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Patriots Accuse Texans of Tampering

How many people here unhappy with the job Brian Gaine had done? Is it too hard to believe Cal wasn't equally upset? Then the wrongful termination thing. Maybe Cal doesn't believe it but just the accusation may have been the straw that broke his patience.

So they dig up their list of candidates. Caserio happens to be at the top. We have one talking head trying to "predict" the future & a media driven fiasco ensues.

Texans decide they're not going to commit a draft pick to interview someone they only consider for the job. Had everything to turn into another Osweiler situation. Blindly commit resources for someone you haven't even been able to talk to.

To me, this is just a thing. Not a big thing. Doesn't make the Texans look any more incompetent than running Lamar up the middle on third & one from the shotgun.

Doesn't make them look like Super Bowl contenders either, but that's par for the course.

Par for the course if you're a dysfunctional franchise.
I'm not happy that they fired Gaine. I agree about OB, though. The sh!tty thing is that he can still throw Gaine under the bus for every personnel failure in 2019. In 2020, he might finally Caserio but not, according to sources, after the draft. If he craps the bed in the 2020 draft, well hey, OB's not a personnel guy. He did the best he could with Gaine's scouting dept. Teflon, I tell ya!!! Teflon!

True this is what happens when you let RS hang around in mediocrity, hire another ultimate conservative GM with HR warts. Dont bother to do the research of the contract of the new GM hire you want to make. Then are stuck in GM limbo.

Your description is spot on and guess what, Wason's rookie contract will be frittered away by he time this mess is cleaned up and I can definitely see a path where BOB is here for a decade before this mess is fully cleaned up and I only thought this was going to be a 3 yr rebuild.

Actually the McNair's are getting exactly what they deserve after all of these yrs of ineptness. Unfortunately, these are the kinds of things we have to endure as Texans fans, if we choose to remain Texans fans. Clusterfvck
 
Par for the course if you're a dysfunctional franchise.


True this is what happens when you let RS hang around in mediocrity, hire another ultimate conservative GM with HR warts. Dont bother to do the research of the contract of the new GM hire you want to make. Then are stuck in GM limbo.

Your description is spot on and guess what, Wason's rookie contract will be frittered away by he time this mess is cleaned up and I can definitely see a path where BOB is here for a decade before this mess is fully cleaned up and I only thought this was going to be a 3 yr rebuild.

Actually the McNair's are getting exactly what they deserve after all of these yrs of ineptness. Unfortunately, these are the kinds of things we have to endure as Texans fans, if we choose to remain Texans fans. Clusterfvck
If you can't talk to him about the job, how can you find out about the contract ahead of time.
 
Thru his agent

I'm a little burned out and I'm seriously considering taking a break from the MB for a while.

Happy Fathers Day
Yes, they could have asked his agent, but that amounts to just about the same thing as asking him and opens the door to a tampering charge. So, if they played by the rules, it would be difficult to find out about the details of his contract and the mysterious clause.
 
Yes, they could have asked his agent, but that amounts to just about the same thing as asking him and opens the door to a tampering charge. So, if they played by the rules, it would be difficult to find out about the details of his contract and the mysterious clause.
I'm sure it's privileged info that one has with his agent which obviously was and remains the perfect medium for Caserio and the Texans to communicate with each other.
 
How many people here unhappy with the job Brian Gaine had done? Is it too hard to believe Cal wasn't equally upset? Then the wrongful termination thing. Maybe Cal doesn't believe it but just the accusation may have been the straw that broke his patience.

So they dig up their list of candidates. Caserio happens to be at the top. We have one talking head trying to "predict" the future & a media driven fiasco ensues.

Texans decide they're not going to commit a draft pick to interview someone they only consider for the job. Had everything to turn into another Osweiler situation. Blindly commit resources for someone you haven't even been able to talk to.

To me, this is just a thing. Not a big thing. Doesn't make the Texans look any more incompetent than running Lamar up the middle on third & one from the shotgun.

Doesn't make them look like Super Bowl contenders either, but that's par for the course.
If I were in Cals shoes, I'd have taken Gaine to the side and told him that it sux that a couple of his 1st big-ish FA signings got hurt and couldn't contribute. That's life in the NFL. Yes, you got outbid on some FAs that OB really wanted. Here's what you need to do: "get OB on record as saying this or that FA is a major target and treat them like major targets. We manage the cap pretty well here on Kirby. We will survive a bad deal or two, just don't make it a habit. Make good judgement calls, but don't play with scared money. That's a guaranteed way to lose. Oh, btw, we need a short list of HC candidates you like by next November so they can be vetted." You know, give him a confidence boost about FA spending, ESPECIALLY after the OZ fiasco. Give him the opportunity to look at guys he really likes as HC just in case OB reverts to norm in 2019.
 

This lends credence to the Texans tampering and when the Pats threatened to take it to the league Cal backed off. I guess it was either that or risk losing draft picks AND not getting their guy.

Ship of fools ran aground on Kirby.

The more I read on it, it still seems as if the Patriots "tampering" case is still smoke/fluff. It appears that they're trying to claim "tampering" by saying that since Caserio's contract (which may not conform to league rules anyway) contains language that prevents him from leaving, that by simply asking to interview him (again), we're tampering.

It makes very little sense...other than the Patriots like to play right against the edge of (and sometimes over) the rules.

Sure, we look like fools. Do we look that way for "actually tampering", or do we look that way for "backing down", rather than taking it to the commish?
 
The more I read on it, it still seems as if the Patriots "tampering" case is still smoke/fluff. It appears that they're trying to claim "tampering" by saying that since Caserio's contract (which may not conform to league rules anyway) contains language that prevents him from leaving, that by simply asking to interview him (again), we're tampering.

It makes very little sense...other than the Patriots like to play right against the edge of (and sometimes over) the rules.

Sure, we look like fools. Do we look that way for "actually tampering", or do we look that way for "backing down", rather than taking it to the commish?

Yes
 
They won't back down just because the Pats are mean and lied.

I think they found out Caserio wasn't interested.
 
The more I read on it, it still seems as if the Patriots "tampering" case is still smoke/fluff. It appears that they're trying to claim "tampering" by saying that since Caserio's contract (which may not conform to league rules anyway) contains language that prevents him from leaving, that by simply asking to interview him (again), we're tampering.

You may have a point with the "again" part of your reply. Maybe the Patriots told the Texans about the contract last time & since last time was Bob & this time was Cal, that detail got lost in the transition.
 
Earlier you were sure they tampered by Easterby talking to Caserio, right after which they fired Gaine to bring him in. Now they found out he wasn't interested? So why the tampering charge and the firing of Gaine? If he told Easterby he wasn't interested, Easterby would have relayed that to Cal

I think easterby went to recruit caserio, and that's tampering. If caserio was already interested there was no reason to tamper at the ring ceremony. They could have just fired gaine weeks ago.

Then, whatever was said, it must have been some miscommunication. Because if caserio was truly interested he would have told Easterby he can't leave contractually until 2020.

But easterby apparently thought caserio was ready to leave asap which looks wrong
 
MMQB

The Patriots/Texans showdown-that-never-was over Nick Caserio was interesting, and the fallout may not be finished. I’m told that the clause Caserio had in his contract that Texans owner Cal McNair referenced was one that prevented him from interviewing for jobs with other teams, and that term was secured as part of Caserio getting a raise somewhere along the line. What’s really interesting is that the Patriots have offered the same terms to others on the scouting side in the past to try to keep their staff in place.

On one hand, it’s smart business to try to use leverage in a negotiation to establish continuity in a traditionally unstable industry. On the other, I can’t imagine it goes over great with someone like Caserio, who’s near the end of his deal and could view the Texans GM job as a unique opportunity for all the reasons we laid out last Monday. So why were the Patriots so hard-charging on this one? I don’t think there are issues between the Kraft and McNair families. I do, however, think there’s a little something there between the Patriots and new Houston EVP Jack Easterby, who left in the aftermath of Robert Kraft being charged in Florida and let it be known that was one reason why. And the resulting fallout to come? It will be interesting to see what Caserio does when his contract is up. And what the Texans do next.

While we’re there, my money right now would be on Houston moving into 2019 with Bill O’Brien leading the football operation, and director of player personnel Matt Bazirgan and director of college scouting James Liipfert heading up the personnel side and reporting to O’Brien. It may not be how the Texans drew it up, but this GM search was clearly a coordinated run at Caserio—the team interviewed ex-Browns GM Ray Farmer and ex-Lions GM/current Niners exec Martin Mayhew last weekend, then halted the process while it awaited permission on the top target. The Texans have to know it will be tough to find the right guy externally at this point in the calendar, especially considering perception of how the organization has handled it. It might make the most sense to go forward with the status quo, let Caserio’s contract expire, then try and hire him. Or call the Patriots back and offer a draft pick (I don’t think that’s happening, but it might be worth a shot if you’re McNair).

One more on the Texans: The team is vehemently denying the discrimination charges of ex-security coordinator Jeff Pope. Sources say Pope was fired for falsifying payroll documents, seeking overtime pay for hours he didn’t work. And those inside the organization have defended ex-GM Brian Gaine on this one, saying he doesn’t deserve this on his way out the door.
 
it was widely reported that the whole issue could've been solved if we'd have given up a draft pick. Our FO didn't bite & the Pats fell back on an obscure clause in Caserio's contract. In the process, the Pats may have very well pissed off one of their employees & all but assured that he's gone as soon as he can dip.

So tell me again how is it that the Pats "won" again?

Some of you guys like to blast the Texans for being too image conscious (steelb) & claim it holds them back from really becoming a winner......but here we are 20 pages in with a significant number of the responses revolving around "how this looks..".
 
I think easterby went to recruit caserio, and that's tampering. If caserio was already interested there was no reason to tamper at the ring ceremony. They could have just fired gaine weeks ago.

Then, whatever was said, it must have been some miscommunication. Because if caserio was truly interested he would have told Easterby he can't leave contractually until 2020.

But easterby apparently thought caserio was ready to leave asap which looks wrong

I think you're reaching to cover your earlier posts
 
I think you're reaching to cover your earlier posts

What earlier posts?

I agree with the sentiment that this Texans backing down over the no interview clause isn't adding up.

They also threw in that it's too avoid tampering. So which one are they claiming is the truth?
 
The more I read on it, it still seems as if the Patriots "tampering" case is still smoke/fluff. It appears that they're trying to claim "tampering" by saying that since Caserio's contract (which may not conform to league rules anyway) contains language that prevents him from leaving, that by simply asking to interview him (again), we're tampering.

It makes very little sense...other than the Patriots like to play right against the edge of (and sometimes over) the rules.

Sure, we look like fools. Do we look that way for "actually tampering", or do we look that way for "backing down", rather than taking it to the commish?


I said, I was going to stop posting for a while but I want to answer this.

Fools

Because Cal has no balls, take it to God'ell if he rules against you, (Doubtful) then you give up the draft pick/picks to get your guy. I think K.C. gave up a 3rd and a 6th for tampering with Maclin plus 350,000 in fines. This is a small price to pay to get your guy.
 
I said, I was going to stop posting for a while but I want to answer this.

Fools

Because Cal has no balls, take it to God'ell if he rules against you, (Doubtful) then you give up the draft pick/picks to get your guy. I think K.C. gave up a 3rd and a 6th for tampering with Maclin plus 350,000 in fines. This is a small price to pay to get your guy.

If caserio isn't interested, there's no point in taking it to gooddell
 
I said, I was going to stop posting for a while but I want to answer this.

Fools

Because Cal has no balls, take it to God'ell if he rules against you, (Doubtful) then you give up the draft pick/picks to get your guy. I think K.C. gave up a 3rd and a 6th for tampering with Maclin plus 350,000 in fines. This is a small price to pay to get your guy.

In hindsight, when you consider what Maclin did for them in the 2 years he was them, me thinks he wasn't worth it.
 
In hindsight, when you consider what Maclin did for them in the 2 years he was them, me thinks he wasn't worth it.

That's nothing if you get a great player. That's up to you to know what you're getting before you cross that line to tamper. What he did in hind sight doesn't matter. Those picks could have also been busts as well in hind sight. His point is that the value you lose isn't a lot of value. He's right.
 
What earlier posts?

I agree with the sentiment that this Texans backing down over the no interview clause isn't adding up.

They also threw in that it's too avoid tampering. So which one are they claiming is the truth?

I may have combined threads... sorry about that
 
That's nothing if you get a great player. That's up to you to know what you're getting before you cross that line to tamper. What he did in hind sight doesn't matter. Those picks could have also been busts as well in hind sight. His point is that the value you lose isn't a lot of value. He's right.

Well, yeah i agree if you're getting a truly elite talent...otherwise, no its almost never worth it imo & Maclin damn sure wasn't in hindsight or foresight for that matter.
 
Always, uh, interesting to read JLC's takes on the #Texans.https://t.co/69hIJ3Va9m

— Greg Rajan (@GregRajan) June 17, 2019


What in the blazes is going on down in Houston? My goodness. Not a good look. Again.

If the Texans have a plan, well, they have a funny way of showing it. If they are in fact trying to give the appearance of a fairly rudderless, fractured franchise in the aftermath of the passing of patriarch Bob McNair, then full marks. They’ve nailed the landing.

Cal McNair, the late owner’s son whose rise to the throne has included no shortage of palace intrigue and controversy, enters the 2019 season now under quite the cloud after the botched pursuit of New England personnel exec Nick Caserio. Head coach/GM-outlaster/Machiavellian devotee Bill O’Brien enters training camp next month under as much pressure as any coach in the league. The franchise is denying claims of discriminatory firing practices – alleged by former Texans security chief Jeff Pope in a complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission last week – but is doing so while also appearing to have conducted two shambolic Rooney Rule interviews for its GM opening in the wake of Brian Gaine’s surprise dismissal, with their decision to hire no one for the job making it clear their intent was focused on Caserio and Caserio only.

"If you’re firing the GM in June, you are doing it because you know who the next guy is," said one longtime team executive. "And you’d better make sure that you already have him, or know that you can get him. Otherwise you have a total mess on your hands. Look at the Jets (who dismissed their GM in mid-May) and Joe Douglas (who recently replaced Mike Maccagnan). That was their guy even before the draft. It was obvious the Texans were all-in on Caserio, and that’s fine … as long as you get him."

Alas, McNair fell woefully short of that goal, making the Texans suddenly one of the most closely watched teams in football during what should be the only slow media cycle in the entire year – mid-June til mid-July. You want to go ahead and conduct a GM search around then, getting rid of a GM in Gaine who had only been on the job less than 18 months, won a division title, and was there clearly as a functionary/subordinate for/to O’Brien anyway, people are going to notice. You do it only to come away with this outcome, they’re gonna laugh at you until proven otherwise.

"I’ll give them credit for one thing," said another rival team executive, "they made (owner Chris) Johnson and the Jets look like a well-run organization."

Firing a GM in the spring or summer is no longer unusual – in fact, it’s been a growing trend I’ve been tracking in this space for quite some time. But in every other instance the team making that move did so with the next GM basically already in hand, and ended up hiring him.

The Bills fired Doug Whaley after years of botched decision making right after the draft, with new coach Sean McDermott already having a strong indication that Brandon Beane, whom he worked with in Carolina, would take Buffalo’s GM job. The Chiefs moved on from John Dorsey already knowing they would promote Brett Veach from within that July. The Panthers fired Dave Gettleman in July with then-owner Jerry Richardson knowing that former-GM Marty Hurney, who still lived in Carolina, would come back to the fold. The Jets made their move a few weeks back knowing Douglas was very close with head coach/interim GM Adam Gase, and that was viewed as an inevitability around the league even before Maccagnan was let go.

And then there’s the Texans. One of these things is not like the other.

All of which makes their decision to interview former Browns GM Ray Farmer and former Lions GM Martin Mayhew – both more than qualified for the job – particularly dubious, given how quickly they opted not to hire any GM at all after they publicly dropped their pursuit of Caserio. Given some of the remarks of Bob McNair during negotiations with players about the decision of some to kneel or sit during the national anthem, as captured on hidden audio, and now with a discrimination charge against them, this would seem to be something of an HR crisis, if nothing else.

If the Texans are going to start whacking another GM – and this time about six weeks before camp opens – then you had best be damn sure of Caserio’s interest, through backchannels or covert ops or whatever. You’d better know what it is going to cost you in terms of cash and title and power structure, and you’d better find a way to know that Bill Belichick is going to allow this to proceed without incident. You had better make every effort through the NFL Management Council to find out if there are any weird quirks in Caserio’s contract that give the Patriots the ability to file tampering charges against you – this is New England and the hoodie, folks, and there is a history with all of this stuff,

And even if this was a normal contract, without the potential for tampering charges, and even if Caserio agrees to take the interview, which is nothing that should be assumed in this scenario … are you sure he wants the job? With Belichick for years telling his underlings that the single most important factor in deciding when to take a job outside of New England is the merits of the owners, is there anything on Cal McNair’s resume that would make you think he has this running a football team thing figured out? Because in this instance, Caserio has all of the leverage, and make no mistake: he is interviewing you, you aren’t interviewing him. He already knows the job is his, if he wants it.

With the single greatest asset in the Texans organization, quarterback Deshaun Watson, seriously wounded in both his seasons in the league, and the offensive line still a major cause of concern, are you positive that Caserio would give up perhaps a final Super Bowl run with Tom Brady for this opportunity? And, with so few GM jobs opening up last January, and a bevy of GMs entering 2019 on the hot seat, are you sure Caserio needs to take your job, right now in June as he is about to go on vacation, rather than play the field and be the biggest fish available potentially to multiple teams/owners after the season? With Douglas off the table to the Jets, Caserio’s presence will loom even larger over the 2020 GM search. If I already know that, then surely he does as well.
 
This is what happens when outsiders need things to write about b/c the draft is over & you've run out of terrible "top 10" lists to talk about until training camp.
 
This is what happens when outsiders need things to write about b/c the draft is over & you've run out of terrible "top 10" lists to talk about until training camp.

Houston Comical needs all the click-bait it can muster
 
I said, I was going to stop posting for a while but I want to answer this.

Fools

Because Cal has no balls, take it to God'ell if he rules against you, (Doubtful) then you give up the draft pick/picks to get your guy. I think K.C. gave up a 3rd and a 6th for tampering with Maclin plus 350,000 in fines. This is a small price to pay to get your guy.

Right... After all, we probably have 10 draft picks in next year's draft. So, choosing to go without a GM for 11 months, which will include another free agent cycle and another draft is absolutely insane!
 
Or some people were way to quick to connect the dots.

Nick Caserio was their top prospect 17 months ago that's it. They interviewed someone other than Caserio the day they fired Gaine, another person not Caserio two days later & a third guy, still not Nick, the day after.

Gaine got fired. Five days later there's a wrongful termination accusation but The team Chaplin was in the same room with a bonafide GM candidate so they obviously tampered right?

Ever watch Wag the Dog?

Occam's razor. Connecting dots with the least amount of assumptions.

As far as the other GM interviews, they were dog-and-pony-show candidates to satisfy the Rooney Rule, which has to be an insult of sorts knowing they were never really considered for the job when Cal always intended to hire Caserio.

I called it the day Gaine was fired. Nothing about Cal's decision indicated he had his ducks in a row. It was emotion based, just like all bad decisions are.

My hope now is that Cal learns, which he may. If his upside is his tendency to take risks, then the downside is he's more apt than his father to make blunders. If I have to choose between the two men, I'll take the one who was a self-made billionaire.

Yep, I agree. I have absolutely no confidence in Cal. Riding his dad's coattails and decorating his office with trophy animals. I was always suspect when he always seemed to wear what Bob McNair was wearing. No personal identity. Typical story of a son of a rich dude stuff, and there is nothing I have never read about the guy - which I admit is limited with their KGB secrecy - that leads me to believe that he's a leader of men and has any kind of true vision for building a championship-caliber franchise.

At this point, he's nothing more than a monkey-see-monkey-do owner, and the last couple of weeks only confirms that perception in my mind.


That dog won't hunt. Cal is a lap dog. He's not going to bite, and he barely barks. He's a good boi.

What I want to know is, what did we do to deserve the stress this organization piles on us every year?

I'm still not convinced that the Astrodome/NRG are not built on ancient Indian burial grounds. No team has ever achieved anything while at that location. The Astros have been to two WS and won one after leaving there, and even the Titans franchise made it to the big dance after departing that location.

They need to conduct some king of séance, or witch doctor voodoo dance, or holy water ceremony to cleanse that property.

I say this jokingly. . . sort of. . . :voodoo:

I still don’t care about firing Gaine.

My issue is that OB is still here and they had their hands slapped for reaching in the cookie jar by daddy.

My hope is that either OB gets his **** together and shocks the hell out of me or if he bats his average there is a clean sweep at some point and McNair puts some actual thought into the next regime.

The GM thing to me is more about optics than actual results on the field at this point. Most of Gaines job that was going to affect this year was done.

The hiring and firing of Gaine says less about Gaine's ability as GM and says a lot about the owner. No matter how you look at it, the incompetence of knowing how to run a pro football franchise shines through. He had already worked for the team, so he was a known commodity. All that B.S. about alignment was just marketing spin, and we know they are experts at the marketing of things. But really, it's just them crying wolf.

This was not a "bold decision" by any means. It was a knee-jerk reaction that undermines the credibility of this owner. Even O'Brien looked a little shaken at his press conference last Tuesday, and he clearly and plainly said this was Cal's decision several times. I do not believe there was a consensus in the building.

Earlier you were sure they tampered by Easterby talking to Caserio, right after which they fired Gaine to bring him in. Now they found out he wasn't interested? So why the tampering charge and the firing of Gaine? If he told Easterby he wasn't interested, Easterby would have relayed that to Cal

Yep, I agree. If Caserio wasn't interested, this story would have died immediately or maybe never have happened. I believe Cal fired Gaine because he thought he had an easy path to hire Caserio (who, btw, was high on his Bob McNair's GM list in January 2017).

it was widely reported that the whole issue could've been solved if we'd have given up a draft pick. Our FO didn't bite & the Pats fell back on an obscure clause in Caserio's contract. In the process, the Pats may have very well pissed off one of their employees & all but assured that he's gone as soon as he can dip.

So tell me again how is it that the Pats "won" again?

Some of you guys like to blast the Texans for being too image conscious (steelb) & claim it holds them back from really becoming a winner......but here we are 20 pages in with a significant number of the responses revolving around "how this looks..".

Perception matters when trying to find a quality GM candidate. Who wants a GM-lite job with an owner that could fire you after only 17 months into a 5 year contract? They've also got the O'Brien factor to deal with.
 
If caserio was already interested, why did easterby tamper at the ring ceremony?

Why not fire gaine weeks ago?
 
[QUOTE="Double Barrel, post: 2953418, member: 1643

Perception matters when trying to find a quality GM candidate. Who wants a GM-lite job with an owner that could fire you after only 17 months into a 5 year contract? They've also got the O'Brien factor to deal with.[/QUOTE]





Lot to digest in This post but I’ll just focus on the stuff above in which I Disagree completely. There’s only 32 of these gigs available. And if teams like the Browns, Bengals & Dolphins could continue to get candidates for 20 years with much more dysfunction, we can definitely get a good candidate.

They took their shot, and they missed. That’s all this was. I honestly think fans are making more out of this than it probably really is. People need to chill out. There's a lot of defeatist attitude around here.
 
BREAKING NEWS: Top #Patriots Exec Nick Caserio wants out of New England to be the #Texans GM per @BenVolin of the Boston Globe.

— SportsRadio 610 (@SportsRadio610) June 17, 2019


Report: Caserio ‘wants out’ of New England https://t.co/wGDIm4EkzX

— Rotoworld Football (@Rotoworld_FB) June 17, 2019


Volin: "Nick Caserio wanted that #Texans job. The fact that the #Patriots had to lawyer up … shows the Patriots are forcing Caserio to play out his contract." https://t.co/aeCO11zIcx

— SportsRadio 610 (@SportsRadio610) June 17, 2019
 
On Football: The real story in the Patriots’ squabble with the Texans: Nick Caserio wants out https://t.co/aSpGgcHlc1

— Ben Volin (@BenVolin) June 17, 2019


While you were loading up your car to head to the beach last Friday afternoon, the Patriots won their battle with the Texans over Nick Caserio. The Texans backed off their pursuit of New England’s director of player personnel after being "made aware of certain terms in Nick’s contract with the Patriots," the team said in a statement. In turn, the Patriots rescinded their tampering charge against the Texans, and Robert Kraft said, "We appreciate the way [Texans chairman] Cal McNair has handled the situation."

So Caserio will be back this year, and the Patriots’ power structure remains intact. All’s well that ends well, right? Not in this case.

The Patriots may have won this round, but keeping Caserio isn’t the real story here. The real story is this: Nick Caserio wants out of New England. Specifically, he wants that Texans job, even though it was more of a lateral move than a true promotion. And to prevent Caserio from leaving, the Patriots had to enforce a clause in his contract and file tampering charges. Caserio’s deal reportedly runs through the 2020 NFL Draft. To use football terms, the Patriots are making Caserio play out his contract before reaching free agency.

The Patriots’ win keeps Bill Belichick’s right-hand man in Foxborough for another season, but also exposes some tension inside the walls of Gillette Stadium that we thought had simmered since last year. Belichick and Tom Brady seem to have smoothed things over. But there has been a surprising exodus of coaches and scouts over the last two years (especially this year), which raises questions about the working environment in Foxborough. Five coaches left this offseason (not all for promotions). Jack Easterby left. Longtime scout Dujuan Daniels left. Greg Schiano left after a month. And now we see that Caserio wants out, too. If Caserio wanted to stay in New England, he would have just turned down the Texans’ overtures. Instead, the Patriots had to lawyer up to enforce Caserio’s contract.

This marks the second straight year that the Patriots have had to block Caserio from interviewing with the Texans. Last year, they also blocked college scouting director Monti Ossenfort from interviewing for the same job. I have been told he wasn’t too happy about it. The Patriots are well within their rights to force their employees to fulfill their contracts. And I wouldn’t blame them for being upset if Easterby, the Texans’ new vice president of team development, used the Patriots’ June 6 ring ceremony at Kraft’s house to recruit Caserio (former Texans GM Brian Gaine was fired the next day).

But it’s certainly a significant plot twist that Caserio wants out, especially when he seems to have a good thing going in Foxborough. Caserio may not be the top dog in New England, but he is a close No. 2. He gets to negotiate contracts, pick a lot of the players, conduct workouts, help out in practice, talk on the headset during games, and do a million little things that the Patriots don’t tell us about. Caserio has been in New England from the beginning of the dynasty (2001), likely makes several million per year, has raised his family here, and goes to the Super Bowl every year. And as I wrote last week, that Houston job isn’t perfect by any stretch. Certainly there’s an attractive setup with coach Bill O’Brien and Easterby, both former Patriots with whom Caserio has a good relationship. But it looks like a lateral move, as Caserio would still be working with a head coach who has most of the control over the roster. And the Texans brass may not be on the most solid of footing, what with O’Brien’s 1-3 playoff record in five seasons, and Gaine getting fired after 16 months. If Caserio is concerned about job security, there is no better place than New England, where he has lasted 19 years.

Yet Caserio still wants the Houston job. Perhaps it’s simply about money, or the opportunity to grow. Whatever his motivation, this episode says that Caserio believes his time in Foxborough has run its course. The Patriots, if they want, have a year to convince Caserio to stay. He and his old college buddy Josh McDaniels are obvious candidates to replace Belichick, whenever he moves on (though no one I’ve talked to thinks that day is coming soon). Caserio may want out, but money always talks. But every sign points to Caserio landing with the Texans next offseason.

When the Texans fired Gaine, it was done for one reason: to hire Caserio. They interviewed Martin Mayhew and Ray Farmer for the job — two minority candidates who could fulfill the NFL’s Rooney Rule — but since they lost out on Caserio, they have decided to move on without a general manager for the 2019 season. O’Brien, Easterby, and lead contract negotiator Chris Olsen will run the football side. Nothing will stop the Texans from signing Caserio next spring, though, when he becomes a free agent. The only question may be whether the Patriots will enforce Caserio’s contract to the bitter end. Do they really want Caserio running their draft next spring, knowing that he is going to bolt for Houston as soon as the final pick is announced?

I don’t expect this episode to affect Caserio’s professionalism this year, as I don’t believe he would lay down on the job or tank or anything to that effect. But it is interesting, to say the least, to see that Caserio wants out of New England. And despite the appearance of harmony and joy in Foxborough following a sixth Super Bowl championship, perhaps things aren’t as rosy and perfect as they appear.
 
Volin on #Texans GM situation: "If they lose out on Caserio … it'll work out and they'll find someone else. … But I do think it's lining up for them to make a big run for Caserio after this season."

— SportsRadio 610 (@SportsRadio610) June 17, 2019
 
& there's your veritable confirmatory statement, Mr. K-dog.

I read it and see no confirmatory statement from caserio or a source.

This guy who wrote it seems to be a skip Bayless type of character. He is not reporting he's just getting hits
 
@BHWalpole: @BenVolin Hi Ben - is making factual statements without sources or attribution a new policy at the @BostonGlobe ?

@tmcnaughton33: @BenVolin "Nick wants out" - citing ZERO evidence. I am willing to accept he might want to leave, but how come u (and others) state this as fact without providing a single shred of evidence he wants out? I don't get it. I read your story, nowhere is there anything other than you saying it
 
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@BHWalpole: @BenVolin Hi Ben - is making factual statements without sources or attribution a new policy at the @BostonGlobe ?

@tmcnaughton33: @BenVolin "Nick wants out" - citing ZERO evidence. I am willing to accept he might want to leave, but how come u (and others) state this as fact without providing a single shred of evidence he wants out? I don't get it. I read your story, nowhere is there anything other than you saying it

social media is so :slapfight:
 
I'm still not convinced that the Astrodome/NRG are not built on ancient Indian burial grounds. No team has ever achieved anything while at that location.
A slave burial ground was found last year in Sugar Land while a FBISD construction project was underway. A judge put a stay on construction going forward.

Now, go back 50+ years to the Astrodome construction. Do you think finding a slave cemetery would have stopped construction for more than a couple of hours? I'm not saying it happened. I'm just saying.
 
@BHWalpole: @BenVolin Hi Ben - is making factual statements without sources or attribution a new policy at the @BostonGlobe ?

@tmcnaughton33: @BenVolin "Nick wants out" - citing ZERO evidence. I am willing to accept he might want to leave, but how come u (and others) state this as fact without providing a single shred of evidence he wants out? I don't get it. I read your story, nowhere is there anything other than you saying it

I think it's pretty obvious that he would've AT LEAST considered taking the job if not just flat out accepted if he was allowed to.

This isn't the first time the Texans have shown interest and if he was not interested it's pretty easy to get that message to them.
 
I think it's pretty obvious that he would've AT LEAST considered taking the job if not just flat out accepted if he was allowed to.

This isn't the first time the Texans have shown interest and if he was not interested it's pretty easy to get that message to them.

Or maybe he was just open to interview but undecided. Or maybe he did tell them he wasn't interested and that's why they pulled out
 
Well, yeah i agree if you're getting a truly elite talent...otherwise, no its almost never worth it imo & Maclin damn sure wasn't in hindsight or foresight for that matter.

So now only elite players at their position are worth a 3rd rounder and 6th rounder? Lol!

Based on your measurement standards trades would never happen if you worked for a front office. No one would make deals with you if you expected that type of return for 3rd/6th rounder packages.
 
So now only elite players at their position are worth a 3rd rounder and 6th rounder? Lol!

Based on your measurement standards trades would never happen if you worked for a front office. No one would make deals with you if you expected that type of return for 3rd/6th rounder packages.

It probably is at least part of the reason why they don’t happen as much in the NFL.
 
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