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Shout out to Amobi for that great stop on the half of "lard and tard" lol. D was solid in spurts today
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Shout out to Amobi for that great stop on the half of "lard and tard" lol. D was solid in spurts today
I have no idea what you guys were looking at where Amobi Okoye was concerned. He was being pushed around consistently all day and when he came out and Robinson went in the interior of the line just stiffened up like nobody's business. I think Robinson should be easily starting ahead of Amobi and that if we don't see Okoye bounce back from this "sophmore slump" he's in then will be seriously talking about Okoye busting ala TJ and Babin.
Yes he had one great tackle today. The rest of the afternoon he was being pushed around like a shopping cart. If he doesn't get what he had early last season back I'm going to stop calling him "The Force" and start going with "The Farce" because he's not playing well at all.
I have no idea what you guys were looking at where Amobi Okoye was concerned. He was being pushed around consistently all day and when he came out and Robinson went in the interior of the line just stiffened up like nobody's business. I think Robinson should be easily starting ahead of Amobi and that if we don't see Okoye bounce back from this "sophmore slump" he's in then will be seriously talking about Okoye busting ala TJ and Babin.
Yes he had one great tackle today. The rest of the afternoon he was being pushed around like a shopping cart. If he doesn't get what he had early last season back I'm going to stop calling him "The Force" and start going with "The Farce" because he's not playing well at all.
I thought Okoye was awful early in the game and only flashed his ability in a couple of plays in the entire game. When Robinson came in he was disruptive from his first play and drew eventual double teams. Okoye didn't do much but he did have a pressure and a big play...otherwise he was pushed all over the place.
I thought Okoye was awful early in the game and only flashed his ability in a couple of plays in the entire game. When Robinson came in he was disruptive from his first play and drew eventual double teams. Okoye didn't do much but he did have a pressure and a big play...otherwise he was pushed all over the place.
Because of seating situation, I met Amobi's family last season. Talked to them after the game today and they said he is finally beginning to feel like he can play again. I am going to chalk this season up to a Mario rookie season injury kind of deal. He has toughed out a high ankle sprain without quitting. Now maybe the Texans should have shut him down like maybe they should have shut Mario down.
I want to see production next year though.
Robinson looks like what we thought Travis Johnson was going to be, a guy who shows both the abiloty to hold the point and be disriptive. He should getting more snaps than any other DT at the moment.
I want to see production next year though.
Okoye deserves the credit for making the play, but part of the reason he was able to make that play was the attention that Mario & Robinson were receiving.
Do you think he can be converted to to DE? He could shed 30 pounds and be even faster. It is something when DelJuan is beating out Okoye and TJ.I have no idea what you guys were looking at where Amobi Okoye was concerned. He was being pushed around consistently all day and when he came out and Robinson went in the interior of the line just stiffened up like nobody's business. I think Robinson should be easily starting ahead of Amobi and that if we don't see Okoye bounce back from this "sophmore slump" he's in then will be seriously talking about Okoye busting ala TJ and Babin.
Yes he had one great tackle today. The rest of the afternoon he was being pushed around like a shopping cart. If he doesn't get what he had early last season back I'm going to stop calling him "The Force" and start going with "The Farce" because he's not playing well at all.
Do you think he can be converted to to DE? He could shed 30 pounds and be even faster. It is something when DelJuan is beating out Okoye and TJ.
Do you think he can be converted to to DE? He could shed 30 pounds and be even faster. It is something when DelJuan is beating out Okoye and TJ.
I was hoping someone would get into Kubiak's call in show on 610 and ask him why they don't play Robinson more since he is more productive on a ton less snaps than Okoye, and why they won't give him more opportunities if they aren't going to start him over Okoye.Robinson looks like what we thought Travis Johnson was going to be, a guy who shows both the abiloty to hold the point and be disriptive. He should getting more snaps than any other DT at the moment.
I was hoping someone would get into Kubiak's call in show on 610 and ask him why they don't play Robinson more since he is more productive on a ton less snaps than Okoye, and why they won't give him more opportunities if they aren't going to start him over Okoye.
I just rewatched the game to make sure of what I saw live and he was pushed around easily, pancaked a time or two and didn't overpower anyone....he did have some speed moves that panned out but he isn't strong enough to do much more than run by guys right now...and that's not good enough to be a starting DT in the NFL. If you watch the game you will notice the difference instantly when Robinson comes in. He was disruptive and not forced out of his lane easily like Okoye was made to do....with what looked like relative ease.I can't decide if Okoye just isn't bringing "it" or he isn't being used properly. I know he's been hurt the last few weeks, but he's been silent all year. I'm not concerned with sacks. I see teams running all over the plce on us by going right up the middle. The only DT we have suited for "read and react" is Okam, and he doesn't seem to be getting it so far. The scouting reports on him seem to be accurate. Why not just start shooting our DTs a gap and letting the OL react to that? By having them read and react, we're allowing oppossong OL to step back and double team our DE's because we get no pressure up the middle. Defense is a gamble by design. We might as well improve our odds by forcing the O to stop SOMETHING as oppossed to just sitting back and stopping everything. Our blitzes are getting better, but I see O's going to longer snap counts and getting us to commit before they snap the ball.
I've watched and rewatched several games this year and see the same thing. He's a quick twitch speed rusher and it's obvious. My question is whether or not it would be beneficial to just gamble and have him hit a gap at full speed and either get in the backfield or at least occupy another blocker to free up a DE. D's gamble very single play by trying to counter whatever play the O is going to run. If we pick gaps and shoot them with DTs. we at least increase the odds our DEs face and increase the lilelyhood of a stop in the backfield by a DT.I just rewatched the game to make sure of what I saw live and he was pushed around easily, pancaked a time or two and didn't overpower anyone....he did have some speed moves that panned out but he isn't strong enough to do much more than run by guys right now...and that's not good enough to be a starting DT in the NFL. If you watch the game you will notice the difference instantly when Robinson comes in. He was disruptive and not forced out of his lane easily like Okoye was made to do....with what looked like relative ease.
I was pretty much of the same opinion. But if the coaching is that bad, how can an undrafted free agent practice squader such as DelJuan Robinson come on so strong last Sunday? He's getting the same coaching, playing in the same scheme as Okoye and Travis Johnson.the Defensive Line play has been pretty inconsistent all year but I chalk that up to poor coaching/scheme.
DelJaun has mostly been in passing situations. A;so, he might be ignoring any coaching and doing what comes natural.I was pretty much of the same opinion. But if the coaching is that bad, how can an undrafted free agent practice squader such as DelJuan Robinson come on so strong last Sunday? He's getting the same coaching, playing in the same scheme as Okoye and Travis Johnson.
Okoye reminds me of these high school basketball players who jumped straght into the NBA. Some, like Garnett, Bryant, and McGrady continue to improve and go on to be all stars. Some just never get any better, like Kwame Brown and Eddie Curry. Okoye is looking more like Kwame Brown, at this point.
Not yesterday and I have all of the last three games still on my DVR and can check but he came out in obvious passing situations and was only a rotation player Sunday. He blew up a couple of running plays (like the first play he was in) in his limited snaps.DelJaun has mostly been in passing situations. A;so, he might be ignoring any coaching and doing what comes natural.
I didn't have as much time to notice. I was in the stands screaming my heart out. I was going off of when I heard his name called. Honestly, I think the tacks were in pass mode for most of the game. They thought pur secondary sucked almost as bad as our pass rush.Not yesterday and I have all of the last three games still on my DVR and can check but he came out in obvious passing situations and was only a rotation player Sunday. He blew up a couple of running plays (like the first play he was in) in his limited snaps.
I was at the game too...getting on peoples nerves texting them about how much Okoye was getting manhandled. I'm glad he made a few plays at the end of the game but that didn't change his ugly overall game in my eyes....I just had to re-watch it to confirm what I think I saw.I didn't have as much time to notice. I was in the stands screaming my heart out. I was going off of when I heard his name called. Honestly, I think the tacks were in pass mode for most of the game. They thought pur secondary sucked almost as bad as our pass rush.
LOL. I was texting, too. Just a different subject. I think Okoye is being used poorly. I think he would be an excellent gap shooter and make his moves in the backfield. That, by itself, would collapse the pocket and make the QB move. The guys is "dash" fast for a DL. It would make teams account for more than Mario.I was at the game too...getting on peoples nerves texting them about how much Okoye was getting manhandled. I'm glad he made a few plays at the end of the game but that didn't change his ugly overall game in my eyes....I just had to re-watch it to confirm what I think I saw.
In the upset of the Titans on Sunday, the interior lineman made four tackles, three of them for a loss. The Texans hit Titans ball carriers for a loss seven times.
DelJuan Robinson was an undrafted free agent in 2007 out of Mississippi. He spent the bulk of his first year on the practice squad, before he was elevated to the roster for the final game. He was an inactive.
Now he's telling reporters in Houston he's staying in No. 66 -- hardly a glamour number for a D-lineman -- so he doesn't forget how he got where he is.
"DelJuan doesn't talk much," coach Gary Kubiak said. "So, evidently you got a lot more out of him than we do. But, no, he's a young kid with a lot of ability. I remember [former Mississippi State head coach] Jackie Sherrill telling me when he came out, 'You give this guy a chance, he's going to make it in your league.' So, that's where I kind of first found out about him."
"But, he's worked extremely hard for [defensive line coach] Jethro [Franklin] and [senior defensive assistant] Frank [Bush]. He's had his spots where he's done some good things, but I think [Sunday] was obviously a big bright spot in his young career so far to step up and play the way he did. He's our defensive player of the game. He played extremely well."
I have no idea what you guys were looking at where Amobi Okoye was concerned. He was being pushed around consistently all day and when he came out and Robinson went in the interior of the line just stiffened up like nobody's business. I think Robinson should be easily starting ahead of Amobi and that if we don't see Okoye bounce back from this "sophmore slump" he's in then will be seriously talking about Okoye busting ala TJ and Babin.
Yes he had one great tackle today. The rest of the afternoon he was being pushed around like a shopping cart. If he doesn't get what he had early last season back I'm going to stop calling him "The Force" and start going with "The Farce" because he's not playing well at all.
Okoye was drafted to be an interior pass rusher. His game is suited around
quickness off the line. However, in this current scheme, his being asked to
hold the point of the attack. When the Texans get their "Haynesworth"
DT, Okoye's game will be on full display, because he won't have to occupy
blockers on every snap.
ok, three nice plays and 40 plays where he was dominated, and if you don't believe me, watch the game again and only pay attention to #91...not a good ratio pards. Even David Carr managed to produce 3 plays a game.Actually he had three great plays....don't look up the stat totals though. Never let the facts get in the way of a good foot washing. I posted last week he needs to find a half second or a half of a foot somewhere next off season. Or there won't be a fourth season. So just what is that sack total for Omboi this season ?