Discussion in 'College Football & the NFL Draft' started by LikeMike, Feb 23, 2014.
Simple poll: if no trade was available to us and you have to select a player, who would it be?
I'm going to wait until everyone's been tested.
Right now, I'm leaning Watkins.
Extremely tough decision.
I have no strong conviction, but I think Clowney is simply more of a "sure thing" than the QB's.
I was extremely close to going Watkins, but considering the depth of the WR class in this draft and the state of the Texans WR position compared to other positions I couldn't justify it at 1.01.
We need a quarterback.
We need a playmaker.
We have trouble scoring.
We need that star power in the qb position (yes plenty of people have complained we dont have a flashy quarterback, always complaining about the lack of texans coverage on national stage)
Johnny Football addresses all those issues in spades.
Glad this was a public poll.
I think he's one of the top players in this draft. I think he's has a chance to be a great qb. This team needs a qb.
So even if I thought that clowney or whoever was a superior prospect (I don't), I'd still go with the qb who I thought could be very good.
I'm starting lean that way too, but it just feels wrong considering our need at QB.
Watkins is the only guy that doesn't have any questions marks for me.
It would come down to Clowney and the 3 QBs for me. Clowney and Watts would be tremendous on the same defense. But, you must have a QB. I take Bridgewater because he's the best passer of the 3. I don't see any real weakness in his game.
Robinson is pushing him, though.
Clowney is just so damned risky and I've yet to be convinced by any of the QBs.
When all is said and done, we need a qb, and Bridgewater can come in day 1 and make this team competitive. He is pretty much the consensus NFL ready guy. His game directly translates to the NFL. He excel at the mental aspects of the game on and off the field. Pocket passer with athletic ability to throw on the run with excellent accuracy. He has a great track record and has gotten better each year. I have serious questions about Manziel's abilities translating to the NFL without getting him hurt. Bortles I like but I think he is still a little raw and still needs some progression. In the end Bridgewater has the lowest floor and nearly the same ceiling IMHO of the other three. I am intrigued by Watkins but I am not so sure you can pass on Bridgewater and his consistency, and expect to make up for it with a later pick.
My preference in order is:
In fact, I'm comfortable with pretty much all the candidates except Bortles. So I fully expect us to take him. Schaub II.
I voted Manziel.
It's still too early to say, I'm 99% sure the Texans won't do it. I like Watkins better. I like Robinson, Matthews, Mack, Mosley, Evans, Tuitt, Lewan..... all better than I like Manziel.
He's too small, we've only got 2 years of data, he's way to cavalier with the ball & Mike Evans is one helluva WR.
As far as QBs go... I like Aj McCarron the most. He's got everything I'm looking for in a QB, & any coach worth his salt should be able to build a championship team with him.
But my gut tells me Manziel is going to be special. I don't know if that's, "Lombaries in our future" special, or "It can't be the QB so we'll fix everything else for 7 years." special.
I went with Bridgewater because I think his game has the least holes in it. He's the best passer of the three, he seems to have it between the ears, and seems to be the kind of QB you would preferably trust with the keys to the franchise of any QB prospect this year.
Clowney reminds me of Mario Williams 2.0. Kid has ALL the tools to dominate the game...when he decides to show.
I will say this one thing about Manziel: I do like his competitive fire. However, I have serious concerns about his coachability, his commitment to the position, focus, and how well his game will translate to the NFL.
Bortles, physically he looks the part, but does he have the arm and how raw is he?
Posted in another thread, an AJ, Hopkins, and Watkins trio at WR would terrorize defenses, but....who throws them the ball?
I voted Manziel, but I'd be happy with Bridgewater too. Can't believe I'm saying this because I've been killing the guy, but I wouldn't break my phone if we drafted Bortles either. I'm still not 100% sold, but he does have a lot of tools to work with. I trust O'Brien to pick the right guy he feels like can operate this offense effectively.
Voted Mack but had a hard time between Matthews, Watkins, and Robinson.
Really like Manziel, and Bridgewater but something is keeping me from taking either one.
If you had asked who probably WILL be the #1, sadly, i'm saying Bortles.
I'm voting Manziel, for several reasons either not mentioned previously, or not widely discussed.
1) Manziel will bring excitement to the Texans games. For many here on the forum, talk is about "franchise" QB who can take us to the Super Bowl. For me, it is as much about, if not more so, making the team an exciting team to watch, win or lose, but always competitive.
2) OB has said he is about taking the talent available and molding a team around that talent. Combined with #1 above, I'm hoping OB can take the innate talent that Manziel has and build a team around his strengths. Remember that Manziel is only a two year college player and is still developing his skills and his potential. Manziel was not asked to develop a pro style of play at A&M, but has the burning desire and drive to excel. He will take to OB's coaching like a fish to water. The results will be exciting to watch.
And, finally, 3) I think Keenum will make the team and will be coached up by OB. Manziel and Keenum are similar in temperament and in style of play. The two will complement each other and if need be, Case will be capable of coming in without the offense missing a beat.
McCarron, Mettenberger, Garoppolo, Thomas... Keenum...
So true. I can't give my opinion on this right now, it's damned difficult.
I went ahead and voted for Watkins even though I'd have preferred to see the LBs before I made my final choice.
But it was tough between Watkins and Robinson. I finally went Watkins because I think he's going to be the best player coming out of this draft. I think he's got a lot less risk than anyone. Even though it's not a position of need, Watkins is a sure-fire replacement for AJ when he retires.
Normally, I'd go with Robinson because I believe in building up the trenches and having a line of Brown - Quess - Myers - Brooks - Robinson would be a pretty awesome line.
If Bridgewater slips like Aaron Rodgers did, I wouldn't mind trading back up into the first to nab him. Other than that, we'll have to look for our QB later and hope that TKyss is right about there not being a difference in the first 5-7 QBs in this draft.
I want to see the rest of the combine/pro days.
As of right now, Clowney/Robinson.
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