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Anyone still questioning Domanick Davis as our main back next year?
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Have any of yall noticed that when Davis has a good run, one of the annoucers says "great block by ____." Davis cant make things happen by himself. Franchise backs make things happen by themselves with no help. Example: Jamal Lewis today had a play where it was 3rd or 4th down with 13 yards to go. Boller was rushed and Lewis caught if for 3 yards and then broke 3 tackles to make sure he got the 1st. Davis cant put his will on defenders...AndreJ said:The run blocking is starting to come along pretty nicely and davis is gettin more patient and comfortable with it as he said in an interview earlier this week.
Getting the job done doesnt make you a franchise back. Heck, Emmitt Smith is getting the job done in Arizona but he isnt the franchise back over there. (And I hate to tell you that Smith and Davis are both averaging 3.6 yards per carry)AndreJ said:I think its pretty obvious, that he isn't a J. Lewis or Ahman Green, Duce McCallister. But how many running back in the league can 3 tackles and drag a defender on his back to carry them across the 1st down line. Sure he's not the greatest, but he has been getting the job done in the past two weeks.
And of those players i mentioned above. When was the last time one of them had 201 total yards of offense.
Fiddy said:The 201 yards Davis got were empty because the Colts gave them to him because it would help the Colts win the game.
I wish I could find that article about empty yards that John Clayton wrote on ESPN.com. I will. You can think its stupid but it worked for the Colts. They didnt want AJ/Gaff/Bradford to touch the ball so they allowed Davis to get the ball virtually every play because they knew Davis couldnt kill them and AJ could. Have any of you guys ever noticed that Davis is always open in the flat??? If defenses were really scared of him, wouldnt they tell a LB to cover him??? They dont tell LBs to cover him because they want Davis to get the ball. The passing game was shut down because the Colts focused on the WRs and didnt worry about Davis. And when Davis accounts for 50% of the offense, we lose.AndreJ said:I'm sorry but that may have been the stupidest thing i have ever heard. I dont understand how and why a team gives 201 yards to anyone to help them win a game. first its not his fault they lost the game. Carr played horrible that game and the passing game was shutdown. Not to mention our D went up against the what i recall is the 1st ranked offense in the league. If it hadn't been for Davis putting the offense on his back we would have seen antoher blowout like we did in INDY. DD accounts from damn near 50% of the Texans offense.
And if you don't mind me asking what is your definition of a franchise back?
supertankman said:Anyone still questioning Domanick Davis as our main back next year?
Bingo. An Example of empty yards: Empty Yards by John ClaytonFiddy said:I wish I could find that article about empty yards that John Clayton wrote on ESPN.com. I will.
Good night, but he doesnt have potential. Someone who has potential has top line speed or is someone who has unbelievable strength. What you see with Davis is what we are going to get for years to come if he is our franchise back...AndreJ said:Ok im just gonna stop here, its 12:16 in the morning and frankly i dont give a damn anymore i think he has a lot of potential with it only being his second year and you don't.
Glad you feel that way
Bottom line good game today, We win evrybody is happy.
See yall l8r today.
STEEL BLUE TEXANS said:DD is a good 3rd down back. Nothing more, nothing less.
aj. said:Hollings has better flat out speed than Davis
Fiddy said:Have any of yall noticed that when Davis has a good run, one of the annoucers says "great block by ____." Davis cant make things happen by himself.
I could of missed that play because I had to help my dad in the garage. But I do remember a couple of his runs where the annoucer said "great block by ___"infantrycak said:Funny that you should say that after the Chicago game--where there was a play that DD got smooth hit by two guys at the line of scrimmage due to poor blocking and made it into a 6-7 yard gain purely on individual effort. He ain't a top tier RB, but there is no need to make stuff up about him.
And PS--there is a lot of distance between pro-bowl RB and 3rd down back. DD is somewhere in between--just dumb to act like he is at either extreme.
Maybe it's just me, but he seems to pause, just for a second, and holes fill up.Wolf said:AJ is the playmaker and Davis isn't
It would be nice if davis was a step faster and maybe Santa will bring that.
Originally Posted by aj.
Hollings has better flat out speed than Davis
Hervoyel: Which means exactly nothing since Hollings speed never comes into play while he's inactive and nursing an injury. If in fact Davis is "injury plagued" (and I tend to agree that he is) then Hollings is absolutely fragile. At least he has been this season.
Fiddy said:Have any of yall noticed that when Davis has a good run, one of the annoucers says "great block by ____." Davis cant make things happen by himself. Franchise backs make things happen by themselves with no help. Example: Jamal Lewis today had a play where it was 3rd or 4th down with 13 yards to go. Boller was rushed and Lewis caught if for 3 yards and then broke 3 tackles to make sure he got the 1st. Davis cant put his will on defenders...
Did we win the game where he got 200 yards??? No. So talk about how many yards he get a game, but guess what. We LOSE the games he gets yards!!! In his 5 career high games in yards, the Texans are 1-4. What are teams measured by??? Wins. The Patriots are the 11th ranked defense in yards per game, but they are 4th in scoring defense. Therefore, the yards teams are putting up on them are empty because no one can score. Davis gets 201 yards, we only score 14 points and lose. Carr looked bad because teams werent falling for any playfake. They were covering AJ, Gaff, and Bradford and pinned their ears back and rushed Carr. Davis gets a step one them, no problem. He wont rip off the 50 yarder, so he wont kill them.Beastlyman2003 said:Domanick, over the past few games HAS been wreckin on people. hes been catchin passes for consistent 7 yard gains, and why not? I'll take a consistent 7 yard gain all day long if it gets us into position to score. And what is this **** about other coaches give him 200-yard games? They dont want to be ran all over and they DO HAVE LBs covering him most of the time. He is much faster than 260lb Linebackers, and he is going to get open in the open field if being covered by a LB. Empty yards?
Fiddy said:Did we win the game where he got 200 yards??? No. So talk about how many yards he get a game, but guess what. We LOSE the games he gets yards!!! In his 5 career high games in yards, the Texans are 1-4. What are teams measured by??? Wins.
AndreJ said:Yall make it seem like its his fault that the team loses when he has a wonderful gaame. Its a team sport for christs sake. Think about that.
I am not blaming him for the loses, but saying that the yards he gets are empty. If any other back get 201 total yards, their team will most likely win. But when Davis gets these yards, the team doesnt win. Even when bad teams RBs get 200 total yards they win, we dont.wags said:I just don't understand your logic. Your correlation between DD and our win-loss record might have merit if we were a good team. We are a bad team and we lose the majority of our games regardless of how DD plays. You can't blame DD for our record. Can the Titans pin there last two losses on Billy Volek? No. You know why? Because the Titans stink. Football is a team sport and one individual doesn't cause a win or loss.
How many receptions did Marshall Faulk have during the Rams glory days? Did they just give him these receptions because he wasn't a big play threat? With Isaac Bruce,Torry Holt and the greatest show on turf, how could Marshall Faulk be their leading receiver? How could the Rams win the Super Bowl in a year where Marshall had 80-85 receptions?
I honestly dont remember what teams did to us last year and it would be hard to judge considering all the injuries we had...HJam72 said:Here's what I don't get though, Fiddy. When DD ran so well last year were they using zone pass coverages against us so much then also? Because, if they weren't, then judging the whole thing gets more complicated.