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Carr traded to Oakland? (Unfounded rumor)

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Maverick864

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ESPN The Blitz just reported that the McNair and Al Davis are in discussions of a proposed trade that would send David Carr and our #8 pick to the Raiders for the top overall pick. The deal also included the Texans send their 5th round pick to the Raiders for their 6th round pick. The report is that the Texans have their sites on Calvin Johnson. If this trade goes through, it looks like the Texans would draft Johnson to start opposite of Andre Johnson and look to draft Ryan Kalil (USC, Center) of Reggie Nelson (Florida, Safety) in the second round and go quarterback in round 3 (Kolb or Stanton).
 
Wow, just wow.

Can we even afford to have 2 back to back 1st round picks on the team?

If yes, and if we can get CJ, WOW! We'd have the best WR tandem in the NFL
 
Id take this deal in a heartbeat and take CJ to make the best young WR tandem in the NFL.

I like how were not giving up any other first day picks as well jus a 5th for their 6th. Not a bad trade off

Of course just speculation but good speculation IMO
 
Maverick864 said:
ESPN The Blitz just reported that the McNair and Al Davis are in discussions of a proposed trade that would send David Carr and our #8 pick to the Raiders for the top overall pick. The deal also included the Texans send their 5th round pick to the Raiders for their 6th round pick. The report is that the Texans have their sites on Calvin Johnson. If this trade goes through, it looks like the Texans would draft Johnson to start opposite of Andre Johnson and look to draft Ryan Kalil (USC, Center) of Reggie Nelson (Florida, Safety) in the second round and go quarterback in round 3 (Kolb or Stanton).
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Wow. That's all I want to say right now. IMHO, it makes more sense than the other possibilities....other than I'm not sure if Calvin would be my pick despite his incredible ability and can't miss talent....and I'm nto sure if the Raiders would actualy take this.
 
Aww man, you got me all excited.
Heres how I know it won't happen:
Draft Value Chart:
Overall pick #1 - 3,000
Pick #8 - 1,400
Thats a difference in 1,600 points, or the equivelant of the #6 overall pick.

So doing this would in essence be like Washington trading us Carr for the #6 overall choice. We'd be getting a 1st for Carr

So if by some miracle we could pull this off and then trade down to like 10-15 and pick up a bunch of extra draft choices, it'd be incredible
 
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Maverick864 said:
ESPN The Blitz just reported that the McNair and Al Davis are in discussions of a proposed trade that would send David Carr and our #8 pick to the Raiders for the top overall pick. The deal also included the Texans send their 5th round pick to the Raiders for their 6th round pick. The report is that the Texans have their sites on Calvin Johnson. If this trade goes through, it looks like the Texans would draft Johnson to start opposite of Andre Johnson and look to draft Ryan Kalil (USC, Center) of Reggie Nelson (Florida, Safety) in the second round and go quarterback in round 3 (Kolb or Stanton).
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NOW THAT WOULD BE A GOOD MOVE!! ....it'll never happen
 
In your dreams !
Back to reality. The Raiders have got to be a candidate for Carr, whether they use their top pick on Russel (or Quinn), or not. You know the Texans would move him in a heartbeat for Oaklands 3rd rounder, probably their 4th rounder since they draft first. But the big issue is, are they willing to assume Carr's contract ? If not, they will wait for him to be cut.
Had the Texans extended Carr for just 2 and not 3 years, it would help
them now in moving DC. But when they screwed it up last year, they really screwed it up.
 
Carr and 8th pick to Oakland for 1st and whatever .

1st overall pick to Tampa for Plummer and the 4th pick .

Well .... why not .
 
nunusguy said:
In your dreams !
Back to reality. The Raiders have got to be a candidate for Carr, whether they use their top pick on Russel (or Quinn), or not. You know the Texans would move him in a heartbeat for Oaklands 3rd rounder, probably their 4th rounder since they draft first. But the big issue is, are they willing to assume Carr's contract ? If not, they will wait for him to be cut.
Had the Texans extended Carr for just 2 and not 3 years, it would help
them now in moving DC. But when they screwed it up last year, they really screwed it up.
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I really want to know what they were thinking last year. 3 year extension with an $8 mil signing bonus...just to get rid of him the next year?! or just to see if he can improve over the 2006 season!? doesn't add up to me.
 
I think the Raiders fans would revolt if that would happen. As for me, I'd be as giddy as a schoolgirl! I hope it happens but I'm not keeping my hopes up. If it ends up being true though, well we can say we got the Raiders back for the P-Buch deal.
 
TexanSam said:
I think the Raiders fans would revolt if that would happen. As for me, I'd be as giddy as a schoolgirl! I hope it happens but I'm not keeping my hopes up. If it ends up being true though, well we can say we got the Raiders back for the P-Buch deal.
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not sure Raiders were used to Aaron Brooks last season, maybe we catch the Raiders in rebound mode :heh:
 
not that this trade would even happen, but lets say it did, if i were the texans i would trade up and then trade back and grab more picks and still be able to grab maybe landry or branch or okoye or some other high quality player, if this were to happen it would truly show how much better this front office is compared to casserly and bunch, but hey this is all fantasy right ? :)
 
We have one of the more dominant recievers in the league already, so this makes no sense. You all can rationalize this all you want to but if my name was Andre Johnson and I played for the Houston Texans and they took a WR with the # 1 overall pick, then what am I supposed to think? I would want out because the writing is on the wall IMO, you don't take an electrifying #1 reciever and slot him in for 35-60 catches a year, square peg, round hole.

A # 2 reciever is just that and there are other more logical moves that can be made than this one, and at the same time grab a field stretcher in a later round. BTW I am a Buccaneer fan also so......., this just can't happen.
 
Wolf said:
not sure Raiders were used to Aaron Brooks last season, maybe we catch the Raiders in rebound mode :heh:
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has Aaron Brooks signed anywhere yet? If he signs here i will probably shoot myself..that dude is worse than Carr with one hand behind his back.
 
Harrison and Wayne are both #1s, both annually catching for over 1,000 yards. When you have the talent, you utilize it. AJ + CJ would be unstoppable
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I really want to know what they were thinking last year. 3 year extension with an $8 mil signing bonus...just to get rid of him the next year?! or just to see if he can improve over the 2006 season!? doesn't add up to me.
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The way I see it is that in order to get the Texans job you had to say you could make him into a special QB. Once Kubiak got a year with him he realized that there are many things that cannot be fixed. So now you get rid of him, get something for him and you save 5 mill for the future even though you have a hit now.
 
mikey21 said:
not that this trade would even happen, but lets say it did, if i were the texans i would trade up and then trade back and grab more picks and still be able to grab maybe landry or branch or okoye or some other high quality player, if this were to happen it would truly show how much better this front office is compared to casserly and bunch, but hey this is all fantasy right ? :)
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This is kinda like talking about what you would do with Texas Loto money if you won.
 
gtexan02 said:
Harrison and Wayne are both #1s, both annually catching for over 1,000 yards. When you have the talent, you utilize it. AJ + CJ would be unstoppable
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Right now we don't have Peyton or even Trent Green throwing to them, so to me it's not worth it right now. Other positions are needed, and we just don't run that kind of offense. I am trying to be nice about this but hands down if it isn't to get more draft picks this would be a pretty stupid trade on our part.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I really want to know what they were thinking last year. 3 year extension with an $8 mil signing bonus...just to get rid of him the next year?! or just to see if he can improve over the 2006 season!? doesn't add up to me.
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Of course I dunno, but I think McNair was really too close, personally, with DC. And then you had Casserly who was apparently also looking at Carr thru
rose colored glasses, for whatever reason.
But the contract is really a win-win for DC himself. It probably insulates him
from being traded and therefor going someplace he might not want to, yet there's still a nice chunk of guaranteed money for him if they cut him and he's left to negotiate with whomever he chooses.
 
I'm ok with the trade, but not with CJ as the pick. If your going to go WR at number 1 overall, he is a franchise WR. We already have a franchise WR. Why draft CJ #1 for him to be a #2 WR?
 
nunusguy said:
Of course I dunno, but I think McNair was really too close, personally, with DC. And then you had Casserly who was apparently also looking at Carr thru
rose colored glasses, for whatever reason.
But the contract is really a win-win for DC himself. It probably insulates him
from being traded and therefor going someplace he might not want to, yet there's still a nice chunk of guaranteed money for him if they cut him and he's left to negotiate with whomever he chooses.
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I truly believe that the 2004 season was still dancing around in the front office peoples' heads. I believe he had like 3500 yards a couple more TD's than Int's and a decent record, so where does all that just go? Also let's face it, we men never like to be wrong about anything:bigboss:
 
RTP2110 said:
I'm ok with the trade, but not with CJ as the pick. If your going to go WR at number 1 overall, he is a franchise WR. We already have a franchise WR. Why draft CJ #1 for him to be a #2 WR?
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Wow Rationale, like Paul Pierce you the truth patna!!
 
RTP2110 said:
I'm ok with the trade, but not with CJ as the pick. If your going to go WR at number 1 overall, he is a franchise WR. We already have a franchise WR. Why draft CJ #1 for him to be a #2 WR?
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That type of logic drops my jaw to the floor. With CJ and AJ as WRs, it would be a matchup nightmare for any defensive coordinator. You'd have to double up on both WRs.
 
D-Vizzl said:
I truly believe that the 2004 season was still dancing around in the front office peoples' heads. I believe he had like 3500 yards a couple more TD's than Int's and a decent record, so where does all that just go? Also let's face it, we men never like to be wrong about anything:bigboss:
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Good point D-V.
Yea his 3rd year in the 2004 season was definitely his best, and no coincidence I'm sure, also the teams best to date.
 
Anyone else happen to watch The Blitz today?

I'd be jumping up and down like crazy if this went through.

AJ + CJ = 1 of the Best WR Duos in the NFL
 
Marcus said:
That type of logic drops my jaw to the floor. With CJ and AJ as WRs, it would be a matchup nightmare for any defensive coordinator. You'd have to double up on both WRs.
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Since Carr hasn't been traded yet I have to include him but, money-wise, DC, Andre, Ahman, Domanick, and a Calvin Johnson would have you with too much money on the offensive end and it always ends with one or two of these people having to be released or traded.

Replace DC with whatever QB we are going to end up overpaying for, and when we release D. Davis, think of the ramifications for just next year. I don't have the numbers on this computer but there would be a ton of dead money next year.
 
Maverick864 said:
ESPN The Blitz just reported that the McNair and Al Davis are in discussions of a proposed trade that would send David Carr and our #8 pick to the Raiders for the top overall pick. The deal also included the Texans send their 5th round pick to the Raiders for their 6th round pick. The report is that the Texans have their sites on Calvin Johnson. If this trade goes through, it looks like the Texans would draft Johnson to start opposite of Andre Johnson and look to draft Ryan Kalil (USC, Center) of Reggie Nelson (Florida, Safety) in the second round and go quarterback in round 3 (Kolb or Stanton).
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BTW you forgot to add first time poster long time lurker.......
 
I think Carr is an average-good quarterback. However, if this is a possibility they got to take it. The options then are endless.
 
mexican_texan said:
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if we trade up.. that is about the only guy I want ..

(if spencer is really not coming back.. i could see a tackle taken, but I am iffy on that.. after all Gallery that Oakland took was supposed to be a really good lineman and he hasn't done much)
 
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