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Carr and Domanick Williams Released

TwinSisters said:
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Liberty! Revolution!

Good bye King David, Long Live El Presidente Schaub!

The Mob rules.
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Classic!
 
:yikes:
I am still trying to get over the shock of these two releases. That being said WTF WTF WTF, I mean honestly now is there no way we couldn't get some draft picks even if its in next years draft. This sickens me, we let go of a pretty decent QB and a RB that .... ummm welll hmmm ok freeloaded off the TEXANS all year long. Still we could of did a package deal w/ a team. :cry2:
 
SESupergenius said:
They showed their cards too early. Of course they had to release him, if a team knows the Texans are going to release Carr and not keep him, no way they would make an offer for him with draft picks and other compensation I'm telling you, the Texans just don't know how to play poker.
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Agree with this and Drob running his mouth off on cold pizza did not help us either.
 
Everyone thought I was an ***** when I throught the deal Casserly gave Davis/Williams was stupid. Why wasnt I hired over Casserly???

The dead money keeps building.
 
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That is all. Thank you.
 
Cupps said:
It was a good run, no matter what anyone else (read: Carr Haters) have to say. I'm happy to be moving in a new direction, but said to see our first leader leave.

Good luck, and I, for one, hope to see him find success somewhere else. I will always remember 19-10. And no one can deny that Carr was full of class, and always did everything in his power for this city and this team.
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it was a good run?!?!? are you freaking kidding me....

oh and he DIDNT do everything in his power to help this city or team because if he did he would still be here. he sucked and wouldnt even reneg his contract to make it more market value to help 'the team'

whatever, he sucked and anyone who cares about the team and not some little fairy choir boy know that I speak the truth

as for Domanick, see ya Dom. Hope you enjoyed the new contract that you never even earned....at least you had an excuse....what is Carr's excuse?

oh wait, I have been hearing excuses for 5 years...well it ends today

HOORAY

HALLELUJAH

don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya, Carr

haha....now all the cali carr cartel can find another forum to whine on

all the Carr Homers now see that the rest of the league doesnt want him either...maybe you losers were wrong all along

consider yourself pwned
 
Andrew6 said:
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I am still trying to get over the shock of these two releases. That being said WTF WTF WTF, I mean honestly now is there no way we couldn't get some draft picks even if its in next years draft. This sickens me, we let go of a pretty decent QB and a RB that .... ummm welll hmmm ok freeloaded off the TEXANS all year long. Still we could of did a package deal w/ a team. :cry2:
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If by package deal you mean another beer vendor then yes probably.. But both are broken beyond repair..
 
I suspect the Texans knews the odds were pretty high they would have to release Carr if they traded for Schaub first. They also knew they would have high odds of cutting Carr if they drafted Quinn, for the same reason.

Apparently they must have also felt they would lose Schaub and have no real QB option if they didn't go after him when they did (probably high odds the Falcons trade Schaub prior to the draft to get picks to move up) and did not like getting a bench sitting rookie facing that reality.

For the first time though, this is a statement that Kubiak and Smith are going to bang or bust their jobs with the personnel they want to play with and not the previous regime's. Probably neither liked the idea of staking their careers on a raw rookie or Sage's shoulders with decent potential of a bombing season next year. Instead they felt they would rather stake the season and their jobs on someone they could place their claim on in Schaub. Good luck to them on that.
Takes guts to do that. I can't blame them for want to bet their jobs on players they believe in rather then players they were stuck with from someone else's regime.
 
Fiddy said:
Everyone thought I was an ***** when I throught the deal Casserly gave Davis/Williams was stupid. Why wasnt I hired over Casserly???

The dead money keeps building.
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If your reason had been that he would have a career ending knee injury, then you could rightfully pat yourself on the back.
 
SESupergenius said:
They showed their cards too early. Of course they had to release him, if a team knows the Texans are going to release Carr and not keep him, no way they would make an offer for him with draft picks and other compensation I'm telling you, the Texans just don't know how to play poker.
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Nope .... they had a bad hand .
 
Tx'nFanLostInSkinCountry said:
So long DC you will always be known as the 1 QB for the Houston Texans. Wish you and your family all the best. Good Luck with your future team.
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haha what a tool. why not have a candlelight vigil in remembrance of him? what a bunch of losers these carr homers are...

well he isnt on the Texans anymore so please let the homering cease...he sucked...end of story...move on and find another choirboy to worship....

DUNTA FOR PRESIDENT
 
BigCraig51 said:
For one, Romo played half a season, (his first TD pass was against the TEXANS!) and still had better stats than David Carr. Everyone said it was all the O-Lines fault that Bledsoe sucked but it was just that he was the freaking Statue of Liberty and wouldn't get out of the way (like David Carr). But when Romo came in all criticism of the line stopped. It will be the same way with the Texans.

Just to be fair, it's not Carr's fault. He never had anyone to guide him, he had unrealistic expectations put on him, and being sacked 249 times doesn't help anything (not counting knockdowns). He might have been a crappy QB for the Texans but I expect him to do good for another NFL team. He is a class act and is not done.
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Hey, buddy. I was just saying I don't really think much of Romo. On a Houston football site, it seemed safe to bash another teams quarterback. What I didn't expect was bashing another teams quarterback, and getting attacked as a Carr-basher.

If you read any of my posts in the last hour, they all say about the same thing - it was time for everyone to move on, let's get excited, and everyone will be happy when we start winning.

Except for this post. So, let me stress that one more time - ROMO IS OVERRATED!
 
infantrycak said:
If your reason had been that he would have a career ending knee injury, then you could rightfully pat yourself on the back.
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they did extend his contract a year sooner than they had to....what the hell was Casserley worried about? but he at least earned his money when healthy..
 
as glad as i am to see carr leave out of this organization...another dumb*** move by the FO. someone mentioned earlier that even detroit got a 6th for harrington. the texans could at least have gotten a 3rd or a 4th. well...what do you expect?
 
humbleone said:
Agree with this and Drob running his mouth off on cold pizza did not help us either.
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Come on guys. You don't think he was on the block ALL off-season. They showed their cards because they had no other options and wanted him gone before the draft. There was no deal to make so they did the only thing they could. I think Minny's coach was pretty dead on and many agreed...especially for the price.
 
HoustonFrog said:
I just remembered that I will be drawn to sports talk radio like a moth to a flame today and can't wait to hear "Hey guys, first time long time..is there anyway we can now resign Dave as the backup for a cheaper price..thanks I'll hang up and listen.":)

I'm sure his agent can work out a deal with TGFHaircutters for spokesmodel work. They can give a 2nd rounder to Super Cuts...sorry had to one last time.
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Thanks for the idea. Thanks, I'll sign off and read.:joker:
 
michaelm said:
Damn, Marcus... you seem pretty upset that Rick mislead you...
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C'mon man! I'm not upset at all. It's just that when I heard him say that, I remarked out loud to a friend of mine, "I hope he doesn't regret saying say that". And then when I get to the MB, there's a thread jumping all over what he said.

Actually, I'm thrilled to death with what has taken place.
 
bigTEXan8 said:
as glad as i am to see carr leave out of this organization...another dumb*** move by the FO. someone mentioned earlier that even detroit got a 6th for harrington. the texans could at least have gotten a 3rd or a 4th. well...what do you expect
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But they didn't.

Because nobody wanted him.
 
I honestly believe that some people think that Rick Smith called around the NFL this morning looking to see what was available for Carr, and he found that somebody was willing to give us a _______ round draft pick...and Smith said no.

Open your eyes, if Smith counldn't trade Carr, it's only because nobody offered anything for him.
 
hate to see two guys like these go but it's to make the team better. I hope Carr can be successful elsewhere and hope Dom can regain his health and hopefully be able to play.
 
Fiddy said:
Everyone thought I was an ***** when I throught the deal Casserly gave Davis/Williams was stupid. Why wasnt I hired over Casserly???

The dead money keeps building.
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Since this is a June 1st cut I do not think it is really that much dead money and DW loses his roster bonus he would have gotten other wise.
 
Lucky said:
I don't think this was Smith's call. Smith would have held on to Carr until the draft in the remote chance that a team that came up empty on a QB would give up a pick.

This had to be McNair's decision. I wouldn't be surprised if Carr had talked directly to McNair and asked for a release. This was David's best chance to get another gig.
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I can believe this.

Even though Carr wasn't successfull here it appears McNair still respects the guy. I know I do.

It was McNairs money that funded Carrs contract.

Unlike the Carr haters around here that continue to take cheap shots at a guy who has too much class to get involved in a spitting match.

Some I expected, some posters have suprised me with their comments.

The Texan organization has decided to move on, why can't the haters.

:twocents:

:fans: :gotexans1

:coffee:
 
rafterticket said:
Hey, buddy. I was just saying I don't really think much of Romo. On a Houston football site, it seemed safe to bash another teams quarterback. What I didn't expect was bashing another teams quarterback, and getting attacked as a Carr-basher.

If you read any of my posts in the last hour, they all say about the same thing - it was time for everyone to move on, let's get excited, and everyone will be happy when we start winning.

Except for this post. So, let me stress that one more time - ROMO IS OVERRATED!
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Hey, nothin against you for anything. Dallas bashing is accepted decorum on a Texans dis. board. Just stating the facts. Never said Romo was the savior of the Cowboys. Overrated maybe, better than Carr, definately! Someone did say that the Cowboys need a #2 quarterback and I agree. I don't like "elbow pads" Brad Johnson. David Carr would be a good backup for the Cowboys but I think he is a starter, just not for the Texans. P.S. Romo still hasn't gotten a new contract so it's a good chance the ***** Jerry Jones thinks he might be overrated too.
 
The majority of our fanbase totally overvalued the guy. If it was anyone else, Houston would have run him out of town on a rail years ago. But, the Golden Boy has an aura of invicibility about him, and somehow has managed to cast a spell over a bunch of people who don't know good QB play because they have never seen it. Folks, you are about to see it in 2007. Strap up, cause this ship is blasting off in 2007! :victory: :snobord: :yahoo:
 
I wonder if this thread length will equal the David Carr is gone thread from last week. only got about 800 more posts to go. Everyone do your part.
 
I am just stunned.

My head hurts.

Did David need to go? Yes.

Is this good for the team to move forward? Yes.

Its just how it was handled.

What was RS doing? Trying to sign and trade at the same time? Trade first then sign. Once we signed Schaub it was over.

IMO Robinson opening his mouth on national TV submarined any chance of getting anything for Carr.

Every team in the NFL believed RS when he said that Carr really was coming back and was the starting QB. He still had value. Then dumb dumb goes on national TV and talks about how Carr should go and everything went right out the window.

Could've had Peppers, Could've had Leinart or Young. Instead of having any of that we lose two picks and two spots in the draft and got nothing for a #1 over all pick. Plus the Texans spent over $40million.

Sorry to sound so negative.

Could a, would a, should a, right?
 
This move makes no sense to me. I would have cost nothing more to wait to cut Carr until after the draft (unless there is some sort of roster bonus due before then?). You never know what could happen at the draft- maybe a team that was really hoping for a QB couldn't get one like Cleveland really wants Quinn but he goes #2 to Detriot or Miami really wants Stanton but he goes before their second pick. Then we could have traded for a late 2008 draft pick even if we had to pay some of David's salary. As long as we pay equal or less than the amount of the cap hit for releasing him we would have come out ahead.
 
Porky said:
The majority of our fanbase totally overvalued the guy. If it was anyone else, Houston would have run him out of town on a rail years ago. But, the Golden Boy has an aura of invicibility about him, and somehow has managed to cast a spell over a bunch of people who don't know good QB play because they have never seen it. Folks, you are about to see it in 2007. Strap up, cause this ship is blasting off in 2007! :victory: :snobord: :yahoo:
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I hope so.
 
Porky said:
The majority of our fanbase totally overvalued the guy. If it was anyone else, Houston would have run him out of town on a rail years ago. But, the Golden Boy has an aura of invicibility about him, and somehow has managed to cast a spell over a bunch of people who don't know good QB play because they have never seen it. Folks, you are about to see it in 2007. Strap up, cause this ship is blasting off in 2007! :victory: :snobord: :yahoo:
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Damn Porky! If I didn't know any better, I'd say you're quite excited! ;)
 
As a life long Texans fan, its definitely a new day for all us and long time coming as well. I wished this day couldn't have come sooner. At least now I am exited about the direction this team is headed. Sometimes you just have to take the hit and move on.

On other note: I really like to see the Texans take all the dead cap hit this year so we won't have any dead money next year and if possible may be trade down in this year draft and pick up few more draft picks that we lost.
 
NRowl said:
This move makes no sense to me. I would have cost nothing more to wait to cut Carr until after the draft (unless there is some sort of roster bonus due before then?). You never know what could happen at the draft- maybe a team that was really hoping for a QB couldn't get one like Cleveland really wants Quinn but he goes #2 to Detriot or Miami really wants Stanton but he goes before their second pick. Then we could have traded for a late 2008 draft pick even if we had to pay some of David's salary. As long as we pay equal or less than the amount of the cap hit for releasing him we would have come out ahead.
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After the draft the teams that needed Qbs wouldn't need them anymore cause they would've drafted one. This is what the draft is for you know.
 
cuppacoffee said:
I can believe this.

Even though Carr wasn't successfull here it appears McNair still respects the guy. I know I do.

It was McNairs money that funded Carrs contract.

Unlike the Carr haters around here that continue to take cheap shots at a guy who has too much class to get involved in a spitting match.

Some I expected, some posters have suprised me with their comments.

The Texan organization has decided to move on, why can't the haters.

:twocents:

:fans: :gotexans1

:coffee:
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Actually it has seemed pretty tame to me compared to what I expected. I think many people are just exasperrated with the fact that last week the board had people yelling that others had to accept he was coming back when all along that was never the plan. I don't think anyone pays attention until the "hater" word comes out.
 
Lucky said:
I don't think this was Smith's call. Smith would have held on to Carr until the draft in the remote chance that a team that came up empty on a QB would give up a pick.

This had to be McNair's decision. I wouldn't be surprised if Carr had talked directly to McNair and asked for a release. This was David's best chance to get another gig.
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Insightful comment, Lucky. Agree.
 
Porky said:
The majority of our fanbase totally overvalued the guy. If it was anyone else, Houston would have run him out of town on a rail years ago. But, the Golden Boy has an aura of invicibility about him, and somehow has managed to cast a spell over a bunch of people who don't know good QB play because they have never seen it. Folks, you are about to see it in 2007. Strap up, cause this ship is blasting off in 2007! :victory: :snobord: :yahoo:
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The Texans were spinning Carr's game for years. That's why I called it the Emperor's New Clothing regime for a while....its like nobody would tell Bob McNair and the fans anything except what he/they wanted to hear, and let's face it, many fans backed Carr solely because of the fact that McNair supported him. Marketing was more important than what happened on the field. It's time to turn the corner and stop being an expansion team.
 
TEXANRED said:
I am just stunned.

My head hurts.

Did David need to go? Yes.

Is this good for the team to move forward? Yes.

Its just how it was handled.

What was RS doing? Trying to sign and trade at the same time? Trade first then sign. Once we signed Schaub it was over.

IMO Robinson opening his mouth on national TV submarined any chance of getting anything for Carr.

Every team in the NFL believed RS when he said that Carr really was coming back and was the starting QB. He still had value. Then dumb dumb goes on national TV and talks about how Carr should go and everything went right out the window.

Could've had Peppers, Could've had Leinart or Young. Instead of having any of that we lose two picks and two spots in the draft and got nothing for a #1 over all pick. Plus the Texans spent over $40million.

Sorry to sound so negative.

Could a, would a, should a, right?
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I'd call it looking back, instead of looking forward. Turn the page, and move on.
 
cuppacoffee said:
I can believe this.

Even though Carr wasn't successfull here it appears McNair still respects the guy. I know I do.

It was McNairs money that funded Carrs contract.

Unlike the Carr haters around here that continue to take cheap shots at a guy who has too much class to get involved in a spitting match.

Some I expected, some posters have suprised me with their comments.

The Texan organization has decided to move on, why can't the haters.

:twocents:

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Well said.
 
Okay, I'll come out and admit it...I'm Carr's neighbor's cousin's paperboy's classmate and I just supported this team through him. It's time I take my leave.
 
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