Ole Miss Texan
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That would just about shore up our defense!
Exactly my thinking as well.
Random thought of the Day: Terrel Owens really reminds me of Bernie Mac.
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That would just about shore up our defense!
Exactly my thinking as well.
Random thought of the Day: Terrel Owens really reminds me of Bernie Mac.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
he's earned the spot & remains their best option.
Peyton lights up every cb, don't go blaming coaching or Petey, please.
lighten up dude, the defense did reasonably well. the Colts OL has developed into one the best units in the NFL. our LB's really limited their ground game, nothing terrible & our DL never gave up, just could'nt catch a break because Manning is too smart & gets rid of the ball quickly.
its no excuse but those two teams in week 1 & 2 where not the Colts.
the Texans where without their #1 RB shortly after the first set, the #2 RB the entire game & the #3 RB should not have even made this team, not to mention their #1 playmaker WR Andre Johnson. they need an immediate transfusion
Vinny
shiny happy fan
Faggins wasn't always in single coverage. He gave a big cushion to not get beat deep but that was the technique they worked on all week. Part of why he was in it is because he isn't that good as a press corner. I saw him play in the outside getting inside help, and he also had help over the top as the secondary mixed up their coverages pretty well. Faggins is much like the Oilers Steve Jackson....a good player as an extra back in passing downs but not a good starter. Fletcher isn't as good a player as Faggins is so benching Faggins isn't a solution at the moment I don't think.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
If thats true, what the heck does that say about our coaching?
I mean if the casual fans......(me, you, and everybody else) is talking about how Faggins ONLY assignment is not to get beat deep with his cushions, then what's going to stop opposing coaches from drawing up their game plans to drive Faggins back and then turn around and catch intermediate passes all game. (which is exactly what's been going on)
Nobody is going to respect our pass defense until the Texans (Faggins) can prove they can man up on that side.
Faggins has been exposed on tape....the Colts just didn't walk into the game saying......"gee whiz we are getting lucky throwing that 6 to 7 yard gimmie on the right side".....they knew it was going to be there and until we mix things up.....it's going to be there.
I don't know, maybe I'm just frustrated, I just want/feel there's a better answer to this problem.....If it can't be found on the bench (and no I'm not a "fire everybody guy"), but maybe we need to find a replacement for John Hoke, because frankly........what makes the guy so special? year after year our secondary is always a weakness on this team and it's not just because we play in the same division as the Colts.
Sometimes I feel that Dunta's stellar rookie year gave Hoke a multi-year "grace period".
rollinstone18
let it bleed
I like Samuels too but that would make our #1 and #2 CB under 6ft. Maybe it'd work out fine, but it's still something to keep in mind. He's also going to want a lot of dough. And there's a good crop of young CBs in the '08 draft. But he's still worth pursuing.
Another free agent I'd like to look at signing is Alan Faneca.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
I just think it means that they didn't want to give up big plays on that side of the field. A lot of critical plays were given up by Fletcher and Faggins both, but I think that says more about their talent level than it does our coaching. I mean, we just played one of the NFL's all time, historic passing offenses...Faggins isn't a great CB but the team is good enough to beat the lower 16 teams in the NFL and compete with the better teams even with Faggins at CB2. The Manning Colts are good.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
I understand the Colts are great....don't get me wrong, they are great, but we got burnt be Carolina also (only one elite receiver). We are getting beat by a coaching standpoint (Dunta should of been put on Smith) and a player standpoint.
The way this secondary is playing and the way things are rolling, I think John Hoke's head is going to roll.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
I just threw Samuels name out there, mainly because we can afford him, but regardless if we go for him or not, we should still sign a player in FA that the team feels can be a # 2 cb here..........and a player that can play in the AFC South with Wayne, Harrison, Clark, and Gonzalez.........that mean's a upper echelon cb.
You know, I was going to start a whole another thread on this, but I'll go ahead and post it here.
Everybody loves to say......"Texans built their team to beat the Colts', locally and national people say they have, but if you think about it, they haven't
As much as it pains me to say it, the Titans have built their team to beat the Colts. Regardless if anyone wants to acknowledge it, Peyton doesn't give a crap or cares about "your" pass rush and the Colts offense is built from the pass first, run second philosophy.
Let me ask you this question........who has played the Colts closer and held the Colts to lower scores?
The Titans have spent their draft and FA on upgrading their talent in the secondary and it shows against the Colts.
Just my .02.
I didn't think this was a playoff year to start. I might be changing that. But if I have to chose between a wildcard and out year vs an 8-9 win season and developing a CB2. I'll take the CB2 and even higher expectations next year. Hell, if you have to... rotate CB2. Either way... at least there isn't much film showing oppsing coaches what Bennet's weaknesses are. Faggins lack of ability is documented over a 4 year period. He's a nickleback.. and that's not a knock on him. He's overachieving as a 6th round pick. I have no doubt he puts in work.. you have to if you want to stay in this league. Especially given the fact I don't think he's as physically gifted as anyone but Kris Brown on our roster.
Mike
I didn't think this was a playoff year to start. I might be changing that. But if I have to chose between a wildcard and out year vs an 8-9 win season and developing a CB2. I'll take the CB2 and even higher expectations next year. Hell, if you have to... rotate CB2. Either way... at least there isn't much film showing oppsing coaches what Bennet's weaknesses are. Faggins lack of ability is documented over a 4 year period. He's a nickleback.. and that's not a knock on him. He's overachieving as a 6th round pick. I have no doubt he puts in work.. you have to if you want to stay in this league. Especially given the fact I don't think he's as physically gifted as anyone but Kris Brown on our roster.
Mike
I don't believe he was always in single coverage, and I'm not disappointed with our team as a unit. I was responding sarcastically to someone who said he was always in single coverage.
I like Faggins, and I think he's as good as most of the CB2s in this league. I'll take Faggins over Anthony Henry, even though Henry has two picks now. I bet Faggins will have a solid year stat wise come week 17.
IMHO, because we have this team under a micro-scope we are hyper critical of several players. Faggins & CC Brown specifically. These guys are middle of the pack, I think, but because we see them every week, we think they are the worse players in the league.
Petey didn't get "burnt" by Steve Smith. At least I didn't see it(but I've got a bad memory). He fell down on the second touchdown, but he was in position to make the play. Steve Smith caught the ball, then blew by three other Texans defenders not named Faggins.
On the first touchdown, Petey was in his face, and prevented Smith from initially receiving the ball. But it took a Carolina bounce, and Steve Smith made a great play.
Now, to keep things in Perspective, the Colts have averaged 417ypg this year. We only allowed 364 to that team, and we scored 24 points without our go to guy, and our third string running back.
Silver lining and all, we're still looking pretty good.
The1ApplePie
Hall of Fame
Samuels is Jason David part 2. Another zone CB that can't cover anything man to man.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
I've seen Samuels shut down plenty of people man to man.
If he was just another "Jason David" then why didn't the Pats let him walk like the Colts, when they always let their "zone CBs" walk. Nope instead, the Pats paid Samuels top dollar and franchised him to return.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Exactly. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken ....beaks.
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
how about feet?
Shaft75
All Pro
You're right, Samuels is a top notch CB in this league. We could only dream of having him on our roster right now. It would make a world of difference to our defense.
Here's my take on this topic...it's just too early to put Bennett into the fire. I think that most of us here can agree that Kubiak knows what he's doing, so if Bennett was the better option, he would hae put him in already. From what I understand, Bennett isn't healthy. Once he's able to contribute, I say put him into nickle packages for some experience. Confidence is precious in this league, so the more favorable looks he gets, the better. Let's not throw him into the fire just yet.
AnthonyE
Lurker
Great comparison!
He's getting abused out there, just to get his WR partially covered we'll need a double team out there.
For all you guy's regurgitating the same garbage bashing Faggins ..... Sunday he was covering Marvin Harrison , the guy is one of the top 5 recievers in the NFL . Harrison had 6 catches for 53 yards no TD's and a long of 14 yards ..... Pey-Me-A-Ton Manning was playing catch with him . He's no slouch either .... arguably the #1 or #2 QB in the game right now .
Add to that the Texans safeties are probably the weakest position on that side of the ball at this time . There is NO true FS on this roster . Boulware and Demps didnt join the team until after training camp and probably dont have a great grasp of their jobs in this defense just yet .... Not to mention that they are both more suited to the SS position . Do I even need to mention CC Brown here ?
Von Hutchins is a CB playing out of position , he's made a few plays but is he really the answer ? He was behind Faggins at the CB position for a reason .
Lets not forget that Glenn Earl , Jason Simmons and Brandon Harrison are all on IR .
Seems every week teams try to match up their best reciever against Faggins . And every week the coaches keep sending him out there with limited help over the top ..... could that be why he gives recievers a 5-7 yard cushion ?
Yes , Steve Smith had 3 TD's in last weeks game .... one of which was a highlight reel catch in the end zone tipping the ball to himself .... Faggins had excelent position on the play ..... Smith just made a great play . On one of the others about 5 guy's failed to tackle him after a mediocre gain .... just another great play from Smith .
Take away that play and Smith had a good game but nothing to bellow about . (7 catches for 79 yards . 11.3 avg)
As for the final catch that Harrison made for a first down essentially killing the Texans chances .... Its the coaches who call the plays and put the players in position prior to the snap not the other way around . Ive yet to see a Defensive Coordinator record a sack or interception ..... The coaches had to know better than giving Harrison a 7 yard cushion in that situatoin .
Maybe some of you guy's had Marvin Harrison on your fantasy teams this week and are kinda pissed he didnt do more ..... but when Harrison lines up against the Texans I'll take 6 catches for 53 yards and no TD's from my DB every week .
Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark had a bigger impact on this game than Harrison ....
You Armchair Cornerbacks need to find another scapegoat
Add to that the Texans safeties are probably the weakest position on that side of the ball at this time . There is NO true FS on this roster . Boulware and Demps didnt join the team until after training camp and probably dont have a great grasp of their jobs in this defense just yet .... Not to mention that they are both more suited to the SS position . Do I even need to mention CC Brown here ?
Von Hutchins is a CB playing out of position , he's made a few plays but is he really the answer ? He was behind Faggins at the CB position for a reason .
Lets not forget that Glenn Earl , Jason Simmons and Brandon Harrison are all on IR .
Seems every week teams try to match up their best reciever against Faggins . And every week the coaches keep sending him out there with limited help over the top ..... could that be why he gives recievers a 5-7 yard cushion ?
Yes , Steve Smith had 3 TD's in last weeks game .... one of which was a highlight reel catch in the end zone tipping the ball to himself .... Faggins had excelent position on the play ..... Smith just made a great play . On one of the others about 5 guy's failed to tackle him after a mediocre gain .... just another great play from Smith .
Take away that play and Smith had a good game but nothing to bellow about . (7 catches for 79 yards . 11.3 avg)
As for the final catch that Harrison made for a first down essentially killing the Texans chances .... Its the coaches who call the plays and put the players in position prior to the snap not the other way around . Ive yet to see a Defensive Coordinator record a sack or interception ..... The coaches had to know better than giving Harrison a 7 yard cushion in that situatoin .
Maybe some of you guy's had Marvin Harrison on your fantasy teams this week and are kinda pissed he didnt do more ..... but when Harrison lines up against the Texans I'll take 6 catches for 53 yards and no TD's from my DB every week .
Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark had a bigger impact on this game than Harrison ....
You Armchair Cornerbacks need to find another scapegoat
Shaft75
All Pro
For all you guy's regurgitating the same garbage bashing Faggins ..... Sunday he was covering Marvin Harrison , the guy is one of the top 5 recievers in the NFL . Harrison had 6 catches for 53 yards no TD's and a long of 14 yards ..... Pey-Me-A-Ton Manning was playing catch with him . He's no slouch either .... arguably the #1 or #2 QB in the game right now .
Add to that the Texans safeties are probably the weakest position on that side of the ball at this time . There is NO true FS on this roster . Boulware and Demps didnt join the team until after training camp and probably dont have a great grasp of their jobs in this defense just yet .... Not to mention that they are both more suited to the SS position . Do I even need to mention CC Brown here ?
Von Hutchins is a CB playing out of position , he's made a few plays but is he really the answer ? He was behind Faggins at the CB position for a reason .
Lets not forget that Glenn Earl , Jason Simmons and Brandon Harrison are all on IR .
Seems every week teams try to match up their best reciever against Faggins . And every week the coaches keep sending him out there with limited help over the top ..... could that be why he gives recievers a 5-7 yard cushion ?
Yes , Steve Smith had 3 TD's in last weeks game .... one of which was a highlight reel catch in the end zone tipping the ball to himself .... Faggins had excelent position on the play ..... Smith just made a great play . On one of the others about 5 guy's failed to tackle him after a mediocre gain .... just another great play from Smith .
Take away that play and Smith had a good game but nothing to bellow about . (7 catches for 79 yards . 11.3 avg)
As for the final catch that Harrison made for a first down essentially killing the Texans chances .... Its the coaches who call the plays and put the players in position prior to the snap not the other way around . Ive yet to see a Defensive Coordinator record a sack or interception ..... The coaches had to know better than giving Harrison a 7 yard cushion in that situatoin .
Maybe some of you guy's had Marvin Harrison on your fantasy teams this week and are kinda pissed he didnt do more ..... but when Harrison lines up against the Texans I'll take 6 catches for 53 yards and no TD's from my DB every week .
Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark had a bigger impact on this game than Harrison ....
You Armchair Cornerbacks need to find another scapegoat
Have you watched the Texans in previous years?
We don't call out Faggins for our health. He is a nice guy and we want him to succeed for the good of our team.
Your post is nothing more than a huge excuse to why Faggins hasn't played that well. There is no need to go over all of the reasons that we need a new CB2. Just read over all of the other comments.
You Armchair Cornerbacks need to find another scapegoat
I tried to tell them.
Shaft75
All Pro
CB's assigned to the same sides of the field...
Yes , Ive watched since day one ....This team had the same problems last season .
Actually I was going over the reasons that the Texans need to get a safety that can cover .
When that happens Faggins wont be on an island every play , Or would you rather see CC Brown one on one with Harrison ? Only if you are a Dolts fan .
Go figure ...R. Smith has aquired two players since training camp in the secondary neither are corners . If Faggins is the problem Wouldnt Smith have signed one of those rejects that were cut by the other 31 NFL teams ? They are all better than Faggins ......
Defense is played by 11 men and when one thing doesnt work it breaks something else .... Having safey's who cant recognize and react in coverage means CB's give a bigger cushion LB's fall into coverage rather than blitzing .... Kinda like when the D-line cant get the job done the D-backs look horrible , LB's make tackles 5-6 yards down field rather than at the line of scrimage one feeds off of the other .
The sooner people figure out that the NFL aint Madden ....
shinerbock_girl
All Pro
It sure was frustrating though watching him not be able to cover guys....He has got to really start stepping up....
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Yes , Ive watched since day one ....This team had the same problems last season .
Actually I was going over the reasons that the Texans need to get a safety that can cover .
When that happens Faggins wont be on an island every play , Or would you rather see CC Brown one on one with Harrison ? Only if you are a Dolts fan .
Go figure ...R. Smith has aquired two players since training camp in the secondary neither are corners . If Faggins is the problem Wouldnt Smith have signed one of those rejects that were cut by the other 31 NFL teams ? They are all better than Faggins ......
Defense is played by 11 men and when one thing doesnt work it breaks something else .... Having safey's who cant recognize and react in coverage means CB's give a bigger cushion LB's fall into coverage rather than blitzing .... Kinda like when the D-line cant get the job done the D-backs look horrible , LB's make tackles 5-6 yards down field rather than at the line of scrimage one feeds off of the other .
The sooner people figure out that the NFL aint Madden ....
While I also think we need to upgrade the S spots, Faggins coverage (or lack of) had nothing to do with the safety play. Faggins wasn't getting beat deep, he was getting abused on the intermediate passes........that has nothing to do with the safeties.
Your right about the Defense, it is played by 11 men and everybody has to do their job, Faggins is failing at his job.
Faggins needs to step up and elevate his play or sit down on the bench, its really not that complicated and this is a message board, so when people have opinions it has nothing to do with a video game.
I have to disagree on that statement . You have to remember who Faggins was lining up against and who was playin catch with that Harrison guy . Again that was Peyton Manning .
I'd give ya 20to1 that Faggins was told by the coaches in no uncertian terms to give him a cushion , keep everything in front of you and wrap up when ya tackle .
Let me repeat again Harrisons pedestrian numbers ..... 6 receptions for 53 yards and no TD's . An 8.8 avg per catch . Peety had 5 tackles and two assists . Seems to me he did exactly that .
Yes I realize he gave up several catches but thats because he has to give the reciever a big cushion .... why ? Because When he gets beat (this is Manning and Harrision we're talkin about here) he cant expect any help because the safety makes poor reads and takes bad angles .
For those who are still looking for excuses or a scapegoat here's a few stats ...
2 Turnovers . Two Ints one of which was in the red zone the Colts subsequent drive ended in a field goal . The other gave the Colts the ball at the Houston 21 and resulted in a TD . The Colts had No Turnovers.
40 Net yards rushing on 17 plays for the Texans .
Average Gain per Rushing Play 2.4
3 sacks allowed by the Texans for 22 yards . Manning was sacked Once for a whopping 3 yard loss .
That doesnt look like a blueprint for beating the Dolts to me .
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
I'm not bashing Faggins just on his performance against Indy........this goes back to last week and the fact that our coaches have to tell him to give cushions like that (I doubt that was how he was supposed to play on the critical 3rd down though.) just shows how out matched he is going up against good receivers, and again, I could care less about the stats, it seems everytime the Colts needed a key play they threw and picked on Faggins. I'm not looking for a scapegoat.......I'm looking for somebody to step up and give a better performance.
bah007
Hall of Fame
Even if we had put Dunta on Harrison it wouldnt matter.
Manning is gonna look at Harrison first no matter who is covering him.
The guy is one of the top 3 WRs of all time (Jerry Rice, Cris Carter, Marvin Harrison [yea, he belongs there]) & we complain when a 6th round pick gives him 50 yds in a game.
eriadoc
Texan-American
You forgot Lee Evans, Drew Bennett, and Coles/Cotchery, just off the top of my head. And as I get older, my memory gets hazy, but I believe Faggins would be willing to have Ryan Fitzpatrick inducted into the HoF as well. Just sayin'.
Exithios
Waterboy
I will not knock Petey for his performance, after-all, he is a 6th round pick as well as a nickelback.
My complaint is that the #2 corner position has been a glaring weakness in our secondary since last season and we made no attempt at upgrading it this past off-season. The weakness in the position has, once again, become glaring and something must be done.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Easy to say but harder to do. Who were you going to get that is better than Faggins?
Nate Clements--not enough cap space.
Jason David--aka Manning's punching bag the other night far worse than Faggins was.
Nick Harper--a 33 year old who the Colts have been trying to replace for years.
They took a CB in the 4th. The only way they could have done more in the draft is give up Okoye or Jacoby.
R
real
Guest
I dunno...
I think considering all the areas we were weak at, Kubes an CO. did a good job at making the roster competitive.
You can't fill every position with top notched players in one off-season.
I think considering all the areas we were weak at, Kubes an CO. did a good job at making the roster competitive.
You can't fill every position with top notched players in one off-season.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
I agree. Especially with the limited amount of cap we had. I would assume there will be soime jack to throw around in the off-season.
Anywho, I'm still enjoying the season at hand with the players we presently have on our roster. I'll think about the possible off-season additions....in the off-season.
You be sure to watch the Colts and Bronco's next week and pay special attention to how Champ Bailey or Dre Bly line up when they are matched up with Harrison. Those are two of the NFL's best and they will give Harrison that same 5-7 yards .
Three of Harrisons 6 catches were on 3rd down according to the game logs on NFL.com.
I agree. Especially with the limited amount of cap we had. I would assume there will be some jack to throw around in the off-season.
Anywho, I'm still enjoying the season at hand with the players we presently have on our roster. I'll think about the possible off-season additions....in the off-season.
They should be well under the cap for the next FA period as several contracts come off the books including David Carr's extention , Garry Walker , Bennie Joppru , Zach Wiegert , Seth Wand and Domanick Davis errr Williams to list a few .
HJam72
Hall of Fame
Here's a good link for this discussion.
http://www.houstonprofootball.com/scout/scout150.html
http://www.houstonprofootball.com/scout/scout150.html
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
We drafted Bennett and signed Jamar Fletcher. I'm not sure what your idea of "no attempt" is, but I think a lot was done to improve the CB play this off-season, especially considering the cap hell we were in.
Exithios
Waterboy
If alot was done to "improve our corner back play" then why is the same old tired nickel corner still starting at #2? Not much improvement, just more weight on the pine. Please explain this improvement that I have blindly failed to see...
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
once again, we drafted Bennett with our 3rd pick (after Okoye and J.Jones... who would you not want right now) and signed Jamar Fletcher...
This off-season we had no money and got a QB, RB, OL depth, re-signed Andre Johnson, DT, LB help, WR help.
What would you've done differently? I'd say spending a middle round pick and getting an ex 1st round CB via FA is doing something!
Yet again the players brought in couldnt beat Peety out . The coaches keep running Peety out there to cover the likes of Steve Smith and Marvin Harrison ..... there has to be a reason for their decision . Could it be that Peety gives them the best chance to win now ? No No ..... those coaches must be idiots.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Once again you dodge the question. It isn't enough to just say they should have done more--say specifically what should have been done.
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
I have always hated arguements where someone blast what you have done but wont say what they would have done differently .................
This is exactly what espin does every year at draft time and right before training camp starts.
Thanks Mel Kiper jr for your insight.
Exithios
Waterboy
Unfortunately I work for a living and can not hover over my posts while on the clock. So I apologize that you all have been so impatiently awaiting my response (I almost feel special 
).
I never suggested that we could have made a better move in the off season, I merely pointed out that what we did do obviously was not an improvement.
And my suggestion that we made no attempt at fixing the #2 cb spot was, admittedly, out of line. Our 4th round pick and our acquired former first rounder that has never lived up to his potential were, technically, attempts.
As for what I would do, move him around in the secondary so that the same spot on the field isn't exposed every single down.
).I never suggested that we could have made a better move in the off season, I merely pointed out that what we did do obviously was not an improvement.
And my suggestion that we made no attempt at fixing the #2 cb spot was, admittedly, out of line. Our 4th round pick and our acquired former first rounder that has never lived up to his potential were, technically, attempts.
As for what I would do, move him around in the secondary so that the same spot on the field isn't exposed every single down.
Um, the game plan was to make them drive for everything, and we did make them drive. They earned their points and thats how it goes. Think about the same gameplan with our freakin offensive options 1-4? If we arent on option 5 by the start of the 4th quarter, its a different game. So, with "crappy" Faggins, we still had a shot. Not all him. Point at the Safties first, thats the weakness.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Most teams no longer have CB's play WR's but instead have them play sides. Supposedly this is to not divulge the coverage and not allow the O to manipulate the D through motion. I agree though that something has to be done to not allow the O to consistently choose to put their #1 WR against our #2 CB.
Maybe our #2 CB problem isn't as bad as you(and many others) think it is.
Now let's think about this for a minute.
One of the greatest of all time(Marvin Harris) held to 53 yards. That is not a good day for any receiver. Imagine that was T.O. or Chad Johnson.
No TDs... again, imagine that was Terrell Owens.. even with the win, do you think he'd be happy?? I doubt it.
Now maybe you saw a lot of catches being made, and Petey being the first one to make the tackle, or at least he was in the Vicinity.
Dallas Clark, & Anthony Gonzales were upsetting me more than anything. Our LBs bit on the Play-Action like our safeties used to. Was Bulware playing safety or LB?? Because he got beat by Clark on the line for the Colts first TD(made it look stupid easy).
& Reggie Wayne had 4 catches for 84 yards, and a touchdown. Was that Faggins as well?? I remember seeing Dunta eating a little dirt as Reggie ran past him.
But I don't mind getting beat ever now and again by one of the best WR duo in the league today(Chad and Houshmanzadah is the other duo). But to let Clark, Gonzales, & Addai beat us is unacceptable in my book.
Our LBs need to get better at reading run/pass, and they can't cover worth a $@#t.
Petey played well against Carolina... yes he did. Sure Steve Smith scored twice on him. But not because Petey got burnt. Because Smith got lucky. & they were down by three scores when Smith made his 3rd TD, and our entire secondary got burned.
But the rest of that game, Delhomme had a hard time finding anyone to throw the ball to.
And Damon Huard struggled with it as well.
I predict we will continue to struggle with teams that have a strong intermediate passing game. Most of your West Coast teams. and teams that want to stretch the field, and play vertical will have a hard time with us. Dallas, Carolina, KC.
Because our LBs can't cover.
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
Well that makes two of us. They were cap strapped to start with. They didn't have a two and Okoye fell into their laps. They made this decision back in April. Now they've watched the guys play and practice for five months....and WTF they are telling you ....believe it or not...is that Pettie is their best option.
Here's hoping Pettie doesnt go down and some of you hard heads don't get to live the "why" of their decision. What I've seen the first three games is a guy playing way above his head and giving his very best. Can't ask any more from a man than that. If the resluts are not to your liking that's your problem not the Texan's. They put the very best product they could on the feild under their circumstance last off season. Crying about it for the next three months isn't going to accomplish anything. Either you trust them or you don't. I trust kubiak at his word. They didn't have the eighty million to buy one and there wasn't one after the third who was going to start for you in '07. That's the bottom line with Pettie.
http://forums.houstontexans.com/showpost.php?p=585300
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
you're throwing perls befor the swine there DM. The blood is in the water and the whipping post has been lonesome since DC left town.
Er, not to bang, however...
73 Jacoby Jones WR Lane Houston Texans
123 Fred Bennett CB South Carolina Houston Texans
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft
So basically what they are calling for is a redraft ? So which CB and where do you sacrifice Okoye or J.J. for ? Well herd I just don't see it.
Some folks just gotta whine. Like Beerlover stated, they'll fix it in the '08 off season.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Why? Did you see Fletcher playing any better then Faggins?
Cause if you did you wern't watching the same game I was.