TexanSam
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It's not like someone said "a source I can't name told me this". It's probably not true, but it was said on NFL Blitz on ESPN. Just ignore the thread if you don't like the rumor.
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Carr traded to Oakland? (Unfounded rumor)
- Thread starter Maverick864
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It's not like someone said "a source I can't name told me this". It's probably not true, but it was said on NFL Blitz on ESPN. Just ignore the thread if you don't like the rumor.
dirty steve
Veteran
i just watched a full 30 minute block of it and there is no mention, much less any draft talk. i think there some serious leg pulling going on.
mike moffat
All Pro
Ain't gonna happen.
dwilt72
Waterboy
Uh...maybe because he can't blame worth a crap?
Navy_Chris
Rookie
What a pessimist you are!
Calvin Johnson would be that explosive addition that we need on offense. I knew receiver would be on our wish list, but I didn't know we wanted Johnson all along. This is great!
michaelm
vox nihili
Time for a Perspective Check..!
This is the third page of replies to a post started by a member who still, even after these three pages, doesn't have a second post on these boards.
If you all want to speculate on unlikely scenarios, I say have a blast, but please stop acting as if this thread is based on anything other than fantasy...
You guys a worse that the dead people in "The Sixth Sense"
"They don't know they're dead... they only see what they want to see..."
This is the third page of replies to a post started by a member who still, even after these three pages, doesn't have a second post on these boards.
If you all want to speculate on unlikely scenarios, I say have a blast, but please stop acting as if this thread is based on anything other than fantasy...
You guys a worse that the dead people in "The Sixth Sense"
"They don't know they're dead... they only see what they want to see..."
Wolf
100% Texan
gives them a story and says they were right
extend Carr's contract..no VY ...we get rid of Carr the year after...still no VY and ESPiN can say that the Texans were stupid and ESPiN was right.
supertankman
Noob
Man, I dont like it at all; Detroit should be enough evidence that a wide receiver tandem does not make you a better team.
Do you recall them drafting Charles Rogers before Andre Johnson (and where is he playing now?)
They also drafted Roy Williams in edition the following year I believe?
At anyrate, If we are going to trade our franchise QB away, do you not believe that we should get another one to replace him?
Unless they get Plummer in here to throw the ball to those guys, It would be a horrible season again
I think we take the BPA at #8 and keep Carr for one another year.
Do you recall them drafting Charles Rogers before Andre Johnson (and where is he playing now?)
They also drafted Roy Williams in edition the following year I believe?
At anyrate, If we are going to trade our franchise QB away, do you not believe that we should get another one to replace him?
Unless they get Plummer in here to throw the ball to those guys, It would be a horrible season again
I think we take the BPA at #8 and keep Carr for one another year.
dirty steve
Veteran
i dont think the rumor has any thread of truth to it. the Texans would likely have to give up their #1 + another day one pick and a high pick next year, then have two explosive talents at WR but nobody to throw it to. it doesnt even kind-of make sense. anybody who believes that will work needs to go apply as an understudy for Matt Millen in Detroit.
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
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Why hasn't a mod locked this thread yet?
Wolf
100% Texan
I personally don't believe anything that the media is spewing 67 or so days from the draft.. it is a big poker match right now
but It is raining and I don't watch much tv, so it gives me something to talk about
Navy_Chris
Rookie
Calvin Johnson's THAT good. Would you consider giving up an early round pick next year if that's what we had to do?
DRAMA
Rookie
FirstTexansFan
The Unknown Fan
BleedTheBurntOrange
Noob
Yes and that whole Detroit look at there receivers reply is true to a fault but look at those receivers theyre not as good as johnson and they dont have the character he does.
Charles rodgers is lazy and a drug abuser.
Mike williams is lazy and out of shape.
Only Roy willaims is any good and hes inconsistent.
Calvin johnson has a work ethic second to none and is a great model citizen.
I would give up an early round pick next year or this year for him cause players of his caliber come around only once in a decade so why not solidify WR for 10+ years with johnson&johnson and make secondaries actually scared to play us.
Thats if of course QB gets settled lol
Malloy
Hall of Fame
Uhm, the amount of posts are irrelevant if he is just quoting some news outlet.
MATRIX
Waterboy
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
For reals??!!
Vinny
shiny happy fan
It's a load of bunk....that's my cliff's notes resonse.
Texan_Aggie222
Noob
I just saw John Clayton on ESPN about an hour ago and the Texans didn't even make it into the dicussion. They were too busy talking about Donte Stallworth. Whoever posted this is out of their mind. I wouldn't object to the trade though, but it would never happen.
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
Because Chucky is in the cat birds seat. No matter who the first three are, he's going to fill a need. And if he really does love Ohkoye as much as reported, he could still move down if he gets offers. He'd be getting great vallue if Petterson and one of the QBs goes off the board in front of him. Chucky's drooling. He's not moving any where.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
if you don't like it...don't post in it. Pretend it isn't here perhaps.
dirty steve
Veteran
but you are in cap hell when it comes time to extend CJ, and drafting a WR in the first round still doesnt fill your bigger needs at offensive line and in the defensive backfield. i just think it would be a mistake...you guys have your opinions about other things and i have mine about this. your offensive line is in ALOT worse shape than your WR's.
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
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That's a very weak copout Vinny. Some random poster starts a thread about some ridiculous trade proposal which has absolutely no legs to stand on and you allow this topic to go on. It's hard to pretend it isn't there when it's been at the top of the forum all day. You of all people should know these types of threads have no place here. Perhaps everyone should start making up ridiculous rumors and posting them here?
supertankman
Noob
Well, I think its a very interesting topic regardless of if the rumor is true/false... I was very suprised how many people would love to see Carr traded so the texans could aquire another superstar wideout which made me post my thoughts on the subject. Its crazy to see how bad people want Carr gone!
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
A ridiculous rumor? The Raiders have many needs, one being QB. Carr is from California. They have been a trading partner with us in the past. Moreover, the thread has only been around since early this afternoon and many people are complaining about a title that poses a question. If people stopped posting in it, espcially those that would like it locked, it usually slips off the fornt page.
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
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Yes, it's a ridiculous rumor. Carr and the #8 pick for the #1 overall pick? Please, David Carr doesn't have that much trade value. Isn't it a bit odd that the only person who heard this "proposed trade" was the same person who started the thread and has not posted in it ever since?
Navy_Chris
Rookie
I agree that OL is a bigger problem. We also need an all star at DT before we need defensive backfield help. I just hope we don't draft Nelson or Landry without getting a dominant run stuffer.
Yup. New poster wants to start another never ending thread.
Malloy
Hall of Fame
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
SBT, you've been around the boards long enough to know that the time preceding the NFL draft is one fraught with speculation and conjecture. Yeah, some of the stuff people come up with is pretty far-out, but sometimes, these goofy things turn out to be true.
Koolaid Time
Drink Up!
Someone needs to drop it and step back from the crackpipe....
Al Davis is certifiable if he does this deal..
Very true. I wish it was just over already and the roster was set. I was just looking at TSN's mock draft and they have Kolb going before Quinn. Who knows?
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
I was just looking at TSN's mock draft and they have Kolb going before Quinn. Who knows?
so casserly is in charge of TSN now?
GP
Go Texans!
The only thing that's for sure is that Al Davis gets what Al Davis wants.
It really is fascinating to see that Al has as much "say" as he does. He is the owner, I understand that, but he can get who he wants. I can't see a modern GM getting Randy Moss, Warren Sapp, and Aaron Brooks and thinking that it works out great in the end. That's Al for you: He cares about the attitude and how it looks to get what he wants...and he wants to show the NFL and other people that he still calls the shots even after all these years.
This is probably what gives this RUMOR its legs: Al Davis would make it happen if he wanted David Carr bad enough.
I don't think Oakland is a good place to be right now, and I would hope that David has a better team to go to than Oakland.
Know this: If Al Davis wants David, I do believe that he'd pull the trigger on this if that's what it took.
Taking CJ is a mistake.
We have o line problems, running back problems, and a legitimate Pro Bowl receiver...with a TE (Daniels) who is coming on strong. So many good o linemen out there to draft, and one really strong RB...but to take another strong WR or an overhyped QB (Quinn) is beyond me.
Maybe we could pull of some great draft picks with this sort of deal, but I think we'd foul it up in the end.
Something is going on, though: We had Plummer talk, then Quinn talk, and now Oakland talk.
Somebody, somewhere, is stirring up the water to either get something done....or to muddy the water a bit to see if anything pokes its head out.
Too much chatter is going on for something to not fall into place.
I wouldn't be surprised to see us trade UP to Oakland's spot...take CJ at No. 1...and then trade him to Tampa Bay for Plummer.
There's too much Tampa Bay/Plummer-Carr-Oakland talk going on. There's a three-way dance here, IMO. Maybe the entire details are getting worked out right now, deciding how closely the three teams can get equal value for the entire trade(s).
But something is going on.
Minnesota is the best spot for David Carr. They had a pretty good running game most of the season, and Childress is doing a fairly good job of rebuilding that team's morals and ethics: David would be a good fit.
Navy_Chris
Rookie
sarcasm?
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Pantherstang84
@rolisrgti06
Bump.
I'm lost as to why the Texans were stupid for not using the number one pick last year for a slot receiver, yet if they had the chance they would be stupid to use it on a true number 1 receiver this year?
You are going to line up at least 2 receivers on almost every play so if you have 2 great ones, you've got 2 good starters, it's not like you are drafting a backup. Just like you need more than one good CB to have a good defensive backfield.
As far as AJ "seeing the writing on the wall" he just signed an extension.
You are going to line up at least 2 receivers on almost every play so if you have 2 great ones, you've got 2 good starters, it's not like you are drafting a backup. Just like you need more than one good CB to have a good defensive backfield.
As far as AJ "seeing the writing on the wall" he just signed an extension.
Navy_Chris
Rookie
He said the Texans were talking about trading with the Texans. Did he mistype?
Texas_Thrill
Veteran
I'm not sure why this would be a problem. I would take this trade in a heartbeat.
You're talking about having to double team Johnson or Johnson and if you double both....Owen Daniels has proved that he can kill you underneath. This would certainly free up our running game for a drastic improvement b/c there is no way someone could put 8 in the box against this duo.
You're talking about having to double team Johnson or Johnson and if you double both....Owen Daniels has proved that he can kill you underneath. This would certainly free up our running game for a drastic improvement b/c there is no way someone could put 8 in the box against this duo.