amazing80
Hall of Fame
With Clowney not being there and Mercilus not rushing much, who else is there than can actually pressure Kalil?
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Trent Williams LT Available
- Thread starter mussop
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That's why these joint practices with the Pack are important.
We're talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about practice. Not a game. Not, not … Not the game, but we're talking about practice, man. I mean, how silly is that? … And we talking about practice. I know it's important, I do. I honestly do... But we're talking about practice man. What are we talking about? Practice? We're talking about practice, man. We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We ain't talking about the game. . We're talking about practice, man. When you come to the stadium, and you Kalil play, you see Kalil play don't you? You've seen Kalil give everything he's got, right? But we're talking about practice right now.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Hell he could tear his ACL getting out of his truck, MCL tripping over the curb just getting practice so never mind practice. Lucky if he survives practice. You
beerlover
Hall of Fame
In more encouraging news, Trent Williams is still available.
Houston Texans
The Texans should have been on the phone with Washington as soon as they heard Williams was displeased with his contract. Deshaun Watson is already one of the top young QBs in this league. Imagine if he wasn’t sacked on over 10 percent of his drop-backs? Houston needs to fix their offensive line if they want their new franchise face to survive longer than David Carr. Watson has the legs and smarts to manage when things collapse around him, but he could be much better if he wasn’t running for his life every other down.
If the Texans didn’t fire their GM with no backup plan, fail to get their main guy, then roll into the season with the bold strategy of “GM by committee” with Bill O’Brien, a handful of front-office members, and the team chaplain, then I’d consider them the frontrunners. Seeing as they did indeed do all of that, it’s rather difficult to imagine they can get it all together for a trade. But if they did, it would be the smartest move of the offseason.
Houston Texans
The Texans should have been on the phone with Washington as soon as they heard Williams was displeased with his contract. Deshaun Watson is already one of the top young QBs in this league. Imagine if he wasn’t sacked on over 10 percent of his drop-backs? Houston needs to fix their offensive line if they want their new franchise face to survive longer than David Carr. Watson has the legs and smarts to manage when things collapse around him, but he could be much better if he wasn’t running for his life every other down.
If the Texans didn’t fire their GM with no backup plan, fail to get their main guy, then roll into the season with the bold strategy of “GM by committee” with Bill O’Brien, a handful of front-office members, and the team chaplain, then I’d consider them the frontrunners. Seeing as they did indeed do all of that, it’s rather difficult to imagine they can get it all together for a trade. But if they did, it would be the smartest move of the offseason.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Maybe Cal (aka Cletus) is a sly old dog who told his troops to lay back and wait and see what happens with the Williams situation. I dunno is the time now ripe for the pickings ?
Good looking out Caserio
texan279
Hall of Fame
ESPN article says they freed up $5.5 million this year with the Brady deal. New England keeps doing New England....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.es...pats-extend-brady-qb-gets-23m-19?platform=amp
badboy
Hall of Fame
That would make sense and what I expected when I first heard the news. However, over the Cap shows differently as I stated above. Exact details probably won't be known for a few more days.
Brady hitting FA next year.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Just signed a new deal thru 2021.
Except, as I've read to understand anyway, years '20 and '21 are effectively voided as of the the last day of the 2019 season. He'll then be designated a FA with no option for a franchise tag..
link
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Read that. Problem is the article contradicts itself. Voidable and void have very different legal meanings. And I don't believe the NFL will allow cap spreading to automatically void years.
So what's the ultimate point to all the legalese here?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Bottom line, I'd bet it's voidable on Brady's choice.
That's essentially how I understood it. That Brady has the option to enter unrestricted free agency at the end of this season.
Not to say whatsoever that he'll do so. Highly unlikely in fact. But the choice is contractually there for him.
badboy
Hall of Fame
2020 New England cap space is approximately 52 million without Brady's new deal. Interestingly 2021 cap space without Brady's new extension is zero.
Question, if Texans sign Trent Williams with the new space in 2019 they will have enough for him in 2020, so what happens to him and Brady in 2021?Brady may retire but how does New England pay Williams in 2021?
Question, if Texans sign Trent Williams with the new space in 2019 they will have enough for him in 2020, so what happens to him and Brady in 2021?Brady may retire but how does New England pay Williams in 2021?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Where'd you look? Spotrac (w/o Brady) has $40.2 mil available for 2020 & $145 mil for 2021.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
My guess is they are starting to set it up so that Brady can retire when he is ready. Brady is the only person I can see BB and Kraft truly having loyalty to and letting him walk away the way he wants. Besides, can you really see Brady in any uniform other than a Pats one? Can you see NE really letting him wear any uniform other than a Pats one?
There's not a player in the history of the league I couldn't see in another uniform.
It's just happened soooo many times.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I suppose you are right but with so much money tied up outside of football on things like endorsements and such, see JJ Watt and HEB, there are some I just think its not worth it as long as they can still play.
If Montana/Rice can change jerseys before they retire anybody can.
zshawn10
All Pro
badboy
Hall of Fame
OTC about 130 am today. Definitely possible I saw it incorrectly. I usually verify spotrac against OTC but confess I did not last night
badboy
Hall of Fame
I anticipate Washington with Trent Williams being in the top 6 picks in 2020. Even higher without him. O'Brien go bed go strong and make a great deal for Williams and Right Guard starter scherff. Maybe we can get the backup center that I'd mentioned in the earlier post pierschbacher.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
NastyNate
I go kerplunk
Pretty sure washington wouldn't let both of those cats roll. Scherff has been really good for them and is probably going to be a top paid guard if he signs an extension.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I agree but premise was why pay huge $ to guy who will gone before team good. Get same type pick for RG as Twill (we have at least two thirds) 2020. One each. Plus they could possibly move from #6 to 2 or 3. Trade down would be hugely beneficial.
NastyNate
I go kerplunk
Yeah but we'll only have one third next year. The Duke Johnson trade is pretty much a 3rd so that's gone (10 games played) and only 1 comp pick in the third.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Am hopeful McClain is correct with Badger and KJack both bring 3rd comps.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I just scanned over this cap again and those figures are still there.
NastyNate
I go kerplunk
Roby negates one of them.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Probably but not known until the end of the season
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Would be happy if they can secure Williams for the DB trade haul of 3rd this year/2nd next year. Though wouldn’t mind those picks being flopped either. Would really set this offense up for success this year and beyond. Especially since Howard has been performing well at LG in camp.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Bottom line I would pay a first-round pick for Trent Williams. Hopefully it won't cost that much. My concern after last night is Dan Schneider is licking his lips.
Our own Michael Shannonrecently listed some trade candidatesfor Trent Williams, including the Patriots, Jets, Texans, Browns, and Jaguars in his article. Of those teams, only the Patriots, Browns, and Texans are legitimate playoff contenders in 2019. And of those teams, the Texans are perhaps the most enticing.
Why? Because the Texans may have recently, and inadvertently, given the Redskins a reference point in potential trade discussions. Earlier today, the Texanstraded a conditional third-round pickto the Browns for versatile running backDuke Johnson.
Johnson, while valuable as an offensive weapon, is nowhere near the caliber player that Trent Williams is, and Williams plays at a far more important position. He could serve as a valuable mentor for Texans rookie tackle Tytus Howard, while helping the Texans maximize their playoff window.
In a nutshell, the Texans already paid a fourth that can become a third for Duke Johnson, a rotational running back. So what, then, is seven-time Pro Bowl left tackle Trent Williams worth, to a team that’s had one of the NFL’s worst offensive lines for over a decade?
The Redskins should get Bill O’Brien on the phone, start with that, and submit an offer for Williams. The Texans are in a vulnerable position right now; they’ve showed their hand, in terms of their trade value chart, and they don’t have an acting general manager; O’Brien himself was the one who made the call to Browns’ general manager John Dorsey.
NFL analyst Warren Sharpis on the record saying that the Redskins could try and strong-arm a first-round pick from the Texans, now that they’ve given up a conditional third-round pick for a running back. Striking at the right time is everything in a trade, and right now, the Redskins could be in prime position to glean massive value. It’s hard to say good-bye so quickly, to a player who’s been a team fixture for a decade.
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https://riggosrag.com/2019/08/08/redskins-reference-point-hypothetical-trent-williams-texans-deal/
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OK so I'll add some fodder to the rumor mill.
Why? Because the Texans may have recently, and inadvertently, given the Redskins a reference point in potential trade discussions. Earlier today, the Texanstraded a conditional third-round pickto the Browns for versatile running backDuke Johnson.
Johnson, while valuable as an offensive weapon, is nowhere near the caliber player that Trent Williams is, and Williams plays at a far more important position. He could serve as a valuable mentor for Texans rookie tackle Tytus Howard, while helping the Texans maximize their playoff window.
In a nutshell, the Texans already paid a fourth that can become a third for Duke Johnson, a rotational running back. So what, then, is seven-time Pro Bowl left tackle Trent Williams worth, to a team that’s had one of the NFL’s worst offensive lines for over a decade?
The Redskins should get Bill O’Brien on the phone, start with that, and submit an offer for Williams. The Texans are in a vulnerable position right now; they’ve showed their hand, in terms of their trade value chart, and they don’t have an acting general manager; O’Brien himself was the one who made the call to Browns’ general manager John Dorsey.
NFL analyst Warren Sharpis on the record saying that the Redskins could try and strong-arm a first-round pick from the Texans, now that they’ve given up a conditional third-round pick for a running back. Striking at the right time is everything in a trade, and right now, the Redskins could be in prime position to glean massive value. It’s hard to say good-bye so quickly, to a player who’s been a team fixture for a decade.
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https://riggosrag.com/2019/08/08/redskins-reference-point-hypothetical-trent-williams-texans-deal/
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OK so I'll add some fodder to the rumor mill.
cameronkrazie86
Rookie
At this point, I don't care the cost, protect Deshaun and get him a competent left tackle.
Why would O'Brien think this is a 'Do or Die' year?
I dont believe OB believes his seat is even warm TBH.
The Texans didnt go after a GM after the Caserio thing... we all know that.. like everything else... that is OBs guy.
Why would he feel the warmth of even the sloghtest fart in his seat when he knows that "his guy" wont be available to be the GM until next season?
Then he has the built in ecuse that Caserio didnt get to draft his guys since as I believe he wont be free from contract til after the draft.
So you are looking at the buttchinned weasel sticking around at least 3 more seasons... but God I pray I am wronger than Robert DeNiro in a dress licking a cats face.
The Texans didnt go after a GM after the Caserio thing... we all know that.. like everything else... that is OBs guy.
Why would he feel the warmth of even the sloghtest fart in his seat when he knows that "his guy" wont be available to be the GM until next season?
Then he has the built in ecuse that Caserio didnt get to draft his guys since as I believe he wont be free from contract til after the draft.
So you are looking at the buttchinned weasel sticking around at least 3 more seasons... but God I pray I am wronger than Robert DeNiro in a dress licking a cats face.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Why do you think we're rebuilding?
But... unfortunately mediocrity is what we do best... just look at our track history as the Texans.
Of course... we went from competent mediocrity to inept mediocrity... but its been there in one shape or another almost from the beginning.
I miss the days of competent mediocrity.... but Im so tired of mediocrity entirely.
Of course... we went from competent mediocrity to inept mediocrity... but its been there in one shape or another almost from the beginning.
I miss the days of competent mediocrity.... but Im so tired of mediocrity entirely.