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Just saw on NFL Total Access that Adam Schefter will be reporting new news on David Carr and his future with the Houston Texans.

Don't know what it is, but wanted to give everyone a heads up to watch Total Access, something may be reported
 
Texans Pride said:
Just saw on NFL Total Access that Adam Schefter will be reporting new news on David Carr and his future with the Houston Texans.

Don't know what it is, but wanted to give everyone a heads up to watch Total Access, something may be reported
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Thanks! I'll be out celebrating my aniversary. Please let those of us who can't watch, know what is happening.
 
Just saw on nfl network that Adam thinks he wont be back. It is not looking bright and that Kubiak def has to be thinkin of bringin in a vet like plummer as adam said and to help out when we draft a rookie qb.....just relayin info...thoughts????????
 
Ok, nothing that many haven't been saying here.

Just said that it didn't look good for Carr, that it looks as if the Texans will be moving on, possibly trading him in the off-season. He said that Kubes might pick up a veteran player (Plummer was mentioned) and let him keep the seat warm for the qb that the Texans could draft this year.
 
ahhh Carr will be back next year and he will make the same mistakes over again. so.... anyone have closer psls other than 121 x lemme know
 
I think Carr will be back, but on a very short leash. We'll have a beefed up o-line and a consistent running game, and if he can't produce, then we'll have someone waiting in the wings for an immediate replacement.

I hope that I'm incorrect, but I'm mentally preparing myself for this scenario.
 
wrestler4life said:
I just find it hard to think that we would take a cap hit like that. Do we want to be rid of him that bad?
I know he is not playing well, but we could have him work with the youngster, then let him go when he wont hurt us so much.
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I don't want Carr having any influence on any QB prospect we possibly bring in. Off limits with restraining order. Carr can give hand signals and hold clipboard if Kubiak wants him to but that is it, no more no less. Thinking Carr could mentor anyone as a QB is a laughable assumption and imho a huge reach.

Personally, David will be back and will probably be the backup...most expensive backup in history (most expensive backup part probably not true :yahoo: )
 
Carr is an ideal back up QB at the right money. He won't get in trouble and make your team look bad, won't cause a stir and badmouth anyone or talk behind the starter, doesn't risk tough throws and mainly looks for safe passes while your playmaker is injured. He would be an ideal reserve and he should have a very long career as a kicked up Trent Dilfer.
 
Could a mod please change the spelling in the title to read Adam's correct last name. It should be Schefter, not Schefner.

Thank you
 
I think Carr will be back and will enter camp as our starter. I don't see us spending much of anything on new talent this offseason. Good news is that all of you Sagers out there should get your wish if he sucks.
 
IIRC, Plummer's in for a pay raise and has already been demoted. One guy also said that Plummer reportedly said he wanted to be back with Kubiak. Add one to one and you get two: Plummer's coming to Houston.
 
jerek said:
I think Carr will be back and will enter camp as our starter. I don't see us spending much of anything on new talent this offseason. Good news is that all of you Sagers out there should get your wish if he sucks.
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Carr will probably be back. However, I think he will have to compete for the job at best and its possible they dont even let him compete.

He will be an expensive backup until someone makes us an offer for him which will probably necessitate Carr reworking his deal so that the other team will want him. I dont think anyone will offer anything of consequence for him and teams will just wait till he is cut/released unless he reworks deal so we can make him more marketable to other teams
 
Plummer will be cut and will become a free agent. He's not starting and has a high dollar contract similar to Carr's (with three years left instead of two).

Debate the rest until y'all are blue in the face.

I think he'll be here next year with Sage - more as a stop gap than anything else.

Adam Schefter and Suzy Kolber: Separated at birth? Take note.
 
Plummer will be fine as a placeholder for a year, even two. Hes nearing the end of his career I think, and im sure he would like to finish his career under Kubiak.

Hed be a good fit for us as a temporary solution while we groom a rookie. He would provide leadership, and a working knowledge of the system we are running.
 
Grid said:
Plummer will be fine as a placeholder for a year, even two. Hes nearing the end of his career I think, and im sure he would like to finish his career under Kubiak.

Hed be a good fit for us as a temporary solution while we groom a rookie. He would provide leadership, and a working knowledge of the system we are running.
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agreed
 
I also expect Sage to return, Jake Plummer to be signed, and David Carr to be the odd man out. I wonder if possibly all three will be at camp, with room for only two on the regular season roster.
 
If the team brings in Plummer im sure that Carr will be traded around the draft...it wouldnt make sense for them to hang on to him longer than they should
 
Tulip said:
I also expect Sage to return, Jake Plummer to be signed, and David Carr to be the odd man out. I wonder if possibly all three will be at camp, with room for only two on the regular season roster.
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wow, could you imagine if Carr was put on the Practice Squad or made the emergency 3rd QB..not getting reps..hanging with the waterboy and equipment manager...
 
Fortunately for David, he's not practice squad eligible.

As for trading David, if the Texans can't get good enough value for him, I could see Kubiak hanging on to him through camp in order to see if David responds to real competition in a meaningful, positive way.
 
Tulip said:
Fortunately for David, he's not practice squad eligible.

As for trading David, if the Texans can't get good enough value for him, I could see Kubiak hanging on to him through camp in order to see if David responds to real competition in a meaningful, positive way.
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I'm not sure what the bluebook value for Carr is though. Harrington was traded for a 6th round pick to the Dolphins last year so I would assume the Texans would get the same. I don't imagine we'd get anything higher than a 4th rounder for him. Maybe a 3rd, but I think that chance is slim.
 
As much as I do not like the prospect of Plummer he would be a name that our guys should be geeked about, provide the energy that gets a team going via change and someone the other team will have to gameplan for rather than exploit.

If the comments about Plummer are true, in that he wants to play for Kubiak, then we need to milk it while we have the leverage of a young QB with two years left and a "name" QB in the early twilight of his career after being demoted to a rookie the previous year.

I cannot stand Carr, but I sure as heck do not want to overpay for Plummer while eating Carr's contract. That would make as much sense as extending Carr this past offseason and the good Lord knows that one was a doozie.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
As much as I do not like the prospect of Plummer he would be a name that our guys should be geeked about, provide the energy that gets a team going via change and someone the other team will have to gameplan for rather than exploit.

If the comments about Plummer are true, in that he wants to play for Kubiak, then we need to milk it while we have the leverage of a young QB with two years left and a "name" QB in the early twilight of his career after being demoted to a rookie the previous year.

I cannot stand Carr, but I sure as heck do not want to overpay for Plummer while eating Carr's contract. That would make as much sense as extending Carr this past offseason and the good Lord knows that one was a doozie.
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Hopefully Carr will do the honorable thing and rework his deal so we can trade him elsewhere. I dont know if hte NFLPA would let him though.

After all the NFLPA is run like the mafia at least according to Lavar Arrington it is...
I dont think Carr wants to be sleeping with the fishes....playing for the Dolphins, now that is another story
 
The question is will the Texans actually let someone compete with Carr. So far, Carr has been given the QB position without ever having to compete with anyone else. It's like he was appointed for life. I don't know why any QB's would want to come here if they're not going to be given a fair chance. Rosenfels sure wasn't.
 
Here is a piece from McClain today:

David Carr could be playing his last two games in Houston.

Fans should know that booing Carr against the Colts and Browns won't hasten his exit out of town.

Owner Bob McNair, coach Gary Kubiak and general manager Rick Smith know how you feel about Carr. We won't know how they really feel until they have to make difficult decisions after the season.

I believe Carr needs a fresh start, the kind Joey Harrington got when Detroit traded him to Miami, where he's won five of his last seven starts.

For the full article: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4414854.html
 
Texans - Carr + Plummer = Mega Cap hit

Better to Keep Carr + Sage and draft a development QB IMO. Open comp in cap and let the best man start. Otherwise I suspect we would be eating a large piece of cap crap sandwich.
 
Double Barrel said:
We'll have a beefed up o-line and a consistent running game...

I hope that I'm incorrect...
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You are incorrect. The Texans won't have a beefed up O-line or a consistent running game, next year.
Second Honeymoon said:
...its possible they dont even let him compete.
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He hasn't been able to compete, yet, with the crap they have surrounded him with. Why would you expect the Texans to suddenly be able to compete next year? Even if they have a new QB and a great draft, they are still going to be bad for atleast 1 more season.

Second Honeymoon said:
wow, could you imagine if Carr was put on the Practice Squad or made the emergency 3rd QB..not getting reps..hanging with the waterboy and equipment manager...
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You'd like that, wouldn't you?

Second Honeymoon said:
Hopefully Carr will do the honorable thing and rework his deal so we can trade him elsewhere. I dont know if the NFLPA would let him though.
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Why should he rework his contract? As long as he has met his part of the agreement he is entilted to every thing that he negotiated for in that contract. I for one will never, badmouth anyone that demands the full value of their contract. That is why players have agents and negotiations with management. It is to come to an agreement, and once that contract is agreed upon as long as the player has done nothing to void his contract he has every right to expect its full value.

Also, I want to add that some of these same " experts" predicted that the Texans would draft Reggie Bush, so you should consider their track record on being able to predict what the Texans will be doing during the off-season.
 
edo783 said:
Texans - Carr + Plummer = Mega Cap hit

Better to Keep Carr + Sage and draft a development QB IMO. Open comp in cap and let the best man start. Otherwise I suspect we would be eating a large piece of cap crap sandwich.
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I agree. Plummer is not the answer, and only delays the inevitable. We need to begin grooming a young QB next season.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
In Texas y'all is spelled with the comma between the Y and the A. :mario:
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I don't think it's called a comma.

Anyway, I am just as displeased with carr's performance as the next guy and i was against drafting vince young last season. but if we get rid of carr and take a big cap hit and we just gave him what an $8million bonus last offseason. i will be royally pissed off. that would be the dumbest thing to happen ever. nice long term planning. NOT.

With how the offseason went with carr $ wise, i don't think it was McNair's idea that, that meant we'll see how this season goes and if he continues to suck we'll get rid of him...that's wasting a lot of money.

If carr is gone, fine. plummer in, fine, sage starting while kubes grooms a young qb or the 2 backups behind sage...fine........
as long as we don't wast money doing it. don't overpay for plummer when we're not going to make the playoffs anyway, don't waste our money with carr if your just going to get rid of him 1year later.
 
wrestler4life said:
I just find it hard to think that we would take a cap hit like that. Do we want to be rid of him that bad?
I know he is not playing well, but we could have him work with the yougster, then let him go when he wont hurt us so much.
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We have taken cap hit on every other acquitions made by Casserly. In fact that is all we have been doing for the past 5 years. So why not on Carr, he is nothing special.

The way Carr has played for the Texans, he has absolutely no business being on the football field.

We don't need to look far to find out why we are the laughing stock of the league for the past 5 years. Look at all the personnel move since Texans came into the league and then see how many of them are on the team.

We went through similar Cap hit with Boselli as well. At least give Kubiak credit for recognizing it and moving forward in rebuilding the team. This team is far away from being respectable in its current state.
 
Vinny said:
Carr is an ideal back up QB at the right money. He won't get in trouble and make your team look bad, won't cause a stir and badmouth anyone or talk behind the starter, doesn't risk tough throws and mainly looks for safe passes while your playmaker is injured. He would be an ideal reserve and he should have a very long career as a kicked up Trent Dilfer.
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He will look good with the clip board in his hand. He could have been something special but now he is nothing more then damaged goods.
 
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