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Texans Sign Ahman Green

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Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports that the Houston Texans have signed running back Ahman Green.

A league source tells us that Green's contract is worth $23 million over four years, and that Green will earn $8 million in the first year of the deal. Per Schefter, $6.5 million of contract is guaranteed.

Green, who has spent the last seven seasons with the Packers, will be reuinted with former Green Bay coach/G.M. Mike Sherman in Houston. Sherman is an assistant head coach with the Texans.

The aging tailback generated strong interest, and could re-establish himself as a star runner in the Texans' zone-blocking scheme.

Of course, it remains to be seen what the Texans will do at quarterback. David Carr, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2002 draft, is not expected to return. The identity of his replacement is, at this point, anyone's guess.

The frontloading makes it easier to move on if necessary. Sounds like a smart move.
 
Whoa 24 mil injury prone bandaid. T-Hen would have been the play this has regret written all over it. Sorry AG prove me wrong. Hard to see what the rationale is here. Here's to 5 mil in dead 08' cap space. Sorry to be so cynical just hard to see how how Ahman is going to revert to his mid-20's form. I guess the big name brings some confidence. This isn't Eddie George in Dallas but not that far from it. Good luck.
 
Navy_Chris said:
Really? didn't know that. maybe next time we can get a RB with rickets. hah. I don't understand the offseason moves this team continues to make. It would just be the icing on the cake if we signed Ken Hamlin. ANOTHER underachiever.
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i guess getting assaulted with a stop sign is some type of underachievement. i guess signing a guy like hamlin would do nothing towards bettering the dearth of talent that this teasm currently possesses.

listen, Green isnt the BEST talent out there, but he works with what the team is trying to do with a limited budget. get used to us not being players for the Tier 1 FA talent until the FO can clean up Casserly's mess. we were never players for guys like Clements, Thomas, etc. you could have done ALOT worse than get Ahman Green for a couple of years.

so Chris, what is it the Texans could do to get some praise from you?
 
dtran04 said:
From PFT:

Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports that the Houston Texans have signed running back Ahman Green.

A league source tells us that Green's contract is worth $23 million over four years, and that Green will earn $8 million in the first year of the deal. Per Schefter, $6.5 million of contract is guaranteed.

Green, who has spent the last seven seasons with the Packers, will be reuinted with former Green Bay coach/G.M. Mike Sherman in Houston. Sherman is an assistant head coach with the Texans.

The aging tailback generated strong interest, and could re-establish himself as a star runner in the Texans' zone-blocking scheme.

Of course, it remains to be seen what the Texans will do at quarterback. David Carr, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2002 draft, is not expected to return. The identity of his replacement is, at this point, anyone's guess.

The frontloading makes it easier to move on if necessary. Sounds like a smart move.
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Frontloading the contract makes this signing even better. Similar to what the Packers did with Charles Woodson.
 
dirty steve said:
i guess getting assaulted with a stop sign is some type of underachievement.

listen, Green isnt the BEST talent out there, but he works with what the team is trying to do with a limited budget. get used to us not being players for the Tier 1 FA talent until the FO can clean up Casserly's mess. we were never players for guys like Clements, Thomas, etc. you could have done ALOT worse than get Ahman Green for a couple of years.

so Chris, what is it the Texans could do to get some praise from you?
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Prolly an Aggie. Nothing you can do for those folks.
 
Navy_Chris said:
how am i talking out of my ass? arent you tired of the Texans wasting money on players they hope can resurrect their careers here? wouldn't you rather see them invest in a sure thing? i know i would.
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what is a sure thing to you? 49 million on Leonard Davis? 80 mil on Nate Clements? you keep throwing this stuff out there with nothing concrete to back it up.
 
Please_Evolve said:
Prolly an Aggie. Nothing you can do for those folks.
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Nah, I don't go to A&M. BUT, making moves that don't cause me to scratch my head whenever they make them would be a good start. I'm not pretending to know more than Rick or Gary, however I am curious as to what they see in Ken Hamlin and Ahman Green and why they insist on finding another QB this season. Oh, and I'm giving all kinds of praise to Rick and Gary. I know they'll turn this around. I'm just a little frustrated by 5 years and nothing to show for it. Impatience is rearing it's ugly head, that's all.
 
Navy_Chris said:
how am i talking out of my ass? arent you tired of the Texans wasting money on players they hope can resurrect their careers here? wouldn't you rather see them invest in a sure thing? i know i would.
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how beautifully contradictory of yourself.

You pimp the undrafted FA Taylor who hasn't done anything.

But balk at the pro bowl RB who was usually at the top of league in rushing yards and who still despite everything still topped 1000 yards on a mediocre at best GB team.

Hmmm....who's the more sure bet?
 
STEEL BLUE TEXANS said:
Chris Taylor can't do much either when he is sitting on the practice squad for "fumbling problems."
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he fumbled once in the cleveland game, and didn't he recover it himself? name me a RB that doesn't fumble every now and then. it seems to be fixed to me. i would be happy if he got a decent look on a consistent basis, that's all.
 
dirty steve said:
what is a sure thing to you? 49 million on Leonard Davis? 80 mil on Nate Clements? you keep throwing this stuff out there with nothing concrete to back it up.
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I don't know if you read my post a long time ago, but I was and still am in favor of giving up our 1st rounders in 07 and 08 for the opportunity to sign Dwight Freeney. He's a sure thing and he would help out in more ways than one. Kubiak has said that he wants the defense to be the cornerstone of this team. Freeney would be a good acquisition. He would put more pressure on opposing passers, our secondary wouldn't be hurting as much....

They won't do this, but I like the idea, nevertheless....
 
Navy_Chris said:
I don't know if you read my post a long time ago, but I was and still am in favor of giving up our 1st rounders in 07 and 08 for the opportunity to sign Dwight Freeney. He's a sure thing and he would help out in more ways than one. Kubiak has said that he wants the defense to be the cornerstone of this team. Freeney would be a good acquisition. He would put more pressure on opposing passers, our secondary wouldn't be hurting as much....
They won't do this, but I like the idea, nevertheless....
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no way i give up 2 1st's for Freeney--that is way too far fetched for me. I doubt you would find many current NFL GM's that would agree with you.
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BTW--Here were your words from another thread:
In free agency, I would make a serious run at Ken Hamlin and Donte Stallworth.

seems as if somebody has talksoutofbothsidesofhismouthitis
 
Hervoyel said:
Anyone who thinks signing Green is an upgrade over Ron Dayne is on crack IMO.
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Thank god you were here to finally tell me what's wrong with me...

I think Green is a marginal (read; slight) upgrade over Dayne, but a good compliment to Dayne...
 
dirty steve said:
no way i give up 2 1st's for Freeney--that is way too far fetched for me. I doubt you would find many current NFL GM's that would agree with you.
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BTW--Here were your words from another thread:
In free agency, I would make a serious run at Ken Hamlin and Donte Stallworth.

seems as if somebody has talksoutofbothsidesofhismouthitis
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Seeing as Ken Hamlin is one of the best safeties on the market (which isn't saying much), yes, i would try to sign him . HOWEVER, Ken Hamlin isn't the end all at safety for the Texans. IF we signed him, i'd still be in favor of getting a rookie in here.
 
dirty steve said:
no way i give up 2 1st's for Freeney--that is way too far fetched for me. I doubt you would find many current NFL GM's that would agree with you.
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BTW--Here were your words from another thread:
In free agency, I would make a serious run at Ken Hamlin and Donte Stallworth.

seems as if somebody has talksoutofbothsidesofhismouthitis
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this move not only improves our football team dramatically, it puts us EVEN FURTHER under the cap for years to come. I love the idea. too bad it won't happen
 
here's the thing. peterson isn't going to drop to us. i don't see him dropping past picks 3-7. that's just me though. i think the combination of dd or green (if dd comes back)/lundy is what's going to happen, and that's if taylor doesn't get a decent shot this upcoming year.
 
Navy_Chris said:
Seeing as Ken Hamlin is one of the best safeties on the market (which isn't saying much), yes, i would try to sign him . HOWEVER, Ken Hamlin isn't the end all at safety for the Texans. IF we signed him, i'd still be in favor of getting a rookie in here.
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If we signed Hamlin he probably would be our FS for years to come. He's only 26 and he would probably get a long-term deal. He's a quality safety and you can't expect Pro Bowlers at every position.
 
TexanSam said:
If we signed Hamlin he probably would be our FS for years to come. He's only 26 and he would probably get a long-term deal. He's a quality safety and you can't expect Pro Bowlers at every position.
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Hamlin plays his best when he moves up to the line. We've already got plenty of guys like that. we need good cover guys back there.
 
TexanBorn51 said:
One of my best friends is a Packer fan and when I told him about this signing he was surprised but also was not aware about him being a free agent. Anyways I asked him since he's a Packer why did Green bay choose not to keep him. He did not know but maybe someone here can share that. Also when I look at 07 mock drafts most of them put GB to select Lynch at 16 pick. So is it that they let go AG for a new RB draft pick?
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Personally, I seriously question the football knowlege of any Packer fan that didn't know Green was a free agent...
 
off topic, but does anyone know who/what the Texans tried to send to Pittsburgh for Joey Porter before he was released?
 
Navy_Chris said:
Yeah, Michael Smith of ESPN reported it yesterday. He said the Texans, along with 2 other teams tried, but failed.
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IF three teams tried to trade for Porter and Pitsburgh didn't take any of the deals...makes you go hmmmm?

Anything is better then nothing, right?
 
Hoth-Boy said:
IF three teams tried to trade for Porter and Pitsburgh didn't take any of the deals...makes you go hmmmm?

Anything is better then nothing, right?
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A lot of people around the league are thinking that this decision is going to come back and haunt Mike Tomin.
 
Navy_Chris said:
he fumbled once in the cleveland game, and didn't he recover it himself? name me a RB that doesn't fumble every now and then. it seems to be fixed to me. i would be happy if he got a decent look on a consistent basis, that's all.
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He'll get that look during the pre-season (again). Is he elgible for PS again? If so, chances are that is where he would end up.
 
F4VRE said:
Wow. Am I missing something here ?
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Yes, the fact that I think Green is an upgrade to Dayne, and don't like to be called "on crack" for thinking so...
It is academic that I don't think Green is a major upgrade... I think he IS an upgrade.
I may have confused things by saying he would be a good compliment to Dayne, if Dayne isn't going to be back next season...
 
Navy_Chris said:
Nah, I don't go to A&M. BUT, making moves that don't cause me to scratch my head whenever they make them would be a good start. I'm not pretending to know more than Rick or Gary, however I am curious as to what they see in Ken Hamlin and Ahman Green and why they insist on finding another QB this season. Oh, and I'm giving all kinds of praise to Rick and Gary. I know they'll turn this around. I'm just a little frustrated by 5 years and nothing to show for it. Impatience is rearing it's ugly head, that's all.
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I don't want to get off in a rant here, but I feel like I am about to go Dennis Miller on you. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/395977Ken Hamlin last year as a free safety had 96 tkls, 2 sacks, 3 picks, in the season that he came back from almost getting beat to death with a metal street sign. This guy is so tough that not only did the head wound heal, but didnt even scar. He is a leader, and flies to the ball, he can play both run and pass. Unlike Brown, 76 tkls, 1 sack, 1 pick, not a leader and bites on play action.

Green is an upgrade of mamoth proportions. He is a runner, a pass catcher.

Sorry I just don't see you POV.
 
Reddevil63 said:
Somebody would be willing to give up an awful lot to move up and grab him if we don't take him
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Why?? if they've got their eyes on AD, and believes we won't take him, they'll know he'll fall past Miami & SanFran... moving up to the 11th pick is a lot easier on the pocket book.

Matter of fact, if AD get's past us, the only team anyone would worry about would be Carolina at 14.
 
michaelm said:
Personally, I seriously question the football knowlege of any Packer fan that didn't know Green was a free agent...
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i understand but yet to explain that my good friend has been very ill lately and lives in Texas without internet and such. He's just had some other health issues to keep up with. He didn't even know Sherman was our coach now. You see I don't even see him very often in the last few years cuz I live now AZ. But let me tell you in his prime of years past he could tell you everything about them and watched every game. He's a big cheesehead ya know.
 
thunderkyss said:
Matter of fact, if AD get's past us, the only team anyone would worry about would be Carolina at 14.
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I don't think Carolina would take him as long as they have DeAngelo Williams on the bench... unless there's something I don't know about Williams...
 
TexanBorn51 said:
i understand but yet to explain that my good friend has been very ill lately and lives in Texas without internet and such. He's just had some other health issues to keep up with. He didn't even know Sherman was our coach now. You see I don't even see him very often in the last few years cuz I live now AZ. But let me tell you in his prime of years past he could tell you everything about them and watched every game. He's a big cheesehead ya know.
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Gotcha... I hope i didn't come off as having insulted your friend.
 
Texian said:
30 yr old RB, 9 years in the league, high mileage, backside of his career, numbers slipping, this doesn't do a lot for me in building confidence in the FO. It appears as a stop gap band aid. I would have rather spent that $6 million on the line and a player who would be around for the length of a 4 yr contract. Green's 4.0 ypc last yr isn't much better than what Texans had last yr.
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yall just got an eddie george type of player,remember what eddie did in dallas,nothing.
 
Sweet! Good to hear. He'll be a nice piece of the running game puzzle we'll be putting together. :thumbup
 
Good news. I fully expected the Sherman tie to Green would trump any possibility of signing Travis Henry, but this is a very solid pickup for a guy who can still do a lot on the field for the next couple of years. Considering the youth at that position right now, it gives the RB position a good deal more credibility.


Then again, I was really psyched about the Eric Moulds signing last year. Maybe Green should rent. :winky:
 
michaelm said:
Gotcha... I hope i didn't come off as having insulted your friend.
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No not all it's okay hey how's the Woodlands I went to the Texas Renaissance Festival near there two years ago it was a great area and I miss the Houston area lived there for sevral years back in the 60's and 70's. Can't wait to go back home meanwhile I wear my Texan cap proudly here and outnumbered here in Phoenix but I love it.
 
Navy_Chris said:
I don't know if you read my post a long time ago, but I was and still am in favor of giving up our 1st rounders in 07 and 08 for the opportunity to sign Dwight Freeney. He's a sure thing and he would help out in more ways than one. Kubiak has said that he wants the defense to be the cornerstone of this team. Freeney would be a good acquisition. He would put more pressure on opposing passers, our secondary wouldn't be hurting as much....

They won't do this, but I like the idea, nevertheless....
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This is supposed to be about Ahman Green, I know, but I had to respond to this. Let me get this right. You, as a GM of a rebuilding/building team would trade to a divisional rival, your first draft picks in the next 2 years for a defensive end on the downside of his career. Did I understand that right? Wow.
 
STEEL BLUE TEXANS said:
1,000 yards is so easy to come by that none of our RBs came close to that mark last season.
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Not one of them got enough carries to get there and so the easy 1,000 yards on the ground went the way of Eric Moulds cathes and TD's. You can't get it done without the ball.

When Ron Dayne was healthy and got the carries he got damned near halfway to 1,000 yards in a quarter of a season.
 
Tayton said:
This is supposed to be about Ahman Green, I know, but I had to respond to this. Let me get this right. You, as a GM of a rebuilding/building team would trade to a divisional rival, your first draft picks in the next 2 years for a defensive end on the downside of his career. Did I understand that right? Wow.
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Downside?! He's just coming into his prime! And, as a rebuilding team, middle round picks will prove to be crucial to our success. We need to drastically improve our O-Line depth and fix the salary cap situation. Add that to the fact Dwight Freeney would help in SO many just ways. not just in our pass rush.
 
Texian said:
30 yr old RB, 9 years in the league, high mileage, backside of his career, numbers slipping, this doesn't do a lot for me in building confidence in the FO. It appears as a stop gap band aid. I would have rather spent that $6 million on the line and a player who would be around for the length of a 4 yr contract. Green's 4.0 ypc last yr isn't much better than what Texans had last yr.
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Nice post. I agree.

Another band aid by the Texans.

James Allen wasn't available?

You guys were wanting a free agency signing so badly, as you watched other teams gobble them up, that you think this is a good signing.

I hope you're right.

Otherwise, it's just more of the same: Pick up an average player and prop him up as "the next piece in the puzzle."

Again: I hope I'm wrong and you all are proven right. Otherwise, we'll still have a mediocre running game that nobody fears and nobody needs to gameplan for...and the receiving game will suffer once again.
 
Let me understand this right... when all these rushing stats are thrown out comparing AG and the Texans RB's well does the rushing stat include the RB receiving too. Reason I ask cuz the formula also has to apply to all those times you receive the ball and then run. So if a RB catches more balls than the other would that take away from his rushing yds?
 
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