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Man, Dunta sure has a way of getting BURNED. I can't see a situation where he signs ANYWHERE as a starter
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Someone is still going to pay him. I have changed my stance though and hope its not us. I don't think it will be. We will likely offer him a contract but it will be (better be) significantly less than what he was offered this off-season. He will then proceed to throw a hissy fit and test FA only to find it was about the market rate.
When the season ends, he might be kicking himself for not taking the offer that Rick Smith gave him. He may look very foolish if he does not get a sizable guaranteed contract in the off season.
And to think some of you thought he was the "still the best cornerback on the team".
Unbelievable.
Robinson is up for a huge award. Huge ! And it's the award for being the biggest con-man in Houston, TX. And Rick Smith deserves the award for being the biggest suucckker in Houston, TX.
problem is that he wants superstar money ..
10 and 12 yard completions are now considered getting "BURNED"?
D-Rob is no superstar, and he was crazy to turn down the contract the Texans offered him. He was nuts to hold out when they gifted him with the franchise tag. He's going to regret it, just like the Texans would have ended up regretting giving that kind of contract to him.
Ever since his injury he has sucked in run support. He's never had great ball skills, or been an amazing playmaker.
That said, people who think D-Rob has had a bad year in coverage are one of three things:
1. Clueless
2. Blind
3. Stupid
Pick one.
There are 64 starting corners in the NFL, and there are not 20 that can cover better than Robinson. Saying that he couldn't find a starting job ANYWHERE in the NFL is completely asinine.
People have clearly let their personal feelings about Robinson's offseason shenanigans cloud their judgment to the point of the absurd. He was MUCH worse in 2008. He was MUCH worse in 2007. He was MUCH worse in 2006. Etc. etc. etc. In 2007 people absolutely ADORED him, hailing him as a sure probowler. They got angry and fumed when the media didn't give him any respect. Now he is MUCH better in coverage, and mysteriously people are saying he's terrible. Hmm, I wonder what's changed.
Only in Houston could a player have a career year and be vilified for it.
Before anyone calls me a D-Rob homer, leading up to D-Rob turning down the crazy Gamble offer we made, I was one of only a few people around here who said he was not an elite corner, and never had been. Certain folks around here took great issue with my criticism, and were especially shocked that I would dare call our best corner 3rd tier.
I didn't think he was worth that level of contract then, and I wouldn't offer it to him now. He's just not that level of elite player. I would like to have a top 20 cover corner back on the team if the price is right. Anybody who thinks the defense would improve if they let the 3rd least thrown at corner in the NFL walk are fooling themselves.
10 and 12 yard completions are now considered getting "BURNED"?
D-Rob is no superstar, and he was crazy to turn down the contract the Texans offered him. He was nuts to hold out when they gifted him with the franchise tag. He's going to regret it, just like the Texans would have ended up regretting giving that kind of contract to him.
Ever since his injury he has sucked in run support. He's never had great ball skills, or been an amazing playmaker.
That said, people who think D-Rob has had a bad year in coverage are one of three things:
1. Clueless
2. Blind
3. Stupid
Pick one.
There are 64 starting corners in the NFL, and there are not 20 that can cover better than Robinson. Saying that he couldn't find a starting job ANYWHERE in the NFL is completely asinine.
People have clearly let their personal feelings about Robinson's offseason shenanigans cloud their judgment to the point of the absurd. He was MUCH worse in 2008. He was MUCH worse in 2007. He was MUCH worse in 2006. Etc. etc. etc. In 2007 people absolutely ADORED him, hailing him as a sure probowler. They got angry and fumed when the media didn't give him any respect. Now he is MUCH better in coverage, and mysteriously people are saying he's terrible. Hmm, I wonder what's changed.
Only in Houston could a player have a career year and be vilified for it.
Before anyone calls me a D-Rob homer, leading up to D-Rob turning down the crazy Gamble offer we made, I was one of only a few people around here who said he was not an elite corner, and never had been. Certain folks around here took great issue with my criticism, and were especially shocked that I would dare call our best corner 3rd tier.
I didn't think he was worth that level of contract then, and I wouldn't offer it to him now. He's just not that level of elite player. I would like to have a top 20 cover corner back on the team if the price is right. Anybody who thinks the defense would improve if they let the 3rd least thrown at corner in the NFL walk are fooling themselves.
I dunno but Bob McNair might take exception with your analysis, since maybe he thinks Rick Smith should be able to figure this out without spending 10 M bucks of his money ?Ultimatly, Rick Smith looks pretty good right now in my opinion. Had Dunta played his ass off, we'd all know that he was leaving anyway or holding the team hostage at least. Had we parted ways and Dunta played well somewhere else, we'd all be out for blood. This way, we cut ties and we can all feel good about it.
I dunno but Bob McNair might take exception with your analysis, since maybe he thinks Rick Smith should be able to figure this out without spending 10 M bucks of his money ?
Dude, you should put the crack pipe down. Week after week I watch Dunta go out there and embarrass himself and week after week I watch you come in here like his ****ing boyfriend and defend him. I'm afraid you're either watching another team play (Texans logo is a cow, just "fyi") or you're his agent or something.
curious, where are you finding those stats?
I am searching NFL.com but not having any luck
i just see the basic int/pd/ tackles stats
Define "embarrass himself".
He's 16th in the NFL in receptions allowed, and 18th in yards allowed. That is good to very good.
The post you quoted was half criticism of D-Rob, so get a grip on your BS.
Put the haterade down, and stop acting like his spurned lover.
And to think some of you thought he was the "still the best cornerback on the team".
Unbelievable.
Anybody that thought the post I quoted was even close to "half-criticism" of Dunta is either
1. Clueless
2. Blind
3. Stupid
Pick one.
10 and 12 yard completions are now considered getting "BURNED"?
D-Rob is no superstar, and he was crazy to turn down the contract the Texans offered him. He was nuts to hold out when they gifted him with the franchise tag. He's going to regret it, just like the Texans would have ended up regretting giving that kind of contract to him.
Ever since his injury he has sucked in run support. He's never had great ball skills, or been an amazing playmaker.
That said, people who think D-Rob has had a bad year in coverage are one of three things:
1. Clueless
2. Blind
3. Stupid
Pick one.
There are 64 starting corners in the NFL, and there are not 20 that can cover better than Robinson. Saying that he couldn't find a starting job ANYWHERE in the NFL is completely asinine.
People have clearly let their personal feelings about Robinson's offseason shenanigans cloud their judgment to the point of the absurd. He was MUCH worse in 2008. He was MUCH worse in 2007. He was MUCH worse in 2006. Etc. etc. etc. In 2007 people absolutely ADORED him, hailing him as a sure probowler. They got angry and fumed when the media didn't give him any respect. Now he is MUCH better in coverage, and mysteriously people are saying he's terrible. Hmm, I wonder what's changed.
Only in Houston could a player have a career year and be vilified for it.
Before anyone calls me a D-Rob homer, leading up to D-Rob turning down the crazy Gamble offer we made, I was one of only a few people around here who said he was not an elite corner, and never had been. Certain folks around here took great issue with my criticism, and were especially shocked that I would dare call our best corner 3rd tier.
I didn't think he was worth that level of contract then, and I wouldn't offer it to him now. He's just not that level of elite player. I would like to have a top 20 cover corner back on the team if the price is right. Anybody who thinks the defense would improve if they let the 3rd least thrown at corner in the NFL walk are fooling themselves.
Receptions allowed being everything right? No, not really. The guy has become a penalty factory.
We spent most of the second half watching him today asking ourselves "Who is Dunta covering anyway?" He plays so far off the receiver half the time you can't even tell what he's trying to accomplish with that mess.
"Career Year" eh? Yeah, your criticism of Dunta was epic. I don't know what I was thinking calling it all bullshit. Look man, Dunta is having a **** year not a career year. The eyes don't lie no matter how hard you try to make a case for the statistics. I'm not upset over his off-season shenanigans at all. I'm upset over his play since he rejoined the team following his off-season shenanigans.
Hell I'd give anything if he'd play like he was worth half the 9 million he's stealing right now. Not going to happen though. He's playing because he's making franchise money not because he's any better than Quin at this point. Of that I have not one doubt. A rookie CB makes the kind of mistakes Dunta does every single week and does it cheaper as well. If I were Bob McNair I'd be trying to dock Rick Smith's pay for franchising this pompous little asshole.
stats are good stuff but they're not coming close to telling the whole tale on Dunta Robinson in 2009.
Dunta has been absolute garbage this season. Anyone that thinks otherwise wouldn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. How are we supposed to take any chart with Darrell Revis as the 18th best corner seriously.
Got it. You think his stats tell the entire story. That tells me everything I need to know.
When someone who falls into the "Stupid" category calls me "Clueless" I have a hard time feeling insulted.
Got it. You don't even know what zone coverage is, and you're calling me stupid.
Stay classy Herv.
You too man. Fight the good fight.
I am confused.
Is Dunta really deserving of the contract, or not?
Oh, and maybe he just wants out of Houston. Of course, he'd be taking a big gamble by leaving this team right now. We're almost there.
Of course he wants out of Houston. That part is kind of obvious I think. I don't think he's worth what we offered him last go round and I seriously doubt he'll accept less than that next year. Plus somebody will decide that he's worth too much and pay him.
Define "embarrass himself".
He's 16th in the NFL in receptions allowed, and 18th in yards allowed. That is good to very good.
The post you quoted was half criticism of D-Rob, so get a grip on your BS.
Put the haterade down, and stop acting like his spurned lover.
sigh, stats don't tell the whole story, and Dunta is not the 18th best corner in the game and I don't need stats to tell me that.
sigh, stats don't tell the whole story, and Dunta is not the 18th best corner in the game and I don't need stats to tell me that.
10 and 12 yard completions are now considered getting "BURNED"?
D-Rob is no superstar, and he was crazy to turn down the contract the Texans offered him. He was nuts to hold out when they gifted him with the franchise tag. He's going to regret it, just like the Texans would have ended up regretting giving that kind of contract to him.
Ever since his injury he has sucked in run support. He's never had great ball skills, or been an amazing playmaker.
That said, people who think D-Rob has had a bad year in coverage are one of three things:
1. Clueless
2. Blind
3. Stupid
Pick one.
There are 64 starting corners in the NFL, and there are not 20 that can cover better than Robinson. Saying that he couldn't find a starting job ANYWHERE in the NFL is completely asinine.
People have clearly let their personal feelings about Robinson's offseason shenanigans cloud their judgment to the point of the absurd. He was MUCH worse in 2008. He was MUCH worse in 2007. He was MUCH worse in 2006. Etc. etc. etc. In 2007 people absolutely ADORED him, hailing him as a sure probowler. They got angry and fumed when the media didn't give him any respect. Now he is MUCH better in coverage, and mysteriously people are saying he's terrible. Hmm, I wonder what's changed.
Only in Houston could a player have a career year and be vilified for it.
Before anyone calls me a D-Rob homer, leading up to D-Rob turning down the crazy Gamble offer we made, I was one of only a few people around here who said he was not an elite corner, and never had been. Certain folks around here took great issue with my criticism, and were especially shocked that I would dare call our best corner 3rd tier.
I didn't think he was worth that level of contract then, and I wouldn't offer it to him now. He's just not that level of elite player. I would like to have a top 20 cover corner back on the team if the price is right. Anybody who thinks the defense would improve if they let the 3rd least thrown at corner in the NFL walk are fooling themselves.