will see if he can get through the middle. This isn't Barwin speeding in from the outside. If it works, great move! If it doesn't, someone should be taken to the woodshed. Pretty risky for a 3rd.
Badboy: We had Mike Johnson, Rennie Curran (OLB) and Tony Moeaki there.
I really considered the OLB but thought TE bigger need as I don't have medical info on how our vets are doing. My Pick:Moeaki6'3" 245 great receiver, needs to work on blocking. An OD clone if you will.

I had Earl Mitchell as the 35th best player in terms of need and ability to grab him on my draft board. On my draft board he was the 8th best DT for us but only the 4th best available at that time. There's alot of comparison going on on this message board to Amobi but that's only because of size. Motorwise, this kid is ahead of Okoye. I did feel like we could've got this guy in the 4th or later tough and would've loved to taken an OL. I had C Matt Tenant penciled here but as you can see I was way off base because he went to someone in like the 5th round or something.

4.A Sharpton5'11"236 ILB to convert to Will. I really like this guy but not a need position nor BPA.
Badboy: #118 Owusu-Ansah 6'207 4.41 CB/FS/KR This was my FS and back up corner. BTW, Ed Campo of Dallas is saying he is the FS.http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/04/24/2140336/dallas-cowboys-draft-pick-from.html
Ansah also averaged 30 yards as a senior on kick returns.

You and I have the same thoughts here. I was like "pick Owusu and be done with DB for good in this draft." They pretty much said that every draft they give Marciano the chance to draft a guy for his ST. I just don't know if I do that with my 3rd rounder though. I guess they figured they could do that when they got the extra pick for trading down? Then they trade away the extra later?
4b. Garrett Graham similar to OD but in my draft we have better TE with Moeaki. I have no 4th as I did not trade.

5. Texans:McManus, I covered above.
Badboy: Rashad Jones 6'1"214 4.51 I was stunned he was here and he had a 3-4 th round range. Can play SS to back Pollard or FS. Fast, hard hitter.

Right here we are thinking the same. At this point Reshad was my best player on my board. Another post on here will show you that I wanted to get him in the 2nd. So that goes to show how much I know where a player can go. Either way, we are talking about a player that could help is in two positions. I did see some info on McManus and they say he can play FS as well and that the dude is a real leader on the football field. The fact they went with a DB kept me from questioning too much.

6a Texans: Shelley Smith a throw away pick that will not beat out any of current OGs.
Badboy: David Gettis WR 6'3" 217 pro day 40 4.39 and does not have to convert from TE. 52 receptions 3 TDs. Big guy in Red Zone who could make one of current WRs obsolete. Had him on one of my earliest mocks. *Note Jonathan Dwyer was still available and I almost went with him as I wanted one more back in TC.
6b Trindon Holliday: I almost fell out of my chair, RMartin65 pick this guy from way back when and we put him on our final mock.
Badboy:To be honest due to his small size I really looked hard for another player but this kid should be great. I hope he keeps his Blue Cross/Blue SHield premium paid up.

7.DD ok but you know who I mean. I am ok with this pick but with Gettis who is better, we could go with my guy.
Badboy: Jeff Owen DT 6'1" 304 4.94 40. 65 and Beerlover researched the heck out of this guy and he is super strong and Pepto's (stops) the runs. We had him as high as 4th and would have been a steal. I'll put him against Mitchell especially comparing where each was selected.

I was expecting to come out today bragging on how the Texans had shut up all the critics with an outstanding draft. That did not happen.

Rating- C that I meritoriously moved up to C+ for Smith accepting RMartin65's telephone call and going with his itty bitty missile, Holliday.

My thoughts in bold. Much props to you for putting who you had selected in that round rather than just saying our draft stinks. Much more to talk about than to reply with "just because they didn't select who you wanted..."

 

[steelbtexan]

The Texans scouts had Jackson > Wilson. That's all that matters. I trust them more than MB mockers.

This reminds me of the Cushing>Matthews debate. The Texans scouts did great on that pick. Although Matthews turned out to be a great player too.

I suspect that Jackson will be a day one starter and a great player. Wilson might take a little longer but he will be a great player too.

 

[El Tejano]

1 20 Kareem Jackson CB Alabama
2 58 Ben Tate RB Auburn
3 81 Earl Mitchell DT Arizona
4 102 Darryl Sharpton ILB Miami (Fla.)
4 118 Garrett Graham TE Wisconsin
5 144 Sherrick McManis CB Northwestern
6 187 Shelley Smith OG Colorado State
6 197 Trindon Holliday RS LSU
7 227 Dorin Dickerson TE Pit

BOLD = Stater
RED = ROTATIONAL
SLATE GRAY = PR/INSURANCE IN CASE OF INJURY

Don't count Garrett Graham out of beating Joel Dreesen. I consider the #2 TE position a starter since we may run some two TE sets. Graham is an every down type of TE that can both block and catch.

 

[El Tejano]

Add in the fact that the Chronicle probably has the absolute worst sports coverage of any paper in a major sports market and this is what you get.

Epic Fail

Honestly, now that you say that, I think that has more to do with it than anything. I don't live in these sates or cities but I know of The Dallas Morning News, Denver Post, New York Times, Chicago Tribune etc... because I hear their names on sports channels all the time saying that they are the ones who reported it.

We can't even get coverage on a freakin practice from the Chronicle.

 

[Blake]

Honestly, now that you say that, I think that has more to do with it than anything. I don't live in these sates or cities but I know of The Dallas Morning News, Denver Post, New York Times, Chicago Tribune etc... because I hear their names on sports channels all the time saying that they are the ones who reported it.

We can't even get coverage on a freakin practice from the Chronicle.

John McClain's idea of posting new up to date Texans information is retweeting Adam Schefter. ;P

 

[El Tejano]

I found some interesting info just now about where the lineage to drafting Kareem may have come from.

Nick Saban 1988-1989 Secondary Coach Houston Oilers
http://alabama.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Year=2009&Sport=1&Coach=1924

Frank Bush
[edit] Houston Oilers
In 1987 Bush was hired by the Oilers to be their college scout and he remained at the position until 1992 when he was promoted to linebackers coach. He served as the teams linebackers coach until 1994.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Bush

Not saying for sure but this had to help tip the scale in Kareem's favor.

 

[beerlover]

Don't count Garrett Graham out of beating Joel Dreesen. I consider the #2 TE position a starter since we may run some two TE sets. Graham is an every down type of TE that can both block and catch.

even better, meaning this draft could yield 5 starters?

I must add however that I have mixed feelings about the Graham selection with Owen Daniels remaining unsigned. So that is my problem with the pick not the player himself. I also value Joel Dreessen more, his growth from the time Owen went down to end of season was nothing short of outstanding, displayed intelligence along with ability to play the position in the NFL, consumate team player, excelled even more when not asked to handle the long snapping duties.

 

[Corrosion]

John McClain's idea of posting new up to date Texans information is retweeting Adam Schefter. and attaching a picture of Anna Megan to keep the masses interested ;P

Fixed that for you.

 

[El Tejano]

even better, meaning this draft could yield 5 starters?

I must add however that I have mixed feelings about the Graham selection with Owen Daniels remaining unsigned. So that is my problem with the pick not the player himself. I also value Joel Dreessen more, his growth from the time Owen went down to end of season was nothing short of outstanding, displayed intelligence along with ability to play the position in the NFL, consumate team player, excelled even more when not asked to handle the long snapping duties.

I don't think we worry about Graham coming here to replace Daniels. Especially when Kubiak said he talked to Daniels about Graham and Daniels had good things to say about him.

 

[ChampionTexan]

Add in the fact that the Chronicle probably has the absolute worst sports coverage of any paper in a major sports market and this is what you get.

Epic Fail

Does the Chronicle have anyone besides McClain dedicated to the Texans/NFL Football? They used to have Meghan (Megan?) Manfull, but it's been ages since I've seen anything besides McClain's coverage and the stuff from the columnists - when they decide to write about football.

 

[BigBull17]

Watching the draft on TV was painful as a Texans fan. I didn't even know we traded the second time and I don't recall them ever putting up the terms for that trade. Also, Trey Wingo is an *****. He could not get it right during picks. The analysts would be talking during the pick and he'd announce it for the wrong team, etc. Really wish I had NFL Network.

They went to commercial every time we came on the clock. EVERY SINGLE TIME! Weird.

 

[leebigeztx]

The thing is, you can never have enough good football players. I didn't get the cahnce to watch all the tapes of games as i did the past because of a 4 month old baby, but i still had a chance to do my research for the most part. I had Wilson and Jackson as the top 2 with haden as the 3rd corner and all 3 in the top 20. I had tate rated above gerhardt also. Dickerson should've been in round 2 anyway you slice it and he fell to the 7th rd. The lsu kid was a speciality pick and in the nfl, there are alot of those guy. If he can replace davis and add more in the return game so be it. The people having problems with the te's and the lb must don't value special teams. Special teams with the new rules are made for lb's and te's now. As stated earlier, i guess we will see in 3 yrs or so.

 

[WolverineFan]

1 20 Kareem Jackson CB Alabama
2 58 Ben Tate RB Auburn
3 81 Earl Mitchell DT Arizona
4 102 Darryl Sharpton ILB Miami (Fla.)
4 118 Garrett Graham TE Wisconsin
5 144 Sherrick McManis CB Northwestern
6 187 Shelley Smith OG Colorado State
6 197 Trindon Holliday RS LSU
7 227 Dorin Dickerson TE Pit

BOLD = Stater
RED = ROTATIONAL
SLATE GRAY = PR/INSURANCE IN CASE OF INJURY

Where exactly do you see Sharpton starting? WLB? I see no way he beats out Diles as a rookie.

I think Jackson starts and Tate is technically a starter. Platoon 1 of Tate and Slaton and platoon 2 of Foster and Moats.

Mitchell won't start, but will be in the rotation. It's not really important who starts at DT if you have 4 or 5 reliable guys in the rotation.

Sharpton will get special teams work but I don't see him starting as a rookie.

Graham won't start this year I don't think, but he'll have Dressen's job by next year.

McManis is depth and special teams.

Smith is depth.

Holliday will be the main return guy so technically a starter.

Dickerson probably won't play this year since he is transitioning to a new position. Will probably get looks on special teams though.

 

[beerlover]

I don't think we worry about Graham coming here to replace Daniels. Especially when Kubiak said he talked to Daniels about Graham and Daniels had good things to say about him.

not so sure about that as Owens if resigned does have trade value.

 

[WolverineFan]

They went to commercial every time we came on the clock. EVERY SINGLE TIME! Weird.

Well our coverage sucked all the way around then. No biggie, I'm used to it by now.

The only time we ever got coverage during the draft was when we took Mario and we had the nation bringing the hammer down on us then.

 

[TimeKiller]

I'm disappointed. I won't lie.

KJ is already slated to start and I wouldn't blink twice if Tate was the starting RB when the regular season begins. That's two damn fine picks in areas of critical need. Holliday should provide a spark, allow JJ to concentrate on WR and make A Davis expendable. Good pick for a 6th. Dickerson looks like a sweet project for a 7th, certainly more exciting than Alex Brink.

Everything between the first and last two picks makes me hurt. How FS is not one of the top 9 needs of this team....I'll just never understand. How another non-massive human being, gap shooter DT is above FS depth...how special teamer/backup LB is above FS....how a 5th at best corner is above FS...how a 6th TE or 7th OG....

 

[BigBull17]

Well our coverage sucked all the way around then. No biggie, I'm used to it by now.

The only time we ever got coverage during the draft was when we took Mario and we had the nation bringing the hammer down on us then.

The only thing worse was John McClains attitude towards the Ben Tate pick because Gerharts papa was an ex Oiler and he had interviews lined up. He wagged his finger and said huaranteed Gerhart, and got mad when he was wrong. That's why he and Dickie J hate the Texans.

 

[Vinnie]

not so sure about that as Owens if resigned does have trade value.

Come on man you're better then that! Makes you sound like a Chronicle article response poster.

 

[Corrosion]

Saban is a good coach and the team did pretty well but Boise State's Petersen led the team to 14-0 and 4th place with a team roster of only four seniors

http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArt...=C&DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=578844&Q_SEASON=2010

2006,2007,2008 and 2009 Boise State led the WAC in total defense and scoring D. Marcel Yates the secondary coach has a good resume after coaching CBs for 3 seasons.http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArt...=C&DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=536982&Q_SEASON=2010

Most recognize the legendary Alabama but since 2000 Boise records is 111-17 for .867 (best in nation)& 63-2 at home.
Source > http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1034994

You are correct that Texans got their corner, I am hope it was the best one.

For the record Im not saying Jackson is the better corner - just that its easy to see how the Texans justified the pick over Wilson who we both had as at least the #2 CB.

Well our coverage sucked all the way around then. No biggie, I'm used to it by now.

The only time we ever got coverage during the draft was when we took Mario and we had the nation bringing the hammer down on us then.

yeah and how did that turn out ?!

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

For the record Im not saying Jackson is the better corner - just that its easy to see how the Texans justified the pick over Wilson who we both had as at least the #2 CB.




yeah and how did that turn out ?!

Here's what's going to happen . Wilson is going to be thrown into the fire ... why ... cause their not going to throw to the other side . When Wilson plays like a rookie getting thrown at , folks will go man I'm glad we drafted Jackson .

 

[Corrosion]

Here's what's going to happen . Wilson is going to be thrown into the fire ... why ... cause their not going to throw to the other side . When Wilson plays like a rookie getting thrown at , folks will go man I'm glad we drafted Jackson .

With Antonio Cromartie and Darrelle Revis on that roster he may not even start - He'll likely be the nickle.

Think they had Pey_Me_A_Ton in mind when they made that pick ?