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Texans interested in RB Chris Brown | Update: Signed

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DiehardChris

You betcha!
UPDATE: Check that - we're actually meeting with him tomorrow (Wednesday)

According to Rotoworld, he's a perfect fit for the ZBS.

He's injury prone, but younger than I thought he was. He's 26... 27 in April.

Man, it's going to be a crowded backfield in training camp.
 
Yeah, but he runs straight up.

Who else runs straight up? Adrian Peterson. Oh, and Eric Dickerson.

Hey - we're about to sign the next Adrian Peterson!

WOOT WOOT!



In all seriousness, I'd rather have Chris Brown taking handoffs than Ron Dayne.
 
I don't like the idea of patching together as many injury prone RBs as you can and hoping someone makes it out in the end. It's like RB Russian Roulette
 
We've been interested in Chris Brown since before DD was out of the league forever. And every year we have this exact same discussion, weaken the Titans, He is a hard runner, delivers a solid punch. And every year he goes back to the Titans.

I really do hate the offseason.
 
drewmar74 said:
Yeah, but he runs straight up.

Who else runs straight up? Adrian Peterson. Oh, and Eric Dickerson.

Hey - we're about to sign the next Adrian Peterson!

WOOT WOOT!



In all seriousness, I'd rather have Chris Brown taking handoffs than Ron Dayne.
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I do not believe Chris Brown would be considered as a replacement for Dayne in that he does not tend to do well in the Red Zone.
 
Vinny said:
They did...he's just always hurt
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Out of 80 possible starts he had 29. He never started or played in a full season worth of games. He played in 54 out of a possible 80 games. He either was hurt or not good or both. He broke 1000 yards once. And barely did it then. He failed to score a TD in 2 out of his 5 seasons. I don't want him.


If comes here I'll jump on his bandwagon just like I did Greens but I would rather go into the season with what we have than to pick him up.


:fans:
 
Brown is a frustrating type player. he does not totally suck, but between his injury issues (never really major) and just enough fumbling he drives a person to :gun: :shots: :hairpull:
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
Brown is a frustrating type player. he does not totally suck, but between his injury issues (never really major) and just enough fumbling he drives a person to :gun: :shots: :hairpull:
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Ohhhhhh.... forgot about the fumbling.

As much as Kubiak hates a fumbler, why are they bringing him in? Isn't fumbling what kept Taylor on the bench during the '06 campaign?
 
Are Darius Walker and Chris Taylor still eligable for the practice squad? Because if we bring in another RB I don't know if there is enough room for both of them but they have both looked good. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if we don't touch the RB position. We signed Ahman Green who will hopefully be atleast somewhat servicable this year. Darius and Chris have both show promise and given the chance I think they both could carry the load. I'd like to shore up the defense in the draft, especially on the first day, with a CB in the first and a OLB in the third. With Alex Gibbs as a coach I think that we will be fine with what we have. We don't need to be sniffing around guys like Chris Brown.
 
barrett said:
Exactly. I'd say that makes them pretty similar.
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I think that's not by accident, the Texans are masters at cheap insurance in camp. I think Kubes and company are just hedging their bets in case the guy they want isnt available in the draft. Then after the draft they will hedge some more with the UDFA market. I would think people would have caught on by now.
 
TK_Gamer said:
I think that's not by accident, the Texans are masters at cheap insurance in camp. I think Kubes and company are just hedging their bets in case the guy they want isnt available in the draft. Then after the draft they will hedge some more with the UDFA market. I would think people would have caught on by now.
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No no, the sky is definately falling!
 
good talent, more risk than most would like, and minimal salary ... sounds accurate to me. if he signs, he signs low or not at all. if he earns a spot and plays, great - he's got the talent to make an impact. if not, no major loss. i like it ... a lot of upside with little downside (outside of fumbles). i know that young backups are automatically fan favorites, but i'd rather sign every minimum available than hope that taylor & walker are hall of fame bound.

and i'll stick up for dayne, in his role as a grinder he was solid and filled in admirably as a starter because our main backs couldnt. he did his job and then some, give him the credit that one of the worst tackles in football (salaam) gets for his efforts. dayne earned his check.
 
Scooter said:
and i'll stick up for dayne, in his role as a grinder he was solid and filled in admirably as a starter because our main backs couldnt. he did his job and then some, give him the credit that one of the worst tackles in football (salaam) gets for his efforts. dayne earned his check.
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exactly, he did what was asked of him.
 
PHAROAH said:
Injury prone and a waste of time.
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Kinda ruins youre argument about getting a RB in the first round huh?

PHAROAH said:
Dude don't take the bait this is a complete smoke screen for the other teams to bite on. It's obvious the Texans are going to draft a running back really high because they haven't done anything in free agency to at least address the position. IMO the texans are poised to draft a running back in round 1 which one we don't know but all of moves are pointing in that direction.
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:redface:
 
Gee kinda sounds like Fred Taylor to me. On the bright side he would probably be injured less since he wouldn't be getting laid out by our DBs twice a year.
 
b0ng said:
How is this different from Ron Dayne? Did Dayne become "Dangerous" in the red zone and I didn't get a memo?
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I like many aspects of Brown's game, but as far as "red zone" performance, I was referring to his fumbling, the rate of which is at least twice that of Dayne (Brown-13 in 5 years,of which 8 were lost/Dayne-7 in 7 years, of which 4 were lost).............and most of those have been in the "red zone" leading to significant fan fraustration.
 
PapaL said:
Gee kinda sounds like Fred Taylor to me. On the bright side he would probably be injured less since he wouldn't be getting laid out by our DBs twice a year.
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I would much rather see our DL and LB's lay out opposing RB's instead of our DB's!!!
:music:
 
2006 . Hou . 11games . 151rushes . 612yards . 4.1ypc . 19long . 5TD . 2fumble
2007 . Hou . 13games . 194rushes . 773yards . 4.0ypc . 39long . 6TD . 1fumble

2006 . NOR . 16games . 155rushes . 565yards . 3.6ypc . 18long . 6TD . 2fumble:
2007 . NOR . 12games . 157rushes . 581yards . 3.7ypc . 22long . 4TD . 7fumble

the first player is the maligned backup for the texans who earns a near minimum salary and as a minority I hope will be back as #2 this year.

the second player is the best runningback to come out of college in the last 30 years who broke the bank before playing a down. production vs potential means squat in this league.
 
Scooter said:
2006 . Hou . 11games . 151rushes . 612yards . 4.1ypc . 19long . 5TD . 2fumble
2007 . Hou . 13games . 194rushes . 773yards . 4.0ypc . 39long . 6TD . 1fumble

2006 . NOR . 16games . 155rushes . 565yards . 3.6ypc . 18long . 6TD . 2fumble:
2007 . NOR . 12games . 157rushes . 581yards . 3.7ypc . 22long . 4TD . 7fumble

the first player is the maligned backup for the texans who earns a near minimum salary and as a minority I hope will be back as #2 this year.

the second player is the best runningback to come out of college in the last 30 years who broke the bank before playing a down. production vs potential means squat in this league.
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Leaving off Reggies receiving yards is like leaving out VYs rushing yards. Sure it makes your arguement look better but it doesn't paint a full picture. Reggie also had over 1,100 receiving yards over those two seasons. Dayne had under 200 yards receiving over the last two seasons.
 
Overalls said:
Leaving off Reggies receiving yards is like leaving out VYs rushing yards. Sure it makes your arguement look better but it doesn't paint a full picture. Reggie also had over 1,100 receiving yards over those two seasons. Dayne had under 200 yards receiving over the last two seasons.
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it's also like leaving off ted ginn's return numbers and michael griffin's special teams tackles.

domanick davis averaged 400+ yards receiving in our under .500 years. ladainian tomlinson had 100 receptions and 725yds in a 4 win year. if you have no line (chargers replaced 4 starters on their O-line for 04) and an offense built on dumpoffs it's easy to inflate stats without production. where in those awesome yardage numbers are anything over 20yds ... either as a back or receiver? surely there's something ... anything? hello? bueller?

edit: my arguement is to defend dayne for what he's done both in and outside of his role (i'd like to see him back), and to emphasize the need to sign as many cheap and potentially effective backs as possible ... similar to our 06 defensive tackle situation. taking a shot at reggie bust is just a bonus.
 
Overalls said:
Leaving off Reggies receiving yards is like leaving out VYs rushing yards. Sure it makes your arguement look better but it doesn't paint a full picture. Reggie also had over 1,100 receiving yards over those two seasons. Dayne had under 200 yards receiving over the last two seasons.
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True in part, but then you aren't considering his yards per reception which are piss poor even for a RB--Link

DD by the way averaged 8.3 ypc for 939 yards in his first two years. I seem to recall hearing people around Houston talking about how ineffective all those little dump-offs were.
 
infantrycak said:
True in part, but then you aren't considering his yards per reception which are piss poor even for a RB--Link

DD by the way averaged 8.3 ypc for 939 yards in his first two years. I seem to recall hearing people around Houston talking about how ineffective all those little dump-offs were.
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You know the reason for that though, it was the sheer number of dump-offs that were caused by you-know-who's innability to ready the field and get rid of the ball. Not too many people thought DD was a mediocre back. It was our toal offense that was mediocre.
 
TK_Gamer said:
Not too many people thought DD was a mediocre back.
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Oh, there were plenty of people who thought DD was a mediocre back and certainly he was not a great one--slightly above average very versatile back, but not a great one. You'll still see people post that DD was really nothing more than a 3rd down back. That is why the Bush contrast is so amusing. 4th round 3rd down RB sure looks good in comparison:

First 2 years:

DD--2,219 rushing yards at 4.2 ypc, 21 TD's, 103 1st downs, 10 of 20+ yds, 3 of 40+ yds, 939 receiving yards at 8.3 ypr, 1 TD, 42 1st downs, 1 of 20+ yds, 8 total fumbles.
Bush--1,146 rushing yards at 3.7 ypc, 10 TD's, 59 1st downs, 3 of 10+ yds, 0 of 40+ yds, 1,159 receiving yards at 5.7 ypr, 4 TD's, 56 1st downs, 6 of 20+, 2 of 40+, 9 fumbles.
 
Scooter said:
and i'll stick up for dayne, in his role as a grinder he was solid and filled in admirably as a starter because our main backs couldnt. he did his job and then some, give him the credit that one of the worst tackles in football (salaam) gets for his efforts. dayne earned his check.
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Rep time :)
 
I am not hating on Dayne. I would rather have him over Brown and most of the other FA RBs out there. He did his job every where on the field except when we had four tries for one yard.
 
infantrycak said:
Oh, there were plenty of people who thought DD was a mediocre back and certainly he was not a great one--slightly above average very versatile back, but not a great one. You'll still see people post that DD was really nothing more than a 3rd down back. That is why the Bush contrast is so amusing. 4th round 3rd down RB sure looks good in comparison:

First 2 years:

DD--2,219 rushing yards at 4.2 ypc, 21 TD's, 103 1st downs, 10 of 20+ yds, 3 of 40+ yds, 939 receiving yards at 8.3 ypr, 1 TD, 42 1st downs, 1 of 20+ yds, 8 total fumbles.
Bush--1,146 rushing yards at 3.7 ypc, 10 TD's, 59 1st downs, 3 of 10+ yds, 0 of 40+ yds, 1,159 receiving yards at 5.7 ypr, 4 TD's, 56 1st downs, 6 of 20+, 2 of 40+, 9 fumbles.
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hehe...hehehehe....hehehehehehehe...I love a good bush bashing. Hopefully I'm not too late to join the party.

It's a sad state of affairs where we can't judge someone who was their teams primary RUNNING BACK based on his running yards. LT has good hands too, but he can stand on his rushing totals alone. I want a running back that can run the ball. I said the day he was drafted, and i stand by it...Reggie Bust will NEVER run for 1000 yards in the nfl. Maybe if you add up his punt return yards, trips to the gatorade cooler to fetch for the vets, and miles traveled to and from practice...but by conventional metrics...no. Didn't justin fargas rush for around 1000 last year?
 
Overalls said:
I am not hating on Dayne. I would rather have him over Brown and most of the other FA RBs out there. He did his job every where on the field except when we had four tries for one yard.
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I ain't afraid to say it, I hate Ron Dayne. The only roll that Ron Dayne should have with the Texans is working the concession stand at Reliant. Even then he would get stopped right before he got your food to the counter.

Our running game has been in the bottom half for the past two seasons, and guess who has been our primary back? He averaged 59.6 yards a game. His career hi in rushing is 150 yards! Hell, even Gary Brown had a pair of 200 yard games in his short career. Dayne is old man river.

Dayne needs to move on and so does Brown. I would be fine with Green/Taylor/Walker/Draft pick. I predict this though, if they sign a vet back Green will get cut. Theres no room for 4 backs much less 5.
 
TEXANRED said:
Dayne needs to move on and so does Brown. I would be fine with Green/Taylor/Walker/Draft pick. I predict this though, if they sign a vet back Green will get cut. Theres no room for 4 backs much less 5.
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People were making fun of the Patriots for signing all those WR's last season...looks like it turned out pretty nicely for them.
 
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