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FIRE O'BRIEN NOW!!!
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OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
It's all on me.....I'll take the blame for this loss.
He is in the 1st year of a four year contract extension that runs through the 2022 season coming off an 11 win season.
BOB is here for awhile...now individual fans can do as they will. The Texans have made their bed with BoGaine
BOBdaFRAUD
Waterboy
Told ya Gaine! You missed out on a great opportunity when you did not fire this guy after the debacle at Lucas Oil.
This guy was not only out schemed by a first year coach. He had better talent at EVERY POSITION and we got beat bad.
This guy was not only out schemed by a first year coach. He had better talent at EVERY POSITION and we got beat bad.
BOBdaFRAUD
Waterboy
Now 2019 and we got a brutal schedule.......... this guys suppose to lead us?
BOB suddenly gonna innovate his offense? He has brought the same crap the last 4-5 years. His gonna retreat even further into his shell cause these are good coaches coming the first 7 weeks.
BOB suddenly gonna innovate his offense? He has brought the same crap the last 4-5 years. His gonna retreat even further into his shell cause these are good coaches coming the first 7 weeks.
I re-watched that playoff loss this past weekend and had forgotten how thoroughly the Colts whipped the Texans.
They lost the playoff game and the game before that at NRG. They won at Lucas Oil.
Better talent at every position? LMAO.
The talent has to be upgraded.
Especially at the play-calling position.
Hard to call plays with this OL and Watson throwing to the likes of V.Smith/Carter and Blue at RB.
Porky
Hall of Fame
BOB is the reason I'm only mildly enthused about this draft. They could draft the second coming of Mike Munchak in round 1 and Bruce Matthews in round 2, and it won't matter because our coaches suck, the play-calling/scheme is terrible, and they are not able to max out the talent that is on-hand. Adding new talent won't help that situation one bit.
I still remember what Bum Phillips said about the great Don Shula, in his Texas best drawl. He can take his'in, and beat you'rin, and he can take your'in and beat his'in. BOB is the reverse side of that analogy.
I think coaching matters in the NFL, arguably more than any other sport. Until BOB either wakes the hell up and becomes a good coach, or he's finally left behind in the dust, it's all just like spinning wheels on quicksand.
I still remember what Bum Phillips said about the great Don Shula, in his Texas best drawl. He can take his'in, and beat you'rin, and he can take your'in and beat his'in. BOB is the reverse side of that analogy.
I think coaching matters in the NFL, arguably more than any other sport. Until BOB either wakes the hell up and becomes a good coach, or he's finally left behind in the dust, it's all just like spinning wheels on quicksand.
Texansballer74
The Marine
And will continue to until the OL gets fixed
Who is all of this great talent on hand.
With the lack of talent available on this team I think BOB did a great job.
I guess you consider Blue/Carter/V.Smith not to mention the subpar talent on the OL to be much better than I do.
By the end of last year the offense was basically Watson/Hopkins and a bunch of journeymen at best.
I have no complaints about his offense with a healthy Watson, Hopkins, Fuller, & Keke.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
I put happy stuff in my Pax, it doesn't help when the subject is OB though. I've seen enough of him and until he proves otherwise, he's just a crappy coach with a good gig.
Have you considered murderers & rapists?
I've come to believe if the new ownership would allow a few degenerates, even BO'b can win a Super Bowl or two.
HaveMercy
Passing Through
Since he's not going anywhere for now, we may as well pull for him. It surely beats being unhappy. I don't know about your life, but mine is too short to let football steal my joy.
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Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Football is simply entertainment to me, like movies and TV. The difference being I won't watch what I consider bad TV shows, but I will watch the Texans no matter now bad they are.
I don't make a habit out of making sense anyway.
So our main issue is lack of depth, not play calling/coaching....??
The Texans won because Frank Reich had a rookie HC brain fart.
I don’t love BOB, however in the playoff game against the Colts DHop played with a grade 3 AC strain, couldn’t shake hands or take his shirt off after the game
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...nt-injury-in-shoulder-in-texans-loss-to-colts
We scored 34 and 21 in the other 2 games against the colts. If we want to talk coaching against the Colts, I have a much bigger issue with RAC then BOB. At some point you have to figure out how to at least slow TY Hilton down.
As far as the offense being shut down all the time, that doesn’t happen when Watson is on the field. Teams do have bad games at times, see our playoff game against the Colts. Everyone was lauding Reich and the Colts by the end of the season yet they lost 6-0 against the Jags late in the season
For the season we finished 11th in the league in scoring, and that was with atrocious blocking. If we can get to average I think we can do some damage
He went for the win, which I like.
He didn't think his defense could stop the Texans offense (The offense some on here constantly complain about) and Reich had a hot offense so he went for it. It didn't work out but I like the aggressiveness.
austins23
Hall of Fame
This coach wouldn't know what to do with a Tight End if it came up and slapped him across the face............
Granted, he was using them mostly as extra OT's, but he still doesn't know how to game plan a TE to take advantage of a defensive mismatch when it's there.
HaveMercy
Passing Through
The new OC, Tim Kelly, has some background with tight ends. My guess is he'll want to use our tight ends more than in the past...but, as you intimate, will be constrained by the need to use them to block.
He did with Gronk and the Pats
Yep,
11th in the league in scoring with Carter/V.Smith/Blue playing significant roles.
If they can turn 20% of their field goals in to TD's the offense will be a top offense and it can be done with talent added to the OL and a healthy Fuller.
Watson was healthy all year and they still struggled to get over 20 points several games.
By offensive points per game they were 15th and by offensive TDs they were 20th despite being #1 in field position.
It was barely an improvement over the osweiler year which is sad. The league has just gotten more offense friendly too
austins23
Hall of Fame
You mean Brady did, right!?
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Except the talk afterwards was that they thought tying was worse than losing. That’s pretty dumb thinking. And in the end, not that it mattered because they beat the Texans in a playoff game anyway, it cost them the chance to win the division and play that game at home.
Going for it is one thing, paving the way for your opponent to steal the game is another.
If the OL gets fixed then I think you will see the TE's incorporated into the offense alot more.
I dont think fans truly realize how bad the OL is.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Fixed it for you...
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that the Oline is bad. Lots of teams have average to below average and even bad Olines but somehow manage to have an offense that doesn't look like the plays were drawn up in the dirt in the huddle. He (coaching staff) has got to get the creative juices flowing and get this offense going consistently. Talking in circles, that all comes back to the Oline, yes. But coaching (good coaching) can overcome lots of that.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
There's taking a risk, which I'm fine with, and there's being stupid. Saints starting the 2nd half with an onsides kick in the Super Bowl was a good calculated risk to take. If it doesn't work, you're not necessarily giving the game away. Going for it on 4th down on your own side of the field with 27 seconds left and making it still doesn't guarantee you a win, but miss it and there's a very high chance you give the game away. That was a stupid risk to take, especially with their reasoning for doing so, and it cost them a division title.
Like I said, it ended up not mattering 'cause the Texans weren't beating the Colts no matter where they played.
badboy
Hall of Fame
New to Texans Darren Fells is a solid pass blocker and can catch https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/19/te-darren-fells-texans-pass-protection/
Jordan Thomas should improve his blocking while Watson passes more to Jordin Akins (3rd rounder 2018), If Fuller and Keekee remain healthy I don't see offense going much to TEs.
Ahhh... Frank Reich. Yes. Now there's a coach who knows to use an extra lineman to protect your QB. Even though his line is littered with 1st & 2nd rounders.
Genius. I wonder where he got that idea from.
I don't think fans know how stubborn our HC is. We lose Fuller, we lose Coutee, we lose Thomas, we lose Carter... we're hurting for receivers.
Hey, let's take our two TEs who've been here since training camp. Instead of putting a 6th lineman in to block, he takes a capable receiver off the board.
He has no faith in the 6th OL'man so he uses rookie Te's that can't block... brilliance
The colts as an example of how the "fix" the OL is a funny example. It took 3 1st rounders spaced over 7 seasons and their now 30-year-old QB in the career ICU before getting that line together...and yes they did get the job, but it was hardly some sort immediate turnaround. We know if it takes that long plenty of heads will explode long before then,
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
But that's the kind of foresight the Texans have just never had throughout their history. OB is starting his 6th season. By that Colts 7 year example (and we know it can done much sooner than that), it all should be coming together up front. Instead, we're worse off at OL than we've ever been. So give them 6 more years?
So in the last 7 years, which of our first round picks should we have not taken & who should we have taken?
Yes, over the last 5 years, pretty much everything that could have gone wrong in terms of OL players and development has gone wrong.
We know that 2017 and 2018 were nil for taking any 1st round OLmen...see getting Watson and won't attempt to try to reconstruct the needs etc for anything prior to that. in order for the OL to be fixed in a shorter time frame, the Texans can't wait to draft a bunch of 1st rounders and we have seen how one or two premium player free agency goes. Honestly, we hope for Texans do well exactly one of the key things they did poorly to get in this mess...identify, develop and coach non-premium pick players to play above their expectation.
If we wait to get enough premium pick talent, yes we are looking at 3-5 years with a real chance that having to overdraft the OL could lead to lack of premium talent somewhere else.
You'd like to be in GM Gaines position and take lots of risks with the McNairs fortune wouldn't you ?
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