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Who would be your #1 choice?
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The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I'm going to wait until everyone's been tested.
Right now, I'm leaning Watkins.
Right now, I'm leaning Watkins.
nero THE zero
All Pro
Extremely tough decision.
I have no strong conviction, but I think Clowney is simply more of a "sure thing" than the QB's.
I was extremely close to going Watkins, but considering the depth of the WR class in this draft and the state of the Texans WR position compared to other positions I couldn't justify it at 1.01.
I have no strong conviction, but I think Clowney is simply more of a "sure thing" than the QB's.
I was extremely close to going Watkins, but considering the depth of the WR class in this draft and the state of the Texans WR position compared to other positions I couldn't justify it at 1.01.
Lord Bills
Destruction
Manziel.
We need a quarterback.
We need a playmaker.
We have trouble scoring.
We need that star power in the qb position (yes plenty of people have complained we dont have a flashy quarterback, always complaining about the lack of texans coverage on national stage)
Johnny Football addresses all those issues in spades.
Glad this was a public poll.
We need a quarterback.
We need a playmaker.
We have trouble scoring.
We need that star power in the qb position (yes plenty of people have complained we dont have a flashy quarterback, always complaining about the lack of texans coverage on national stage)
Johnny Football addresses all those issues in spades.
Glad this was a public poll.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
I'm starting lean that way too, but it just feels wrong considering our need at QB.
Watkins is the only guy that doesn't have any questions marks for me.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Exactly.
Robinson is pushing him, though.
Clowney is just so damned risky and I've yet to be convinced by any of the QBs.
jradMIT
Veteran
When all is said and done, we need a qb, and Bridgewater can come in day 1 and make this team competitive. He is pretty much the consensus NFL ready guy. His game directly translates to the NFL. He excel at the mental aspects of the game on and off the field. Pocket passer with athletic ability to throw on the run with excellent accuracy. He has a great track record and has gotten better each year. I have serious questions about Manziel's abilities translating to the NFL without getting him hurt. Bortles I like but I think he is still a little raw and still needs some progression. In the end Bridgewater has the lowest floor and nearly the same ceiling IMHO of the other three. I am intrigued by Watkins but I am not so sure you can pass on Bridgewater and his consistency, and expect to make up for it with a later pick.
I voted Manziel.
It's still too early to say, I'm 99% sure the Texans won't do it. I like Watkins better. I like Robinson, Matthews, Mack, Mosley, Evans, Tuitt, Lewan..... all better than I like Manziel.
He's too small, we've only got 2 years of data, he's way to cavalier with the ball & Mike Evans is one helluva WR.
As far as QBs go... I like Aj McCarron the most. He's got everything I'm looking for in a QB, & any coach worth his salt should be able to build a championship team with him.
But my gut tells me Manziel is going to be special. I don't know if that's, "Lombaries in our future" special, or "It can't be the QB so we'll fix everything else for 7 years." special.
It's still too early to say, I'm 99% sure the Texans won't do it. I like Watkins better. I like Robinson, Matthews, Mack, Mosley, Evans, Tuitt, Lewan..... all better than I like Manziel.
He's too small, we've only got 2 years of data, he's way to cavalier with the ball & Mike Evans is one helluva WR.
As far as QBs go... I like Aj McCarron the most. He's got everything I'm looking for in a QB, & any coach worth his salt should be able to build a championship team with him.
But my gut tells me Manziel is going to be special. I don't know if that's, "Lombaries in our future" special, or "It can't be the QB so we'll fix everything else for 7 years." special.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
I went with Bridgewater because I think his game has the least holes in it. He's the best passer of the three, he seems to have it between the ears, and seems to be the kind of QB you would preferably trust with the keys to the franchise of any QB prospect this year.
Clowney reminds me of Mario Williams 2.0. Kid has ALL the tools to dominate the game...when he decides to show.
I will say this one thing about Manziel: I do like his competitive fire. However, I have serious concerns about his coachability, his commitment to the position, focus, and how well his game will translate to the NFL.
Bortles, physically he looks the part, but does he have the arm and how raw is he?
Posted in another thread, an AJ, Hopkins, and Watkins trio at WR would terrorize defenses, but....who throws them the ball?
Clowney reminds me of Mario Williams 2.0. Kid has ALL the tools to dominate the game...when he decides to show.
I will say this one thing about Manziel: I do like his competitive fire. However, I have serious concerns about his coachability, his commitment to the position, focus, and how well his game will translate to the NFL.
Bortles, physically he looks the part, but does he have the arm and how raw is he?
Posted in another thread, an AJ, Hopkins, and Watkins trio at WR would terrorize defenses, but....who throws them the ball?
I voted Manziel, but I'd be happy with Bridgewater too. Can't believe I'm saying this because I've been killing the guy, but I wouldn't break my phone if we drafted Bortles either. I'm still not 100% sold, but he does have a lot of tools to work with. I trust O'Brien to pick the right guy he feels like can operate this offense effectively.
AngryNateFTW
Veteran
Voted Mack but had a hard time between Matthews, Watkins, and Robinson.
Really like Manziel, and Bridgewater but something is keeping me from taking either one.
If you had asked who probably WILL be the #1, sadly, i'm saying Bortles.
Really like Manziel, and Bridgewater but something is keeping me from taking either one.
If you had asked who probably WILL be the #1, sadly, i'm saying Bortles.
Number19
Hall of Fame
I'm voting Manziel, for several reasons either not mentioned previously, or not widely discussed.
1) Manziel will bring excitement to the Texans games. For many here on the forum, talk is about "franchise" QB who can take us to the Super Bowl. For me, it is as much about, if not more so, making the team an exciting team to watch, win or lose, but always competitive.
2) OB has said he is about taking the talent available and molding a team around that talent. Combined with #1 above, I'm hoping OB can take the innate talent that Manziel has and build a team around his strengths. Remember that Manziel is only a two year college player and is still developing his skills and his potential. Manziel was not asked to develop a pro style of play at A&M, but has the burning desire and drive to excel. He will take to OB's coaching like a fish to water. The results will be exciting to watch.
And, finally, 3) I think Keenum will make the team and will be coached up by OB. Manziel and Keenum are similar in temperament and in style of play. The two will complement each other and if need be, Case will be capable of coming in without the offense missing a beat.
1) Manziel will bring excitement to the Texans games. For many here on the forum, talk is about "franchise" QB who can take us to the Super Bowl. For me, it is as much about, if not more so, making the team an exciting team to watch, win or lose, but always competitive.
2) OB has said he is about taking the talent available and molding a team around that talent. Combined with #1 above, I'm hoping OB can take the innate talent that Manziel has and build a team around his strengths. Remember that Manziel is only a two year college player and is still developing his skills and his potential. Manziel was not asked to develop a pro style of play at A&M, but has the burning desire and drive to excel. He will take to OB's coaching like a fish to water. The results will be exciting to watch.
And, finally, 3) I think Keenum will make the team and will be coached up by OB. Manziel and Keenum are similar in temperament and in style of play. The two will complement each other and if need be, Case will be capable of coming in without the offense missing a beat.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
McCarron, Mettenberger, Garoppolo, Thomas... Keenum...
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
So true. I can't give my opinion on this right now, it's damned difficult.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I went ahead and voted for Watkins even though I'd have preferred to see the LBs before I made my final choice.
But it was tough between Watkins and Robinson. I finally went Watkins because I think he's going to be the best player coming out of this draft. I think he's got a lot less risk than anyone. Even though it's not a position of need, Watkins is a sure-fire replacement for AJ when he retires.
Normally, I'd go with Robinson because I believe in building up the trenches and having a line of Brown - Quess - Myers - Brooks - Robinson would be a pretty awesome line.
If Bridgewater slips like Aaron Rodgers did, I wouldn't mind trading back up into the first to nab him. Other than that, we'll have to look for our QB later and hope that TKyss is right about there not being a difference in the first 5-7 QBs in this draft.
But it was tough between Watkins and Robinson. I finally went Watkins because I think he's going to be the best player coming out of this draft. I think he's got a lot less risk than anyone. Even though it's not a position of need, Watkins is a sure-fire replacement for AJ when he retires.
Normally, I'd go with Robinson because I believe in building up the trenches and having a line of Brown - Quess - Myers - Brooks - Robinson would be a pretty awesome line.
If Bridgewater slips like Aaron Rodgers did, I wouldn't mind trading back up into the first to nab him. Other than that, we'll have to look for our QB later and hope that TKyss is right about there not being a difference in the first 5-7 QBs in this draft.
I want to see the rest of the combine/pro days.
As of right now, Clowney/Robinson.
As of right now, Clowney/Robinson.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I voted Robinson because I think with Watkins , they have the best chance of being the best players in this draft 10 years from now .
I also think that the Texans need to dominate in one area of the game and with Brown , Myers and Brooks ( coming along ) and then adding Robinson , the Texans have a chance to be really dominating on the OL . Besides Robinson would take over LT in a couple of years .
The QB situation has none of them separating themselves from the pack and if they did , they wouldn't be better than the above players .
I also think that the Texans need to dominate in one area of the game and with Brown , Myers and Brooks ( coming along ) and then adding Robinson , the Texans have a chance to be really dominating on the OL . Besides Robinson would take over LT in a couple of years .
The QB situation has none of them separating themselves from the pack and if they did , they wouldn't be better than the above players .
Who else wishes that the Texans would've drafted Alonzo/Williams/Cyprien etc.... instead of Hopkins and taken Rodgers/Stills etc later in the draft? If they had Watkins would be in play.
If feel the same way about picking the QB's this yr.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
I guess it comes down to how far you feel the gap is between Bridgewater, Bortles, and Manziel is. Also how do you really feel about any of those being the guy you hand the keys to the offense and franchise to?
Myself? Maybe McCarron...and that is a BIG maybe to me. I'm just not sure from day one even he's ready to take the reins. I'd feel more comfortable with that scenario if I thought Schaub was someone who could stick around for one more year and ease any of those QBs in. I think the way his contract is set up and how bad he was last year it's slamdunk he becomes a June cut.
The next option then becomes, is there a stop gap QB on our roster currently (Keenum or Yates) or FA that you can ink to a short term deal while you develop a QB? I don't see either Yates or Keenum as that guy. Freeman, Cassel, McCown, Flynn maybe out there? Hope that next year's crop is worth moving up for or that the team struggles and lands in a good position to make a high pick again?
The final option becomes acquire a QB via a trade. How much does Philly value Foles? They also have Barkley on the roster whom they took on a flyer in the fifth. New England has Mallet. I am sure there are others, the question becomes trade price and how much do you spend on a contract to put them in place long term if you do believe they are a long term solution?
If it's me take your pick between the top prospects this year and move forward with them. For every Kaep and Russell Wilson there's Trent Edwards, John Beck, and Colt McCoys that people try to pick up later in hopes that they can coach them up or overlook glaring weakness because they won't cost a top pick. I think it's a cheap way out that doesn't work as often as people would hope it would.
aussie_texan
Veteran
i voted teddy but its still very very close between 5 players for me
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
This is my latest on the draft simulator .
1
OT GREG ROBINSON
AUBURN
33
DT RASHEDE HAGEMAN
MINNESOTA
65
ILB CHRIS BORLAND
WISCONSIN
97
QB JIMMY GAROPPOLO
EASTERN ILLINOIS
129
RB BISHOP SANKEY
WASHINGTON
161
WR JEFF JANIS
SAGINAW VALLEY STATE
193
RB TYLER GAFFNEY
STANFORD
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Teddy.
Robinson.
Mack.
Bortles.
Clowney.
Robinson.
Mack.
Bortles.
Clowney.
I really like this way of thinking. If we had a franchise QB, we could get away with less on the OL. If we had an elite OL, we could get away with less at the QB position.
We're much closer to having an elite OL than we are to having a franchise QB.
I "know" it's the right thing to do...
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I think the Texans need to get more athletic real quick . A 6'5 332 lb man that can break a 5 flat 40 is scarce . The Texans would have two of them on the right side of the OL .
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I would sign off on this.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
This has been tough for me. We need a QB and we need a QB really, really bad.
But... none of these guys make me excited. None of the guys in this draft have made me really excited. If we draft one of them, I'll be OK with it but part of me is going to be very, very worried. I also don't like any of the guys AFTER the top tier guys.
I don't like any of the free agents out there, either. I don't think that means you just roll the dice with the best of the worst, though.
So we chose a bad year to suck.
That's why I'd choose to take the best player available. To me, that's Watkins. (Or Robinson.)
As to our QB situation, we'll just have to rub some dirt in it and walk it off. Literally. Take a flyer on someone who has a shot in the draft, pick up one of those crappy FA vets, and then throw them all into the mix with Keenum and Yates and see who emerges. If no one does, we'll be looking at the QB class next year and hoping it pans out better than this one did for us.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
The Texans have some good players that need help . Gone are the expensive that don't fit , the oft injured , the slow , and the legacies .
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I don't believe he's going to be the best pro and that's what you're trying to accomplish .
Showtime100
Got JJ?
I picked Bridgewater because I think he's the best QB available. I was shocked that the majority agreed.....lol.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
If the Texans did go that route and where in this mindset then hands down Robinson or Watkins. I just keep thinking even with a mediocre vet... Trotting out AH, Hopkins, and Watkins! I mean chose your poison outside or in the slot. Almost guaranteed a mismatch at one spot every down.
Honestly, if I had to make a guess? Two man race between Bortles and Bridgewater.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Ah, but the question isn't what the Texans will do, it's what YOU would do if you were in a spot to make that choice.
I voted Matthews but could have just as easily gone with Robinson.
If you ask me tomorrow I could just as easily go Clowney then Van Noy at #2.
Be it offensively or defensively, build solid foundations in the trenches.
We've all seen what happens when you fail to do so.
If you ask me tomorrow I could just as easily go Clowney then Van Noy at #2.
Be it offensively or defensively, build solid foundations in the trenches.
We've all seen what happens when you fail to do so.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Bridgewater........Robinson.........Clowney.....in that order.
Whats funny is Aaron Rodgers is the guy TB is most frequently compared to for a number of reasons...among those reasons is him not overly "wowing" NFL scouts with anything. As it stands right now TB's getting the exact same treatment Rodgers got when he was drafted. It's all Manziel or Bortles....all is quiet on TB from scouts. There's either a tremendous amount of disinformation going on about him....or teams really arent impressed with him.
So in my mind, im preparing for the texans to pass on him.......and regret it.
Whats funny is Aaron Rodgers is the guy TB is most frequently compared to for a number of reasons...among those reasons is him not overly "wowing" NFL scouts with anything. As it stands right now TB's getting the exact same treatment Rodgers got when he was drafted. It's all Manziel or Bortles....all is quiet on TB from scouts. There's either a tremendous amount of disinformation going on about him....or teams really arent impressed with him.
So in my mind, im preparing for the texans to pass on him.......and regret it.
Do you think Aaron Rodgers would have been ready to start day 1?
PHILLYTEXANFAN
Saddle Up Partner
I'm compelled to say Watkins
Your man... Pots and pans
Your man... Pots and pans
Hervoyel
BUENO!
You know, I'm not going to say I'm for Bortles yet but I'm actually starting to think it's not complete madness either.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
I remember differently, Rodgers did recurve fair amount of hype because of his arm strength was it him who they had throwing on,his knees like 70 yards? Dude, has a cannon. If had to pick a comparison: Matt Ryan.
I don't think so, which is why he dropped, that and questions about him being a system qb.
For the record on poll I chose TB and barring Bottles just blowing it out of the water at his pro day, I feel confident that's who the FO will take.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
That was Jay Cutler and Rex Grossman may have done it also.
jradMIT
Veteran
Rodgers was suppose to be a system guy who would need some time to adjust to NFL offenses.
And Jamarcus!
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Probably not...but prospects who are ready to start from day 1 are few and far in between....hence Manning...Luck and RG3...And even these guys had their struggles. But as good as i feel about TB as a franchise guy, i still expect him to struggle mightily as a rookie starting qb. It's just the nature of the beast.
Where i differ with the TB haters is that i feel his work ethic, poise and general mentality about eating, sleeping and breathing the game will put him over the top and make him the best pro of all the qb prospects after his rookie year and going forward. But even saying that, it's not like his physical attributes are severely lacking compared to the other guys..
Kyle Boller.