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Sounds like Cedric Benson is coming to Houston

HOU-TEX said:
College stats aside, Benson hasn't done anything in the NFL to prove his worth.

Additionally, if you're going to label Green and Brown as injury prone you might as well do the same with Benson. He's had a season ending injury in 05 (knee) and 07 (ankle). He also missed the entire pre-season in 06 with a shoulder problem.
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He bailed on his team in the freakin' Superbowl because he doesn't like to get hit anymore. From a football perspective, his drinking and driving is the least of his issues.
 
texanfan2002114 said:
I've been reserve to comment on Benson, being that I am a Longhorn homer and was waiting to see if there was any truth to him coming to the Texans, but this comment throws me for a loop.

CAREER STATISTICS

Rushing/Receiving
Year G/GS Rush-Yds YPC TD Long Rec-Yds YPC TD Long
2004 12/12 326-1,834 5.6 19 60/Ark 22-179 8.1 1 20/MU
2003 12/11 258-1,360 5.3 21 50/TAM 9-120 13.3 1 59t/Rice
2002 13/13 305-1,293 4.2 12 59t/ISU 21-119 5.7 0 33/LSU*
2001 12/7 +223-1,053+ 4.7 12+ 61/KU 17-203 11.9 1 60t/KU
Career 49/43 1,112-5,540 5.0 64 61/KU 69-621 9.0 3 60t/KU

How do you rush for almost 3200 yards, 40 rushing TD's in the 2 years after being a sophomore and is considered a bad player???

2004 - Benson finished with the 4th highest rushing total behind, JJ Arrington,DeAngelo Williams and Adrian Peterson. He finished 3rd in rushing TD's and averaged close to 153 yards per game.

2003- Benson finished 16th in total rushing yards and tied for 1st in rushing TD's and lead the country in scoring and beat a player named Steven Jackson who is now a heck of a back for St. Louis.

I truly believe Benson was never given a chance to thrive in Chicago. Personally I would love for him to come to our Texans and given a true chance to win a job. I don't believe A. Green and Chris Brown are the answers because they are to injury prone.

Benson is not a bad back!!
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Sorry, but those college stats you just provided are a joke.

Since when are NFL RB's evaluated by what they did in college 4 to 5 years ago?

You aren't the most informed Longhorn fan either. Benson was smoking dope, partying, and doing all kinds of stuff at UT. The alums got him off one dope case and also kept his home invasion case under the radar. People heard about it, but it wasn't that big of a story. Plus, from what I hear from inside sources that knew a WHOLE LOT about Benson at the time have said that it wasn't even about a stolen TV and that is what about some DOPE that was stolen from Benson. THe whole TV story was a SPIN FACTOR. Benson was just able to perform well in college off of his talent alone. He didn't work hard and anyone on the team would tell you that. Plus, even VY said that Benson was not even that well liked by his teamates at Texas either.

Now if you want to post stats, POST THE REAL STATS! His NFL stats that actually MATTER. Benson has been awful since coming into the NFL.

None of this off the field stuff is the real issue here. I wouldn't mind at all if the Texans grabbed a bad apple kind of guy and took a chance if he was really good right now, simply because the Texans really aren't a team that has all the pieces to be real picky. However, Benson is NOT A GOOD BACK. His stats have been terrible, and anyone who has watched him in the last 3 years could clearly see that they guy is not cut out to be an NFL RB. I'm sorry but 3 years of a guy stinking up the field is all I need to see to gather the fact that HE SUCKS.


 
dalemurphy said:
Well, here's how you do it. You play for Mack Brown and so play against cream puffs like Rice, Tulane, New Mexico... then, you further pad your stats against teams like Baylor, Texas Tech, Oklahoma st., and what was a ridiculously weak Big 12 north.

On top of that, you play with Vince Young, who was such a threat in the zone-read that he created huge holes for a back to run through.

Being a UT homer, why don't you get your hands on a tape of him as a freshman and watch him run. Then, watch him later in his career. If you're honest with yourself, regardless of statistics, it's very clear that he lost the explosiveness and determination later in his UT career that he had his freshman year.
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Very good post and well informed as well.

I don't know what happened to the Benson I saw as a Freshman. That guy never returned. As good as his stats were in college, he didn't see to get better really. When he was a Freshman though, he looked amazing. His Senior year he developed a terrible stumbling problem as well that has only gotten worse.

Plus, and UT fan should remember how bad Benson was against the Sooners every year. He did not come up big in those rivalry games against Oklahoma.
 
ObsiWan said:
That statement applies to any and everyone who steps on the field.

And we'll thank you to always capitalize "Texans"
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I agree but the reason I made that statement is because i have no faith in Ahman green & Chris Brown they stay injured so why not bring in another guy who was a former top 5 pick.
 
Compared to Green and Brown, Benson has a much better chance of staying on the field. He has showed occasional flashes of ability the last couple of years. So what if the guy is a drunk and a showoff. Slaton is too small to drive the bus and they might complement each other. He is nowhere near the risk the Pats took on signing Moss. Don't forget the Bears saw enough in Benson to trade Thomas Jones before last season.
 
texanfan2002114 said:
I've been reserve to comment on Benson, being that I am a Longhorn homer and was waiting to see if there was any truth to him coming to the Texans, but this comment throws me for a loop.

CAREER STATISTICS
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Benson is not a bad back!!
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College stats don't mean jack. Dayne won a Heisman and set career rushing marks while he was at Wisconsin... and that never translated to a good career in the pros. Look at all the great college backs that never were able to put up the same kind of numbers in the pros: KiJana Carter, Reggie Bush, Lendale White, William Green, TJ Duckett,...
 
Texecutioner said:
Very good post and well informed as well.

I don't know what happened to the Benson I saw as a Freshman. That guy never returned. As good as his stats were in college, he didn't see to get better really. When he was a Freshman though, he looked amazing. His Senior year he developed a terrible stumbling problem as well that has only gotten worse.Plus, and UT fan should remember how bad Benson was against the Sooners every year. He did not come up big in those rivalry games against Oklahoma.
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Uhhhh............Aren't drunk people expected to stumble??:shots:
 
Wolf said:
I personally think he probably talked to the Texans but with the time that has passed and the quietness of him ,his agent, and more importantly the Texans.. I will be surprised if anything is done,
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not saying, just saying, keep in mind that until july 5th the Texans offices are closed so it's not suprising if some talks are taking place that nothing would be happening right now.
 
Sal Rosenberg said:
Is there any truth to this rumor?
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naaah... at least none that anyone would bet a paycheck on

honestly, we're all just bored as all get-out! I don't know if we can keep this one going until camp opens - but we damn sure seem to be tryin'
:)
 
ObsiWan said:
naaah... at least none that anyone would bet a paycheck on

honestly, we're all just bored as all get-out! I don't know if we can keep this one going until camp opens - but we damn sure seem to be tryin'
:)
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there's still a carr thread gettin some action
 
mexican_texan said:
So this is an 11 page thread based on one guy's speculation?
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This thread was started by a guy who said he was aware of talks.

The talks between Benson & the Texans are rumor, and may not have any basis in reality.

The 11 pages(or whatever) are a civil discussion about whether the Texans should be talking to Benson or not.
 
Tonight on NFL Total Access......Adam Scheffler reported that there were rumors of the Texans talking to Cedric Benson, but in the end Houston was NOT interested in Benson.
 
dalemurphy said:
Well, regardless of Chicago's offense, he was a lot less explosive than Thomas Jones. His lack of desire and effort was also painfully obvious... Considering that includes a trip to the Superbowl, I'm not sure how our situation will motivate or rejuvinate him. Ced Benson's a guy that took the first opportunity he could to bail out of the biggest came of his career.
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Indeed he was less effective than Thomas Jones who was coincidentally at a point in his career where he could either put up something or go home. Isn't that where Benson is today?

In 2006 Jones and Benson both averaged 4.1 yards a carry. In 2005 Benson had 4.1 to Jones 4.3. In 2007 as the starter for the Bears Benson dropped to 3.4.

Guess what Jones managed in New York? He had a whopping 3.6 per carry.

In three years in the league Benson ran for 4.1, 4.1, and 3.4 and failed to displace Thomas Jones as the starter. In Jones first three years in the league he averaged 3.3, 3.4, and 3.7 before changing his address and becoming a quality NFL back. Before that he was a bust languishing behind Michael Pittman and Marcel Shipp. People see their careers change all the time in the NFL.

Sign Benson and see what he's got. There's absolutely no harm in doing so and somebody is going to find out if he can make something of himself. If he can't then nobody is ever going to remember or care who gave him his last shot in the league but if he can then he's going to do it for somebody and he's going to do it cheap.

But obviously the Texans don't feel that way so....next subject?
 
Hervoyel said:
Indeed he was less effective than Thomas Jones who was coincidentally at a point in his career where he could either put up something or go home. Isn't that where Benson is today?

In 2006 Jones and Benson both averaged 4.1 yards a carry. In 2005 Benson had 4.1 to Jones 4.3. In 2007 as the starter for the Bears Benson dropped to 3.4.

Guess what Jones managed in New York? He had a whopping 3.6 per carry.

In three years in the league Benson ran for 4.1, 4.1, and 3.4 and failed to displace Thomas Jones as the starter. In Jones first three years in the league he averaged 3.3, 3.4, and 3.7 before changing his address and becoming a quality NFL back. Before that he was a bust languishing behind Michael Pittman and Marcel Shipp. People see their careers change all the time in the NFL.

Sign Benson and see what he's got. There's absolutely no harm in doing so and somebody is going to find out if he can make something of himself. If he can't then nobody is ever going to remember or care who gave him his last shot in the league but if he can then he's going to do it for somebody and he's going to do it cheap.

But obviously the Texans don't feel that way so....next subject?
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Difference there is that Jones has an impeccable work ethic while Benson is, I'm sorry to say, your typical UT player.
 
Benson along with alot of FA RBs will be sitting at home until somebody gets injured in camp/preseason.

For all the posters that get mad every time Houston passes on "the next great runningback" with their first round pick/high pick, this is why. The runningback position is the cheapest in the entire league. Hell a guy that won the MVP award a couple of seasons ago can't even find work.

Personally I think Houston basically told Benson...."tell you what guy, we'll keep your number and if a spot opens up and your still available, we'll give you a call". Then they probably shook his hand and politely showed him the door.
 
mexican_texan said:
Difference there is that Jones has an impeccable work ethic while Benson is, I'm sorry to say, your typical UT player.
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The folks in AZ who drafted him might question that impeccable work ethic in regards to his production on the field.

At the end of the day people aren't going to care if you half ass it on the practice field as long as you play balls to the wall and produce on game day. We're talking about Practice...Practice?
 
PapaL said:
The folks in AZ who drafted him might question that impeccable work ethic in regards to his production on the field.

At the end of the day people aren't going to care if you half ass it on the practice field as long as you play balls to the wall and produce on game day. We're talking about Practice...Practice?
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I am not sure what happened with Jones in Arizona, but other than (arguably) those three years, work ethic was never a problem for him. He was one of the most respected guys to ever play at Virginia, and that includes the RB he replaced, Tiki Barber. He routinely took 18-20 credit hours a semester so he could complete his undergrad degree in three years, giving him one scholarship year as a grad student (he did not redshirt). Heck, one semester I took 16 hours and swore I'd never do that again.

Things did not go well in Arizona. Jake Plummer ripped the pick, saying that Arizona already had its RB (Michael Pittman, I believe). In any event, Jones struggled in the putrid Cardinal offense--his ypc were in line with the other backs--but he was losing time to Pittman and then Shipp.

It was during this time that his brother Julius flunked out of Notre Dame and came to live with Thomas in Phoenix while getting his head straight. It may have been that Jones was caught up in that issue. There may have been an adjustment period--including adjusting to the fact that this kid whose mom (?!?) worked in coal mine was now a millionaire. But the guy righted himself in Tampa (including a big game against us) and then went on to be the most esteemed offensive player in Chicago until he was idiotically traded away.

But at every stop of his career except (arguably) the Arizona years, Jones was as hard a worker as there was. What little I know of Benson's background comes from places like these, but I don't think he's ever had that reputation. If the posts in this thread are indication, it's actually quite the opposite.

Sorry for the rant, but if Benson wants to turn his career around the way Jones did, he needs to act the part every day, not just game day.
 
mexican_texan said:
Difference there is that Jones has an impeccable work ethic while Benson is, I'm sorry to say, your typical UT player.
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How is he your typical UT player? Are you an Aggie or something? Texas has a ton of studs in the NFL. Please give a bunch of facts that backs up this statement?
 
i would tay typically UT players are a bit babied. they seem to lack work ethic alot of times. they seem to have a hard time transitioning to the NFL. off the top of my head, i'll go with Benson, Young, Williams to start.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Benson along with alot of FA RBs will be sitting at home until somebody gets injured in camp/preseason.

For all the posters that get mad every time Houston passes on "the next great runningback" with their first round pick/high pick, this is why. The runningback position is the cheapest in the entire league. Hell a guy that won the MVP award a couple of seasons ago can't even find work.

Personally I think Houston basically told Benson...."tell you what guy, we'll keep your number and if a spot opens up and your still available, we'll give you a call". Then they probably shook his hand and politely showed him the door.
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If there are so many available excellent RB's laying around doing nothing, why don't we have some of them on our team?
 
nut said:
If there are so many available excellent RB's laying around doing nothing, why don't we have some of them on our team?
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Probably because we currently have around 5 on the roster that are similar to the ones that will be sitting at home. We don't need anymore.
 
nut said:
If there are so many available excellent RB's laying around doing nothing, why don't we have some of them on our team?
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The excellent RBs have jobs. It's the RBs who are wearing more ?s than the Riddler who are looking for work.
 
Rotoworld said:
Cedric Benson-RB-Bears Jul. 2 - 9:50 am et

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that the Texans aren't interested in Cedric Benson, despite some rumors to the contrary.
We haven't posted the rumors because they were just message board fodder, and Schefter says they are baseless. Schefter also reports the market for Benson is quite cool, and he thinks Benson won't get a job until a running back is hurt elsewhere in training camp.
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Bad news for Benson...
 
I bet I know how all of this even started.

Guy at work: Cool Cedric Benson. Love you at UT man
Benson: Thanks I appreciate it.

Guy at work: Without getting into too much of your business and taking care of your business with us, are you planning on playing this year?
Benson: Of course. I'm just looking for the right deal and right place. You know.

Guy at work: It would be awesome if you played for someone in Texas again.
Benson: Yeah I'd really like to play in Houston if possible.

Guy at work goes to computer and types away on TexansTalk.com and says we are interested.
 
It's kinda funny how we've gotten the same if not more production out of our now retired DD/W then they have gotten out of their 1st round RBs yet we're the dumb ones.
 
nut said:
If there are so many available excellent RB's laying around doing nothing, why don't we have some of them on our team?
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Because our RB situation is not as bad as people make it out to be. I like the backs we already have.........solid vets, with good young talent as depth.
 
Hardcore Texan said:
I think I will be signing up for that board to help defend our honor!!!!
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Don't count on being approved. I think it's been 3 years now since I signed up and have yet to receive an approval email.

Eh, probably better off anyways. Their intelligence level seems equivalent to that of a cripple coon.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Don't count on being approved. I think it's been 3 years now since I signed up and have yet to receive an approval email.

Eh, probably better off anyways. Their intelligence level seems equivalent to that of a cripple coon.
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Seconded.. If you go by there now you will see my normal screen name, but if I try to post I get the old "You do not have permission, yada yada, please contact the Administrator, blah, blah, blah........... Here's the rub. I get the same message if I try to PM their admin.... :gun:
 
Well see what happens, I just activated my account. That would be pretty lame not to let people in and share opinions, talk smack, whatever.
 
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