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speculation from a TEXANS prespective is never based on "POOR" logic. It's based on common sense.

You take away Clowney, It's harder on JJ... Simple.
 
okay so this was in 2015

Here's JJ Watts sack record after 2015
2016- 3 games played 1.5 sacks
2017- 5 games played ZERO sacks

Sure the guy can play as hard as he needs and rise to the occasion
but not having Clowney there isn't going to MAKE HIS JOB EASIER

Clowney is going to get BETTER this year... I'd like to sign him and
have JJ and Clowney BOTH getting Double Digit sacks

Clowney pushing into the 10's with JJ touching on the 20's
 
JB said:
I still don't know. Who is Rob Zombie?
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First: God you’re old JB, that being said....

JB said:
Yeah, not my style

edit: I'm more of a Led Zeppelin/Pink Floyd/Rolling Stones/Rush guy
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Second: Yes they are far better. Stairway to Heaven maybe the greatest rock song ever though I prefer Fool in the Rain.

Now back to football. Anyone else notice how many of our great up and coming moves for the rest of this off season require other teams to do things they have given no sign they are going to do? Washington releasing Willians, NE not blocking Caserio, hell king Tut over there even thinks Jerry Jones is going to release Zeke.

Sad state when we are the damn Oliver Twist of the NFL. Please sir will you release this person so we can play football with you.
 
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maverick512000 said:
First: God you’re old JB, that being said....



Second: Yes they are far better. Stairway to Heaven maybe the greatest rock song ever though I prefer Fool in the Rain.

Now back to football. Anyone else notice how many of our great up and coming moves for the rest of this off season require other teams to do things they have given no sign they are going to do? Washington releasing Willians, NE not blocking Caserio, hell king Tut over there even thinks Jerry Jones is going to release Zeke.

Sad state when we are the damn Oliver Twist of the NFL. Please sir will you release this person so we can play football with you.
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you prefer fool in the rain, but what do you prefer when your NOT in the rain?

I never said Jerry Jones was going to "RELEASE" Zeke, just let him walk... It's been speculated before I even posted it and so the topic isn't unprecedented.
 
Pharaohcious said:
you prefer fool in the rain, but what do you prefer when your NOT in the rain?

I never said Jerry Jones was going to "RELEASE" Zeke, just let him walk... It's been speculated before I even posted it and so the topic isn't unprecedented.
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First, that was a really weak sauce attempt at a dig.

Second, release or walk it doesn’t matter Cowboys aren’t letting Zeke go and even if they did why would we be the ones to sign him.

But this thread is about another pipe dream and that’s Williams as a Texan let’s leave the Zeke as a Texan pipe dream in the other thread.
 
maverick512000 said:
First, that was a really weak sauce attempt at a dig.

Second, release or walk it doesn’t matter Cowboys aren’t letting Zeke go and even if they did why would we be the ones to sign him.

But this thread is about another pipe dream and that’s Williams as a Texan let’s leave the Zeke as a Texan pipe dream in the other thread.
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Firstly, you never answered my question... So your just being RUDE!

Secondly, the difference between release and walk DOES matter on account of someone being CUT or letting someone walk because of CAP space.

Lastly, nice politics play on the thread rules. I'm going to have to ask you to stop mentioning my Zeke hypothesis in this thread or I'll have to report you quicker then an illegal immigrant on federal property.
 
Cocbar and ThuderBisch

You both know Clowney is going to get signed here, right?

Clowney is ESSENTIAL to our regional growth in SC. A state where our Franchise is most hated.

Clowney deal is going to get done. SAY IT WITH ME!
 
Pharaohcious said:
Firstly, you never answered my question... So your just being RUDE!

Secondly, the difference between release and walk DOES matter on account of someone being CUT or letting someone walk because of CAP space.

Lastly, nice politics play on the thread rules. I'm going to have to ask you to stop mentioning my Zeke hypothesis in this thread or I'll have to report you quicker then an illegal immigrant on federal property.
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You asked a question? Must have missed it within your rambling. As has been pointed out to you already Cowboys have almost as much cap space as us so yes they can resign Zeke.

Please by all means report me, I would love to see the results of that actually.
 
Pharaohcious said:
Cocbar and ThuderBisch

You both know Clowney is going to get signed here, right?

Clowney is ESSENTIAL to our regional growth in SC. A state where our Franchise is most hated.

Clowney deal is going to get done. SAY IT WITH ME!
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I was going to make a comment about how stupid this post was then in a moment of curiosity I clicked your profile and saw you promoting your youtube channel. Seeing as that moment of curiosity hadn’t passed I checked it out and realized I was most likely dealing with a kid.

This explains everything so please by all means carry on.

P.S. Your highlight video of us beating KC in the preseason was ironic on so many levels. Also L2P on Fortnite.
 
JB said:
Yeah, not my style

edit: I'm more of a Led Zeppelin/Pink Floyd/Rolling Stones/Rush guy
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Pfffft

Chuck Willis, Sam Cooke, Fats, Buddy Holly, Little Richard, the Platters, Chuck Berry (the real king of R&R). Real talent back then. (and a real travesty to the black artists back then)

None of that over amplified, noisy, thump thump krap.

Has Trent Williams been cut or offered up for trade yet?

:coffee:
 
maverick512000 said:
You asked a question? Must have missed it within your rambling. As has been pointed out to you already Cowboys have almost as much cap space as us so yes they can resign Zeke.

Please by all means report me, I would love to see the results of that actually.
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We are 2nd in cap space right now with 40 million and Dallas is "15th" in Cap space with 19 Million

Tell me again how the cowboys have as much cap space as the Texans
 
maverick512000 said:
I was going to make a comment about how stupid this post was then in a moment of curiosity I clicked your profile and saw you promoting your youtube channel. Seeing as that moment of curiosity hadn’t passed I checked it out and realized I was most likely dealing with a kid.

This explains everything so please by all means carry on.

P.S. Your highlight video of us beating KC in the preseason was ironic on so many levels. Also L2P on Fortnite.
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Well THANK YOU for checking out my youtube channel. No im not a kid but im just as honest as one

what is "L2P"?
 
JB said:
You need to look @ 2020, not 2019
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Its sad to see the Texans in one of those positions with a great young QB that they're paying nothing to, and they're not capitalizing on the cap space advantages like other teams have over the last 4 or 5 yrs.
 
Pharaohcious said:
Your article that you posted by @dannyphantom even talks about looking at the aspect of the cowboys letting go of Zeke...
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Yes it does, I never said it didn't, just like articles here talk about letting Clowney go or any team talks about letting an impact players coming up on a new contract go. Hell a couple of years ago Pats beat writers were talking about letting Brady go in favor of switching to Jimmy G. The point wasn't about whether they would keep him or not it was about that they can afford to keep him.
 
Pharaohcious said:
Your article that you posted by @dannyphantom even talks about looking at the aspect of the cowboys letting go of Zeke...
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Yes it does, I never said it didn't, just like articles here talk about letting Clowney go or any team talks about letting an impact players coming up on a new contract go. Hell there was even talk in NE about letting Brady walk in favor of switching to Jimmy G. The point wasn't about keeping him or not it was that they can afford to keep him.
 
maverick512000 said:
Yes it does, I never said it didn't, just like articles here talk about letting Clowney go or any team talks about letting an impact players coming up on a new contract go. Hell there was even talk in NE about letting Brady walk in favor of switching to Jimmy G. The point wasn't about keeping him or not it was that they can afford to keep him.
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The Cowboys won't be able to keep Zeke and their WR and Prescott at that high amount. One will have to walk, unless they're fine letting the rest of their team walk on their contracts where they'll end up having a ton of holes. Their best bet would be to trade Zeke while he still has value to someone who wants to pay him and draft another RB behind a strong Line. Much easier to replace that position.

You can only pay so many players huge dollars on their contracts. Once a QB gets what Dak gets, it becomes very difficult to stack your team. Ask the Packers.
 
I agree with Tex here... Everyones mostly agreed the RB position is the most replaceable... I DONT agree but hey... whatever

Trading zeke would be great for the Dallas Organization
they COULD use him to move up 2020 draft​
 
Texecutioner said:
The Cowboys won't be able to keep Zeke and their WR and Prescott at that high amount. One will have to walk, unless they're fine letting the rest of their team walk on their contracts where they'll end up having a ton of holes. Their best bet would be to trade Zeke while he still has value to someone who wants to pay him and draft another RB behind a strong Line. Much easier to replace that position.

You can only pay so many players huge dollars on their contracts. Once a QB gets what Dak gets, it becomes very difficult to stack your team. Ask the Packers.
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In most cases I would agree but Zeke allows a lot of pressure to be taken off of Dak. Dak hasn't shown that he can carry a team like a Watson has where if you can't trust in a strong run game you can win it with the air game. I don't see Dallas letting Zeke walk and sure has hell not if he might come here.
 
but that's the thing! There would be no sign of him coming here... Our Oline isn't strong so why invest in a running game... That'll be what Jerry Jones will think
 
maverick512000 said:
In most cases I would agree but Zeke allows a lot of pressure to be taken off of Dak. Dak hasn't shown that he can carry a team like a Watson has where if you can't trust in a strong run game you can win it with the air game. I don't see Dallas letting Zeke walk and sure has hell not if he might come here.
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I'm not saying they'll let him walk. They'll likely pay him. THey'll have to let their WR walk most likely then and not pay him. If they pay him too, their defense will suffer talent wise and maybe their Oline eventually too. You can only pay certain skill players the highest amount at their positions.

Yes Zeke is great, but he's still a RB. That's the most replaceable position in the NFL if you have a strong Oline. SB winning teams almost never have an elite RB. Seattle was the only one I can think of in the last 15 yrs.
 
Texecutioner said:
I'm not saying they'll let him walk. They'll likely pay him. THey'll have to let their WR walk most likely then and not pay him. If they pay him too, their defense will suffer talent wise and maybe their Oline eventually too. You can only pay certain skill players the highest amount at their positions.

Yes Zeke is great, but he's still a RB. That's the most replaceable position in the NFL if you have a strong Oline. SB winning teams almost never have an elite RB. Seattle was the only one I can think of in the last 15 yrs.
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This is true but SB winning teams also either have a game manager QB or a top tier one. Dak hasn't yet shown he can be either. He's had flashes but nothing you can really hang your hat on. Also Dallas line, while still good, is not the wall it use to be. I don't know I just think Dallas has missed their window for the time being and now they have to look at a mini rebuild. That being the case they maybe looking at just drafting and keeping Zeke and Dak to just keep things interesting and make the bleed out not to bad.
 
So Amari, Zeke or Dak... if you had to GUESS which one they'd let go... Which would it be?

They already wasted a 1st rounder on both Zeke and Amari. yet Dak is the Captain they've been looking for apparently.

Jerry Jones has stabbed both Dez and Romo in the back... I would guess he'd do the same to Zeke
 
Pharaohcious said:
Cocbar and ThuderBisch
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Pharaohcious said:
Jerry Jones has stabbed both Dez and Romo in the back..
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He stabbed neither in the back. He'll likely pay Zeke, but that will end up being more likely the more foolish decision. Cooper isn't the high risk that Zeke is off the field. Zeke has already had a suspension and continues to do questionable stuff. He's also a RB which brings a higher risk for injury.
 
I thought this was the Trent Williams thread?

With that said, I think Jerrah lets Tyran Smith walk and that $$$$ goes towards signing the new triplets.
 
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