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Wow 92 % believes DC wasn't the main problem. Who 'd of thunk it ?
Would most of the Texans fans disagree?
I only say that b/c ESPN has strong influence over the casual fan...and I think perception and reality aren't all that close often times with regards to matters regarding teams that someone doesn't follow. I know I'd always heard that the problem in Houston was the O-line...however in talking to Texans fans...a ton of them seem to argue that Carr was the cause of many of those sacks. However, that 92% just goes off of what they heard more than anything. I can honestly say I was one of them as the last Texans game I actually saw was in '04.
Wow 92 % believes DC wasn't the main problem. Who 'd of thunk it ?
Doesn't this kind of contradict itself?2) Is Carr most to blame for the Texans' struggles?
92.1% No
7.9% Yes
3) Does Matt Schaub give the Texans a better chance to win?
61.9% Yes
38.1% No
Maybe the general NFL fan base knows more about Capers/Casserly than I thought!
While Carr never developed the way I hoped he would, I lay more blame on the former administration for making way too many bad decisions. One that comes to mind is letting Sharper and Glenn get away with the idea P-Buc could replace them. Going further back, I never understood us getting a starting left tackle that had a questionable medical status.
Ahh, well... that was then, this is now, and so far I like the way the new administration is running things.
Would most of the Texans fans disagree?
Doesn't this kind of contradict itself?
Titan "Tack" Fan;646511 said:In related news, today I asked a random Raider fan at a bookstore who he wants them to draft and he said, "I want us to sign David Carr and draft the kid out of Georgia Tech."
Thought that was interesting.
I would agree, that none of it is his fault. He got the crap beat out of him because of our ineptitude to manage his career.
The only problem I've had with David Carr, was that for years, he was being crammed down our throat as our best chance to win, & I don't believe he has been, ever.
I was fine with the role he was in last year, and I would have been fine if Kubiak decided to continue on, with David in that role. Our developing QB, regardless of his time in the league.
I was actually shocked by the events of this off-season.
I do believe that this team stands a better chance of winning with a new QB. Not that David caused us to lose a lot of games, but because we weren't very competitive with David behind center.
He's been a rookie QB for 5 years(not his fault), and I'm happy that our new QB is not a rookie. I understand there will still be some developing going on, but nothing like we've seen.
Titan "Tack" Fan;646511 said:In related news, today I asked a random Raider fan at a bookstore who he wants them to draft and he said, "I want us to sign David Carr and draft the kid out of Georgia Tech."
Thought that was interesting.
Wow 92 % believes DC wasn't the main problem. Who 'd of thunk it ?
Titan "Tack" Fan;646511 said:In related news, today I asked a random Raider fan at a bookstore who he wants them to draft and he said, "I want us to sign David Carr and draft the kid out of Georgia Tech."
Thought that was interesting.
Same thing where I live...most of the Raider Nation I've met want him.
"I would agree, that none of it is his fault"
Unreal. This is why David plays the way he does...he is not self-motivated, listens/accepts the excuses for his poor play,gets worse with his mechanics,lets his team mates take all the blame for the losses,gets his pay check, and goes play golf--wow, the life of a 'done wrong NFL qb.'
What will the next chapter be?...'second verse, same as the first'...only shorter next time....??
...pass me a hankie please
The Raiders saw him pass for negative yardage in person.
Same thing where I live...most of the Raider Nation I've met want him.
Carr was not most to blame for our failures
Wow 92 % believes DC wasn't the main problem. Who 'd of thunk it ?
Maybe I'm just loyal to a fault but I've always backed my team since day one. The moves they made that I didnt understand I chalked up to the decission makers having a better football mind than your's truley. When those decissions turned out to be obviously wrong I would look to see how our team from the top down learned and improved from the mistakes made. Looking back, it's easy to say that we should of sat Carr for a year and give him a veteran to understudy. But every player is different and progress and become motivated (and vise versa) by different situations. Sitting Carr for a year would of given him time to learn the speed of the game and possibly given him more confidence in the pocket but he was the face of our franchise. This is a business and Mr. McNair, as badley as he wants to win, wants to make money and fill the seats at the same time. Fans wanted to see our new team with our superstar #1 draft pick so he was thrown to the wolves... and he got eaten alive. I always had hope for him and every other player and coach involved with our team. Seeing the end of the Capers / Casserly era was bitter sweet for me. I knew deep down that it was time for a change but it hurt too. Putting all of my faith blindley behind my team only to be let down time and time again was a hard pill to swallow. Admitting failure and moving on isnt always easy. Now we have Schaub and once again I'm buying what they're selling me. I have hope and confidence that the right people are making decissions that will bring the only team I've ever loved from before they had a name a championship. Schaub is a big ? for me. I'm sure he is for everyone but if Kubiac and co. say he can get the job done then I think he can too. Texas, football, Houston and Houstonians are far too kickass to ever be held down for long. We make the sport of kings a gentleman's game. I'll be proud to say I've loved this team since their birth. The best times are only good because of how bad the worst times have been. Lets see how this rollercoaster of a season plays out.
-Just Jephrey
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10092097
...sounds like someone needs to start a write-up campaign to Davis, using all of Carr's supporters/sub-supporters,etc. Heck, HC Kiffen was David's room mate in college...surely that counts for something...times a wastin'
Wow 92 % believes DC wasn't the main problem. Who 'd of thunk it ?
Yep, looks like Hulk75 has been busy over there.
Titan "Tack" Fan;647746 said:The falcons have never had back to back winning seasons. Pretty lame.
LOL.
Good one.
He must also be the person who votes for Sanjaya on American Idol each week.
I see the connection there. "It's not Sanjaya's fault! The judges are just a bunch of haters!"
Unfortunately, neither have we. But they've had a lot more opportunities and hopefully by our 30th-40th season, we'll at least have 1 winning season and put a couple of those back to back.
1) Was it time to for the Texans to part ways with David Carr?
55.7% Yes
44.3% No
2) Is Carr most to blame for the Texans' struggles?
92.1% No
7.9% Yes
3) Does Matt Schaub give the Texans a better chance to win?
62.3% Yes
37.7% No
4) Does Carr still have a future as a starting quarterback in the NFL?
87.3% Yes
12.7% No
5) Did the Falcons make a mistake by trading Schaub and committing to Michael Vick?
61.0% Yes
39.0% No
6) Which quarterback would give the Falcons the best chance at reaching the Super Bowl?
55.1% Matt Schaub
44.9% Michael Vick
7) Which of the following statements best describes your thoughts on Vick?
59.5% He's tremendously talented, but doesn't have what it takes to win a championship.
30.6% As good as he is, he needs a better supporting cast if the Falcons are to win a title.
9.9% He's only 26 years old and is getting better. He will win a title before his career is over.
8) If Carr leaves the Texans, which NFL franchise would be the best fit for him?
37.9% Miami Dolphins
17.3% Minnesota Vikings
13.1% Detroit Lions
12.2% Other
10.9% Tampa Bay Buccaneers
8.6% Cleveland Browns
9) Which team got the better end of this deal?
61.1% Houston
38.9% Atlanta
Total Votes: 21,517