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Texans Sign Ahman Green

Great signing...low risk.

He can catch balls outta the backfield. If AP is there at 8 you still have to take him, but RB isn't as pressing a need now.
 
Since the Texans obviously felt they needed a better playmaker at RB,
I'm glad they went this way instead of using their #1 Draft pick on a back
which is now almost certainly not going to happen.
The Denver South philosophy about backs is alive and well.
 
why is it the Texans only go after Denver/Green Bay players? is it familarity & knowing they're undervalued/appreciated?

makes me think Plummer is next? make that a conditional 2008 draft pick :winky:
 
Mike Sherman obviously feels Green has some years left in him still, so that probably played a large part in this.

Go Texans!
 
The_New_LOD01 said:
Just in case Carr returns:

First to blame Ahman Green for the offensive woes and ANOTHER losing season. It couldn't possibly be Carr's fault there is no passing game other than dink and dunk.

On the other hand. If this team wakes up and throws Carr where he belong: IN THE GARBAGE CAN, then here we go!!!!!
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Why are you trying to turn this into a Carr thread. The new LODO1 is the same as the old. Where is that neg rep button when you need one?
 
Not Good.

Another Green Bay "has been" in my opinion. Definitely on the downhill side of good.:cry2:
 
I really like the signing. He gives some credibility to our backfield.

The main question I have is what do we do for the draft? Making the assumption that AP is gone (likely) and the pick roles around to Minn. at 7, dont you think a trade to someone like Atlanta who desperately needs a playmaker in the secondary (LaRon Landy) is likely? Unless they really want Brady Quinn, Branch, or Okeye....the rest of the reciever class is a big reach at 7.

I am worried that we will miss out on Landry and be stuck taking Levi Brown (a reach), Branch, or Okeye (I wouldnt be to upset).
 
30 yr old RB, 9 years in the league, high mileage, backside of his career, numbers slipping, this doesn't do a lot for me in building confidence in the FO. It appears as a stop gap band aid. I would have rather spent that $6 million on the line and a player who would be around for the length of a 4 yr contract. Green's 4.0 ypc last yr isn't much better than what Texans had last yr.
 
Between Green, Lundy, Gado and Taylor, we should be able to run the ball well. Nice signing. He brings a great attitude to the backfield.
 
TexanBorn51 said:
Is this final and what do you think my fellow Texans...
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I think it's an enormous mistake and I'll be here at the end of the year to harp on it until I'm on every ignore list on this board.

Anyone who thinks signing Green is an upgrade over Ron Dayne is on crack IMO.
 
i like the idea of cris taylor and lundy playing with ahmad green. they should be able to learn alot from playing with someone who has had that kind of success in the league. this upgrades all the RBs imo:marionaner:
 
Hervoyel said:
I think it's an enormous mistake and I'll be here at the end of the year to harp on it until I'm on every ignore list on this board.

Anyone who thinks signing Green is an upgrade over Ron Dayne is on crack IMO.
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So you would take Dayne's 671 yards over Green's 1000+? If we had one dependable back like Green last year we might have won a few more games
 
Yea I like this signing. If Dayne can have a resurgance here, why can't Green? Green was a way better back than Dayne ever was.
 
Texian said:
30 yr old RB, 9 years in the league, high mileage, backside of his career, numbers slipping, this doesn't do a lot for me in building confidence in the FO. It appears as a stop gap band aid. I would have rather spent that $6 million on the line and a player who would be around for the length of a 4 yr contract. Green's 4.0 ypc last yr isn't much better than what Texans had last yr.
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Which player would fit those credentials you just offered?
 
Hervoyel said:
I think it's an enormous mistake and I'll be here at the end of the year to harp on it until I'm on every ignore list on this board.

Anyone who thinks signing Green is an upgrade over Ron Dayne is on crack IMO.
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I would like an "On Crack" smiley.
 
Figures. He's our typical free agent signee.

Ties to old coaches who live in the past - check.
Past his prime - check.
Injury prone - check.
Overpaid - check.

So now we have 2/3 of Green Bay's 2005 backfield with Green and Gado.

And I guess this means we have no intention of drafting Adrian Peterson.

Fantastic....
 
johndoe said:
just saw on nfl network texans agree to terms with ahmad green... sorry if allready posted
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Why do the Texans want another RB with injury problems? The Chronicle was all giddy about the fact that he's rushed for over 1,000 yards for 6 of the last 7 seasons. The significance of that would be....what, exactly?????

Rushing for 1,000 yards a season in today's game means very little. Edge rushed for 1,200 or so behind Arizona's crappy line last season. Add that to the fact that Ahman's gonna be on IR by Week 7, I'm very underwhelmed by this signing.
 
HoustonFrog said:
As I said above I think that you can still grab AP, if there, and play it like N.O. did but overall it gives you choices.
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This is accurate. The Texans are not in the "have to" draft a RB mode, but that contract nor Green is not enough for them to pass on a value selection at RB.
 
Hervoyel said:
I think it's an enormous mistake and I'll be here at the end of the year to harp on it until I'm on every ignore list on this board.

Anyone who thinks signing Green is an upgrade over Ron Dayne is on crack IMO.
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Ron Dayne, in his 8 seasons, has never had a 1000 yard season. In his 8 seasons, he's never even come close to having one good year. Last year he had a good stretch of 4 games then he got hurt in pre-game warmups the last week of the season. Also, as good as he looked late last season, not once did he run for over 20 yards and he was not much of a recieving threat from the backfield.

Last season, in his 9th year in the league, Green rushed for over 1000 yards in 14 games. Not great, but not awful. He only ran for over 20 yards three times, but that is three more than Dayne did. Green was also more of a threat in catching the ball, with 46 receptions and over 300 yards recieving. He's also had success in the league unlike Dayne. So to say Green isn't upgrade over Dayne is probably wrong. At the very least, you should provide some sort of examples as to why you think Green isn't better than Dayne.
 
I'm hesitantly hopeful on this signing. He's been a good back but... damn... he's old. It's so rare for a guy to continue to perform after 30 and with his recent injuries, his past few years haven't been that great.

The whole Green Bay connection worries me. But I like the fact that he interviewed with us and then cancelled the rest of his interviews.

I'm not going to go all Hervoyel on him. I'm going to take a wait and see attitude.
 
mexican_texan said:
I'll have an opinion when I see the value of the contract.
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I agree...but also what he can do come pre-season and regular season.

But, now GET RID OF DW/DD...for god sake he signed that big extension 2yrs ago...get rid of him. Free up some more money.
 
Texian said:
30 yr old RB, 9 years in the league, high mileage, backside of his career, numbers slipping, this doesn't do a lot for me in building confidence in the FO. It appears as a stop gap band aid. I would have rather spent that $6 million on the line and a player who would be around for the length of a 4 yr contract. Green's 4.0 ypc last yr isn't much better than what Texans had last yr.
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this free agent market is crazy, teams throwing around ridiculous jack. a guard like your talking about is going for 50 million, which would not be worth the price & another reason the Texans need to pick offensive lineman via the draft. I'll take two again please.......:winky:
 
Navy_Chris said:
Why do the Texans want another RB with injury problems? The Chronicle was all giddy about the fact that he's rushed for over 1,000 yards for 6 of the last 7 seasons. The significance of that would be....what, exactly?????

Rushing for 1,000 yards a season in today's game means very little. Edge rushed for 1,200 or so behind Arizona's crappy line last season. Add that to the fact that Ahman's gonna be on IR by Week 7, I'm very underwhelmed by this signing.
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Green was hurt for almost all of 2005 yet missed only 2 games in 2006 (4th and 5th game of the season). Explain how he's injury prone.

And James had about 70 more rushing attempts than Green had. He also had a significantly lower YPC than Green did as well.
 
Here is the contract value.(sorry if reposted)

From: NFL.com

Running back Ahman Green reached agreement on a contract with the Houston Texans. The deal is for $23 million for four years, including $6.5 million guaranteed.
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TexanSam said:
Green was hurt for almost all of 2005 yet missed only 2 games in 2006 (4th and 5th game of the season). Explain how he's injury prone.

And James had about 70 more rushing attempts than Green had. He also had a significantly lower YPC than Green did as well.
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Why do people insist on using stats as the sole basis for their arguments?
 
TEXANRED said:
So you would take Dayne's 671 yards over Green's 1000+? If we had one dependable back like Green last year we might have won a few more games
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Green: 266 attempts, 1059 yards, 14 starts, 4.0 per carry
Dayne: 151 attempts, 612 yards, 6 starts, 4.1 per carry

Dayne's stats there are very deceptive. He got here without going to camp with us (or anybody really since he sat out with turf toe in Denver) and in his first 8 games was only marginally effective. When he got healthy late in the year he went on a tear and averaged almost a yard more per carry than Green. Dayne is an 8 year vet with very low miles on him while Green is a 10 year vet with a history of injuries.

This signing is a waste of money that's going to come back to haunt the Texans when they stare at the dead money left from their 1 year running back. This entire FA period is some lame Toro muffins IMO.
 
aj. said:
So if I keep my portfolio at a 70% mix of growth and value stocks I'll be okay this year?
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We could have gotten the amount of production out of Taylor and Lundy that we're going to get out of Ahman Green. Just watch.

On another note, Rick Smith has to be worried about our horrible cap situation we're in offseason after offseason. The wise thing would be not to worry about QB or RB this offseason and simply focus on the offensive line. We can have as many RBs and WRs and QBs as we want to, but if we don't have a solid line it's not really going to matter much, now is it? Why can't the Texans FO get that through their heads?
 
He's been one of my favorite RB's since he came into the league. Hopefully he can still rack up some yards down here.
 
TexanSam said:
Unless you have anything to back up your side of the argument it's all we got.
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Just look at the guy play in years past. Even when he's not injured, I'm not impressed to the tune of $23M with 6.5 guaranteed! 1,000 yards is so easy to come by for even the most average of RBs in the league. No need to pay $23M for it.
 
STEEL BLUE TEXANS said:
1,000 yards is so easy to come by that none of our RBs came close to that mark last season.
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Because Gary was experimenting with different combinations throughout the season. None of them had a chance to. Plus, take a peek at those 5 guys in front of them next time you watch a game. Not exactly poetry in motion.
 
I like this signing. Im thinking Green will be getting 65-70 % of the carries and a good chunk of passes. Sure, I would've preferred Henry since he has a little less miles on him but in no way am I upset by this signing. Excellent way to start FA :marionaner:
 
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