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2019 Texans free agency
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Penn was moved to RT 2018 in hopes of his performance improving from his drop off in 2017 (the season following his Lisfranc fracture)....................His Lisfranc was on the right side, and a LT must be able to forcefully push off of his right foot in order to securely cover the outside. As with Schaub, a Lisfranc fracture is a progressively degenerative injury, and in 2018, it not unexpectedly even significantly negatively affected his play on the right side.............the OT position requires 2 good feet.
JACKSONVILLE – The Jaguars addressed the offensive line Saturday.
They did so with a former first-round draft selection with extensive NFL starting experience.
Cedric Ogbuehi, the 21st overall selection in the 2015 NFL by the Cincinnati Bengals, signed with the Jaguars as an unrestricted free agent. The team announced the signing shortly after he signed Saturday morning.
Ogbuehi, who played collegiately at Texas A&M, started 25 of 35 games for the Bengals from 2015-2018. He entered the NFL rehabilitating a torn anterior cruciate ligament, missing the first 11 games of his rookie season.
He started 12 games at right tackle in 2016 and 13 games at left tackle before playing two this past season with no starts.
The Jaguars currently have eight offensive linemen on the roster, including starting left tackle Cam Robinson, starting left guard Andrew Norwell, starting center Brandon Linder, starting right guard A.J. Cann and 2018 fourth-round draft selection/right tackle Will Richardson.
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https://www.jaguars.com/news/jaguars-sign-ot-ogbuehi
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THis FA looks like somebody we'd be interested in atleast talkin with, but I dunno ?
One explanation is that Gaine is going to depend entirely on this years Draft for help @ OT by taking drafting a minimum of 2 tackles ?
vtech9
All Pro
hmmm....12 starts at RT in 2016, 13 starts at LT in 2017, but no starts in 2018, and only played in two games? Was he hurt last year?
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
In the last 2 years, Ogbuehi has proved himself to be a bust...........at LT and RT. The only reason he had play time in 2017 was because, the Bengals OL was decimated with injuries. Last year, he was considered to be so bad that he was a "healthy scratch" for all but 2 games...........and he was a backup in both of those games.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Albert BreerVerified account@AlbertBreer 5h5 hours ago
From this morning's cap report, teams with the most space ...
1) Colts $77.07M
2) Texans $46.94M \
3) 49ers $37.18M
4) Browns $35.60M
5) Jets $35.46M
6) Dolphins $33.36M
7) Bills $33.13M
8) Raiders $32.35M
9) Titans $31.464M
10) Lions $29.45M
11) Eagles $28.72M
12) Bengals $25.11M
From this morning's cap report, teams with the most space ...
1) Colts $77.07M
2) Texans $46.94M \
3) 49ers $37.18M
4) Browns $35.60M
5) Jets $35.46M
6) Dolphins $33.36M
7) Bills $33.13M
8) Raiders $32.35M
9) Titans $31.464M
10) Lions $29.45M
11) Eagles $28.72M
12) Bengals $25.11M
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
That Colts figure is so much higher than the field, it really makes you wonder.
They don't have any big contracts other than Luck
It most certainly has worked....for other teams...one reason I'm being patient with Gaine. He had an excellent draft in 2018 and appears to have a good eye for talent.
"Winning" in FA does not, in any way, shape or form, guarantee winning during the regular season. In fact, I'd say it usually blows up in a teams face more often than not.
Who, other than you, is saying the Texans are in cap hell? Not spending big $$$ on FA is not implying the team is in cap hell. It implies that the Texans didn't value a player in FA as much as another team did. No disrespect, but I'll take Gaine and his scouting dept.'s opinion over a MB and/or some talking heads opinion. Gaine earned that respect in the 2018 draft.
Why 2018’s Power Teams Are Sitting Out 2019 Free Agency
https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/18/free-agency-spending-cowboys-kyler-murray-tyreek-hill
The Cowboys weren’t in a position to go hog wild last week anyway—as of Sunday morning, they sat with $24.3 million in cap space and cadre of young stars to lock up. But even if their situation were different, and they did have a little more breathing room to spend, chances are they’d still have sat out all the craziness.
It is, quite honestly, what the Jones family has learned, through success and failure, about running a team in the NFL’s salary cap era, now in its 26th year.
“The biggest thing is just that free agency, I just don’t think you can make a living there,” Dallas COO Stephen Jones said over the phone around lunchtime on Sunday. “That’s what we’ve always said. I think you’re overpaying in free agency most of the time. [Free agents] are overvalued, because you’re competing in a market where you’ve got teams that don’t have as many players they have to spend on, have to use cap space on.
“And the other thing is, I don’t think you’re ever one player away. It’s a building process. You’ve got to have some really good quarterbacking to win championships, but you’ve got to put a good team around him. That whole theory that you’re one player away, it’s one that we don’t buy into like you might’ve in the past.”
Here’s the genesis of my conversation with Jones and a handful of other teams over the weekend: I spent some time looking at which teams have and haven’t spent since the market opened in earnest last Monday (and earlier than that on street free agents). What I found was staggering. And it’s so simple that you can really explain it in five words.
Most good teams didn’t spend. And here’s proof, using Spotrac’s offseason spending tracker for 2019 as our guide:
• Five of the six lightest-spending teams made the playoffs last year, and two of the three lightest spenders played in the Super Bowl. Ten of the 12 playoffs teams from last year are in the bottom 14 in spending thus far. And two of the four in that cluster that didn’t make the playoffs (Atlanta, Carolina) have been in the Super Bowl and made the playoffs multiple times over the last four years.
• That leaves two of the 18 heaviest spenders that made the playoffs. One was eighth (Philly), the other was 12th (Baltimore).
• It’s not unusual that it’d skew this way—good teams don’t spend because they’ve already paid a lot of their own guys and likely don’t feel as desperate. But a quick look at the recent past shows that this year the divide between the habits of the haves and have-nots was much more pronounced.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/18/free-agency-spending-cowboys-kyler-murray-tyreek-hill
The Cowboys weren’t in a position to go hog wild last week anyway—as of Sunday morning, they sat with $24.3 million in cap space and cadre of young stars to lock up. But even if their situation were different, and they did have a little more breathing room to spend, chances are they’d still have sat out all the craziness.
It is, quite honestly, what the Jones family has learned, through success and failure, about running a team in the NFL’s salary cap era, now in its 26th year.
“The biggest thing is just that free agency, I just don’t think you can make a living there,” Dallas COO Stephen Jones said over the phone around lunchtime on Sunday. “That’s what we’ve always said. I think you’re overpaying in free agency most of the time. [Free agents] are overvalued, because you’re competing in a market where you’ve got teams that don’t have as many players they have to spend on, have to use cap space on.
“And the other thing is, I don’t think you’re ever one player away. It’s a building process. You’ve got to have some really good quarterbacking to win championships, but you’ve got to put a good team around him. That whole theory that you’re one player away, it’s one that we don’t buy into like you might’ve in the past.”
Here’s the genesis of my conversation with Jones and a handful of other teams over the weekend: I spent some time looking at which teams have and haven’t spent since the market opened in earnest last Monday (and earlier than that on street free agents). What I found was staggering. And it’s so simple that you can really explain it in five words.
Most good teams didn’t spend. And here’s proof, using Spotrac’s offseason spending tracker for 2019 as our guide:
• Five of the six lightest-spending teams made the playoffs last year, and two of the three lightest spenders played in the Super Bowl. Ten of the 12 playoffs teams from last year are in the bottom 14 in spending thus far. And two of the four in that cluster that didn’t make the playoffs (Atlanta, Carolina) have been in the Super Bowl and made the playoffs multiple times over the last four years.
• That leaves two of the 18 heaviest spenders that made the playoffs. One was eighth (Philly), the other was 12th (Baltimore).
• It’s not unusual that it’d skew this way—good teams don’t spend because they’ve already paid a lot of their own guys and likely don’t feel as desperate. But a quick look at the recent past shows that this year the divide between the habits of the haves and have-nots was much more pronounced.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Field YatesVerified account@FieldYates
As Week 2 of free agency begins, some notable players available:
*TE Jared Cook
* OLB Justin Houston
* DT Ndamukong Suh
* DE Ziggy Ansah
* K Stephen Gostkowski
* CB Darqueze Dennard
* WR Randall Cobb
* LB Clay Matthews
* LB Jamie Collins
* DT Darius Philon
* DT Cory Liuget
4:20 AM - 18 Mar 2019
As Week 2 of free agency begins, some notable players available:
*TE Jared Cook
* OLB Justin Houston
* DT Ndamukong Suh
* DE Ziggy Ansah
* K Stephen Gostkowski
* CB Darqueze Dennard
* WR Randall Cobb
* LB Clay Matthews
* LB Jamie Collins
* DT Darius Philon
* DT Cory Liuget
4:20 AM - 18 Mar 2019
michaelm
vox nihili
My prediction is that Clowney plays under the franchise tag this year, but I wouldn't be adverse to trading him if the value is right, moving Mercilus into his spot and signing Suh.
I would be very happy with the front seven in that scenario
Looks like perhaps Gaine might avoid completely signing any journeyman OTs, injured or healthy.
They are gonna keep both Davenport & Henderson so they will draft two tackles in the first 3 rounds and you know they wouldn't cut either of those
rookies drafted that high. So we got Davenport & Henderson & two rookies as the OTs in this years 53 squad.
Hence probably no old geezers at OT for GM Gaine this year unless they carry 5 tackles and/or cut Davenport or Henderson.
That's his plan: dunno if it' a good one or not but we shall see ?
They are gonna keep both Davenport & Henderson so they will draft two tackles in the first 3 rounds and you know they wouldn't cut either of those
rookies drafted that high. So we got Davenport & Henderson & two rookies as the OTs in this years 53 squad.
Hence probably no old geezers at OT for GM Gaine this year unless they carry 5 tackles and/or cut Davenport or Henderson.
That's his plan: dunno if it' a good one or not but we shall see ?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Exactly why I don’t mind trading Clowney. The Texans have a track record of success developing front 7 defenders.
We sucked at QB so we traded two firsts for DW4. Our OL is weak and we have not had a track record of success developing players at that position under OB.
Spend the money where your coaching is weak. Gotta pay to cover up your weaknesses. And get value at your strengths.
zshawn10
All Pro
Darren fells is a TE who can block and play offensive line?
https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1107636457668259840
https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1107636457668259840
Texazan
Our HOF 34
Not "Texans worthy"!
The #Texans are hoping for an upgrade at backup QB, and former #Raiders QB AJ McCarron is set to fly there today for a visit, source said. With starting experience, he could provide valuable insurance for starter Deshaun Watson.
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From your pff link I found
From your pff link I found
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-2019-nfl-free-agency-profile-jordan-mills
Jadmakaveli
Veteran
Wonder if we get outbid for Penn.
Who in the last 5 yrs has it worked for other than the Pats and even they signed Gordon last yr. Look at the teams that have made the AFCCG/NFCCG games and how those teams were built. You're right winning FA doesn't mean you win on the field. Not participating or making Bradley F'n Roby your marquee FA signing on a 1 yr deal no less should tell you that you can lose on the field by either 1. Not choosing to participate in FA 2. Doing what the Texans did this yr in FA. Particularly when you see what your competitors are doing.
TheKDog for 1.
zshawn10
All Pro
for realz?
They will
For the right price I’ll take him just for his leadership and knowledge of the chiefs offense.
I'm on board with this.
Gaine is reching deep into the bagain bin this morning.
Cheapass franchise.
Jordan Mills LMAO
Seems like a reasonable plan to me.
Donald Penn
Texans have some interest in former Raiders tackle Donald Penn, according to sources
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1107651451688546306
Texans have some interest in former Raiders tackle Donald Penn, according to sources
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1107651451688546306
zshawn10
All Pro
From the dude at clutchfans
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/official-texans-offseason.295544/page-109
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/official-texans-offseason.295544/page-109
Ever heard of explore all options?
I'm in a fixed it for ya mood this morning ( and getting (am?) drumk?
So, he's a perfect fit for the Texans?
Freakin sad.
Sign him, bring him in and draft a guy. Start Penn and let him play so the new guy can learn under Penn until as CnD has said, Penn gets hurt again or Penn's play suffers because of the Lisfranc.
Geez this isn't brain surgery.
Davenport shouldn't be blocking any OL help. If he is then everybody in the Texans org should be fired.
srrono
All Pro
I dont understand Davenport was a 4th round pick. It's not like he was the 2nd pick overall in the draft. The coach has to make him earn the starting job. When you just give him the starting role regardless there is no motivation to work hard and improve.
Plus he sucks and his biggest weakness is athletic ability. I dont think he's got the athletic ability to improve much more than he already has.
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meh, it's a MB, probably not as good as this one. His opinion means squat... unless it'a also yours. And opinions all smell the same
dream_team
Hall of Fame
NE is offering a starting position at OT? That’s hard to believe.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
I doubt it is about Davenport. Instead, I think their reluctance (if this story is accurate) to sign Penn and promise him a starting gig is about the likelihood they will draft an OT in the 1st or 2nd round.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I wanted him when he was available last offseason. Good blocking TEs do not grow on trees and he is one of the best in the league.